I’d have moved on by the time any licenses expire.
Forza Motorsport Single-Player Mode Revealed: Car Leveling, Car Points, Online Saves, & More
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- SleezyBigSlim
I have a feeling they didn't want to talk about multiplayer because is doesn't stack up to Sport mode in GT7. How you have a whole direct and not mention multiplayer, shows lack of confidence in multiplayer.
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- Virginia
- FordGT40Guy
- FordGTGuy
Them not talking about multiplayer has nothing do with any other game. It was an extended showcase specifically about the career mode. They are likely gauging reaction to this showcase to finalize what they want to launch with multiplayer.
Also, they already announced a schedule of what they'll be talking about in the future.
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- SUTempest
I really like progression is going to be a thing in Forza again, something that was missing in FM7. Bounding with my cars is going to be great!
Ask for the comment section, not surprising in the slightest.It's just because it's Forza, so it's common to happen.
I'd rather they do something that ruffles feathers and looks very different (even if some people should really, really, really reserve judgment until release). Marketing-speak aside, they have an incentive to do so even if they weren't gonna drop the 8; it has been six years since the last Forza Motorsport. Something new is in order, no matter what.
McLaren
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They didn't talk about multiplayer, free play, livery editor, or anything else but career mode b/c they only had 10 minutes to dedicate to the game for the Monthly Showcase.
Check back through the coming months.
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- jdmking13
- Lucid killer 58
That won’t do it for me… I’m going to have to buy three different GTR for example to make a Z tune S tune and R tune… I get what your saying but if they have custom grids I would like to have all these cars on the track together… granted I might have to look into what your saying… If there is no custom grid options there is no point in owning multiple of the same car with upgrade system… making multiple profiles might have to be the remedy.
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- Virginia
- FordGT40Guy
- FordGTGuy
There are four things I would personally want featured in the game to help with concerns.
1) Allow you to openly modify vehicles that you use in Freeplay (or rent in multiplayer) without unlocking; significantly lower the payout of using rented vehicles vs owned vehicles.
2) The same model vehicle should share its level with owned multiples of that vehicle.
3) Allow you to gain experience with specific models of vehicles that you use in freeplay or rent online for use; significantly lower rate of car xp vs the amount earned if you drive a vehicle you own.
4) Add an option to automatically place you in the grid based on your best lap in practice.
I think making multiple saved tunes would make the most sense anyway.
What would be cool is if on the car select screen there were an subdivided boxes with versions of your car with the different saved tunes; so you can select a specific tuned version of the vehicle as if it were a different vehicle in your garage.
1) Allow you to openly modify vehicles that you use in Freeplay (or rent in multiplayer) without unlocking; significantly lower the payout of using rented vehicles vs owned vehicles.
2) The same model vehicle should share its level with owned multiples of that vehicle.
3) Allow you to gain experience with specific models of vehicles that you use in freeplay or rent online for use; significantly lower rate of car xp vs the amount earned if you drive a vehicle you own.
4) Add an option to automatically place you in the grid based on your best lap in practice.
I think making multiple saved tunes would make the most sense anyway.
What would be cool is if on the car select screen there were an subdivided boxes with versions of your car with the different saved tunes; so you can select a specific tuned version of the vehicle as if it were a different vehicle in your garage.
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- MHFanatik
It's dumb when in the stream Chris Esaki says something like "I'd like to watch the race but we don't have much time", it's an independent stream, there is no time limit, the stream goes on for another hour and a half to talk about nonsense useless stuff that nobody cares about instead of showing the game. The drip feed is annoying and it's doing them no favours. It's always "stay tuned" for next tiny bit of information. Come on now, the game was supposed to be out earlier this year, it should be feature and content complete with only polishing left to do. I'm just tired of this old marketing strategy.They didn't talk about multiplayer, free play, livery editor, or anything else but career mode b/c they only had 10 minutes to dedicate to the game for the Monthly Showcase.
Check back through the coming months.
