FITT challenge. Viper Strike Closed Congratulations to Lap; Lionheart2113 & Drivers choice Xande1959

[Otaliema]

Not liking the new tamed down physics. How in the world do we rid cars of the famous Gran Turismo understeer now?

Power oversteer. And every setting you can find to generate oversteer with, than retame it, that's what I did

 

[787bcgr]

Sign me up as a tuner please.

 

[Otaliema]

Sign me up as a tuner please.

Done sir

 

[Motor City Hami]

Sorry @Otaliema but this competition must be shut down. There are no new Vipers to be ordered. Production has been shut down... again. https://autos.yahoo.com/news/not-again-viper-production-halted-two-weeks-123010993.html

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Sorry @Otaliema but this competition must be shut down. There are no new Vipers to be ordered. Production has been shut down... again. https://autos.yahoo.com/news/not-again-viper-production-halted-two-weeks-123010993.html

Good thing we all got our orders in early.

Understeer is an issue still, and I don't like power oversteer. That's been my biggest issue with cars over 525pp in this game, fixing one causes the other. I am fairly happy with where my tune is at and may just submit as is since I may only make it worse. Not sure I will be that fast as testers may drive it differently anyway. Suppose that magic pill in a bottle called SRF would fix it.

 

[Lionheart2113]

Good thing we all got our orders in early.

Understeer is an issue still, and I don't like power oversteer. That's been my biggest issue with cars over 525pp in this game, fixing one causes the other. I am fairly happy with where my tune is at and may just submit as is since I may only make it worse. Not sure I will be that fast as testers may drive it differently anyway. Suppose that magic pill in a bottle called SRF would fix it.

Same here with the understeer and the thought about submitting my tune. I've reached my goal (lap time wise, so I "should" be happy) but I know I can do better since I oops'd on the last left turn at the bottom of the hill. Not sure how the testers are going to take to it though. With a track like this, one little miscalculation on a bump can make the car react in a bad way.

 

[Otaliema]

Sorry @Otaliema but this competition must be shut down. There are no new Vipers to be ordered. Production has been shut down... again. https://autos.yahoo.com/news/not-again-viper-production-halted-two-weeks-123010993.html

Well time to call it the modern classic viper strike battle .
I personally think it's time these euro owned American car company's ditch the FR drivetrain on the sports cars and go with
MR and get some serious comp for the euro/Asian sports cars.

Good thing we all got our orders in early.

Understeer is an issue still, and I don't like power oversteer. That's been my biggest issue with cars over 525pp in this game, fixing one causes the other. I am fairly happy with where my tune is at and may just submit as is since I may only make it worse. Not sure I will be that fast as testers may drive it differently anyway. Suppose that magic pill in a bottle called SRF would fix it.

I don't know many that like power oversteer makes the car unpredictable, it's just a matter of finding the settings that make the nuteral handling so at least it's not drivin into the wall when you let off the gas.
@Lionheart2113 i hear the last 3 corners can add or take 2 seconds off the laps.

 

[Lionheart2113]

@Otaliema Yes, I found some speed on the last third of the lap, you are right! But it does make the front third a little more unpredictable.

 

[Otaliema]

Spreadsheet updated with new tuners. Also corrected some formula errors for the fastest lap and added display text to fill in blanks till laps times are submitted.

 

[Lionheart2113]

Spreadsheet updated with new tuners. Also corrected some formula errors for the fastest lap and added display text to fill in blanks till laps times are submitted.

Are you missing a DC column for yourself between D & E??

 

[MrGrado]

Viper GTS '13
638PP
Tuned 10 July 2014

Tyres
Sports Soft

Suspension
Full Custom Suspension
ride height: 119 119
spring rate: 6.50 8.08
bound: 6 6
rebound: 4 2
sway: 5 5
camber(-): 4.5 4.2
toe: -0.43 -0.12
Racing Brakes
brakes: 9 9

Transmission
Full Custom Transmission
3.500
1.966
1.592
1.270
0.980
0.846
final: 3.545

Drive Train
Full Custom Differential
11 / 33 / 15
Standard Clutch
Standard Shaft

Power
Limiter: 72.5%
All Horsepower parts
(No Nos)

Body
Ballast: 55@12
All Weight Reduction mods

GT Auto
Change Oil: No
Increase Rigidity: No
Wheels: Standard

Fitted Parts
Aero Kit: B
Custom Wing: wing stay B, Wing G, Winglets J, Height -6, width +44.
Other: Part A
Flat Floor: Fitted

Paint
Race Yellow Clear Coat (Factory paint)

Tuner Notes
can't get transmission tuned?
1. install all horsepower mods
2. reset transmission to default
3. set gear ratios

1:24.400 Trial Mountain. No ABS, No Aids, DS3.

