Formula 1 crypto.com (ugh, really?) Miami Grand Prix 2022Formula 1

[PeterJB]

Fun fact: Bottas has now overtaken Nico Rosberg and made the top 10 all-time career points adjusted for the modern points system, which feels wrong on so many levels.

 

[Northstar]

Awful idea. I would like it if they brought back refueling. The cars could be lighter, smaller, faster and alternate strategies would actually make sense. I want to see overtaking on track not in the pits.

No, I've been watching since Michael Schumacher was leading parades for like 6 years straight.

So... much... contradiction.

 

[Suzuki-Cara]

a sea of celebrities who couldn't care less about F1 and have nothing of value to add but of course get the kind of access and experience any F1 fan would dream of;

To be fair, that was the entire reason I checked out the Miami race after the cringe that was COTA last year lmfao.

 

[Veinz]

Well that was pretty boring, good thing they’re going to Spain and Monaco next…

 

[NickGuy]

i like it about as much as the cowboy hat and sombrero...which is, a fair amount. its cheesy but it fits

 

[-Fred-]

Just give up on Mclaren, bro. They have an awful car.

 

[Sum1s2pid]

Just give up on Mclaren, bro. They have an awful car.

 

[Magog]

So... much... contradiction.

Unrelated. The cars during the MS Era weren't doing parades because of refueling. It was because they relied too much on front wing downforce, Ferrari was out spending the competition, MS was an incredible driver and their car designer might be the best there ever was.

 

[Terronium-12]

Unrelated. The cars during the MS Era weren't doing parades because of refueling. It was because they relied too much on front wing downforce, Ferrari was out spending the competition, MS was an incredible driver and their car designer might be the best there ever was.

Except that it's absolutely related.

You don't like when overtaking is done while in the pitlane — fine, fair enough. You then go on to say that you want refueling to return which would all but guarantee that very thing happens more than it's happening right now which, funny enough, refueling was banned for that exact reason.

In Schumacher's era, the greater majority of overtakes were done where? You guessed it, during pitstops because they were as long as they were.

 

[Blitz24]

First black (or African-American to use current parlance) to test an F1 car in the 80s.

I will always maintain, racing drivers are dull, with very few exceptions. Irvine was always good for a biting comment though. Ribbs did his best but sadly not a natural presenter.

I thought drivers had to keep their overalls done up at all times?

The top three are now obliged to wear their racing suits in full after getting out of the car. During the ceremony and the interview immediately after the race, "the driver may only wear their racing suit, which is fastened to the neck and not on their waist."

Unless I remember my history incorrectly, Ribbs NOT showing up for a race in 1976 gave Dale Earnhardt the opportunity to race in Winston Cup at Charlotte.

 

[Magog]

Except that it's absolutely related.

You don't like when overtaking is done while in the pitlane — fine, fair enough. You then go on to say that you want refueling to return which would all but guarantee that very thing happens more than it's happening right now which, funny enough, refueling was banned for that exact reason.

In Schumacher's era, the greater majority of overtakes were done where? You guessed it, during pitstops because they were as long as they were.

It was banned because of the fire that injured a mechanic. Overtakes were basically only possible in the pits during the MS Era so that is where you saw them. That wouldn't be the case with today's much more aerodynamically stable cars.

 

[Quakebass]

Just give up on Mclaren, bro. They have an awful car.

I mean… not really? It seems more like they struggle on hotter circuits given the brake cooling issue (and I’m anticipating Austria to go poorly for the same reason, Spain if it’s a hot weekend, and if the issue still isn’t remedied later in the season then Austin and Singapore too). Norris was right there behind the Mercedes until pitting, and got taken out not long after, and the following kerfuffle ended up benefitting other drivers more than it did Ricciardo. They were running well otherwise.

A 5-6 in Australia and 4th in the constructors is hard to do with an “awful car”. Pace on Alpine has been hard to gauge but I think they safely have a strong fight to defend that 4th place spot with Alfa, Alpine, and maybe Haas depending on Haas’s ability to keep up with development rates of the bigger teams.

I don’t know what F1 races you’ve been watching but it seems like it’s not the one the rest of us have?

 

[Terronium-12]

It was banned because of the fire that injured a mechanic. Overtakes were basically only possible in the pits during the MS Era so that is where you saw them. That wouldn't be the case with today's much more aerodynamically stable cars.

You're right and I was wrong, it was primarily banned due to safety and cost-saving measures were a secondary case.

But the overall point remains: if refueling were to return, it would guarantee more passes during pitstops than are currently taking place, especially since the cars are, by and large faster than their predecessors. Last I remember, there are only five circuits that any pre-2010 F1 cars continues to hold an outright track lap record.

 

[Magog]

I mean… not really? It seems more like they struggle on hotter circuits given the brake cooling issue (and I’m anticipating Austria to go poorly for the same reason, Spain if it’s a hot weekend, and if the issue still isn’t remedied later in the season then Austin and Singapore too). Norris was right there behind the Mercedes until pitting, and got taken out not long after, and the following kerfuffle ended up benefitting other drivers more than it did Ricciardo. They were running well otherwise.

