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FITT Hot Version Drivetrain Reviews
**For the record, I have never claimed to be the fastest driver, so if my times are slower than yours, know that I gave it my best and got the most out of every tune (except 2
)
All cars were given a minimum of 10 laps, with extra for driver error.
Tested with DS3, m/t, ABS 1 unless otherwise noted.
Tested by drivetrain, one track at a time, order reversed for the second track. First on track 1 was last on track 2. Last on track 1, first on track 2.
Sprinter Trueno GT-Apex(AE86):
@sinof1337 - DC 7.0
Deep Forest - 1:36.179
Eiger - 1:21.475
Overall a really nice tune, stable and easy to drive with some mild (mostly) exit oversteer. However, to me the car felt heavy and under powered even though it had the most HP. The extra weight did not help in low speed corners or with acceleration out. I do look forward to driving/testing your tunes in the future.
@787bcgr - DC 8.0 (ABS 0)
Deep Forest - 1:35.673
Eiger - 1:21.035
Fast right from the start, I did start testing early so originally tested with ABS 1 and had a total time of 2:57.669. With ABS 0, I managed to drop to 2:56.708!
! and I cannot drive with ABS 0. Had to learn to adjust turn 1 at both tracks, but when I did mid-corner speed was lower (@DF) which allowed me to get back on the throttle and with less exit oversteer. No real unexpected other handling issues with this tune at all. Getting me to drive ABS 0 and not throw the controller thru my TV, gets you extra DC points. Awesome Job. (P.S. - you did disappoint me with your photo this time though
)
@nijalninja - DC 7.5
Deep Forest - 1:35.936
Eiger - 1:20.271
Soft suspension sounded like a good idea on these two tracks, but a little to soft. Made the first section of Eiger difficult. Had to be on the right line and watch throttle input, too soon and it would push wide, too late and exit oversteer. Still, a really good tune, well done.
Civic SiR II (EG):
@ImToLegitToQuit - DC 8.0
Eiger - 1:20.752
Deep Forest - 1:35.567
Suffered from FWD syndrome, low speed corner and exit understeer. I did call this tune "The Wild Thing" as it was better at DF, you could really use the looseness of the rear to your advantage more. Overall I really like this tune, fast and fun for a FWD, having to run Eiger against rear drive cars did not help.
Great Job!
@krenkme - DC 8.0
Eiger - 1:20.685
Deep Forest - 1:35.675
If Legit's was wild, this one was just crazy. There was screaming at the TV but not from this tune
The front end was toooo soft, and the rear could really loosen up, but in a good way. Did find the right rear wheel at Eiger actually got bluer/cooler, but it lacked the speed of the RWD. Not at all a Clueless effort.
@randyrockstiff - 7.0
Eiger - 1:21.345
Deep Forest - 1:35.895
Too stiff with the suspension, springs and dampers. Really gave this car more understeer, especially the first section of Eiger. Plus side - very comfortable, easy to drive and consistant. The braking distance also seemed longer than the others. Good job, look forward to seeing more from you in the future.
@Ridox2JZGTE - DC 7.0 (ABS 0)
Eiger - 1:21.702
Deep Forest - 1:37.285
As a Replica I treat this car differently, after all, you did bring a knife to a gun fight. Not really fair asking me to drive with ABS 0, and starting at Eiger? With real world suspension there was typical FF understeer but what I felt really hurt this car was the trans selection. Really nice ride otherwise and quite enjoyable. Decided after 4or5 laps that I had to retest this with ABS 1 and a 6spd (fixed)
**BONUS ONLY**
Eiger - (W/ 6spd fixed/ABS1) 1:20.957
Deep Forest - (w/ 6spd/ABS1) - 1:36.229
More mid corner and exit oversteer with the 6spd because you are carrying more speed, better launch and acceleration more than made up for it. Times were more in line with the others, bringing a gun (albeit only a Saturday Night Special) to the gun fight. Did enjoy this more with ABS and the 6spd, but not bad as posted either.
