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[Maxitsu]

Strange! I did Bahrain with exactly these settings (Lotus, Legendary, 30%). At the end of my race, I was last but Petrov and Kubica were first and second with some of the big runners such as Webber, Hamilton and Massa back in positions 10th - 20th. However, Melbourne seemed to be a more realistic result with the expected drivers in their respective positions.

Force india/torro rosso/renault are one of the slowest cars previous seasons but they managed to get in front of the grid.

Vettel at monza, Fisichella at spa, Alonso at singapore. its sport everything can happen now and then. i schould worry if petrov wins every race.

 

[osrg]

My above post, was driving on Legendary.

Maybe so, but what Aids do you have enabled?

 

[Enigma]

No, sometimes the AI don't pit.

I am convinced this is happening in every race of my career (20% race, expert, legend AI, all aids off except autobox and racing line)

Every race goes like this

Work your way to a nice position, 10th for example (remember we are in a Virgin)

Pit when told, everyone else ghosts through you in the pit lane, you are then held in your box till everyone leaves= 17sec stop, or even worse than that your team mate ghosts past you and you then have to que behind him to get into your pit box.

OR

Try to be fly to avoid above situation by pitting a lap later than told, ok thats worked 5 sec stop, rejoin the race to find yourself 23rd or 24th place every single time, you may make up 1 or 2 places after that from the only people that pit after you.

The only explanation I can think of for this is that the majority ARE NOT pitting, (Im talking finishing the race up to 70 secs behind !?)

Maybe the game gets confused when I stay out an extra lap and no one pits, who knows, either way you cant win.

Its pretty much ruining the game for me, in a F1 game the career mode is the main thing for me but now I feel unable to play it.

They are talking about a patch but who knows how soon that will be, what am I supposed to do until then ?

 

[Bram Turismo]

For example, at Malaysia you would never be able to win the race, the AI are just far too quick for the new teams to win.

I'm driving a Lotus, my very first career and I won Malaysia with ease. Legendary AI, medium traction control, ABS on, steering and braking assists off, full car damage, no fuel or tyre simulation.

Even without the simulations on, the AI is far too easy. There should be a difficulty for those that are driving with settings like me to have a challenge. I finished 9th at Bahrein with a puncture halfway through, 12th at Melbourne with a puncture and a following drive-through for touching Di Grassi's rear () and now I won at Malaysia. Standing 5th in the driver's championship.

Enigma:The AI does pit, even up to two times which is a bit weird. I always set my pitstop a bit later than my engineer's strategy to avoid having to enter the pitlane with all the other AI cars.

 

[Enigma]

I have just read This thread over at CM forums.

Its all making sense now, thats why I have been seeing such strange race results.

For example Petrov finishing 3rd and vettel finishing 13th as well as loads of other weird placements. The answer is because the guys that seem to be doing unusually well (ie. Petrov) ARE NOT pitting.

Until its fixed this game is pretty much BROKEN (If you want to play career mode, which I do)

 

[Bram Turismo]

On that, did Bernie secretly tell Codemasters to make Chandhok blindingly fast in the game in return for the F1 license?

I don't know what it is, but there's always a guy popping up in the top 10 in the race out of nowhere, and it's always Chandhok. He doesn't seem to finish in this position, though, but I find the HRTs going extremely fast compared to the midfielders.

 

[livemusic]

I would love to see some proof as its impossible if its your first season. Although, I haven't yet reached those races so I don't know whether the AI takes some of the corners too slowly like some other tracks?
Even so, just on the straights alone the AI should be far ahead. For example, at Malaysia you would never be able to win the race, the AI are just far too quick for the new teams to win.

I could've won the Melbourne race driving for Virgin if I didn't break my front wing mid race. Of course I started on pole, after a rainy qualify session. I guess that was the problem.

All aids off/sims on and AI on Legendary btw.

 

[TS]

Started my career again, this time in the Lotus.

50% race distance, pro AI, no aids, fuel/tyre sim on, qualified 14th, finished 13th.

