FIFA World Cup 2010 Finals Thread

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Fastas
I don't think England did so bad. Of course, I would have been as happy as anyone else to see the team win 14-0 but, it doesn't always pay to go all-out in the first group game. A draw in the first game is steady and it will not affect the chances of progressing past the group stages.

Things to be pleased about:
Green will me a sharper and more focused keeper and will probably do a lot more work with the ball.
There were no injuries to our players.
We didn't bust a gut or get walloped.
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That, and what Dave said on Joe Cole, why he a) didn't start b) replace the left-winger is a mystery.

SWP is just an awful player, he has no first touch capabilities and generally is just a bit rubbish.

I thought Gerrard, Heskey (barring off-sides and that 1on1) and Lennon had decent games. Bring in Cole and Barry for Milner and Lampard vs Algeria, please.
 
Famine
He only touched the ball with his hands while it was in play twice. One of those was to knock it into his own net.

He's inept. He always has been and always will be. I'm quite a critic of David James as a keeper - though he is an excellent shot-stopper and penalty saver - so it has to come to something when I say I prefer David James to some other keeper. I prefer David James to Rob Green.

I'd prefer to put Susan Boyle, Angelica from the Rugrats, my dog or fourteen cubic feet of argon gas in goal than Robert Green.
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:lol: Well I passed out and didn't get to see the game. Saw highlights though. Hi-larious.
 
I was living in Aberdeen in the summer of '96. No pub would let me in on a certain day and I had to stay in and watch the tele :sly:

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Fastas
I don't think England did so bad. Of course, I would have been as happy as anyone else to see the team win 14-0 but, it doesn't always pay to go all-out in the first group game. A draw in the first game is steady and it will not affect the chances of progressing past the group stages.

Things to be pleased about:
Green will me a sharper and more focused keeper and will probably do a lot more work with the ball.
There were no injuries to our players.
We didn't bust a gut or get walloped.
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I'll be pleased if Green doesn't play again.
King pick up an injury, that's why Carragher took his place at half time.
We gave the ball away. A lot. In our own half. We had good spells but overall we didn't play well. I'm still baffled at Carraghers pass in extra time, that right there says to me that they didn't want to go for the win.
 
Only_in_f1
Im so glad the American's are looking forward to tonight's game as much as we are!

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Ok, so take a big pinch of sarcasm salt before you get agitated reading this... :sly:

So what does this guy want?
NFL ended after it's pathetically short 16-ish game season in February. There's no NFL to watch in June / July anyway! :dunce:
All you get is TVs full of pundits rehashing play after play with on-sceen X - O & arrow markers over & over & over again and more excitement about who picks which players for next season than half of the actual games themselves.

Finely tuned athletes, my arse. Some of them, QBs, receivers, kickers, maybe.
American Football was designed to give the abundance of fat kids a sport to be good at!! :P
Can they excel at real Football, run around for 90 minutes? (not 60 like the ignorant muppet above suggests :dunce:) No.
They're knackered after 20s, but hey, in NFL that's OK, 'cos they'll just throw in another commercial break for him to go and grab another Bud Light while the tired fat blokes get substituted off for another nice long rest before their next 20s stint.
Same goes for them in basketball, baseball, hockey, rugby or whatever else that requires prolonged physical exertion, but in the new world view of "inclusion for all", we can pad up the fat kids & call them defensive tackles or linemen, put a helmet on 'em and let them stand and be, well, fat blockades for 20s at a time!

Oh, and someone perhaps ought to let him know that Football is perceived by 5.7 billion people around the world as the game with 11 players and a round ball you play with at your feet, not as some of the 330 million Americans (that's less than 6% of the world's population ;)) keep trying to insist that their curiously named "handegg*" game is what everyone else should call football too. (and to be honest it's the smallest minority of fanatical NFLheads at that, not the populus in general before anyone accuses me of being Anti-American!)

Anyway, this is the Football World Cup and it's what we're here to discuss, so sorry for the offtopic rant.

I've just enjoyed watching a great game of Football, that could've gone either way. I must admit my loyalties had to be with my homeland for this game, and I'd love to have seen England win, however, I'm happy enough with the result as we also didn't lose, and I will be supporting the US in all their remaining games now too 👍 (unless they meet England again! ;))

*shamelessly borrowed from Alex.'s post in the Premier League Fantasy Football thread.
 
Green's failure was determinant to the result, but another factor to consider was the English squad behaviour, a shame. Kicking the ball to the other side of the field won't give you the victory ( Well, usually ), the game was very, very boring to watch. I'm sorry, but I like to see the ball being passed, not kicked all over the field again and again.