GTO SR:
@DolHaus - DC 10 **Also known as "The Cheater"
Deep Forest - 1:35.401
Eiger - 1:19.719
No way in the world any car this heavy should go this fast. I took your car out first, felt it to be real sluggish and that it needed a trans upgrade. Ran a 1:35.777. After testing the other 2 GTOs, I double checked your car (even though it was faster) and realized I never upgraded your trans. Installed the proper 6spd and lowered the time almost 4 tenths. At Eiger, your car was last up and on lap 1 was faster than everyone else. By lap 3, your tune was laughing at me and saying "Come on, that all you got? Push Harder!" So I did. This tune is not my style, I like more grip and less slip, but I had a big grin on my face and enjoyed every minute of it. The laps just flew by so fast. This tune made me drive totally different and I loved it. Might have made me a better tester too! However, I did feel that it gave a disadvantage to everyone before you and an advantage to everyone after, so in the interest of fairness I revisited every previously tested tune here. Thanks for the truly Awesome tune, and the extra work
. At this point, your tune was up by 1 second at Eiger, leading me to believe that you created a ridiculously fast tune and decided to build this challenge around it. It may not have been my style or the best tune I have ever driven, but it is definately in the top 5 all time on fun. And you had me change my driving style!!! For that you get a DC of 10.
@shaunm80 - DC 9.0
Deep Forest - 1:36.086
Eiger - 1.20.329
Now this tune is more my style, plenty of grip with just a little slip....on Comfort Mediums! Did fail you however at Deep Forest as I did not get everything I could. Another 3-4 tenths lower should have been the score but I kept messing up trying to get more. Did get all I could at Eiger. Just a tick less rear grip would have been nice. Unfortunately, turning this heavy weight in slow corners gave it a disadvantage to all the other WILD tunes. My only complaint would be the color choice. Outstanding tune in my book, and complete joy to drive. 👍 👍
@xande1959 - DC 8.5
Deep Forest - 1.36.235
Eiger - 1:20.607
This was the mirror tune to Shaun's above, with more understeer. More noticeable at Eiger. The brakes were solid, but again, turning a heavy weight at Eiger was harder than the much wilder and lighter competition. At least it was blue!
MR2 1600G:
*NOTE - If I Never drive this car again in GT6, it will be too soon!*
@Ronald6 - DC 8.5
Eiger - 1:20.281
Deep Forest - 1:35.433
NOT A "MARY POPPINS" tune, more like "Chitty chitty Bang Bang". This thing was wild and hard to control. You said to be smooth, hard to do with the BLOR, and even worse, letting off the throttle could send you spinning. Add in exit understeer and it was totally frustrating, but not as much as your twin brother (more on him later). Small margin of error kept me on my toes, recovery was extremely difficult. When I did get it smooth and right, it was actually pretty quick and enjoyable.....
it just was not often. Kudos my friend, sure a wheel user would find it easier.
@praiano63 - DC 9.0
Eiger - 1.19.955
Deep Forest - 1.35.136
Honestly, this is the first time I have ever driven one of your tunes. I have looked at them, but never built and drove any. Was not dissappointed. With Rigidity Improvement, I did find some mid-corner understeer and exit oversteer, but very controllable and fast. Without, less understeer and exit oversteer but much less stable thru the fast section of Eiger. My best lap without was 1:19.950, .005 faster. I did test it at DF without and was .134 slower. This is why, for me, I felt it made little difference. Really great, fast tune Sir!
@Lionheart2113 - DC 9.5
Eiger - 1.19.523
Deep Forest - 1.35.306
Eiger - Loved it! Lap 3 set the fastest lap, LAP 3! Spent the rest of the time trying to beat it but could only manage to keep within 1 tenth.
Deep Forest - Hated it! Spoonful of sugar? More like a quart of whiskey and a bottle of aspirin....Not really, but it was extremely frustrating. And yes, plenty of screaming, if not for the wife being home I may have 1 less controller and no HD TV. The problem was, the best lap at Eiger had exit understeer at the right hander before the tunnel and was still the fastest. At DF, it was fastest everywhere, just not the same lap. The rear could have a mind of it's own and ruin a good lap. I would be up 7 tenths and lose it on the last turn(even managed an unwanted trip down pit road, don't ask). Or I would mess up early, and the car was so fast and good that it was only 1 tenth off at the line. Fabulous tune once I put it all together with the lowest combined time.