Had a decent start, moved up to 10th on the first lap, I was running as high as 8th on lap 10 before I made my first pit stop, after my stop I was 10th but I managed to overtake Sutil right out of the pits (he pitted on the same lap as me). I ran 9th for a while but at lap 20 the car started to oversteer a lot (the tyres were wearing out) and I spun out twice on that lap and dropped to 12th, I managed to hang on to it the remainder of the race, but I dropped to 13th as I ran out of fuel on the last lap.

 

[CerealKiller]

Thanks for the info on this pitting bug, I didn't understand why I was getting nailed so bad every pit stop, very frustrating. At least there's online until the patch, sad because I doubt it will arrive before GT5. I've been pretty forgiving of the bugs I've seen but wow, this is a big one, how does something like this slip through QA?

 

[Sharky.]

PC G27 users - what do you have the FFB set to both in-game and in the Logitech profiler? The FFB is fine with environment at 0 and the other two at 100, but with environment at anything above 0 the FFB is horrid (although you could say to an extent that's due to the dual helical gears in the G27...)

Profiler is 105/0/0, centering spring enabled and at 0, wheel rotation 180

 

[crazedmodder]

Quite right. Lengendary AI, all aids off (traction control, braking assist and ABS), fuel and tyre simulation on, and full damage on. I'm finding it very challenging but good fun. Can't see how people will get the bottom three teams battling in the top 10 with these settings... or maybe I just suck. Perhaps with the wheel it's easier. I'm using a Sixaxis.

In terms of no aids, I think it is better suited to a wheel. Brake lockup and wheelspin are pretty easy to get if you are not gentle.

Top 10 is possible. Podiums are rare and only possible if you are in a good position at the end of lap 1.

I got 3rd in Bahrain (qualified 8th), 3rd in Melbourne (qualified on pole) and 8th in Malaysia (qualified 18th) in a Lotus with Legendary AI, expert settings but pit controls/speed limiter automatic. Easy? I would not say so but then difficulty is a subjective thing.

I am convinced this is happening in every race of my career (20% race, expert, legend AI, all aids off except autobox and racing line)

Every race goes like this

Work your way to a nice position, 10th for example (remember we are in a Virgin)

Pit when told, everyone else ghosts through you in the pit lane, you are then held in your box till everyone leaves= 17sec stop, or even worse than that your team mate ghosts past you and you then have to que behind him to get into your pit box.

OR

Try to be fly to avoid above situation by pitting a lap later than told, ok thats worked 5 sec stop, rejoin the race to find yourself 23rd or 24th place every single time, you may make up 1 or 2 places after that from the only people that pit after you.

The only explanation I can think of for this is that the majority ARE NOT pitting, (Im talking finishing the race up to 70 secs behind !?)

Maybe the game gets confused when I stay out an extra lap and no one pits, who knows, either way you cant win.

Its pretty much ruining the game for me, in a F1 game the career mode is the main thing for me but now I feel unable to play it.

They are talking about a patch but who knows how soon that will be, what am I supposed to do until then ?

You can turn off tire simulation. I know it is a crappy solution but if you really want to play career mode then it is a temporary solution until the patch comes out. Luckily I have not really noticed this because I always finish in a decent position for a Lotus. Pretty sure Alonso does not usually pit because he usually leads the race from beginning to end but I never lose position because of it.

On that, did Bernie secretly tell Codemasters to make Chandhok blindingly fast in the game in return for the F1 license?

I don't know what it is, but there's always a guy popping up in the top 10 in the race out of nowhere, and it's always Chandhok. He doesn't seem to finish in this position, though, but I find the HRTs going extremely fast compared to the midfielders.

I don't understand it either, at the start he blows past even better cars like the Williams and just roars away from all the other slow cars. Straights is the same thing too, he just blows by me without trouble.

 

[Spagetti69]

Guy's try turning fuel sim off.
The AI are not effected when it is turned on. This leads to the start off the race being out paced by the AI by a good margin, until later when you've burnt off the fuel.

By turning this off you will have a much more closer race from start to finish.
I only run 100% distance in my career mode.

Just find the right difficulty level for yourselfs and have a blast.

Word off warning. When you get to catalunya, drop the difficulty level down a notch, there stupidly fast round there lol.

These issue's should be getting sorted via a patch hopefully.

The blessing is that when you start a career your not stuck with the first options you make ie legendary difficulty etc.

Just needs tweaking to find your level.

