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Out of curiosity, has anyone been able to use global hotkeys while in game? I can't control my music or anything (which means I can't listen to music while playing :()

Plus I got the corrupted save file after doing the performance test at Melbourne. At least this time I qualified 8th at Bahrain, going for 1st! Lotus better love me for that!
 
LOL @ Everyone saying it's too easy, but then admitting to using TC, ABS etc.

ANYONE WHO HAS WON THE FIRST SEASON, WITH NO AIDS SWITCHED ON, IN AN HRT, PLEASE GIVE ME THEIR PSN SO WE CAN RACE ONLINE IN A CUSTOM RACE, 1V1 WITH AIDS TURNED OFF AND A 20% RACE.

If you beat me, by aproximately 2-3seconds, every single lap for the whole race, I'll pipe down about this game being too easy.

I qualied in top 20 UK times in GT Academy 2 for Gran Turismo and have played copious amounts of rFactor and as said earlier, had a go of the Merc Sim (albeit 4 laps).

So please, if you're one of these guys/girls who has wiped the floor with this game, PM me your PSN, I'll add you, we will race online together and if you are 2-3 seconds a lap quicker...I'll pipe down. If you don't beat me, or pull away approximately 2-3 seconds per lap, then there is no way you've won the first championship in career mode with no aids, on the hardest setting - FACT!

PS3 users only - Let's try it.

:)


Edit to say, I am not doubting anyone is faster than me out there. But today, for example, I raced 5 online races and won 4 of them...1 of them being a wet race, in which I won by approx 56seconds taking it very gingerly against people with rankings of "20+" whatever that actually means!

Im consistently outside the top 15 in OFFLINE mode, and if the game is too easy, I should in theory be getting my bum whiped on every online race I attempt. This is simply not the case...Quite the opposite infact!

@ GTP_rpm

You are very fortunate to have had a go on a real F1 simulator, although it sounds a bit scary :scared:

I understand you wont be able to tell us all about it for obvious reasons, but is there anymore you can share with us, like how do the graphics/physics compare to games us mere mortals play on our consoles like F1 2010, F1CE even GT5P, I would love to hear anything else you can share.

Also , I didn't know you were Anthony's brother, know I know why I couldn't keep up with you in our race in Event 03 :D
The graphics were not better than Gran Turismo, but the frame rate was incredible. Not a hint, of hesitation whatsoever! The physics, were alien to me (never driven an F1 car) but the strength in the steering motor was similar to that of outdoor karting in the dry - after 4 laps my hands/arms were pumped! The brake pedal too, is totally rock solid...our gaming brake pedals have a "100%" travel - the sim does not.

HTH - P.s. can't wait to race you again in GT5 :D
 
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Just picked this up for my 360, and the graphics are stunning!

I drove in the STR around Bahrain in practice with all aids off, on the controller, AI at Professional difficulty and I was a good 8 seconds off the pace in practice, I haven't done qualifying or a race yet so I'll have to see if my times improve with more track time, so far I'm very impressed!
 
How do I force the game to use hardware acceleration for the audio instead of the unbelievably laggy Rapture3D and software options? I have no hardware option in the audio menu, and uninstalling Rapture and reinstalling OpenAL merely left me with a software option and nothing else... you're off to a great start, Codemasters. First the "custom wheel mappings don't let you use the wheel's d-pad in the menu" thing, now the laggy audio which I can't fix...
That's weird, I changed the audio to hardware acceleration without any trouble.

About the wheel mappings, is that just with the d-pad? Because I could map all the buttons on my MOMO wheel with no problems either.
 
Yeah, just the d-pad. The assigned buttons work fine in-race to bring up the on-the-fly pit menu, but they do not work anywhere else, even though they do when I use the default G27 button map. Also from what I've read, the game only supports hardware accelerated (= lag-free) audio on specific audio chips (read: Sound Blaster X-Fi) :odd:
 
LOL @ Everyone saying it's too easy, but then admitting to using TC, ABS etc.

ANYONE WHO HAS WON THE FIRST SEASON, WITH NO AIDS SWITCHED ON, IN AN HRT, PLEASE GIVE ME THEIR PSN SO WE CAN RACE ONLINE IN A CUSTOM RACE, 1V1 WITH AIDS TURNED OFF AND A 20% RACE.

If you beat me, by aproximately 2-3seconds, every single lap for the whole race, I'll pipe down about this game being too easy.

Awesome......... i've been waiting for one of the guns to arrive and test the boasters out...... but i'm most eagerly waiting for GagTooth from the earlier pages who has apparently won 24 races out of 32 over 1 3/4 seasons and has 2 x WDC's on Expert/Legend with No Aids to take you up on your challenge.....