 

[Otaliema]

Are you missing a DC column for yourself between D & E??

No it's a joined cell with a | as a display seaperator in it.
I'll load some junk numbers in so every can get a look at it for how it will read once the testing starts.

@MrGrado linked to tuners post sir.

Also updated rules before someone grey lines this one. No NOS!!!!

 

[xande1959]

Viper strike

Here is a “quick” challenge while @Ronald6 finishes his challenge up.
Time table
Monday July 7th -7:30 am MST (-7 GMT) Monday July 14th Tuning
Monday July 14th 7:31 am - Tuesday July 22 7:30 am Test driving.
(note the end of the tuning or testing date may change +/- 24 hours depending on my wife’s work schedule) I will know in a day or so.


Car
One class only so it’s a all in fight.

Viper GTS ‘13

Rules
No Oil Change
No NOS!!!
Aero; All permitted
Wheels; +1 inch up allowed
Chassis reinforcement; Permitted
Weight: Minimum weight of 1300 kg
Power; Up-to 750 hp (example setup, Engine 1, Sport computer & Exhaust, Iso Manifold, PL 99.2%)
Tires; Sports Soft
All tuning parts; Permitted.


Track

Trial Mountain

(if there is strong opposition to the track I will take suggestions till Wednesday July 9th for a new one, as long as it’s not not high speed ring, an oval, a city or a track that has been used a bunch in past events.)


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All tuners and test drivers must be familiar with FITT standardized rules of competition found here

Lets the tuning start!

=can count on me, I have a good tuned to,👍

 

[xande1959]

-viper gts'13

-
-DODGE VIPER SRT GTS '13

-Points Performance ............................. 633 pp

-Displacement ..................................... --- cc

-Weight ............................................. 1,300 Kg

-Max. Power ........................................ 750 HP /5,400 rpm

-Max. Torque ....................................... 753,1 ft-lb / 5,200 rpm

-Power-to-Weight Ratio ........................ 1,73 kg/HP

-Front/Rear weight Distribution .............. 51 : 49

-Drivetrain .......................................... FR

-SUSPENCION KIT//////////////////Brake discs & calipers (Racing brakes)

.115 (front) Ride Height (rear) 117 ////// 7 (front) / (rear) 8

. 6,93 (F) Spring Rate (R) 9,32

. 2 (F)Dampers(comp (R) 3

. 7 (F)Dampers(ext (R) 6

. 6 (F)Anti-roll Bars (R) 4

-CAMBER ANGLE (-)

. 0,0 (front) / (rear) 0,4

-TOE ANGLE

. -0,09 (front) / (rear) -0,10

-TRANSMISSION (fully customizable dog-clutch ...)

.Max . Speed (Auto Set) 360 Km /h

.1ª2,675

.2ª1,800

.3ª1,456

.4ª1,192

.5ª0,961

.6ª0,773

-Final Gear = 3,550

-DIFFERENTIAL GEAR (FULLY CUSTOMIZABLE MECHANICAL .../triple-plate clutch kit/carbone d.shaft)

.00 / 10

.00 / 12

.00 / 13

-POWER LIMITER

.95.0 %

-Downforce

.0 )F) / (R) 10

. AERO PARTS
aero kits (Type C)
Flat Floors (Type A)
Custon Rear Wing (wing mount=standard A/wing=large A/winglets= large A/HEIGHT-1 / WIDTH +23

wheels inch Up:1 (rays 57 extre...)