 

[Obli]

Yeah, I have to wonder whether these bugs were (re)introduced right toward the end of development because I assume Codemasters had QA / testers and they should have spotted the more obvious issues.

 

[Enigma]

You can turn off tire simulation. I know it is a crappy solution but if you really want to play career mode then it is a temporary solution until the patch comes out. Luckily I have not really noticed this because I always finish in a decent position for a Lotus. Pretty sure Alonso does not usually pit because he usually leads the race from beginning to end but I never lose position because of it.

Yes, but surely you will still need to pit as the rules state in a dry race you need to use both tyre compounds.

 

[crooky369]

Came across another bug yesterday at Hungary. After I pitted from the lead and rejoined in the lead I spun after pushing too hard which meant Alonso passed me, after this he started posting amazing laptimes and for all I could try I was always about 3 seconds behind even though I driving much quicker than in qualifying and in the first part of the race.

Even though I spun in the final lap I kept my 2nd place because the gap between 1st and 3rd had grown to 20 seconds in seven laps!

 

[Bram Turismo]

Had an awesome time battling De la Rosa and Vettel at Shanghai. Qualified 5th just behind Massa, but I lost two places at the start. I saw a gap at the second hairpin but overshot my braking point, spun out and set back into 24th. Worked my way up the field to finish 9th. I could easily have overtaken Vettel for 8th but I settled on having a good one-on-one time with the AI rather than blasting past them with such ease.

Judging from earlier posts I was expecting a hard challenge at Catalunya, but it turns out this track is as easy as the others. P1 was a wet session in which I finished 14th. The track started to dry up and the times were getting faster. When the track dried up the AI drove times as fast as 1:23 which I thought was going to be impossible. But after a quick set up and equipping the harder compound dry tyres I easily set a 1:22.365.

Expected them to be faster in qualifying, but I took P1 in both sessions and finished 10th in Q3 in the rain with inters equipped according to my engineer. By the time I was on my flyer the track was way too wet for inters and time was out, so I had to settle with 10th.

Having an issue with the realistic sunlight mod though: It seems to activate just completely randomly. It's activated on my first practice lap and Q1, but not in practice 2 and Q2 or Q3. It's always activated during the race, though. It's a good thing it is in the race because this mod makes the game look so much better 👍

 

[PeterJB]

I'm actually that my driving appears to be worse than everybody else, because it means I finish in realistic positions, I have no intention of winning in a Lotus unless it's a chaotic race!

 

[Spagetti69]

Bram what car you running?

I'm in a Lotus getting blitzed by Trulli, can't keep up for the life of me.

I'm pretty sure the press mention the fact that upgrades should be getting fitted to all cars at this stage of the championship, except mine it seems lol.

 

[Bram Turismo]

Bram what car you running?

I'm in a Lotus getting blitzed by Trulli, can't keep up for the life of me.

I'm pretty sure the press mention the fact that upgrades should be getting fitted to all cars at this stage of the championship, except mine it seems lol.

I'm driving a Lotus as well. I think I got a brake upgrade at Shanghai, but that's as for as upgrades go. I play with ABS on and medium traction control, full damage, no tyre or fuel simulation, no steering or braking assists. I'll probably start driving without ABS and traction control next season and with tyre wear on. It should make a little harder, but I can't see myself lapping laps 5-6 seconds slower with a better car like the Mercedes or Renault.

 

[osrg]

Had an awesome time battling De la Rosa and Vettel at Shanghai. Qualified 5th just behind Massa, but I lost two places at the start. I saw a gap at the second hairpin but overshot my braking point, spun out and set back into 24th. Worked my way up the field to finish 9th. I could easily have overtaken Vettel for 8th but I settled on having a good one-on-one time with the AI rather than blasting past them with such ease.

Judging from earlier posts I was expecting a hard challenge at Catalunya, but it turns out this track is as easy as the others. P1 was a wet session in which I finished 14th. The track started to dry up and the times were getting faster. When the track dried up the AI drove times as fast as 1:23 which I thought was going to be impossible. But after a quick set up and equipping the harder compound dry tyres I easily set a 1:22.365.

