Forza Motorsport 7: General Pre-Release Discussion

[TokoTurismo]

The moment I saw his name, I instantly knew it be bad news.

Anyone believes Forza 7 will run at 4k 60fps? When I saw that in the presentation I started lol'ing. To me the video demonstration looked like running at 30 fps at most with frame drops included

Wow dude, trying hard now? You lost so many arguments over the years and now you're attempting to start another here? Not only is your comment laughable, so is your lack of knowledge on Forza.

You really need to refresh you image here on GTP bud.

 

[BlazeTheCat05]

So...who's excited for today's Garage reveal?

 

[PzR Slim]

Xbox one X isnt powerful enough for 4k 60 fps unless you do a ton of trickery to force it.

Citation required to back that up as the information I provided from an independent source to you refutes your claim.

 

[NixxxoN]

Citation required to back that up as the information I provided to you refutes your claim.

Nvidia GTX 1080 struggles to reach 4k 60 in most games and its way more powerful than the xbox X. 4k 60 fps graphics cards for PC cost usually the same as the entire xbox one x. Pure logic. Keep on believing if you want, you'll see. Even microsoft said their games will look a lot better on PC maxed out

 

[TokoTurismo]

So...who's excited for today's Garage reveal?

Me! Mememe!

 

[SlipZtrEm]

"blah blah blah im so smart and you arent"
Xbox one X isnt powerful enough for 4k 60 fps unless you do a ton of trickery to force it (trickery = lower the settings for less power demand). I dont believe the marketing bs. Wait and see for the final version on the console.

And with that, you've made it very clear why you've visited this thread. Fix your attitude — and your posting quality.

It's not "trickery". Or at least, you wouldn't consider it so if we were discussing any other franchise. It's called optimization, and every developer does it. If you'd have done even a semblance of research into the XB1 X' architecture, you'd understand how 4K/60 is indeed possible.

Again, as someone who was actually at E3, and played FM7: it runs at 4K/60 without issue. Since you're suggesting it doesn't, you can provide proof.

 

[PzR Slim]

Nvidia GTX 1080 struggles to reach 4k 60 in most games and its way more powerful than the xbox X. 4k 60 fps graphics cards for PC cost usually the same as the entire xbox one x. Pure logic. Keep on believing if you want, you'll see. Even microsoft said their games will look a lot better on PC maxed out

So it's your opinion and you choose to ignore the findings of well respected, independent experts who had access to the game and hardware and have carried out some detailed statistical analysis.

 

[Nielsen]

Anyone believes Forza 7 will run at 4k 60fps? When I saw that in the presentation I started lol'ing. To me the video demonstration looked like running at 30 fps at most with frame drops included

It might have been bad captures, but I will add that I don't remember ever seeing an official presentation stutter like the one for FM7 at E3. Gamescom is just around the corner, so hold your horses for now.

 

[PJTierney]

So...who's excited for today's Garage reveal?

Which manufacturer's interest will not line up with the interests of fans today?

Once a list is posted I'll update the usual threads with information.

 

[BlazeTheCat05]

Which manufacturer's interest will not line up with the interests of fans today?

Once a list is posted I'll update the usual threads with information.

Haha! So true. 👍

 

[NixxxoN]

And with that, you've made it very clear why you've visited this thread. Fix your attitude — and your posting quality.

It's not "trickery". Or at least, you wouldn't consider it so if we were discussing any other franchise. It's called optimization, and every developer does it. If you'd have done even a semblance of research into the XB1 X' architecture, you'd understand how 4K/60 is indeed possible.

Again, as someone who was actually at E3, and played FM7: it runs at 4K/60 without issue. Since you're suggesting it doesn't, you can provide proof.

No one can have proof because the final game isnt out yet. I'm very skeptical, lets see.

So it's your opinion and you choose to ignore the findings of well respected, independent experts who had access to the game and hardware and have carried out some detailed statistical analysis.

I dont believe in any of the so called experts, I only believe in what I see for myself.

 

[PzR Slim]

It might have been bad captures, but I will add that I don't remember ever seeing an official presentation stutter like the one for FM7 at E3. Gamescom is just around the corner, so hold your horses for now.

I've downloaded the two direct captures provided by Digital Foundry of gameplay from E3. On my 4K OLED with HDR enabled they look stunning and are buttery smooth without a hint of frame drops. I don't think we can draw too many conclusions from the footage shown at the presentation.

