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F1 2010F1 2010-2016
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- DrTrouserPlank
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It seems there is already a trend in the various comments posted about this game, however I wanted to share my fist impressions with you.
Yesterday evening, I had the opportunity to test-play F1 2010 with a friend that already collected his ordered copy. His setup was a very nice mix of Slim PS3, 40 inch 1080P Plasma screen and G27 wheel. We spend most of the time in the Time Trial Club(?) competing against each other on the tracks from Spa, Suzuka and Barcelona. (Developers, if you read this, this feature is great but please allow more than just 1 starting lap per tentative. At least you should be able take control of the car way before the start/finish line)
It’s been a long time I don’t expect a racing game to bring the level of eye-candy the GT franchise has to offer (PS console player only), and while a bit skeptical at first I’d say F1 2010 graphics are quite decent. Actually, the track layouts are great and the (sense of) difference in elevation are very very well rendered IMO.👍
After a few trial and error laps with the VR 01, it was decided to level the performance a bit, so my friend picked the RB 06 while I ended behind the wheel of an MGP W01. We drove with all assists off and took the cars with the default tuning setup. (Moreover this pleasant evening was accompanied by a nice bottle of red wine.)
I’m a Third Division Gold Driver on this planet, I don’t think I’ve more than average driving skills, and my pace is way off from the more hardcore racers around here. Still I managed in a few laps to equal (and even beat) the real-world timetables performed by a notorious seven time world champion?!
Unless we missed a sub-menu difficulty setting, it just seems the handling doesn’t represent much of a challenge. Once you find the appropriate braking points, the worst that can append is a spin at the exit of a chicane should you be too generous with the throttle. I can see how this could annoy the more sim-oriented gamers around here.
It was publicly announced that the game developers were focusing on playability and enjoyment, and in that respect Codemasters successfully delivered; given the very limited approach described above, I can say this game is very enjoyable indeed.
However, despite the fun factor, with GT5 so close around the corner I’d rather save that extra 60 euros and finally surrender to the frivolous goodies the Special Edition has to offer. Still, could possibly buy it latter on, just to learn the new and revamped layouts of all those real-world tracks.👍
Yesterday evening, I had the opportunity to test-play F1 2010 with a friend that already collected his ordered copy. His setup was a very nice mix of Slim PS3, 40 inch 1080P Plasma screen and G27 wheel. We spend most of the time in the Time Trial Club(?) competing against each other on the tracks from Spa, Suzuka and Barcelona. (Developers, if you read this, this feature is great but please allow more than just 1 starting lap per tentative. At least you should be able take control of the car way before the start/finish line)
It’s been a long time I don’t expect a racing game to bring the level of eye-candy the GT franchise has to offer (PS console player only), and while a bit skeptical at first I’d say F1 2010 graphics are quite decent. Actually, the track layouts are great and the (sense of) difference in elevation are very very well rendered IMO.👍
After a few trial and error laps with the VR 01, it was decided to level the performance a bit, so my friend picked the RB 06 while I ended behind the wheel of an MGP W01. We drove with all assists off and took the cars with the default tuning setup. (Moreover this pleasant evening was accompanied by a nice bottle of red wine.)
I’m a Third Division Gold Driver on this planet, I don’t think I’ve more than average driving skills, and my pace is way off from the more hardcore racers around here. Still I managed in a few laps to equal (and even beat) the real-world timetables performed by a notorious seven time world champion?!
Unless we missed a sub-menu difficulty setting, it just seems the handling doesn’t represent much of a challenge. Once you find the appropriate braking points, the worst that can append is a spin at the exit of a chicane should you be too generous with the throttle. I can see how this could annoy the more sim-oriented gamers around here. It was publicly announced that the game developers were focusing on playability and enjoyment, and in that respect Codemasters successfully delivered; given the very limited approach described above, I can say this game is very enjoyable indeed.
However, despite the fun factor, with GT5 so close around the corner I’d rather save that extra 60 euros and finally surrender to the frivolous goodies the Special Edition has to offer. Still, could possibly buy it latter on, just to learn the new and revamped layouts of all those real-world tracks.👍
JacoJa
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Bought my copy today (PS3), and I've been playing it for a few hours already.