Now i finished Top 20 in the Academy in Australia also.... but i can tell you there is no way i'm gonna win a WDC in the HRT, let alone a race. Maybe at Bahrain or Catalunya i might be a chance, but thats it..... i'll find out when the season arrives at the 2 circuits in question!
 
Yeah, just the d-pad. The assigned buttons work fine in-race to bring up the on-the-fly pit menu, but they do not work anywhere else, even though they do when I use the default G27 button map. Also from what I've read, the game only supports hardware accelerated (= lag-free) audio on specific audio chips (read: Sound Blaster X-Fi) :odd:

Okay. See, that....that's stupid as all hell. So, I'm supposed to play a game with lag-tastic, bubble gum popping audio because I don't have an X-Fi DSP? :odd:

I have the same problem with d-pad as well, works fine with the default DFGT settings but as soon as I want to customize the layouts I have to resort to my keyboard to pan between any and every UI menu.
 
Awesome......... i've been waiting for one of the guns to arrive and test the boasters out...... but i'm most eagerly waiting for GagTooth from the earlier pages who has apparently won 24 races out of 32 over 1 3/4 seasons and has 2 x WDC's on Expert/Legend with No Aids to take you up on your challenge.....

Now i finished Top 20 in the Academy in Australia also.... but i can tell you there is no way i'm gonna win a WDC in the HRT, let alone a race. Maybe at Bahrain or Catalunya i might be a chance, but thats it..... i'll find out when the season arrives at the 2 circuits in question!

Right, after breaking my FFB settings I went to fix them and then found out I didn't have tyre simulation turned on for those 32 races. I must say it makes quite a big difference and I apologise for being such a noob and missing that :ouch:. At least we now know why I could put fast lap after fast lap in without the tyres going off :dopey:.

I do however play on Legend and you'll just have to take my word on that. I guess I can do some time trial laps and then take screenshots of the times as proof ?

GTP_rpm I would race with you but i'm a PC player so I can't :(.

Once again, sorry for my stupidity for not having tyre simulation turned on. I hope you can forgive me :nervous:

Kelv
 
It's possible to win in a HRT at China with heavy rain on the hardest settings as the AI is treading carefully. Catalunya dry in a HRT is very difficult to keep up, the speed is just not there with any setup.
 
Qualified 8th @ Bahrain and finished 3rd! Stupid Vettel was riding my rear the whole time then I spun and he was gone. I kept Webber at bay though :)

Legendary at Bahrain is not hard at all. You just have to know what turns they are weak in and what line to take so that you can push past them.

Melbourne up next, I'm having trouble getting a good time in practice, hopefully I can do well in the quals and race though.
 
To put things into perspective, it's worth remembering that GT5P came out with an extreme "rubber-band" effect & that the AI, while somewhat improved over previous GT incarnations, was still worse than almost any other serious racing game out there. In addition GT5P continued to feature the same ridiculous "overtake 15 cars in 3 laps" offline game-play structure. In these respects, it's hardly fair to single out F1 2010 for these types of shortcomings, as it's still light-years ahead of what Prologue had to offer.

If all these issues with F1 2010's AI times are true (I haven't played enough to notice them yet), it is very disappointing. You really need to have confidence in the integrity of your own times & the AI times in order to devote a lot of time to a racing game, otherwise the whole activity just feels arbitrary & pointless. If CM can fix some of these issues via patching then the game has great potential.

Much as I love F1CE, I would have to say that the physics, notwithstanding the great rattling feel of the FFB, have a very "digital" quality. I think the feel of F1 2010's physics is pretty good - would be nice to have the option of a more challenging "sim" setting, but certainly, even as they are, they are nothing like Grid or Shift, which would have been the worst-case scenario.
 
Okay. See, that....that's stupid as all hell. So, I'm supposed to play a game with lag-tastic, bubble gum popping audio because I don't have an X-Fi DSP? :odd:
Yep. Well, technically as long as your sound card has EAX5.

Which only the X-Fi cards have, apparently. So yeah, you need an X-Fi to have lag-free sound - how that got through QA (the general consensus is that using Rapture3D is laggy for everyone) is beyond me.

Oh, wait. Considering some of the other nonsensical stuff that the game "features" (or doesn't), I'm not actually all that surprised. F1 2010 is rapidly becoming a farce, which is a shame because the racing itself is kinda fun.