No one can have proof because the final game isnt out yet.

That doesn't seemed to have stopped you from telling us it's impossible.

Edit: Apologies to @Nielsen . I edited this to include the reply to NixxxoN after he liked my post. So only take his like to mean my reply to him.

 

[NixxxoN]

That doesn't seemed to have stopped you from telling us it's impossible.

Yet again you struggle to get the difference between stating a fact and posting an opinion

 

[PzR Slim]

Yet again you struggle to get the difference between stating a fact and posting an opinion

Nope.

"blah blah blah im so smart and you arent"
Xbox one X isnt powerful enough for 4k 60 fps unless you do a ton of trickery to force it (trickery = lower the settings for less power demand). I dont believe the marketing bs. Wait and see for the final version on the console.

That's not stating an opinion thats you telling us that 'Xbox one X isn't powerful enough for 4k 60fps.'

It's all immaterial however, @SlipZtrEm has already informed us he was at e3, played a demo of the game on the hardware and has confirmed it was buttery smooth at 4k.

 

[NixxxoN]

Nope.

That's not stating an opinion thats you telling us that 'Xbox one X isn't powerful enough for 4k 60fps.'

It is
You'll see

 

[ImaRobot]

Anyone believes Forza 7 will run at 4k 60fps? When I saw that in the presentation I started lol'ing. To me the video demonstration looked like running at 30 fps at most with frame drops included

It's obvious you don't know how videos on youtube works. Are you serious?

No one can have proof because the final game isnt out yet. I'm very skeptical, lets see.

I dont believe in any of the so called experts, I only believe in what I see for myself.

So then stop saying that it can't if you can't prove it either. You have no proof of anything you're stating.

Yet again you struggle to get the difference between stating a fact and posting an opinion

You didn't post it as an opinion, you said it wont.

It is
You'll see

And this just confirms it that you meant it as a fact, if you're telling people "you'll see." Your ignorance is hilarious.

 

[PzR Slim]

It is
You'll see

We know it is, @SlipZtrEm has already confirmed it is by virtue of experiencing it for himself.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

No one can have proof because the final game isnt out yet. I'm very skeptical, lets see.

For what reason? The developer has three previous games dating back to 2011 that targeted a locked 60fps and hit it — something no other racing dev has done.

I dont believe in any of the so called experts, I only believe in what I see for myself.

Right, because you're planning on getting an XB1 X to try it for yourself?



This has nothing to do with what you see, it has to do with what you feel, because you're so blinkered by your fanaticism for one franchise in particular. Facts rarely enter into your posts. As an example:

It is
You'll see

No. You are stating something as a fact — and you've already been proven wrong in this very thread. Continuing to ignore this, to repeatedly post your own opinions and present them as facts, will be treated as the trolling it very much is.

It's fine if you want to stick your fingers in your ears to ignore any of the news about the game — we both know you have no intentions of playing it — but do not represent your incredibly uninformed opinions as facts.

 

[PJTierney]

Apologies for mini-modding but can we just let this rest?

@NixxxoN has made his mind up, and others have theirs. This forum's been getting more and more argumentative and petty recently and it's not nice to see.

Just wait for the game to come out and count the pixels yourself you believe if it's a critical issue and don't trust the words of those who have either {a} seen the footage running natively already or {b} read first-hand reports of people who have done {a}.

 

[UKMikey]

What makes me believe them is the fact that I can achieve 4K@60FPS on my PC with Forza Apex and that wasn't even written from the ground up for PC.

Oops... sorry @PJTierney, didn't see your post before mine. @NixxxoN came here on a griefing run and we all took the bait and ran with it.

 

[ImaRobot]

@NixxxoN came here on a griefing run and we all took the bait and ran with it.

Not so much an issue. The guy has an issue with people calling out his favorite game in the GTS forum, so he decided to come over here and try to pretend like this course of action is justified. It's written all over him, and his actions here just solidifies the fact that he is not looking for an honest comparison, or trying to learn anything from it. He is just coming in to start griefing, but doesn't realize that he is just jeopardizing his own membership here.

Just wait for the game to come out and count the pixels yourself you believe if it's a critical issue and don't trust the words of those who have either {a} seen the footage running natively already or {b} read first-hand reports of people who have done {a}.