My first impressions:
The physics are very different from F1:CE, and I personally feel less connected to the car in F1 2010. And although I enjoy the difficulty of this new game, I still prefer the handling of F1:CE.
Graphics I am a bit disappointed with. I think the onboard 'T' camera and lighting of F1:CE looked more realistic. The weather effects, track and car details all look very good though.
I'm racing with Lotus ATM, under Expert. I'm yet to enter my first race in career mode, because I've been concentrating on Time trails and practice races. I'm well off the pace at the moment!
Is Jesus more common than Jack?
My first impressions:
The physics are very different from F1:CE, and I personally feel less connected to the car in F1 2010. And although I enjoy the difficulty of this new game, I still prefer the handling of F1:CE.
Graphics I am a bit disappointed with. I think the onboard 'T' camera and lighting of F1:CE looked more realistic. The weather effects, track and car details all look very good though.
I'm racing with Lotus ATM, under Expert. I'm yet to enter my first race in career mode, because I've been concentrating on Time trails and practice races. I'm well off the pace at the moment!
Haha... that's very odd! I'm glad my name (James) was part of the list. I also spotted 'Jesus'.
Is Jesus more common than Jack?
Anes
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- AnesthesiaXVII
Thanks, that worked. I'm showing off my noobness
Yeah it definitely does look like someone's fiddled. I'll never understand fanboys.
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- evolutionNL
Guys forget my impressions from before. My opninion changed a bit(mostly because the Fanatec turbo S is NOT(yet?) supported on the ps3, and the physics where ???).
Once I got over the fact that it's not a super high quality game like a Gran Turismo game, I'm having loads of fun with it. The game feels a bit unfinished/rushed to me, a few bugs, glitches and graphical errors are in.
The physics are good, not really challenging or difficult but feels natural, and within a few laps everyone should be able to do a decent lap without crashing all the time.
Sim? no. But alot less arcadey then Grid, Dirt 2 or Ridge Racer. A bit less sim then Gt5P.
The game is far from perfect, non the less it's a pretty decent f1 game.
Once I got over the fact that it's not a super high quality game like a Gran Turismo game, I'm having loads of fun with it. The game feels a bit unfinished/rushed to me, a few bugs, glitches and graphical errors are in.
The physics are good, not really challenging or difficult but feels natural, and within a few laps everyone should be able to do a decent lap without crashing all the time.
Sim? no. But alot less arcadey then Grid, Dirt 2 or Ridge Racer. A bit less sim then Gt5P.
The game is far from perfect, non the less it's a pretty decent f1 game.
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- Songoku1101
- The Jenius
I tried to not post about this game and I actually shouldn't care since GT5 is close but I love F1 so here are my thoughts. I think the whole game overall is in a word, MUSHY, nothing seems hardcore or on the edge it’s all nice and friendly with a few seemingly canned areas where it acts like you can't drive and gives you a challenge, other than that its half-baked.
Can someone tell me why on earth brake bias is non-adjustable in race, I have also not found a place to change the engine map in race during career either, big miss in my mind.
I believe F1:CE is better than this game the handling was sharper and more on the edge, F1 2010 does a nice job of the little nuances like the engine bog during heavy acceleration and some slight twitchiness but it seems canned and sometimes doesn’t fit the situation.
The gas doesn't seem linear enough unless its my pedal and wheel which are the Fanatec GT3 RSv2 and G25 pedals. Hungary is an example, I was in the top 3 yesterday in the Time Trials and also have a time of 1:13:8 in F1:CE which I believe would be 1st in these forums, I am very good at that track but on the 1st corner i absolutely had to drive in a straight line when on throttle, even if I barely fed it or it would spin out, it seemed a little predetermined, its a little hard to explain. In other corners the throttle application seems way to high for the particular corner like you can just pour on the throttle and nothing will budge the car.
The tracks also seem off a bit like they are too small or something, maybe other games are wrong or maybe its the lack of speed sensation but the tracks don't seem to flow like I am used to.
