Explosions at Brussels' Zaventem airport and Maelbeek metro station

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Johnnypenso
No one said it was easy. When was the last time you heard of a major terror attack on an Israeli airport or plane? Israel has the biggest target in the world on their collective backs but the best safety record.
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Last attack on an Israeli airport was in 1972 when the Japanese Red Army members recruited by the PFLP-EO killed 26 and wounded 80 at Ben Gurion airport. There have been no hijackings occurring from that airport in its history and that's the only real international airport in the country.
 
Johnnypenso
Sounded to me like you were making excuses for terrorism and blaming events from a century or more ago when no one alive today was around.
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Nope. Like I issued to HKSracer, I challenge you to point out instances where I have ever said that these actions, or actions like this, are permissable.

I was merely pointing out that colonial legacies have a huge influence on the success of future integration with immigrant communities and if you think that this is untrue then you are living on Dream Street.

It's also quite true that Belgium has a horrible record as a colonial power and has done little to address that, regardless of where its minority communities come from.
 
Talking about records...

There's an old article of Washington Post, about the attack on Domodedovo Airport of Moscow in January 2011.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/27/AR2011012706736.html

This quote:
One is that the country's security services, unlike their counterparts in Europe and North America, have failed to develop the means to uncover terrorist networks, prevent attacks or protect public spaces such as airports and subway systems.
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Ironic, don't you think?

When trying to imagine how Brussels is doing right now, I remember that time in Moscow. Almost six years ago, two explosions in Moscow subway in March 2010. Scary times...
 
Liquid
I was merely pointing out that colonial legacies have a huge influence on the success of future integration with immigrant communities and if you think that this is untrue then you are living on Dream Street.

It's also quite true that Belgium has a horrible record as a colonial power and has done little to address that, regardless of where its minority communities come from.
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True as that may be, it's irrelevant for yesterday's attacks.
 
Denur
True as that may be, it's irrelevant for yesterday's attacks.
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I wouldn't be surprised if it is what makes Belgium a 'viable target' to these :censored:s.

Boko Haram, an affiliate of ISIS now known as ISWAP, literally means "Western education is forbidden".

But I could just be speculating.
 
A laptop from the suicide bomber in the metro station has been found. He stated that he was afraid of being hunted down by the police and didn't want to end up in a prison cell. So he decided to end his life as a martyr.
 
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FrzGT
Kinda like those Japanese People in the USA years after WW2.

Because entire Japanese People hates Americans for sure.

In all seriousness, we had faced this multiple times. Surely we can judge it more objectively.
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This.

Ironically that the US interned the Japanese en-mass and yet the single most decorated regiment in WW2 was the 442nd Infantry, which was made up of Americans of Japanese ancestry (in other words the same people they had put in internment camps).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/442nd_Infantry_Regiment_(United_States)
 
Liquid
Nope. Like I issued to HKSracer, I challenge you to point out instances where I have ever said that these actions, or actions like this, are permissable.

I was merely pointing out that colonial legacies have a huge influence on the success of future integration with immigrant communities and if you think that this is untrue then you are living on Dream Street.

It's also quite true that Belgium has a horrible record as a colonial power and has done little to address that, regardless of where its minority communities come from.
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Making excuses was the wrong way for me to put it I agree, but you are clearly making a link between colonialism and terrorism and I don't buy it. Have there been any instances of terrorists directly referring to colonial atrocities as a reason for the current reign of terrorism?
 
Liquid
I wouldn't be surprised if it is what makes Belgium a 'viable target' to these :censored:s.

Boko Haram, an affiliate of ISIS now known as ISWAP, literally means "Western education is forbidden".

But I could just be speculating.
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You are. There is no indication, to my knowledge, that immigrants from former colonies are involved in terrorism in the West, because they hold a grudge against their former colonizers. That already happened in the last century.
 
Don't go deleting this you silly mod ;) it has much relevance and even has the lyrics. If we are able to evolve and get past this nonsense, well, we could at least do it for our kids.



The terrorists are beyond ridiculous and we obviously need to nip them in the ass, building walls is not the answer however, we've already tried that.
 
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kikie
No.

If that was the case, the UK would have been attacked many times in the past.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_colonial_empire

I find it strange that you make a connection with "Belgian Congo" and the ISIS attacks. Strange.
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Perfectly viable connection, even if the Islamic State of West Africa didn't pull the trigger.