That would all be fine if he was actually interested in doing any of that. He's not willing to use any factual information.

 

[TokoTurismo]

I'm just going to say, that I feel sorry for those like @NixxxoN.

 

[PJTierney]

Here, talk about this instead:

https://news.xbox.com/2017/08/08/fa...orza-motorsport-7-garage/#jRjISYy2f78IiqSc.99

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1970 Buick GSX
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2011 Cadillac CTS-V Coupe
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2013 Cadillac XTS Limousine
2016 Cadillac ATS-V
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1970 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
1970 Chevrolet Chevelle Super Sport 454
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1971 Chevrolet Vega GT
1979 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
1988 Chevrolet Monte Carlo Super Sport
1990 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
1995 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1
2002 Chevrolet Camaro 35th Anniversary Super Sport
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
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2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
2014 Chevrolet Super Sport
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2016 Chevrolet Camaro Super Sport
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1972 Chrysler VH Valiant Charger R/T E49
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1970 Dodge Challenger R/T
1970 Dodge Coronet Super Bee
1986 Dodge Shelby Omni GLHS
1999 Dodge Viper GTS ACR
2005 Dodge SRT-4 ACR
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2012 Dodge Challenger SRT8 392
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2015 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat
2016 Dodge Viper ACR
1998 Eagle Talon TSi Turbo
1956 Ford F-100
1971 Ford Falcon XY GTHO Phase III
1971 Ford Mustang Mach 1
1972 Ford Falcon XA GT-HO
1973 Ford Capri RS3100
1973 Ford Escort RS1600
1973 Ford XB Falcon GT
1975 Ford Bronco
1977 Ford Escort RS1800
1978 Ford Mustang II King Cobra
1981 Ford Fiesta XR2
1985 Ford RS200 Evolution
1987 Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500
1992 Ford Escort RS Cosworth
1992 Ford Falcon GT
1993 Ford SVT Cobra R
1995 Ford SVT Cobra R
2000 Ford SVT Cobra R
2003 Ford Focus RS
2005 Ford GT
2009 Ford Focus RS
2007 Ford Shelby GT500
2010 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
2011 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor
2011 Ford Transit SuperSportVan
2013 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor Shelby
2013 Ford Shelby GT500
2014 Ford Fiesta ST
2014 Ford FPV Limited Edition Pursuit Ute
2015 Ford Falcon GT F 351
2015 Ford Falcon XR8
2015 Ford Mustang GT
2016 Ford Shelby GT350R
2017 Ford F-150 Raptor
2016 Ford Focus RS
2017 Ford GT
1983 GMC Vandura G-1500
2006 HUMMER H1 Alpha
1970 International Scout 800A
1976 Jeep CJ5 Renegade
1991 Jeep Grand Wagoneer
2009 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8
2012 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT
2016 Jeep Trailcat
2014 Local Motors Rally Fighter
1970 Mercury Cougar Eliminator
1971 Meyers Manx
2011 Penhall Cholla
2015 Polaris RZR XP 1000 EPS
1977 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
1971 Plymouth Cuda 426 HEMI
1971 Plymouth GTX 426 HEMI
2000 Plymouth Prowler
1973 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am SD-455
1987 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am GTA
2002 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am Ram Air
2009 Pontiac G8 GXP
2009 Pontiac Solstice GXP
2013 Ram Runner
2013 SRT Viper GTS

 

[ImaRobot]

Welcome back 2015 Mustang GT!

 

[NixxxoN]

We know it is, @SlipZtrEm has already confirmed it is by virtue of experiencing it for himself.

Did he? The final game releasing on october?

For what reason? The developer has three previous games dating back to 2011 that targeted a locked 60fps and hit it — something no other racing dev has done.

In what resolution and graphics quality though?

 

[ImaRobot]

it is not the final game though!

Step back and listen to yourself. You've made judgement on things, even though all the evidence points to the contrary, yet your outright say it wont. You've not waited for the final game at all.

In what resolution and graphics quality though?

1080p, 60fps, and the utmost graphical quality.