Expected them to be faster in qualifying, but I took P1 in both sessions and finished 10th in Q3 in the rain with inters equipped according to my engineer. By the time I was on my flyer the track was way too wet for inters and time was out, so I had to settle with 10th.

Having an issue with the realistic sunlight mod though: It seems to activate just completely randomly. It's activated on my first practice lap and Q1, but not in practice 2 and Q2 or Q3. It's always activated during the race, though. It's a good thing it is in the race because this mod makes the game look so much better 👍

Trust me, when you turn all your assists off and run Expert/Legend..... you'll be looking for a warm milk and a lie down with your dummy.

Ran Catalunya last night after Qualifying P12 with a low 1.24.2xx. Pole was Hamilton on a 1.21.0xx. Senna was P15 on a 1.25.0xx.

Race starts, and everyone immediately settles in ( i mean everyone above me) to lapping in the low 1.23.xxx on Options whilst i'm stuck lapping in low 1.27's in traffic and 1.25.xxx by the time i see some clear air (this is in the HRT) by lap 3 i'm back out to P15. Lap 5 comes and half the field have pitted to Primes and they are still lapping in low to mid 1.24.xxx...... i pit Lap 6 onto Primes and see my times out to 1.28.xxx.

Now at this stage due to 3-4 guys leaving the track and losing time i'm running as high as P11. Lap 10, and we have drizzle....... i start to level out with the leaders on laptimes and consolidate my position. A few more incidents in the field and by the chequered flag i'm lucky as a leprechaun to finish P9, 51 seconds down on race winner Kubica. Hardest race i've ever done on any console, ever.

Bram, it's time for you to man up, get some balls and run full Expert/Legend with no Aids.... there will be no driving up to Vettel's bumper and playing with him in a Lotus, thats for sure.

 

[Obli]

Quite agree. I switched off fuel simulation earlier (I read that AI cars are not affected by fuel simulation being on) and I can lap much more competitively now. I was being smoked before! As mentioned, with ALL aids off, fuel and tyre simulation on and AI to Legendary, it's very tough in the Lotus!

 

[Bram Turismo]

Bram, it's time for you to man up, get some balls and run full Expert/Legend with no Aids.... there will be no driving up to Vettel's bumper and playing with him in a Lotus, thats for sure.

I prefer teasing Vettel rather than playing Trulli-train for 30 laps though

I had to retire from a wet Catalunya race. I started in 10th, was chasing Rosberg for 8th I believe when I spun out over the curbs. Back in 10th right behind Kobayashi who was starting to improve his laptimes and I could no longer keep up. It stopped raining, the track was drying up but all of a sudden everyone started lapping flat 1:22s on intermediates

Very odd how they lap times that are the equivalent of their qualifying times when on a bone dry track on soft tyres...

 

[Ardius]

I run with no aids and full simulation using the pad, its just not possible for me to win any race with Lotus in the first season. Maybe if I got lucky with a wet qualy at Monaco or somewhere but even then with the pit stops and everything, its close to impossible, the amount of concentration just to keep the AI behind (they can be very opportunistic!) as well as not crash into a wall is intense enough fighting for 12th place!
I'm impressed you won Malaysia, but I can't see how its possible, I'm very suspicious of the physics engine at this point, as even with TCS and ABS I can't see the car being that much faster. I'm suspecting whether using aids also gives too much of an advantage or uses a completely different physics engine and/or AI. I had trouble hanging onto places simply because the AI would always catch me on the staights without a fairly decent gap and I would have to defend to the extreme to stop them taking the place. Then I had to be really on it through the rest of the lap to make sure I kept that gap. At places like Istanbul, I've found it far easier to maintain decent gaps and keep people behind on straights, but even so, I can never make the difference in qualfiying to get near enough to the leaders and I can only ever put in the race pace to catch 6th or 7th. The only reason I can do so though is because the AI take turn 8 way too slow.

