Formula 1 Magyar Nagydíj 2016

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I too find it crazy that he hasn't been penalised - after the Bianchi incident the subject of slowing under yellows has, rightly, been under the microscope. Rosberg didn't seem to slow at all and certainly didn't seem prepared to stop.

I'm surprised there has been no formal investigation irrespective of the outcome.
 
I'm surprised there has been no formal investigation irrespective of the outcome.

There is now



Weirdly they said they looked at it live and thought it was ok. Doubt they'll do anything though.
 
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I too find it crazy that he hasn't been penalised - after the Bianchi incident the subject of slowing under yellows has, rightly, been under the microscope. Rosberg didn't seem to slow at all and certainly didn't seem prepared to stop.
I will be surprised if he isn't penalised, surprised by casual reaction so far. Nico Rosberg is essentially going into a slightly blind corner under double yellows pretty much fully committed, a few KPH in it in terms of minimum speed. Could have been anything there but fortunately there wasn't. Hopefully won't be too long before it gets clarified now: Hamilton calls on FIA to clarify yellow flag rules
 
Is there a onboard anyplace that shows a Merc in that same corner and when did they lift off of the throttle when the track was green?
 
Indeed, were they on a siesta or something? Not sure what took them so long to even say they're looking at it, it's usually more or less instant.

Last call at the local pub

I will be surprised if he isn't penalised, surprised by casual reaction so far. Nico Rosberg is essentially going into a slightly blind corner under double yellows pretty much fully committed, a few KPH in it in terms of minimum speed. Could have been anything there but fortunately there wasn't. Hopefully won't be too long before it gets clarified now: Hamilton calls on FIA to clarify yellow flag rules

I'm sure plenty are calling for it now, and I wouldn't be surprised if Horner called for it because his driver (Daniel) felt slighted by one guy being able to do what he would have if he knew he could have.

Maybe Lewis wasn't so unbothered by second, or it could be he just would like to know so in the future this happens he wont back out when he is .3 up on his team mate that went purple in the middle sector. I don't know, it's a reasonable question to ask from all parties (a lot) asking.

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You wouldn't think it was double yellow.


Just noticed going into the second corner there is a yellow flashing light to still hold caution and slow...but yet he went even faster and we all know his first sector for the second lap was worse than that of the first lap.
 
It does seem like another incident involving Rosberg will result in some clarifications.

The problem as I see it is "Slow down and be prepared to stop" isn't the clearest wording in the world. I mean technically you can be prepared to stop at any speed, it'll just take longer. It doesn't say "Be prepared to stop within x metres".
 
Shocking decision! Being a F1 race marshal seems to have now got a whole lot more dangerous and also for the drivers. Wonder if decision will be protested.
 
Looks like the stewards are doubling down on the 107% rule. Meaning both the Red Bulls are out of the top 10.



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Looks like they came to their senses again.

 
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Because it doesn't benefit Lewis?
Nope, because it sets a dangerous precedent and affects all drivers who have to abide by the FIA International Sporting Code. You're going to get now drivers barely slowing down for double yellows. Accidents waiting to happen. Most slowed down a lot which was good to see, what FIA is encouraging now is essentially a few KPH drop is considered significant speed reduction under double yellows and most drivers should carry a lot more speed in them situations than they currently do. Most potentially dangerous situations should now call for at least a virtual safety car really, double yellows seem rather pointless IMO.

I wonder what junior drivers will do now, a tenth or so seems enough for FIA. If this decision isn't overturned, I can't see things turning out well.
 
I'm sure they just enjoy being ridiculed. I mean they got it right in the end but how was it even a topic? Oh I know, yet another ambiguous rule that doesn't account for obvious force majeure like weather being the obvious and only reason for failing 107%.
 
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Looks like they came to their senses again.

Came to their senses? They were right the first time. The cars that failed in the 107% time should be allowed to start but carry their FP3 times.

The stewarding at this event seems a) Very slow and b) Very questionable.

Additionally several of the drivers are asking why simply slowing down by 0.1s in a DWY zone is acceptable - that falls far below the standard that they believe should be upheld, it seems.
 
Came to their senses? They were right the first time. The cars that failed in the 107% time should be allowed to start but carry their FP3 times.

The stewarding at this event seems a) Very slow and b) Very questionable.

Additionally several of the drivers are asking why simply slowing down by 0.1s in a DWY zone is acceptable - that falls far below the standard that they believe should be upheld, it seems.
The point of the 107% rule is to prevent cars that are wholesale too slow to compete under any conditions. I don't see the logic in applying it to cars that are only slower because of a change in conditions. We all know those cars are fast enough to complete, common sense must be applied.

Once again it's a badly written rule.
 
@Saidur_Ali fair enough but if the rule says lifting is enough then it's not a shocking decision.

What would have been shocking was demoting the Red Bulls.
 
@Saidur_Ali fair enough but if the rule says lifting is enough then it's not a shocking decision.

What would have been shocking was demoting the Red Bulls.
Their reason was "The telemetry demonstrated that the driver reduced speed significantly into turn 8."

Looking at minimum speed going into turn 8, he was not much slower than the fastest through there. Maybe about 2MPH slower is significant for double yellows compared to green for the stewards but to me seems ridiculous situation. Only sector Nico was significantly quicker was in sector two compared to his previous best lap. It's likely it will be fastest sector two all race weekend. I wonder if that's been done before, having a fastest sector with double yellows?
 
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