Formula 1 Heineken Grande Prêmio De São Paulo 2022Formula 1

[Jubby]

Russell is not driving away there

I think he's managing, he probably has enough in hand.

Edit: The radio message going longer reveals that.

 

[Jimlaad43]

Sainz doing some great moves in the middle sector

 

[Samus]

Lets see if Gasly will complain about the recovery car on track.

How many more times does it have to be said the issue was not the recovery truck being there at all, it was the unlit recovery truck on a soaking wet track with poor visibility before all cars were behind the SC.

 

[Sum1s2pid]

Sainz with the tidy overtakes. Nice. 😮

 

[Samus]

As for VER/HAM, that was a classic case of driving into a gap that was always going to close IMO, should have backed out of it. I'd have put it down to a racing incident though personally, given that HAM knew he was there and could have given space even if he didn't need to.

 

[Veinz]

I like it better without the wheel cover

 

[McLaren]

It’s hard to see but the exposed BBS wheel does look good in motion on Lewis’ car.

 

[Jubby]

As for VER/HAM, that was a classic case of driving into a gap that was always going to close IMO, should have backed out of it. I'd have put it down to a racing incident though personally, given that HAM knew he was there and could have given space even if he didn't need to.

That's a fair understanding, but I don't like that the FIA is allowing people to close the door on cars and practically encouraging collisions. It's seriously dangerous (or can be). In that scenario, all both need to do is give space and there is no problem.

 

[Veinz]

To me neither driver should be penalized when it's pretty much a 50/50 incident.

 

[Bosso]

That's a fair understanding, but I don't like that the FIA is allowing people to close the door on cars and practically encouraging collisions. It's seriously dangerous (or can be). In that scenario, all both need to do is give space and there is no problem.

Or maybe drivers should learn when to back out of doors closing? Current new gen of drivers don't seem to have that ability.

 

[Grayfox]

It’s hard to see but the exposed BBS wheel does look good in motion on Lewis’ car.

Dont know why BBS use a decent looking wheel knowing they're covered by wheel covers.

 

[PaMu1337]

First time I ever see a team being under investigation rather than a driver

 

[GingerBredMan]

Show me an incident where Max actually admits some fault. Dude started overtaking on the inside, ended up on the outside of the track and actually said "where was I supposed to go?"

I'll call that a racing incident in the end, but Lewis was accused of attempted murder for a lot less last year.

 

[Veinz]

I'm 100% sure that if the roles were reversed, the usual suspects would still blame Max.

 

[Jubby]

Or maybe drivers should learn when to back out of doors closing? Current new gen of drivers don't seem to have that ability.

Strongly disagree with that. Respect and space needs to be given when someone is significantly alongside. It's not within the rules/precedent at this point, which is a shame.
Edit: Removed last statement (clarity)

 

[Jimlaad43]

I'm 100% sure that if the roles were reversed, the usual suspects would still blame Max.

Well I blamed Lewis, so yeah if the roles were reverse I would blame Max

 

[PaMu1337]

I'm 100% sure that if the roles were reversed, the usual suspects would still blame Max.

Well I blamed Lewis, so yeah if the roles were reverse I would blame Max

I see multiple people here who are usually pro-Max blaming him, and some who have been anti-Max blaming Lewis. I'm not seeing the usual suspects here.

Basically shows that it was really close to a 50/50 incident

 

[Jimlaad43]

How has Alonso and Bottas ended up as best of the rest? Vettel and Norris were clear in the first stint (I know Norris's penalty)

 

[Veinz]

After yesterdays spectacle at Alpine, I can't wait until Alonso and Stroll are team mates.

 

[Jimlaad43]

We've seen overtaking at pretty much every corner in this race.

I love this circuit!!!

 

[Grayfox]

After yesterdays spectacle at Alpine, I can't wait until Alonso and Stroll are team mates.

Last thing is needed then is to replace stroll.

 

[McLaren]

After yesterdays spectacle at Alpine, I can't wait until Alonso and Stroll are team mates.

Stroll won’t make it to the end of the season; Nando will go nuclear.

 

[Samus]

That's a fair understanding, but I don't like that the FIA is allowing people to close the door on cars and practically encouraging collisions. It's seriously dangerous (or can be). In that scenario, all both need to do is give space and there is no problem.

VER was on the inside for the right hander but wasn't fully alongside, that is always going to lead to a closing door.

You can't expect racing drivers to go around leaving the inside line open around a corner unless the other car is fully alongside as you turn in, which he wasn't.

 

[PaMu1337]

I kind of missed the fact that Leclerc survived his crash. I've been assuming that he was out

 

[Jubby]

VER was on the inside for the right hander but wasn't fully alongside, that is always going to lead to a closing door.

You can't expect racing drivers to go around leaving the inside line open around a corner unless the other car is fully alongside as you turn in, which he wasn't.

This is precisely why F1 lingers behind other motorsport, despite supposing to be the best and top of the mountain. I will never accept that a driver should not be given space when a significant part of the car is alongside. Being more than 50% alongside should be more than enough. The FIA's rules leave a lot to be desired on many fronts.

 

[McLaren]

How many damn tires does Ferrari have?

 

[Jubby]

How many damn tires does Ferrari have?

As many as the alphabet allows?

 

[PaMu1337]

How many damn tires does Ferrari have?

This many:

 

[Bosso]

Strongly disagree with that. Respect and space needs to be given when someone is significantly alongside. It's not within the rules/precedent at this point, which is a shame.
Edit: Removed last statement (clarity)

There was plenty given in the 1st phase - if there was no respect, Hamilton would have run him off the track instead. Besides, you can't expect room to be given every single time wheel to wheel combat occurs. In that situation, Verstappen should have backed off because it was clear Hamilton was going to go through the apex ahead with a door that was always closing. It's not as though the door shut instantly, there was a decent amount of time before it did. You never had this many incidents of this nature with the old school drivers.

 

[Veinz]

Bono sounds slightly annoyed lol