I have the same problem with d-pad as well, works fine with the default DFGT settings but as soon as I want to customize the layouts I have to resort to my keyboard to pan between any and every UI menu.
Yet the d-pad works fine in DiRT2, whose engine F1 2010's is based on... :odd:
 
So I just set the worlds 9th fastest time in time trial at Melbourne but it hasn't uploaded to the leaderboards. Spewin. Time was a 1.22.348.
 
^ in what car^? I hate how yet again, codemasters hasnt split leader boards by car. I has the fastest lap time in japan on dirt 2 in the R4, yet I was about 5th bc of the S2000 and Dallenboch <spelling? I was really hoping they would allow ranking by car
 
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False alarm, seems there's a 10 minute delay on the leaderboard :S

@ grafpt, I'm in the Mclaren. It's definitely faster than the Red Bull.
 
Right, after breaking my FFB settings I went to fix them and then found out I didn't have tyre simulation turned on for those 32 races. I must say it makes quite a big difference and I apologise for being such a noob and missing that :ouch:. At least we now know why I could put fast lap after fast lap in without the tyres going off :dopey:.

Ahhhh..... i knew there must have been something switched on somewhere..... those results were just impossible to believe, given the feedback on how genuinely difficult the game is on Expert/Legend from some of the most talented steerers around these forums....

As i said earlier, i'm not alien quick, but i can hang around getting the scraps from the aliens:sly:...... and i'm finding the game hard, frustrating, enjoyable and annoying at the same time. Some of the moves from AI at times early in races just defies belief, as does the pit issue. It's ruined plenty of promising results so far.

How have your results been since switching Tyre Simulation on gagtooth?
 
The patch announced is good news. I sincerely hope they address particularly the in-race laptime issues and the fuel weight on AI cars. The latest is in my opinion the most worrying issue at the moment.

As a comparison, I raced HRT at Bahrain yesterday and did qualify with a very good (for the car in question) 2:00:1xx - Difficulty is Hard, AI setting is Legendary and all AIDS off, exception made for the Pit Control & Pit Limiter. Senna's time (team mate) was around 2:03:xxx. Pole position time was set at 1:58:xxx or 1:57:xxx. These times seem realistic and consistent and, although one could argue the likelyhood of a HRT run the Bahrain circuit in 2:00 mark, one also have to bear in mind that this is a "sim" and, therefore, the "fear factor" which in real life is there to prevent you to take that extra step ahead, isn't present here. In all fairness I might say that hardly in game I could take much more out of the HRT (1:59:xxx perhaps).

The problem is in race.

That time granted me a 11th position in the starting grid and, up to lap 9 I was able to run 13th pressing hard Liuzzi who whas on 12th. I'm running 50% distances so at lap 10 I pit in. At the end of lap 11, I was 19th and was approaching 18th & 17th cars when I had a puncture. So, bad luck, pit in again, and returned in 23rd. The whole time after I tried to reach out for Senna who was 22nd. While I was consistently doing 2:03:xx/2:04:xx laps - acceptable considering fuel weight and tire wear - Senna's was on the 2:02:xxx pace - a whole second faster than he was at qualify, with low fuel level and optimum tires!
 
Quick review (aka my rather opinionated opinion, so if you don't agree I don't care) - PC version

Graphics
Visuals are fine. Game looks quite good on high/ultra, and the rain effects are nice. I also like the way a visible race line forms over time.

Loses a couple of points for Codemasters' typical overuse of the sepia filters - I don't want everything to take on a faint yellow/brown tinge - and no proper DX11 support, even though a DirectX 11 setting is clearly there in the config files. It's the year 2010, so it should use 2010 technology; if the system it's running on is DX11-capable that's what the game should use by default, not 9.0c. On top of that, not only does DX11 make the game look nicer, it improves the performance...

8/10

Audio
The cars sound like Formula One cars, so I guess that's something. A pity that apparently only two or three teams were used for sound recording, which inevitably means that half the cars will sound exactly the same.

Double minus marks for the sound lag, which can only be completely solved by using hardware acceleration - but you can only do that if you have certain sound cards/chipsets. Anyone who doesn't have a Sound Blaster X-Fi based card is SOL: using software acceleration reduces the sound lag, but it also reduces game performance.

5/10

Gameplay
First, the good: on the whole, the racing itself is rather enjoyable. The AI is usually pretty smart, unlike in other racing games (I'm looking at you two, rFactor and Gran Turismo).

Now, the bad: the pitstop bug. Intermediates are useless, as slicks are faster in light rain. The obnoxious penalty system, handing you a drive-through for giving someone's rear wheel the faintest of touches. No safety car. The physics... or lack thereof. The cars handle fine, but overall the cars drive a bit too arcadey for my liking; a bit more unpredictability would've been nice. Using a custom button mapping for your wheel disables the use of your wheel's d-pad in the game menus -- very frustrating, as I have to press a button on the G27 shifter unit to bring up the pause screen, but the arrow keys and Esc on my keyboard to actually navigate and close it. On top of all that, the menu setup is annoying as hell.