Bad result for England, regardless of Green's failure, the US team is poor and won't be going too far in the cup.

Also, Glen Johnson was great in this game, he just need to improve his accuracy in the crosses.
 
If the US team is so poor, how'd they get so far in the Confederations cup?
 
Who did they play in the Confederations cup?

Never mind, I had a memory blank now I remember watching it. Yeah you had a very good run in that cup, I was hoping for a USA win in the final, not that I don't like Brazil but they're won enough ;).

That said the USA team are not as bad as they're made out to be. Dempsey is a goal threat and Landon Donovan looked good when he came over here for a spell on loan with Everton. Altidore spent last season playing for Hull and didn't really hit it off. I think he's got some ability but he doesn't score enough. Other than that there's some okay players, USA are not as poor as some suggest but on the flip side they aren't near the quality of the likes of Spain, Brazil, Netherlands, Pharaoh Islands etc.
 
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I can't tell, you guys scored twice in two counterattacks against Brazil, after that, the team just vanished and allowed us to win.

I was predicting 2-1 England in a nice match to watch, the US team didn't even resemble that agile and nimble team that was capable of beating Spanish in the confederations cup.

I was expecting more of the US team in this match, hence my criticism. After playing brilliantly in the Confederations cup, I was expecting them to surprise "bigger" teams, but England didn't offer too much resistance, many passing errors and defensive flaws, not to mention Green.

If Green didn't fail, the game would have been completely different.
 
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Someone from my school, same grade too, is the flag bearer for Brazil in their opening game on Tuesday. Lucky bastard, not only because he gets to go to SA ,but he gets to miss end of year exams :grumpy:
 
Smallhorses
Ok, so take a big pinch of sarcasm salt before you get agitated reading this... :sly:

So what does this guy want?
NFL ended after it's pathetically short 16-ish game season in February. There's no NFL to watch in June / July anyway! :dunce:
All you get is TVs full of pundits rehashing play after play with on-sceen X - O & arrow markers over & over & over again and more excitement about who picks which players for next season than half of the actual games themselves.

Finely tuned athletes, my arse. Some of them, QBs, receivers, kickers, maybe.
American Football was designed to give the abundance of fat kids a sport to be good at!! :P
Can they excel at real Football, run around for 90 minutes? (not 60 like the ignorant muppet above suggests :dunce:) No.
They're knackered after 20s, but hey, in NFL that's OK, 'cos they'll just throw in another commercial break for him to go and grab another Bud Light while the tired fat blokes get substituted off for another nice long rest before their next 20s stint.
Same goes for them in basketball, baseball, hockey, rugby or whatever else that requires prolonged physical exertion, but in the new world view of "inclusion for all", we can pad up the fat kids & call them defensive tackles or linemen, put a helmet on 'em and let them stand and be, well, fat blockades for 20s at a time!

Oh, and someone perhaps ought to let him know that Football is perceived by 5.7 billion people around the world as the game with 11 players and a round ball you play with at your feet, not as some of the 330 million Americans (that's less than 6% of the world's population ;)) keep trying to insist that their curiously named "handegg*" game is what everyone else should call football too. (and to be honest it's the smallest minority of fanatical NFLheads at that, not the populus in general before anyone accuses me of being Anti-American!)

Anyway, this is the Football World Cup and it's what we're here to discuss, so sorry for the offtopic rant.

I've just enjoyed watching a great game of Football, that could've gone either way. I must admit my loyalties had to be with my homeland for this game, and I'd love to have seen England win, however, I'm happy enough with the result as we also didn't lose, and I will be supporting the US in all their remaining games now too 👍 (unless they meet England again! ;))

*shamelessly borrowed from Alex.'s post in the Premier League Fantasy Football thread.
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Excelent writing:D! I would like to have a hand of applause for this man please!! :lol:
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Dan_
Green's failure was determinant to the result, but another factor to consider was the English squad behaviour, a shame. Kicking the ball to the other side of the field won't give you the victory ( Well, usually ), the game was very, very boring to watch. I'm sorry, but I like to see the ball being passed, not kicked all over the field again and again.
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Yep.

Dan_
Bad result for England, regardless of Green's failure, the US team is poor and won't be going too far in the cup.
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Yep. They were given the ball time and again, with chances to run at the defence, get wide, cross in and they never capitalised on it. Their only goal was an opportunistic shot from a Premier League player from the club which reached the Europa League Final against a Premier League 'keeper from the club with the fifth worst defence in the division...