Keep it orange my friend, that color fits you and is working for you!
@Gino Caberlin - DC 7.5
Eiger - 1:20.382
Deep Forest - 1:35.460
Nice tune, very easy to drive and consistent, smooth on exit. But felt under powered and slow with the choice of trans. I tested with the 6spd everyone else used, but you may want to stop reading here. It gave the car some exit oversteer but was much much quicker. The times - Eiger 1:19.977 after 5 laps.
Deep Forest after only 4 laps - 1:35.108, 2 slow laps and another of 1:35.190 meaning it would have been the fastest. Also would have taken .750 (roughly) off your total time and put you in contention.
Really really good tune, very much to my liking with the 6spd.
@brian wolf - DC 7.5
Eiger - 1:20.539
Deep Forest - 1:36.195
It's New Sherwood Toning at Deep Forest! Not a lumber jack at Sherwood Forest!! This tune looked for every tree and was just as frustrating as it's Twin Brother. This is the other tune I did not get all out of at Eiger as it was just too wild for me. However, at Deep Forest it felt so good I thought I had changed something. Before I finished the first lap I had to quit and check, nope, everything is correct. So I restarted and thought it was going to be better. Foolish mortal as I am, found out it was because it was just slow. When I tried to push it for more, it fought back. I was determined to get the best out of it here and it was anything but easy. Just not an easy drive for me, sorry. I did like it more at DF though and kinda enjoyed it. Maybe if Lionheart painted if for you it might be quicker
@Otaliema - DC 9.0
Eiger - 1:19.887
Deep Forest - 1:35.114
Really fun tune once I got the hang of it, struggle to be consistant though and yet another trip down Pit Road on DF
. Keeping it on the line was key to going fast but was hard for me to do. I do believe it would have been close to Lionheart if I ran another ten laps,.....maybe......it had the feel of somewhere around a 1.34.7 or 8, but may need an alien to get it for you.
Lovely tune and awesome color choice. Great Job:tup:
If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
**For the record, I have never claimed to be the fastest driver, so if my times are slower than yours, know that I gave it my best and got the most out of every tune (except 2
)All cars were given a minimum of 10 laps, with extra for driver error.
Tested with DS3, m/t, ABS 1 unless otherwise noted.
Tested by drivetrain, one track at a time, order reversed for the second track. First on track 1 was last on track 2. Last on track 1, first on track 2.
Sprinter Trueno GT-Apex(AE86):
@sinof1337 - DC 7.0
Deep Forest - 1:36.179
Eiger - 1:21.475
Overall a really nice tune, stable and easy to drive with some mild (mostly) exit oversteer. However, to me the car felt heavy and under powered even though it had the most HP. The extra weight did not help in low speed corners or with acceleration out. I do look forward to driving/testing your tunes in the future.
@787bcgr - DC 8.0 (ABS 0)
Deep Forest - 1:35.673
Eiger - 1:21.035
Fast right from the start, I did start testing early so originally tested with ABS 1 and had a total time of 2:57.669. With ABS 0, I managed to drop to 2:56.708!
! and I cannot drive with ABS 0. Had to learn to adjust turn 1 at both tracks, but when I did mid-corner speed was lower (@DF) which allowed me to get back on the throttle and with less exit oversteer. No real unexpected other handling issues with this tune at all. Getting me to drive ABS 0 and not throw the controller thru my TV, gets you extra DC points. Awesome Job. (P.S. - you did disappoint me with your photo this time though)@nijalninja - DC 7.5
Deep Forest - 1:35.936
Eiger - 1:20.271
Soft suspension sounded like a good idea on these two tracks, but a little to soft. Made the first section of Eiger difficult. Had to be on the right line and watch throttle input, too soon and it would push wide, too late and exit oversteer. Still, a really good tune, well done.
Civic SiR II (EG):
@ImToLegitToQuit - DC 8.0
Eiger - 1:20.752
Deep Forest - 1:35.567
Suffered from FWD syndrome, low speed corner and exit understeer. I did call this tune "The Wild Thing" as it was better at DF, you could really use the looseness of the rear to your advantage more. Overall I really like this tune, fast and fun for a FWD, having to run Eiger against rear drive cars did not help.