 

[Obli]

I run with no aids and full simulation using the pad, its just not possible for me to win any race with Lotus in the first season. Maybe if I got lucky with a wet qualy at Monaco or somewhere but even then with the pit stops and everything, its close to impossible, the amount of concentration just to keep the AI behind (they can be very opportunistic!) as well as not crash into a wall is intense enough fighting for 12th place!
I'm impressed you won Malaysia, but I can't see how its possible, I'm very suspicious of the physics engine at this point, as even with TCS and ABS I can't see the car being that much faster. I'm suspecting whether using aids also gives too much of an advantage or uses a completely different physics engine and/or AI. I had trouble hanging onto places simply because the AI would always catch me on the staights without a fairly decent gap and I would have to defend to the extreme to stop them taking the place. Then I had to be really on it through the rest of the lap to make sure I kept that gap. At places like Istanbul, I've found it far easier to maintain decent gaps and keep people behind on straights, but even so, I can never make the difference in qualfiying to get near enough to the leaders and I can only ever put in the race pace to catch 6th or 7th. The only reason I can do so though is because the AI take turn 8 way too slow.

Turn off fuel simulation as a test - it's surprising how much difference it makes to one's lap times.

 

[Spagetti69]

Turn off fuel simulation as a test - it's surprising how much difference it makes to one's lap times.

It's a bug I think. Your car is heavier than your rivals till you burn off the fuel. By turning off the fuel sim, your all equal. Only downside is that you miss out on the cars handling changing during the race, no biggie really.

I leave tyre sim on though, so that changes the handling. I'm reading that some turn tyre sim off. Any reason for this?

 

[crooky369]

About wet races and not having to change tyres, what actually counts as a wet race?

Like say if you started on the options (harder tyres) then there was a few spits of rain and the team got your teammate to pit in for wets then would you be able to go the whole distance with the options?

It's a bug I think. Your car is heavier than your rivals till you burn off the fuel. By turning off the fuel sim, your all equal. Only downside is that you miss out on the cars handling changing during the race, no biggie really.

I leave tyre sim on though, so that changes the handling. I'm reading that some turn tyre sim off. Any reason for this?

I think it makes you quicker but it definitely gives you more room to change strategy if needed like when I was racing at Germany there was quite a high chance of rain so I stayed out on the options till the last lap so I wouldn't have to make two pitstops if it did rain.

 

[Obli]

It's a bug I think. Your car is heavier than your rivals till you burn off the fuel. By turning off the fuel sim, your all equal. Only downside is that you miss out on the cars handling changing during the race, no biggie really.

Yes, I read about this bug. Either way, I seem much more competitive with the fuel simulation off, at least initially. Not sure how heavy the car is with it off.

I leave tyre sim on though, so that changes the handling. I'm reading that some turn tyre sim off. Any reason for this?

Yes, I believe there are less or maybe no punctures at all with tyre simulation off. Punctures are a pain in the ass - I seem to get them regularly (punctures, that is).

 

[Bram Turismo]

I originally turned tyre sim off because I was expecting the puncture bug, but I have come to realize punctures seem to have nothing to do with the tyre sim option but rather car damage. I've ran into a tyre puncture in 4 of my 5 races so far.

 

[osrg]

I prefer teasing Vettel rather than playing Trulli-train for 30 laps though

Point taken, but it's hardly a challenge, or IMHO enjoyable when it's that easy mate.....

 

[Captain Roh]

WaHooo! Just finished my second GP.

Bahrain. 4th
Melbourne. 3rd
Team: Force India.

(Expert. All Aids OFF. DFGT. OSD OFF. PS3)

Have to say I was pleased with fourth at Bahrain, but when I finished 3rd at Melbourne I was ecstatic!! I started 10th but managed to pick up two places in the first two corners. 7th came with a mistake from Massa and, if I do say so myself 6th with a blinding overtake around the outside of turn one. I was in Button's slipstream the length of the pit lane and when he went defensive I stuck it to him! Made the rest of the places by keeping my pace up while others around me pitted. Entered in 3rd myself and came out in 3rd. Then I had a lonely final stint putting in fast laps to the finish. (PB:1'29.483 if anyones interested)

Looking forward to Malaysia. I've always loved the Genting curves (turns 5 & 6) They're two of my favourite corners on the calender. I'm hoping to start some R&D here as well. My brother has been playing this too and he started R&D at Melbourne. Is there any way to check wether I'm the No.1 driver in the team? I saw on one of the game hints that only the No.1 gets the R&D. Or a choice on the development route. Or something. lol. I dont know exactly but I havent had a whiff of anything yet.