I remember when FM4 was being shown around E3 and they had this sit down at gamespot with Dan going over different features and aspects of the game and explaining the work that went into it. It's only 24 minutes long but you get a good sense for what the game is. I must've watched this demo 20 times because I was so excited.
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Like the monetization? Or have save systems are online? Or car level? Or how car upgrades unlock? Or how assists don't have an artificial nerf on car performance? Or how car progression is handled? Or how challenge the grid system works? Or how the AI is changed?
Idk seems pretty important to me.
The drip feed is literally how every game handles it. There are 4 months to go before launch. They aren't gonna drop everything just after the showcase and have nothing to talk about till launch.
It just feels like now you are complaining for thr sake of complaining.
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- MHFanatik
You can talk about all that stuff while showing off the game, I'm not gonna spend an hour looking at a guy talking to the camera. The example above is how it should be done, talk about a feature and show it in direct gameplay.
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- MHFanatik
If you're happy with it, good for you. I prefer the presentation style from that FM4 demo, it's deeper and wider and more interesting and engaging.
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- Canada
Well this ain't FM4's presentation. Dan isn't the creative director anymore so it's time to move past that. How Chris handled the presentation was fine without going extra since people are gonna complain anyways. What else you have up your sleeves?
McLaren
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This is pretty much why your usual takes in this section go largely challenged and/or ignored.
The entire live stream isn't just dedicated to FM, it has to cover Horizon and everything going on there as well. Whether or not it's "nonsense useless stuff" is irrelevant b/c that's just your own equally descriptive opinion. There's 4 more months, they're not going to reveal all of it. That's been their m.o. for a long time now, same with other games. Bringing up market strategy is funny enough; this is a legitimate marketing strategy done to keep interest engaged throughout the coming months.
If you're not happy with it, well, you can always rewatch the FM4 showcase another 20 times to relive those days.
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- MHFanatik
I find it funny that the marketing people have conditioned people to accept these poor presentations, I normally don't watch streams or marketing materials for games except for a handful few. Forza just happens to be one of my favorite games, I've purchased a Series X earlier this year specifically for FM8, as I've done with 360 and One. So the degradation of marketing strategies caught me by surprise, I prefer to have straight to the point and engaging messaging. The inclusion of a big Horizon segment is weird because that game had almost 2 years of monthly streams at this point, it wouldn't hurt to relegate them to short trailer for this one stream for a new upcoming Forza. I understand that Horizon is the main franchise now and Motorsport is a niche product for a small dedicated audience. That FM4 presentation is 20 minutes long and goes over several key features, but there were still many features left to cover until release. Perhaps some feel hesitant to critique any work for fear of offending devs or catching heat from diehard fanboys, but I don't care for that. You can check my activity on this website and see that I've not posted in a while because I've been waiting for this game, I've stuck with Xbox because of forza alone, but after this showcase I feel like maybe I need a PS5 as well because GT7 is doing some things better, particularly the track count. I am at a crossroads now whereas before the showcase I didn't feel any desire to look at the GT side of things.
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Forza has been to easy in my opinion its first now like its seems like we get a much better progression system, and career mode and not Throwing hypercars at you in first couble of hours, the progression has for the most part been much better in gran turismo in my opinion, gt7 has good payouts in a couble of races but they need to increase other events,
The 2 latest horizon become boring to me becouse of the bad progression and story,
Why even bother let you choise 1 car of you get all 3 anyway, and cars was to extreme as starter cars in my opinion
First horizon game had much better story and progression, you started off With volkswagen colorado, they just run out of ideas and they are not willing to put in the time for a great story and progression
The 2 latest horizon become boring to me becouse of the bad progression and story,
Why even bother let you choise 1 car of you get all 3 anyway, and cars was to extreme as starter cars in my opinion
First horizon game had much better story and progression, you started off With volkswagen colorado, they just run out of ideas and they are not willing to put in the time for a great story and progression
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- Codemasters (EA)
- PJTierney
You’d think vehicle customisation would be in that list.They didn't talk about multiplayer, free play, livery editor, or anything else but career mode b/c they only had 10 minutes to dedicate to the game for the Monthly Showcase.