Great Job!
@krenkme - DC 8.0
Eiger - 1:20.685
Deep Forest - 1:35.675
If Legit's was wild, this one was just crazy. There was screaming at the TV but not from this tune
The front end was toooo soft, and the rear could really loosen up, but in a good way. Did find the right rear wheel at Eiger actually got bluer/cooler, but it lacked the speed of the RWD. Not at all a Clueless effort.
@randyrockstiff - 7.0
Eiger - 1:21.345
Deep Forest - 1:35.895
Too stiff with the suspension, springs and dampers. Really gave this car more understeer, especially the first section of Eiger. Plus side - very comfortable, easy to drive and consistant. The braking distance also seemed longer than the others. Good job, look forward to seeing more from you in the future.
@Ridox2JZGTE - DC 7.0 (ABS 0)
Eiger - 1:21.702
Deep Forest - 1:37.285
As a Replica I treat this car differently, after all, you did bring a knife to a gun fight. Not really fair asking me to drive with ABS 0, and starting at Eiger? With real world suspension there was typical FF understeer but what I felt really hurt this car was the trans selection. Really nice ride otherwise and quite enjoyable. Decided after 4or5 laps that I had to retest this with ABS 1 and a 6spd (fixed)
**BONUS ONLY**
Eiger - (W/ 6spd fixed/ABS1) 1:20.957
Deep Forest - (w/ 6spd/ABS1) - 1:36.229
More mid corner and exit oversteer with the 6spd because you are carrying more speed, better launch and acceleration more than made up for it. Times were more in line with the others, bringing a gun (albeit only a Saturday Night Special) to the gun fight. Did enjoy this more with ABS and the 6spd, but not bad as posted either.
GTO SR:
@DolHaus - DC 10 **Also known as "The Cheater"
Deep Forest - 1:35.401
Eiger - 1:19.719
No way in the world any car this heavy should go this fast. I took your car out first, felt it to be real sluggish and that it needed a trans upgrade. Ran a 1:35.777. After testing the other 2 GTOs, I double checked your car (even though it was faster) and realized I never upgraded your trans. Installed the proper 6spd and lowered the time almost 4 tenths. At Eiger, your car was last up and on lap 1 was faster than everyone else. By lap 3, your tune was laughing at me and saying "Come on, that all you got? Push Harder!" So I did. This tune is not my style, I like more grip and less slip, but I had a big grin on my face and enjoyed every minute of it. The laps just flew by so fast. This tune made me drive totally different and I loved it. Might have made me a better tester too! However, I did feel that it gave a disadvantage to everyone before you and an advantage to everyone after, so in the interest of fairness I revisited every previously tested tune here. Thanks for the truly Awesome tune, and the extra work
. At this point, your tune was up by 1 second at Eiger, leading me to believe that you created a ridiculously fast tune and decided to build this challenge around it. It may not have been my style or the best tune I have ever driven, but it is definately in the top 5 all time on fun. And you had me change my driving style!!! For that you get a DC of 10.@shaunm80 - DC 9.0
Deep Forest - 1:36.086
Eiger - 1.20.329
Now this tune is more my style, plenty of grip with just a little slip....on Comfort Mediums! Did fail you however at Deep Forest as I did not get everything I could. Another 3-4 tenths lower should have been the score but I kept messing up trying to get more. Did get all I could at Eiger. Just a tick less rear grip would have been nice. Unfortunately, turning this heavy weight in slow corners gave it a disadvantage to all the other WILD tunes. My only complaint would be the color choice. Outstanding tune in my book, and complete joy to drive. 👍 👍
@xande1959 - DC 8.5
Deep Forest - 1.36.235
Eiger - 1:20.607
This was the mirror tune to Shaun's above, with more understeer. More noticeable at Eiger. The brakes were solid, but again, turning a heavy weight at Eiger was harder than the much wilder and lighter competition. At least it was blue!