The speed sensation is a little funny as well, the cars seem slow as hell especially off the line, where Chandok can pass me every time. But the overall speed seems slow and maybe that’s why it seems like the track is smaller than it is.
The braking is very fickle, besides not being able to adjust in-game it seems very hit or miss, one corner they will work marvelously, the next you just slide off the track, with no sound mind you, just like you didn't apply them enough or something very hard to figure out. Sometimes I can brake well into the brake zone, other times I have to break well before the zone, it’s annoying and hard to get a rhythm going.
The FF for whatever reason seems non-existent, I felt it once that I can remember and even if I hit a wall it doesn't kick in.
The best thing about the game is the competition on Expert mode with the Lotus team I am fighting mid pack and feels like a real accomplishment and real people are racing with you, love it.
Where F1:CE trumps it, is the overall feel of the car and the ragged edge physics and sounds. Where F1 2010 wins is the little nuances in the physics, when coming out of non-slow speed corners and the overall drivability of the car at lower speeds, I could drive with one hand if I wanted, just like the drivers were doing with the F-duct this year. I also like how, similar to a real car, you can manipulate the car mid-corner, or during a pass pretty easily.
Overall its an ok game I would give it a 7 - 7.5 at most, needs a lot of work, and I am very glad GT5 is coming soon or I would be very sad having to go back and play F1:CE again, as I fear I might.
Can someone tell me why on earth brake bias is non-adjustable in race, I have also not found a place to change the engine map in race during career either, big miss in my mind.
I believe F1:CE is better than this game the handling was sharper and more on the edge, F1 2010 does a nice job of the little nuances like the engine bog during heavy acceleration and some slight twitchiness but it seems canned and sometimes doesn’t fit the situation.
The gas doesn't seem linear enough unless its my pedal and wheel which are the Fanatec GT3 RSv2 and G25 pedals. Hungary is an example, I was in the top 3 yesterday in the Time Trials and also have a time of 1:13:8 in F1:CE which I believe would be 1st in these forums, I am very good at that track but on the 1st corner i absolutely had to drive in a straight line when on throttle, even if I barely fed it or it would spin out, it seemed a little predetermined, its a little hard to explain. In other corners the throttle application seems way to high for the particular corner like you can just pour on the throttle and nothing will budge the car.
The tracks also seem off a bit like they are too small or something, maybe other games are wrong or maybe its the lack of speed sensation but the tracks don't seem to flow like I am used to.
The speed sensation is a little funny as well, the cars seem slow as hell especially off the line, where Chandok can pass me every time. But the overall speed seems slow and maybe that’s why it seems like the track is smaller than it is.
The braking is very fickle, besides not being able to adjust in-game it seems very hit or miss, one corner they will work marvelously, the next you just slide off the track, with no sound mind you, just like you didn't apply them enough or something very hard to figure out. Sometimes I can brake well into the brake zone, other times I have to break well before the zone, it’s annoying and hard to get a rhythm going.
The FF for whatever reason seems non-existent, I felt it once that I can remember and even if I hit a wall it doesn't kick in.
The best thing about the game is the competition on Expert mode with the Lotus team I am fighting mid pack and feels like a real accomplishment and real people are racing with you, love it.
Where F1:CE trumps it, is the overall feel of the car and the ragged edge physics and sounds. Where F1 2010 wins is the little nuances in the physics, when coming out of non-slow speed corners and the overall drivability of the car at lower speeds, I could drive with one hand if I wanted, just like the drivers were doing with the F-duct this year. I also like how, similar to a real car, you can manipulate the car mid-corner, or during a pass pretty easily.
Overall its an ok game I would give it a 7 - 7.5 at most, needs a lot of work, and I am very glad GT5 is coming soon or I would be very sad having to go back and play F1:CE again, as I fear I might.
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- DrTrouserPlank
There is a monumental list of bugs in this game. On the official forums it's just more and more each day, a lot of them are totally game breaking, both online and offline.
Sad thing is I actually don't think CM will bother to patch them as there's no incentive for them to do so commercially.
Sad thing is I actually don't think CM will bother to patch them as there's no incentive for them to do so commercially.