Dan_
If Green didn't fail, the game would have been completely different.
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No, it would still have been a boring demonstration of ineptitude, just without the most inept goalkeeper in the tournament. It would also have been an England victory - meaning the idiots would have believed they did well.

This result could be a good one. A wake-up for Fabio to play a left-winger on the left - rather than another right-winger - a pair of strikers up front and someone who can keep goal slightly better than a drunk fat kid.
 
When I was a GK in the local PAL, I was as good as Gigi Buffon. Only let two goals through in 2 seasons. Then we moved to larger goals and I played like Robert Green. That was the end of my soccer career. :D I love the Hand Of Clod tag they've put on his error. I bet Robinson is having a good laugh.

Anyway, it sounds like it was a good thing I slept through that one.
 
The Daily Mail win this weekend's World Cup Caption Competition with the following example of insightful, expert analysis:

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Capello: Not happy​

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I was able to watch the game last night after all, with my Dad, cousin and Uncle. We had the following conversation:

"Those bloody horn things are really annoying"
"Incase you're wondering, the note they produce is a B flat"
"It sounds like a swarm of bees..."
"Don't you mean a swarm of B flats?"
 
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The Algeria - Slovenia match this morning was woeful, hoping the current match will be much better.
 
Stevisiov
The Algeria - Slovenia match this morning was woeful, hoping the current match will be much better.
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Yep. The Algerian keeper made a similar, but worse mistake than Green did. A decent shot from the Slovenian captain, not totally in the right corner and their keeper dived to the ground with his hands in front of him thinking he had his body behind the ball. :ill: If he actually stuck his hand out and dived properly, it wouldn't have been that hard of a save to make.
 
Half these games are rubbish!

Someone said today the makers of the ball are flying out to SA to see how the altitude affects the ball.... Bit late now....
 
crazytortise
So far it dosn't seem overly exciting. Maybe Germany and Australia will do better tonight.
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Serbia seem to be the team who are most likely to go through second in group D. Although I want to wait and see what Australia are capable of.

Only_in_f1
Half these games are rubbish!

Someone said today the makers of the ball are flying out to SA to see how the altitude affects the ball.... Bit late now....
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I hope you weren't expecting to see a show of excellence. I mean, most international teams don't have the organisation of a club team, they don't have the time together to really gel properly. Add to that the day temperature which is very hot during the day, and consider the altitude of some of these games and its easy to see why many of these games have a slow pace. Given that the players also fatigue early due to conditions, the skill level drops of extremely quickly and the game becomes very scrappy. The Argentinian match was a great example of this, Argentina massively outclassed Nigeria in the first half an hour of the match. Compare that to the last half an hour which resembled a pub football scrap.

The night matches have the highest chance of being the good ones (especially those at sea level), unfortunately it was England playing last night so it was doomed from the start, Germany Australia tonight, should be much better.

The ball at altitude is a bit of a scape goat really, given the ball is supposed to be round, its hard to really do all that much to the aerodynamics of it. It's possible, that given that it is already a light ball, the slightly reduced air drag (due to lower density air) stops the ball slowing too much in the air, and it has even more tendency to act like a fly away ball, but that's really clutching at straws.
 
Stevisiov
The ball at altitude is a bit of a scape goat really, given the ball is supposed to be round, its hard to really do all that much to the aerodynamics of it. It's possible, that given that it is already a light ball, the slightly reduced air drag (due to lower density air) stops the ball slowing too much in the air, and it has even more tendency to act like a fly away ball, but that's really clutching at straws.
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The big thing over the last few years has been the valve weight. Whilst this normally meant once the ball got spinning with the valve nicely placed it would stay consistant. Now they've all but removed the effect of the valve-weight the balls spin less consistant, hence drag, and curl is less consistant than it was before.

Atleast that's what a lecturer of mine thought of it all.
 
AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE!! OI OI OI!!

We're up against Germany, right now. :cool: Pim's boys are going to run wild on you Germans, you underestimated us at the wrong time. :mischievous:

*added bit* WTF!? I just hit post, and not even a second after, Germany's up 1-0!! :grumpy: Not Happy Jan!! C'mon Aussies!!
 
Ah nuts... Klose misses and Podolski scores - I have money on Klose for Golden Boot, and he's also in my Fantasy World Cup team(s)...

I want Australia to win, but I reckon Germany will win - I just hope it is a close game.
 

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