So a lot of minus marks, and not many plus points.

4/10 (if the racing wasn't somewhat fun, this would've been an easy 2/10)

Longevity
I bought this game hoping it would keep me occupied until GT5 comes out, but after about three hours of playtime I'm already a bit bored with it. The option of 5- and 7-year careers helps the game's longevity, but once you've done at least one of each and won the WDC more times than Michael Schumacher, what else is there to do? Multiplayer offers increased replay value, but unless you're racing with mates you'll likely bore of that eventually too. Complete absence of any other year of cars hurts in a big way - I remember F1 05 (on the PS2) had unlockable rares such as the FW11 Williams, John Player Lotus; in F1 2010, there's no real incentive to keep playing once you've got all the achievements as there are no unlockable cars or tracks.

6/10 (5- and 7-year careers help the score, as does multiplayer; but the game doesn't have an infinite lifespan)

Overall
6/10 - it had/has potential (and is likely to be enjoyable if you're after an out-and-out arcade racer), but glaring omissions - no safety car, no manual pit-lane control, no actual AI in qualifying - and rather significant bugs - the pitstop bug, the screwed up race timings, sound lag - severely detract from the experience. Plus it uses Games for Windows Live on PC, which is evil. Add half a point for the console versions, which obviously don't suffer from the sound lag and menu d-pad issues.

Worth a: rent. In its present state (ie with more bugs and issues than swiss cheese has holes), I can't really recommend buying F1 2010 unless you're an absolute F1 junkie.



In future, any (new) F1 I play will be in rFactor 2.
 
Don't want to sound like I'm bragging (aww who am I kidding :sly:) but I've just set the worlds fastest time on the Melbourne time trial :D

Putting a friendly challenge out to anyone to try and knock me off the top spot :)


But don't try too hard, I like seeing my name up there :lol:
 
Ahhhh..... i knew there must have been something switched on somewhere..... those results were just impossible to believe, given the feedback on how genuinely difficult the game is on Expert/Legend from some of the most talented steerers around these forums....

As i said earlier, i'm not alien quick, but i can hang around getting the scraps from the aliens:sly:...... and i'm finding the game hard, frustrating, enjoyable and annoying at the same time. Some of the moves from AI at times early in races just defies belief, as does the pit issue. It's ruined plenty of promising results so far.

How have your results been since switching Tyre Simulation on gagtooth?

Results so far have been 3rd at Monza, 3rd at Singapore and 3rd at Suzuka. Bit of a pattern developing. At Singapore I would've been 1st but I spun on the 2nd left into the pits and it reset me to track :dunce:.

I've decided to go to Red Bull next season :indiff:. I'll post an update on how i'm doing after a few races.
 
Don't want to sound like I'm bragging (aww who am I kidding :sly:) but I've just set the worlds fastest time on the Melbourne time trial :D

Putting a friendly challenge out to anyone to try and knock me off the top spot :)


But don't try too hard, I like seeing my name up there :lol:

You wouldn't mind sharing the setup for the car you're using would you? It's only fair! :nervous:
It just takes a little energy away from me in the actual game that you can't 'See' the best users TT setups.... It's just a little unfair.

Hehe, I managed to get in the Top 200 with an average Renault in Bahrain with a half-arsed setup. But I havn't tried any harder for those reasons.

It was funny to see 'RENAULT' among all the McLaren,Ferrari,Ferrari,McLaren.......

EDIT: I just found a good site for Setups, which should improve my Confidence for now until I make my own Adjustments!

It'd still be nice to yo' setup, cos' I ain't no fool fool! /The Spontaneus Mr.T
 
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I could list a dozen problems with the game, but it's still a ton of fun for me. I blitzed my first career race with aids on, turned everything off for the second one and at least so far (practice) it looks like I'm way near the back of the field. (and I still have the tire sim off)
 
You wouldn't mind sharing the setup for the car you're using would you? It's only fair! :nervous:

I won't divulge the exact setup but I will considerably narrow it down. I only changed the aero in 'quick setup' under the engineer tab ;)
 
Don't want to sound like I'm bragging (aww who am I kidding :sly:) but I've just set the worlds fastest time on the Melbourne time trial :D

Putting a friendly challenge out to anyone to try and knock me off the top spot :)


But don't try too hard, I like seeing my name up there :lol:

What's your time?

*Puts on racing gloves with a serious face.*

:P
 
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