Check back through the coming months.
I’m sure the game will have a livery editor but there’s been zero mention of one so far.
- 5,666
- Codemasters (EA)
- PJTierney
That segment was pre-recorded as a stand-alone video and its length is optimised for YouTube audience retention. In terms of information delivery, 6 minutes of a car going around a track won’t tell people more about career, and that is their focus.
I am sure there will be plenty of gameplay coming before/around launch. The game is 4 months away.
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Not really. I don't have any children, I have a girlfriend who is low maintenance. From 5pm to Midnight weekdays, and all weekend, I can play and do all I want without anyone/anything getting in the way. I just can't be bothered to invest the same amount of time into that game - when I could be playing something else, more enjoyable, or is a new experience.
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- davidwhannel
Hopefully we hear more about tracks and DLC now that Builders Cup is out the way, given how high DLC has been voted for it's strange not to see it even mentioned. There's still 3 days left in the poll: https://forums.forza.net/t/poll-wha...to-hear-more-about-in-forza-motorsport/606153Check back through the coming months.
Their use of bumper cam for so much of the gameplay footage really stood out to me, never seen anyone use it in any stream, it's like they're embarrassed to show cars in actual gameplay.
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I think the difficulty is to find the balance between single player (preferably offline) and multiplayer PVP.
In singles it's nice to have that progression, low power start car and gradually work your way up into better cups with better cars.
On the other hand, there is the PVP online experience.
People want to get started right away, and have a large, competitive car selection.
In GT7 I often have that with my friends. I play more often and also like to play single player, many of them don't have as much time or other preferences. When we play online, they are limited to a few cars. Which causes them a certain amount of frustration.
It would be best if these parts were completely separated.
so that online you can just choose everything from the beginning and for the single player you are limited to the achievements from the career.
As a bonus, you could give an option to use your cars from the career online as well (simply allow / disallow with a checkbox).
I am curious about the career of Forza 8. but I remain sceptical about the online part.
PS: i also have an oversaturation of Forza Horizon.... it's great but has remained practically the same for at least 3 parts (only new locations).
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MagpieRacer
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I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with the online offering for this game.
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Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think their point was as much about responsibilities of being an adult, but more just that as adults we usually lose our child-like sense of wonder and become kinda jaded where fewer and fewer things amaze us.
I think that's a big part of why there are all these "racing games suck now!" complaints. Nothing can give people that sense of discovery and wonder that they had back when they fired up Gran Turismo 2 for the first time and saw cars they had never heard of before or got to race at tracks they had never seen or learned about what camber does.
By now, all of us have worked our way up from racing hatchbacks to LMP1s, we have all been world champions, we have all avenged the death of our fathers by beating the guy that wrecked him, we have all seen and got to drive so many obscure cars from Spada Codatroncas to Renault Espace F1s, we have driven rally monsters on the scariest roads in the world and raced technological marvels at the newest state of the art facilities... No amount of grinding XP bars, new currencies, annoying pep-talks from unconvincing voice actors pretending to be your personal engineer, or goofy straight-to-DVD-tier cliche stories are really going to bring that wonder and excitement back...
...Which leaves just the racing, so you would think people would care about it right? But it's often the last part many people talk about, instead arguing about which soundtrack was better, whether or not a car model is inaccurate, whether the trees are high quality enough, whether the menu for the career mode was pretty enough, whether it needs the newest Lamborghini, how the game gave them a Ferrari before they think they deserve it (even though they don't have to use it), or whatever.
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MagpieRacer
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And if it did happen, everyone would complain anyway saying that they aren't doing anything new or different to distinguish itself from the past. That same person would probably argue that they aren't paying full price for effectively a remaster of the old game 🤷♂️. Developers truly cannot win.
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