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- Fatboy_Tim
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- BradleyH131
I'm now 3 races down and decided this game is too addictive despite it's problems (evidenced by the fact it's 2am and I'm debating if I should do another full length race or not).
Something that has annoyed me is that every race I've had so far I've gotten a puncture in. It's super frustrating. Maybe it's bad luck but if they're doing this every race I'm going to be pissed.
Also, it's basically impossible to unlap yourself, scenario:
Melbourne GP, on lap 2 I get a puncture after turn 5 and unable to stop slightly tap the person infront of me due to the puncture. So I have to make a drive through and a tire stop. So by lap 4 I've done 2 stops and a billion seconds plus lap on some guys back.
End up filling a nice empty spot between 9th and 10th. Should be a good fight your way back race I was thinking. In a few laps I catch up to the 9th place driver, have a bit of a battle, sneak past, woooo. Then about 5 seconds later, BLUE FLAG. I'm not holding them up. I try and drive away and I'm getting further infront but then get summoned for another drive through for ignoring the flags.
Unimpressive.
Something that has annoyed me is that every race I've had so far I've gotten a puncture in. It's super frustrating. Maybe it's bad luck but if they're doing this every race I'm going to be pissed.
Also, it's basically impossible to unlap yourself, scenario:
Melbourne GP, on lap 2 I get a puncture after turn 5 and unable to stop slightly tap the person infront of me due to the puncture. So I have to make a drive through and a tire stop. So by lap 4 I've done 2 stops and a billion seconds plus lap on some guys back.
End up filling a nice empty spot between 9th and 10th. Should be a good fight your way back race I was thinking. In a few laps I catch up to the 9th place driver, have a bit of a battle, sneak past, woooo. Then about 5 seconds later, BLUE FLAG. I'm not holding them up. I try and drive away and I'm getting further infront but then get summoned for another drive through for ignoring the flags.
Unimpressive.
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- DrTrouserPlank
It's suspected that the puncture modifier is just too high, but until codemasters actually acknowledge any more problems other than the pit bug, we won't know.
This is a difficult one to check because a lot of people drive so terribly that they may actually deserve the punctures they are getting.
But it's being mentioned a lot on the official forums.
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- Simcoeace
I would agree with some of the points made by Jenius. However, I think a lot of the judgements come from comparing the game with F1CE.
The graphics are shockingly different from F1CE - almost the polar opposite in style - so they take some getting used to. There're certainly not as good as the (small) You Tube in-game videos would lead one to think.
I went back to F1CE after playing F1 2010 for about three hours. Yes, somehow the cars look "smaller" & the tracks "bigger" in F1CE. The visuals convey a more visceral sense of speed in F1CE. Likewise, the engine sounds are more aggressive & blood curdling in F1CE (I don't know if that means they're more accurate, however). Above all, the FFB (with a G25) is much more vigorous in F1CE.
On the other hand, the physics do seem more "detailed" in F1 2010 - there's more going on when you hit the throttle or brakes. When the tires break-away, it seems a little less sudden than in F1CE. The AI also seems to react more realistically & aggressively to what's going on than it does in F1CE. Driving fast is definitely not "easy".
It always takes a little time to adjust to the look & feel of a new game. From what I've seen so far, F1 2010 is a decent sim-oriented game - I don't think it's going to disappoint in the way that Shift (not to mention Grid!) did. But it's not the last word in F1 sims either. I still feel that if Studio Liverpool had had another 4 years to work on a follow-up F1 game they would likely have come up with something more impressive ...
The graphics are shockingly different from F1CE - almost the polar opposite in style - so they take some getting used to. There're certainly not as good as the (small) You Tube in-game videos would lead one to think.
I went back to F1CE after playing F1 2010 for about three hours. Yes, somehow the cars look "smaller" & the tracks "bigger" in F1CE. The visuals convey a more visceral sense of speed in F1CE. Likewise, the engine sounds are more aggressive & blood curdling in F1CE (I don't know if that means they're more accurate, however). Above all, the FFB (with a G25) is much more vigorous in F1CE.