MR2 1600G:
*NOTE - If I Never drive this car again in GT6, it will be too soon!*
@Ronald6 - DC 8.5
Eiger - 1:20.281
Deep Forest - 1:35.433
NOT A "MARY POPPINS" tune, more like "Chitty chitty Bang Bang". This thing was wild and hard to control. You said to be smooth, hard to do with the BLOR, and even worse, letting off the throttle could send you spinning. Add in exit understeer and it was totally frustrating, but not as much as your twin brother (more on him later). Small margin of error kept me on my toes, recovery was extremely difficult. When I did get it smooth and right, it was actually pretty quick and enjoyable.....
it just was not often. Kudos my friend, sure a wheel user would find it easier.
@praiano63 - DC 9.0
Eiger - 1.19.955
Deep Forest - 1.35.136
Honestly, this is the first time I have ever driven one of your tunes. I have looked at them, but never built and drove any. Was not dissappointed. With Rigidity Improvement, I did find some mid-corner understeer and exit oversteer, but very controllable and fast. Without, less understeer and exit oversteer but much less stable thru the fast section of Eiger. My best lap without was 1:19.950, .005 faster. I did test it at DF without and was .134 slower. This is why, for me, I felt it made little difference. Really great, fast tune Sir!
@Lionheart2113 - DC 9.5
Eiger - 1.19.523
Deep Forest - 1.35.306
Eiger - Loved it! Lap 3 set the fastest lap, LAP 3! Spent the rest of the time trying to beat it but could only manage to keep within 1 tenth.
Deep Forest - Hated it! Spoonful of sugar? More like a quart of whiskey and a bottle of aspirin....Not really, but it was extremely frustrating. And yes, plenty of screaming, if not for the wife being home I may have 1 less controller and no HD TV. The problem was, the best lap at Eiger had exit understeer at the right hander before the tunnel and was still the fastest. At DF, it was fastest everywhere, just not the same lap. The rear could have a mind of it's own and ruin a good lap. I would be up 7 tenths and lose it on the last turn(even managed an unwanted trip down pit road, don't ask). Or I would mess up early, and the car was so fast and good that it was only 1 tenth off at the line. Fabulous tune once I put it all together with the lowest combined time.
Keep it orange my friend, that color fits you and is working for you!
@Gino Caberlin - DC 7.5
Eiger - 1:20.382
Deep Forest - 1:35.460
Nice tune, very easy to drive and consistent, smooth on exit. But felt under powered and slow with the choice of trans. I tested with the 6spd everyone else used, but you may want to stop reading here. It gave the car some exit oversteer but was much much quicker. The times - Eiger 1:19.977 after 5 laps.
Deep Forest after only 4 laps - 1:35.108, 2 slow laps and another of 1:35.190 meaning it would have been the fastest. Also would have taken .750 (roughly) off your total time and put you in contention.
Really really good tune, very much to my liking with the 6spd.
@brian wolf - DC 7.5
Eiger - 1:20.539
Deep Forest - 1:36.195
It's New Sherwood Toning at Deep Forest! Not a lumber jack at Sherwood Forest!! This tune looked for every tree and was just as frustrating as it's Twin Brother. This is the other tune I did not get all out of at Eiger as it was just too wild for me. However, at Deep Forest it felt so good I thought I had changed something. Before I finished the first lap I had to quit and check, nope, everything is correct. So I restarted and thought it was going to be better. Foolish mortal as I am, found out it was because it was just slow. When I tried to push it for more, it fought back. I was determined to get the best out of it here and it was anything but easy. Just not an easy drive for me, sorry. I did like it more at DF though and kinda enjoyed it. Maybe if Lionheart painted if for you it might be quicker
@Otaliema - DC 9.0
Eiger - 1:19.887
Deep Forest - 1:35.114
Really fun tune once I got the hang of it, struggle to be consistant though and yet another trip down Pit Road on DF
. Keeping it on the line was key to going fast but was hard for me to do. I do believe it would have been close to Lionheart if I ran another ten laps,.....maybe......it had the feel of somewhere around a 1.34.7 or 8, but may need an alien to get it for you. Lovely tune and awesome color choice. Great Job:tup:If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
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But I appreciate it. I am looking forward to taking it back out with 