However, the one thing that I will give you is the fact that even if the above connection was somehow not possible, the fact remains that a terrorist attack occurred in retaliation to a bomb-maker's arrest. This bomb-maker, who just so happened to be directly tied to the Paris attacks, was evidently in good standing with ISIS since someone had to make the bombs for yesterday's attack. This means that this bomb-maker has some actionable intelligence.
 
squadops
As @Liquid was saying, in a broader sense. Of course there is the direct facts but there is always more.
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In a broader sense, you can link almost anything to anything else. Six degrees of separation and all that. These are just angry people, converted to madness through indoctrination and brainwashing same as any other terrorists.
 
Sanji Himura
Perfectly viable connection, even if the Islamic State of West Africa didn't pull the trigger.

However, the one thing that I will give you is the fact that even if the above connection was somehow not possible, the fact remains that a terrorist attack occurred in retaliation to a bomb-maker's arrest. This bomb-maker, who just so happened to be directly tied to the Paris attacks, was evidently in good standing with ISIS since someone had to make the bombs for yesterday's attack. This means that this bomb-maker has some actionable intelligence.
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Come one, what has the Republic of Congo to do with these attacks. Most of the people are Catholic.

There is absolutely nothing no viable connection between the Republic of Congo and these attacks.
These two brothers were also part of the attack in Paris last year. So if this connection is viable, then there must be a connection with the Republic of Congo and Paris.

If there was such a connection, I'd have heard about it on the Belgian news.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...e-iswap-as-militants-launch-new-10204918.html

Nigeria, not Congo.


Johnnypenso
In a broader sense, you can link almost anything to anything else. Six degrees of separation and all that. These are just angry people, converted to madness through indoctrination and brainwashing same as any other terrorists.
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Exactly!
Well said!
 
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Cut the cancer off right? Oh dear but I am speaking as a dreaded Christian now. At a huge risk I will show you what I mean.

Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.

But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.

And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

I hope you get my intent 👍

Oh, and I am with @kikie on this deal.
 
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TenEightyOne
Now we're hearing much the usual rhetoric about making the first part of airports more secure, maybe even searching anybody who enters. I didn't hear suggestions that football fans be searched after the Paris attacks, or suggestions that concert-goers be searched for that matter.
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I did go Old Trafford the next day after Paris attacks, security was meant to be heightened. I managed to get through without being searched and I was sitting very close to the Beckhams. Also went to The O2 Arena for last "Top Gear" live show with Jeremy later that month and also didn't get searched. People did get searched but not everyone.

Came to conclusion terror attacks could happen in so many places, even "secure" places. Intelligence and also stopping these people from becoming terrorists in the first place seems only ways to tackle it. Given worldwide population, there aren't many that are that inhumane but when the few that are, quite terrifying what can happen which is what they likely want. Really saddening.
 
To all the terrorists,

They probably won't read this anyway.You will be forgotten, you are not a hero.The difference between us and them is they are terrorists and we are good people.Good vs evil, evil will never win.For any atrocities you may undertake in the future, you would be known as a murderer/mass murderer.You won't go to heaven and be rewarded with anything, you will go to hell in a handcart with nothing you steaming great moron.Change this stupid ideology in your head.You don't think about all the grief, heartache, upset, anger etc you cause to families you know and don't know.And the people who have died as a result of YOU, their families never get justice.You are a bunch of racist cowards.
 
I could not decide on how to edit this into my last post so I'm just going to plop it here.

If someone is not willing to listen to reason, cut them off. If they revolt, kill them. I know it is harsh words, but it is what I think of it.

The terrorists are entitled to a voice and an opinion, they are not entitled to fly airplanes into our buildings.
 
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Left: Khalid El Bakraoui, bombed the train station in Maalbeek.

Right: Ibrahim El Bakraoui, was responsible for the bombing in Zavetem.



Erdogan from Turkey warned Belgium nummerous times for Ibrahim El Bakraoui. Did they listen? No ofcourse not. He was released from prison last year (in Belgium).
 
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According to loveable Uberturk Erdogan, one of the blowuppies, Ibrahim el Bakraoui, was deported from Turkey in June 2015 to Belgium. The Turkish authorities warned Belgium that he was a sure fit for joining the terrorists and that he should be locked up on arrival. Belgium apparently couldn't find any incriminating evidence so they released him back into the wild.

Hmmm, deliciously tree'd.
 
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All the support from all over the world!


Many of the victims weren't even Belgians but foreigners going back home after a nice vacation.
 

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