A 5-6 in Australia and 4th in the constructors is hard to do with an “awful car”. Pace on Alpine has been hard to gauge but I think they safely have a strong fight to defend that 4th place spot with Alfa, Alpine, and maybe Haas depending on Haas’s ability to keep up with development rates of the bigger teams.

I don’t know what F1 races you’ve been watching but it seems like it’s not the one the rest of us have?

They will never win another championship unless they get rid of Ricciardo (possibly the most overrated driver in the history of F1), Norris stops making absolutely bone headed mistakes like the one he did in this race running into the side of another car when there was a massive amount of room for him to pass, they get rid of Zak Brown who is a weak an ineffective leader, and they are basically bought out by Audi. They have been an also ran since Mercades realized they could do better without them.

 

[Adamgp]

I didn't watch the race. I recorded it while doing Mother's Day stuff and watched the Darlington Nascar race instead.

Is it worth it to watch the recording, or can I just watch highlights on Youtube?

 

[Quakebass]

They will never win another championship unless they get rid of Ricciardo (possibly the most overrated driver in the history of F1), Norris stops making absolutely bone headed mistakes like the one he did in this race running into the side of another car when there was a massive amount of room for him to pass

I think Ricciardo is a solid #2 driver to assist Norris when the team can have a car that can run at the front and bid for a championship. I think on average Norris will outdo Ricciardo over the course of a season, but there’s a reason that amongst the likes of Norris, Sainz, Alonso, and Van Doorne he’s the only one to have won a race for them in the last 9 or 10 years.

Gasly had gone wide and was operating a damaged car, I hardly see how this is a majority Norris fault.

Gasly explains how Alonso F1 clash damage led to Norris collision

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get rid of Zak Brown who is a weak an ineffective leader, and they are basically bought out by Audi. They have been an also ran since Mercades realized they could do better without them.

???

Zak Brown is a major cog in what dragged Mclaren out of the Honda dark ages. He became the CEO in 2018 and barring the design missteps this year they’ve been on an upwards trajectory ever since.

 

[Magog]

It would be amazing to see Verstappen and Leclerc as teammates somehow. They are clealry the class of the field. I think only George Russell could give them a run for their money from the current crop of drivers in their current form.

 

[Grayfox]

Redbull probably should think about replacing Perez. No one expected him to beat the Godlike Verstappen but how far he was back from the Ferraris was sad.

Did you even watch the Imola GP?
Perez was 2nd for most of the race, he held off Leclerc and finished 2nd

Perez just drove poorly. His mechanical problem only lasted like 2 laps. Couldn't even make up places with fresh softer tires on a restart. Embarrassing.

He was down 30hp.
In these cars 30hp is alot.
Before the issue he was gaining on Sainz.

Just give up on Mclaren, bro. They have an awful car.

Mercedes entered the chat.

 

[NickGuy]

Fun fact: Bottas has now overtaken Nico Rosberg and made the top 10 all-time career points adjusted for the modern points system, which feels wrong on so many levels.

blame rosberg for ragewinning

 

[-Fred-]

They will never win another championship unless they get rid of Ricciardo (possibly the most overrated driver in the history of F1), Norris stops making absolutely bone headed mistakes like the one he did in this race running into the side of another car when there was a massive amount of room for him to pass, they get rid of Zak Brown who is a weak an ineffective leader, and they are basically bought out by Audi. They have been an also ran since Mercades realized they could do better without them.

Is your ass jealous of the amount of crap that comes out of your mouth?

Zak Brown and Andreas Seidl have taken that team from the darkest pit of hell and brought it back to a reasonable standard. Could they do better, yes, but they could also be Williams. You clearly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Quakebass]

Is your ass jealous of the amount of crap that comes out of your mouth?

Damn. I’ll be saving that one for later.

 

[Jimlaad43]

Awful idea. I would like it if they brought back refueling. The cars could be lighter, smaller, faster and alternate strategies would actually make sense. I want to see overtaking on track not in the pits.

Overtaking in the pits is all that happened during refuelling times. This is rose-tinted specs.

 

[Dennisch]

I didn't watch the race. I recorded it while doing Mother's Day stuff and watched the Darlington Nascar race instead.

Is it worth it to watch the recording, or can I just watch highlights on Youtube?

Watch the highlights.

 

[Magog]

Overtaking in the pits is all that happened during refuelling times. This is rose-tinted specs.

Since the 1940s the only overtakes were in the pits? Thanks for sharing that little bit of F1 history! 😉

 

[NICKname]

Since the 1940s the only overtakes were in the pits? Thanks for sharing that little bit of F1 history! 😉

Refuelling only became intentionally allowed by the regulations in 1994, which clearly was not in the 1940s. Before that it was only used as a serious strategy by a few teams in 1982 and 1983, before it got banned. Which also wasn't in the 1940s.

 

[Magog]

Refuelling only became intentionally allowed by the regulations in 1994, which clearly was not in the 1940s. Before that it was only used as a serious strategy by a few teams in 1982 and 1983, before it got banned. Which also wasn't in the 1940s.