On the other hand, the physics do seem more "detailed" in F1 2010 - there's more going on when you hit the throttle or brakes. When the tires break-away, it seems a little less sudden than in F1CE. The AI also seems to react more realistically & aggressively to what's going on than it does in F1CE. Driving fast is definitely not "easy".
It always takes a little time to adjust to the look & feel of a new game. From what I've seen so far, F1 2010 is a decent sim-oriented game - I don't think it's going to disappoint in the way that Shift (not to mention Grid!) did. But it's not the last word in F1 sims either. I still feel that if Studio Liverpool had had another 4 years to work on a follow-up F1 game they would likely have come up with something more impressive ...
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- Cumberland, BC
- GTP_BlacqueJack
I got my game yesterday and dabbled a bit (I am Ken Barth Villeneuve
).Similar experience to Biggles; but hey I am not complaining; and it will keep me busy till GT5! 👍
Will try expert level this afternoon (yes taking the afternoon off work!) and see how much of a 'rookie' F1 racer I am
Will try online too at some point after I figure out how it works
Anyone know how to map/change g25 buttons yet?
I like cockpit view but the radio antenna causes me to 'jink' a little left and right to see the car ahead (in the distance
).And yes they may have time to improve before the (announced) release F1 2011
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Anes
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- AnesthesiaXVII
The list of bugs is appalling: http://community.codemasters.com/fo...9298-unofficial-f1-2010-bugs-errors-list.html
They haven't mentioned the graphic slowdowns or the dodgy side pod mirrors either. Sigh, last Codemasters game I'll ever buy. Completely over arcade racers now.
They haven't mentioned the graphic slowdowns or the dodgy side pod mirrors either. Sigh, last Codemasters game I'll ever buy. Completely over arcade racers now.
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- Cumberland, BC
- GTP_BlacqueJack
Biggles:
Custom wheel settings?
I want to switch rearview camera (triangle) with camera view (right button on steering)!
Custom wheel settings?
I want to switch rearview camera (triangle) with camera view (right button on steering)!
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- Voltaic01, GTP_Voltaic
I found the game at a local Gamestop, cancelled my Amazon order. My first impression is that it is way, way easier than rFactor F1 mods with all the assists off, the graphics are amazing though. My biggest issue is the force feedback is at 100%, yet turning feels way too light for my taste. I will give it a good spin none the less, it should be a blast once I'm ready for online racing. Cheers.
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Recieved my copy today and although i've only completed one career race im bitterly disappointed.
For starters the graphics are nowhere near as good as some of the videos have led me to believe. The physics are pretty crap in my opinion and far too arcadey. However what is most disappointing is im used to racing games run at 60FPS like GT5P, FM3 and on F1 2010 this drops below 30FPS at times. I also have to ask what is the point of answering questions from the press. This to me its pointless and boring.
Thankfully as I only paid £31 and will get around £22-£25 trade in I will only lose a few quid. I certainly don't think GT5 has anything to worry about!
For starters the graphics are nowhere near as good as some of the videos have led me to believe. The physics are pretty crap in my opinion and far too arcadey. However what is most disappointing is im used to racing games run at 60FPS like GT5P, FM3 and on F1 2010 this drops below 30FPS at times. I also have to ask what is the point of answering questions from the press. This to me its pointless and boring.
Thankfully as I only paid £31 and will get around £22-£25 trade in I will only lose a few quid. I certainly don't think GT5 has anything to worry about!
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- Cumberland, BC
- GTP_BlacqueJack
- 3,509
- Cumberland, BC
- GTP_BlacqueJack
Left (and right) G25 button does function as zoom camera when you are in the Paddock.
Of course look left or right are the directional buttons on the shifter so I don't use them (yet!).
I wonder if a G27 'maps' better?
Of course look left or right are the directional buttons on the shifter so I don't use them (yet!).
I wonder if a G27 'maps' better?
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- Maxitsu
The list of bugs is appalling: http://community.codemasters.com/fo...9298-unofficial-f1-2010-bugs-errors-list.html
They haven't mentioned the graphic slowdowns or the dodgy side pod mirrors either. Sigh, last Codemasters game I'll ever buy. Completely over arcade racers now.
your language is good 👍
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- GTP_BlacqueJack