. POWER
Engine Tuning (stage 2)
Supercharger

. BODY
WEIGHT REDUTION (STAGE 3)
BALLAST WEIGHT 40 KG
BALLAST POSITION -50 KG


.
friends my computer crashed.
I'm posting this provisional tuned to, because I'm using a pc from a friend tomorrow puts some values tuned to,👍

 

[Otaliema]

=can count on me, I have a good tuned to,👍

Sounds like a plan I was reading over the tune and I was like I look forward to the real tune once you get it posted. I'll link it in the tuners post and get the sheet updated.

 

[Lionheart2113]

Right, here we go, it's not going to get better than this for me. Well, it could but it's doing my head in...


FITT Viper Challenge
Car: SRT Viper GTS '13
Track: Trial Mountain

Driving Options
Driving Line: OFF
Blind Spot Indicator: OFF
Active Steering: OFF
Traction Control: 0
Active Stability Management (ASM): OFF
Anti-Lock Brake System (ABS): 1
Skid Recovery Force (SRF): OFF
Controller Sensitivity: 5

DS3 (dpads)
"X" throttle
Square brake
Automatic Transmission
You guys know the story!

And no hot laps would be complete at Trial Mountain without a pic with the wheels off the ground!

My best is 1:23.763. I'm hoping for testers to be faster!

And will someone let me know if these 🤬 pictures are upside down....again!

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

FITT Viper Strike Tuning Challenge
Viper GTS '13
Lightning Blue Metallic
Ray's 57Xtreme inch up 1 (GT Chrome 009-N)
Aero Type C, Flat Floor, Other Part B
Custom Wing: Mount F, Wing C, Winglet C, Height +0, Width +0
PP:630 // HP: 750
WEIGHT: 1300kg // WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION: 50:50
TIRE(S): Sport Soft
OIL CHANGE - No

SUSPENSION: Full Custom // BRAKES: Racing
RIDE HEIGHT - 95 / 95
SPRINGS - 10.75 / 11.75
COMP - 5 / 7
EXT - 7 / 6
ARB - 3 / 4
CAMBER - 1.4 / 0.7
TOE - -0.18 / 0.02
BRAKES - 6 / 7

TRANS: Full Custom (install all power upgrades first!)
FINAL TO - 5.000 // TOP SPEED TO - 149
1ST - 2.685
2ND - 1.900
3RD - 1.460
4TH - 1.185
5TH - 0.995
6TH - 0.855
FINAL - 3.600

LSD: Full Custom
INITIAL - 8
ACCEL - 14
DECEL - 16

CLUTCH TYPE: Triple-Plate
CARBON SHAFT: Yes


POWER PARTS:
ENGINE TUNING - Stage 1
COMPUTER - no
EXHAUST - Racing
MANIFOLD - Isometric
CATALYTIC CONVERTER - Sports
INTAKE TUNING - no
SUPERCHARGER/TURBO - no
POWER LIMITER - 97.1%

WEIGHT REDUCTION - Stage 3
CARBON HOOD - Yes
WINDOW WEIGHT - Yes

BALLAST - 55KG @ 0
DOWNFORCE - 10

NOTE: This tune does not like too much second gear, try not to use as third gear will do you just fine.
Fastest lap in tuning was 1:25.357, only used 2nd gear once. If you need to use 2nd to go faster, try short shifting into 3rd out of slow corners to tame wheel spin.

 

[Otaliema]

@Lionheart2113 @Bowtie-muscle tunes linked in post. Nice pix btw love the hop shots.

 

[krenkme]

Drymarchon Couperi
Based on the Viper GTS '13

750bhp
600pp
weight 1300 Kg

parts

NO Oil Change
Aero Kit type A
Rear Wing Custom Wing Type A
Paint - Matte dark green
1 inch up RAYS VR.G2 wheels painted black
Sport Soft Tires
Hight Adjustable/Fully Adjustable Suspension
Racing Brakes
Fully Custom Transmission
Fully Custom Mechanical LSD
Triple Plate Clutch
Carbon Shaft
Stage 2 Engine
Catalytic Converter: Sports
Stage 3 weight Reduction
Carbon Hood (Body Color)
Window Weight Reduction