Fairly sure it was an anything goes scenario for much of Formula 1's early life. Didn't Fangio jump into other people's cars halfway through the race a few times? 🤣

 

[Samus]

Since the 1940s the only overtakes were in the pits? Thanks for sharing that little bit of F1 history! 😉

F1 didn't start until 1950.

 

[andrea]

 

[Dotini]

F1 didn't start until 1950.

According to history, F1 was defined in 1946 and became effective in 1947. It was the World Championship which began inn 1950.

Formula One was first defined in 1946 by the Commission Sportive Internationale (CSI) of the FIA, forerunner of FISA, as the premier single-seater racing category in worldwide motorsport to become effective in 1947. This new "International Formula" was initially known variously as Formula A, Formula I, or Formula 1 with the corresponding "Voiturette" formula being titled Formula B, Formula II, or Formula 2.[2] When the 500c formula was internationally recognised as Formula 3 in 1950 it was never titled as "Formula C" so the three International Formulae were then "officially" titled Formula 1, Formula 2 and Formula 3.[3]

In the beginning, the formula was largely based on pre-World War II regulations defined by engine capacity. The regulation expected to bring a new balance between supercharged and normally aspirated cars. Non-supercharged 4.5-litre pre-war Grand Prix cars were allowed to race against the pre-war 1.5-litre supercharged 'voiturettes', while pre-war supercharged 3-litre Grand Prix cars were banned.

There is some debate as to what can be considered to be the first Formula 1 race. The first race under the new regulations was the 1946 Turin Grand Prix held on 1 September, the race being won by Achille Varzi in an Alfa Romeo 158 Alfetta - but this was before the Formula was officially in place. The next contender is the 1947 Swedish Winter Grand Prix which was won by Reg Parnell driving an ERA - but this race was run on ice and some consider that it therefore was not a "proper" race (there is also some doubt whether it was a Formula 1 race or a Formule Libre race). The third claimant is the 1947 Pau Grand Prix which was won by Nello Pagani driving a Maserati 4CL, which is irrefutable.

Championships for drivers or constructors were not introduced immediately. In the early years there were around 20 races held from late Spring to early Autumn (Fall) in Europe, although not all of these were considered significant. Most competitive cars came from Italy, particularly Alfa Romeo. Races saw pre-war heroes like Rudolf Caracciola, Manfred Von Brauchitsch and Tazio Nuvolari end their careers, while drivers like Alberto Ascari and Juan Manuel Fangio rose to the front.

 

[Pupik]

Sorry folks, but this event really wasn't that bad of a race. Sorry if Hamilton isn't up at the top and the Ferrari isn't winning every race. And I'm hardly a Verstappen fan. There was passing outside of the DRS zones and that's a decent indicator of a good track in the last 10 years. There wasn't a tremendous battle for the lead for long, but that's the sport sometimes (if not most of the time). They did a damn good job of making the tracksides look anything but dull, which impressed me. That's why Monaco is interesting to watch when the racing isn't always the best, though it is Iconic when little else in the sport stays put for long.

Ok, there were too many crowd shots and the number of celebrity shots isn't really worse than any other race. I don't like it for really anything I see in TV, though seeing the former First Lady during qualifying was totally unexpected. Yes the local overlap is a little cheesy...but what did you expect for a place that has a mere 130 years* of culture? These drivers and teams are well nigh unheard of to all but less than half of one percent of Americans. Unless something really crummy happens at a Grand Prix, this stuff does not make local or national sporting news, except on the slowest days.

They've been trying to crack the US market for ages, but as someone following it for 35 years, this how they make it semi-relatable. Having "fan experiences", pools, dry-docked yachts and other stuff for the wealthy South Floridian to contract in out are the kind of fare we're used to here. They're trying to tap into their wallets, that's what it is. This isn't the sport it was 50-60 years ago...once the sponsorship had a grip on the vehicular side of things in 1968, it was Game Over for head-to-head combat by gentlemanly racing.

In 1989, a mere 10,000 people showed up to Phoenix for a meeting that had Prost, Senna, Mansell, and Piquet go at it, along with other F1 titans of the times. Can you really blame the organizers for trying a lot harder to get the butts in the seats and Rolexes in the paddock (while they last, maybe only the Preferred Timepiece of F1 will be allowed)?

The trackside stuff will be packed away in the next two weeks and just the Turnpike ramps and (Whatever They Call It This Year) Stadium will remain. They'll build it all back next year, unless Miami invades Cuba. The fake stuff will be the butt of jokes** until the next thing overtakes it for overall silliness or pointlessness. I'm sure the next Rich Energy was swimming around in the water and infiltrating a corner of the paddock and whispering in the ears of whoever needs an infusion of funds. Someone bought an NFT. A lot of people got sunburnt. They sold a lot of merch and fans just want to say they were there. No different than any other sporting event.


* well, ignoring native Seminole culture, though copying that would be bad form, though they do own the Hard Rock brand

** Monaco had a fake backdrop at Portier in 2018, just ask Pascal Whalrein and Jensen Button.