 

[PzR Slim]

Here, talk about this instead:

https://news.xbox.com/2017/08/08/fa...orza-motorsport-7-garage/#jRjISYy2f78IiqSc.99

1970 AMC Rebel “The Machine”
1971 AMC Javelin AMX
1977 AMC Pacer X
1970 Buick GSX
1987 Buick Regal GNX
2011 Cadillac CTS-V Coupe
2012 Cadillac Escalade ESV
2013 Cadillac XTS Limousine
2016 Cadillac ATS-V
2016 Cadillac CTS-V Sedan
1970 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
1970 Chevrolet Chevelle Super Sport 454
1970 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1
1970 Chevrolet El Camino Super Sport 454
1971 Chevrolet Vega GT
1979 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
1988 Chevrolet Monte Carlo Super Sport
1990 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
1995 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1
2002 Chevrolet Camaro 35th Anniversary Super Sport
2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
2014 Chevrolet Super Sport
2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
2016 Chevrolet Camaro Super Sport
2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
1972 Chrysler VH Valiant Charger R/T E49
2012 Chrysler 300 SRT8
1970 Dodge Challenger R/T
1970 Dodge Coronet Super Bee
1986 Dodge Shelby Omni GLHS
1999 Dodge Viper GTS ACR
2005 Dodge SRT-4 ACR
2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR
2012 Dodge Challenger SRT8 392
2012 Dodge Charger SRT8
2013 Dodge Dart GT
2015 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat
2016 Dodge Viper ACR
1998 Eagle Talon TSi Turbo
1956 Ford F-100
1971 Ford Falcon XY GTHO Phase III
1971 Ford Mustang Mach 1
1972 Ford Falcon XA GT-HO
1973 Ford Capri RS3100
1973 Ford Escort RS1600
1973 Ford XB Falcon GT
1975 Ford Bronco
1977 Ford Escort RS1800
1978 Ford Mustang II King Cobra
1981 Ford Fiesta XR2
1985 Ford RS200 Evolution
1987 Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500
1992 Ford Escort RS Cosworth
1992 Ford Falcon GT
1993 Ford SVT Cobra R
1995 Ford SVT Cobra R
2000 Ford SVT Cobra R
2003 Ford Focus RS
2005 Ford GT
2009 Ford Focus RS
2007 Ford Shelby GT500
2010 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
2011 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor
2011 Ford Transit SuperSportVan
2013 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor Shelby
2013 Ford Shelby GT500
2014 Ford Fiesta ST
2014 Ford FPV Limited Edition Pursuit Ute
2015 Ford Falcon GT F 351
2015 Ford Falcon XR8
2015 Ford Mustang GT
2016 Ford Shelby GT350R
2017 Ford F-150 Raptor
2016 Ford Focus RS
2017 Ford GT
1983 GMC Vandura G-1500
2006 HUMMER H1 Alpha
1970 International Scout 800A
1976 Jeep CJ5 Renegade
1991 Jeep Grand Wagoneer
2009 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8
2012 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT
2016 Jeep Trailcat
2014 Local Motors Rally Fighter
1970 Mercury Cougar Eliminator
1971 Meyers Manx
2011 Penhall Cholla
2015 Polaris RZR XP 1000 EPS
1977 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
1971 Plymouth Cuda 426 HEMI
1971 Plymouth GTX 426 HEMI
2000 Plymouth Prowler
1973 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am SD-455
1987 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am GTA
2002 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am Ram Air
2009 Pontiac G8 GXP
2009 Pontiac Solstice GXP
2013 Ram Runner
2013 SRT Viper GTS

Thanks. Can't wait to experience all of those in glorious 4k 60fps

 

[INEEDNAWZZZ]

Reading that the team flew out to Japan to scan an original 22B brings me hope that they're finally fixing a few of the uncanny valley models

 

[Ryan81]

American cars just don't interest me all that much...Would have preferred a European theme. I can't really see any new cars to the Forza series in that list (please correct me if I'm wrong) Is the Pontiac G8 GXP returning from Forza 4?

 

[Dsavage27]

American cars just don't interest me all that much...Would have preferred a European theme. I can't really see any new cars to the Forza series in that list (please correct me if I'm wrong) Is the Pontiac G8 GXP returning from Forza 4?

G8 gxp is from forza 4, yes. Welcome back for that car. More then likely a European them will follow next week as we haven't seen anything from bmw, Audi or Mercedes yet. It's coming...

Side note; we still only have less then 10 new to forza cars so far. So either they are saving the new cars for last or this game will be filled with previous forza game cars which isn't too bad but we need new cars.