ABS = 1
everything else off

Tune

Ride Hight - Front: 95 Rear: 90
Spring Rate- Front: 8.30 Rear: 8.00
Compression- Front: 2 Rear: 2
Extension- Front: 4 Rear: 4
Anti-roll Bars- Front: 2 Rear: 1
Camber- Front: 1.0 Rear: 1.5
Toe Angle- Front: -0.15 Rear: 0.20
Brakes- Front: 7 Rear: 5

Gearing
Final Gear - 5.000
Top Speed - 155
1st - 2.380
2nd - 1.750
3rd - 1.400
4th - 1.170
5th - 0.960
6th - 0.810
Final - 3.950


LSD - 12/10/15

Power Limiter - 99.4%
Downforce - 20
Weight Adjustment - 55@ 0

TUNER NOTES -
Made for the FITT Viper callange. Won't be the fastest, but what car that I tune is? Should be fun though

​

 

[Bowtie-muscle]

Drymarchon Couperi
Based on the Viper GTS '13


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446bhp
500pp
weight 1516 Kg

parts

NO Oil Change
Aero Kit type A
Rear Wing Custom Wing Type A
Paint - Matte dark green
RAYS VR.G2 wheels painted black
Sport Soft Tires
Hight Adjustable/Fully Adjustable Suspension
Racing Brakes
Fully Custom Transmission
Fully Custom Mechanical LSD
Triple Plate Clutch
Carbon Shaft
Stage 2 Engine
Catalytic Converter: Sports
Stage 3 weight Reduction
Carbon Hood (Body Color)
Window Weight Reduction


ABS = 1
everything else off

Tune

Ride Hight - Front: 95 Rear: 90
Spring Rate- Front: 8.30 Rear: 8.00
Compression- Front: 2 Rear: 2
Extension- Front: 4 Rear: 4
Anti-roll Bars- Front: 2 Rear: 1
Camber- Front: 1.0 Rear: 1.5
Toe Angle- Front: -0.15 Rear: 0.20
Brakes- Front: 7 Rear: 5

Gearing
Final Gear - 5.000
Top Speed - 155
1st - 2.380
2nd - 1.750
3rd - 1.400
4th - 1.170
5th - 0.960
6th - 0.810
Final - 3.950


LSD - 12/10/15

Power Limiter - 99.4%
Downforce - 20
Weight Adjustment - 55@ 0

TUNER NOTES -
Made for the FITT Viper callange. Won't be the fastest, but what car that I tune is? Should be fun though

​

You short changed yourself if only 500pp, hurry up and read the OP!

 

[Otaliema]

Drymarchon Couperi
Based on the Viper GTS '13


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446bhp
500pp
weight 1516 Kg

parts

NO Oil Change
Aero Kit type A
Rear Wing Custom Wing Type A
Paint - Matte dark green
RAYS VR.G2 wheels painted black
Sport Soft Tires
Hight Adjustable/Fully Adjustable Suspension
Racing Brakes
Fully Custom Transmission
Fully Custom Mechanical LSD
Triple Plate Clutch
Carbon Shaft
Stage 2 Engine
Catalytic Converter: Sports
Stage 3 weight Reduction
Carbon Hood (Body Color)
Window Weight Reduction


ABS = 1
everything else off

Tune

Ride Hight - Front: 95 Rear: 90
Spring Rate- Front: 8.30 Rear: 8.00
Compression- Front: 2 Rear: 2
Extension- Front: 4 Rear: 4
Anti-roll Bars- Front: 2 Rear: 1
Camber- Front: 1.0 Rear: 1.5
Toe Angle- Front: -0.15 Rear: 0.20
Brakes- Front: 7 Rear: 5

Gearing
Final Gear - 5.000
Top Speed - 155
1st - 2.380
2nd - 1.750
3rd - 1.400
4th - 1.170
5th - 0.960
6th - 0.810
Final - 3.950


LSD - 12/10/15

Power Limiter - 99.4%
Downforce - 20
Weight Adjustment - 55@ 0

TUNER NOTES -
Made for the FITT Viper callange. Won't be the fastest, but what car that I tune is? Should be fun though

​

Ya sure you want to put a car out 300 hp down from cap? I know it's replica but that would pretty much put in a last place. Just checking you still have till Monday to update it if you want.

Anycase tuner post updated with the link

 

[krenkme]

Oops! More worried about my photos (Been out of commishon for a while). Fixed

Oh and no replicas for me. I make my own stupid mistakes

 

[Lionheart2113]

Drymarchon Couperi
Based on the Viper GTS '13


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750bhp
600pp
weight 1300 Kg

parts

NO Oil Change
Aero Kit type A
Rear Wing Custom Wing Type A
Paint - Matte dark green
RAYS VR.G2 wheels painted black
Sport Soft Tires
Hight Adjustable/Fully Adjustable Suspension
Racing Brakes
Fully Custom Transmission
Fully Custom Mechanical LSD
Triple Plate Clutch
Carbon Shaft
Stage 2 Engine
Catalytic Converter: Sports
Stage 3 weight Reduction
Carbon Hood (Body Color)
Window Weight Reduction


ABS = 1
everything else off

Tune

Ride Hight - Front: 95 Rear: 90
Spring Rate- Front: 8.30 Rear: 8.00
Compression- Front: 2 Rear: 2
Extension- Front: 4 Rear: 4
Anti-roll Bars- Front: 2 Rear: 1
Camber- Front: 1.0 Rear: 1.5
Toe Angle- Front: -0.15 Rear: 0.20
Brakes- Front: 7 Rear: 5

Gearing
Final Gear - 5.000
Top Speed - 155
1st - 2.380
2nd - 1.750
3rd - 1.400
4th - 1.170
5th - 0.960
6th - 0.810
Final - 3.950


LSD - 12/10/15

Power Limiter - 99.4%
Downforce - 20
Weight Adjustment - 55@ 0

TUNER NOTES -
Made for the FITT Viper callange. Won't be the fastest, but what car that I tune is? Should be fun though

​

Looks much better sir! Was wondering about the weights you had listed before the modify.👍

 

[Otaliema]

I hear ya. ok just checking, cause that would have be a very stable drive on SS tires proly would have gotten DC podium

 

[Lionheart2113]

This is for those who want to see how bad I race with a ghost. I really need more practice to teach myself that it's not real, I won't crash into it. And yes, there are plenty of oopsies! Sorry about the noise, I never realized how loud the clicks on the controller were. Now I know why my wife can't stand me playing it when she's around.

Be nice, this is my very first recording and post on youtube!

 

[Ronald6]

@Lionheart2113 Have you tried other driving views? The "behind the car" view is horrible for me, my best and most consistent is "bumper cam."

 

[Lionheart2113]

@Lionheart2113 Have you tried other driving views? The "behind the car" view is horrible for me, my best and most consistent is "bumper cam."

I've tried here and there, but it comes back from NASCAR games on the PS2. I used to drive in car, but with the "spotter" in the NASCAR game being about a second behind in saying "inside" I was already wrecking, so I switched. Plus it's a huge help with being able to see things around the car (other drivers) and what the car is doing. Since I can't physically be in the seat and feel what the car is doing it's stuck with me. Creature of habit. I know, childish and stupid...right?

 

[iainoflo85]

I've tried here and there, but it comes back from NASCAR games on the PS2. I used to drive in car, but with the "spotter" in the NASCAR game being about a second behind in saying "inside" I was already wrecking, so I switched. Plus it's a huge help with being able to see things around the car (other drivers) and what the car is doing. Since I can't physically be in the seat and feel what the car is doing it's stuck with me. Creature of habit. I know, childish and stupid...right?

I used the rear view when I used the DS3, since I got my wheel though I use bumper cam - rear view just feels alien to me now.

 

[Lionheart2113]

I used the rear view when I used the DS3, since I got my wheel though I use bumper cam - rear view just feels alien to me now.

I really need to get the wheel for a better experience from the game. I've been told the difference is night and day, plus I guess the blind spot indicator might help. Don't know of anyone who uses it though.

 

[Otaliema]

I use bumper cam + blind spot, I feel that aid is like having a spotter so it's not a cheat
I can't see the nose of the car in rear view so I can't tell when to dive in.
Have you tried roof cam?
And your ghost problem? solve it, make your ghost a line, it's in quick options in the on track pause menu. than it's just like having your friends on the track in a seasonal. You can't see what you did with the car for the hot lap but you get the line, so you can follow that