Forza3 Definitive Trailer: AKA Why we are better than GT5 w Pro Racer Testimonials.

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I swear I'm getting tired of your attitude towards me. Mark my words: I never said GT5 was going to be a better game than FM3. Can't you read? Obviously you can't, but you obviously cannot understand what you are reading. :dunce:

If you are tired of my attitude then put me on your ignore list. That would easily solve that problem. I'm honestly getting tired of your personal attacks, which I will take care of shortly. And yes I can clearly read for the record.

You suggested that it needed to be proved that Forza 3 was better then GT5, I asked you to prove vice versa, which you have yet to do. You claimed that PD has nothing to prove, even though the call themselves the "real driving simulator" which I do not think, nor judging by many of the threads on this forum, that PD has actually lived up to. Saying a company has nothing to prove, especially when they make a bold claim, is saying that their product is already up to standard or beyond. Saying Forza 3 has nothing to prove means that it's below the standard. By that, you are saying GT5 is better.

I have clearly stated that I think Forza 3 has a lot to live up to since there has been quite a bit of hype surrounding the game. I believe GT5 has just as much to live up to as well.
 
10 pages in 3-4 days, my goodness you really love flames and speculation
 
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I think its better to judge two full games once they are out for at least a month or two, so that each game is play a lot.

That is what I will do. Get both, enjoy them both, and pick the best if I can.

Wow, a voice of reason. How bored must people be waiting for these games to waste so much energy in here? Especially since it is all speculation?

Go outside and play with your 3-dimensional friends, everybody.
 
If you are tired of my attitude then put me on your ignore list. That would easily solve that problem. I'm honestly getting tired of your personal attacks, which I will take care of shortly. And yes I can clearly read for the record.

You suggested that it needed to be proved that Forza 3 was better then GT5, I asked you to prove vice versa, which you have yet to do. You claimed that PD has nothing to prove, even though the call themselves the "real driving simulator" which I do not think, nor judging by many of the threads on this forum, that PD has actually lived up to. Saying a company has nothing to prove, especially when they make a bold claim, is saying that their product is already up to standard or beyond. Saying Forza 3 has nothing to prove means that it's below the standard. By that, you are saying GT5 is better.

I have clearly stated that I think Forza 3 has a lot to live up to since there has been quite a bit of hype surrounding the game. I believe GT5 has just as much to live up to as well.


you're looking way to much into it, GT is a big name, Forza has to prove by a margin
that it is a better game if it wants the sam expectations, GT5 already has high expectations, Iithink thats all hes implying
 
I'm sorry amar, but all those TBA might as well be "No"'s, because they don't give GT any "leeway" over Forza 3 & I haven't seen anywhere that GT5 will actually have 700 cars. In fact, I've been hearing it'll probably be less.

liveries, online used garages, bodykits, race builder, team builder were confirmed for GTHD, and that was going to release in 07, imo its all coming, prologue was nothing
 
If you are tired of my attitude then put me on your ignore list. That would easily solve that problem. I'm honestly getting tired of your personal attacks, which I will take care of shortly. And yes I can clearly read for the record.

First of all, if you felt attacked by my posts, I apologize. I'm deeply sorry for that.

You suggested that it needed to be proved that Forza 3 was better then GT5, I asked you to prove vice versa, which you have yet to do.

The problem is that, with both games still not out, why Forza developers say their game is the best game? Most of the people have already said nobody can grant that for sure until we get to play both, and compare them. I agree, though I won't be able to do so myself.

The point is they can't prove their game is better than GT5. They just can't, because none is out yet. And even if Forza 3 was out, GT5 isn't. I can't prove GT5 is a better game than Forza 3 for the same reason, but that doesn't matter, cause I never said it was. :) After all, I'm not the one that made those bolds claims.

To put it simple: No one should say one game is better than the other game, when they are not even released yet. If they do, they must prove it.

You claimed that PD has nothing to prove, even though the call themselves the "real driving simulator" which I do not think, nor judging by many of the threads on this forum, that PD has actually lived up to.

Saying a company has nothing to prove, especially when they make a bold claim, is saying that their product is already up to standard or beyond. Saying Forza 3 has nothing to prove means that it's below the standard. By that, you are saying GT5 is better.

I have clearly stated that I think Forza 3 has a lot to live up to since there has been quite a bit of hype surrounding the game. I believe GT5 has just as much to live up to as well.

When I mean "prove", I think I'm making clear that I mean GT5 doesn't have to prove anyone that it may be better/same/worse than Forza, because they didn't say they were better than Forza. GT's slogan is "The Real Driving Simulation". It's a simulation, just that. It doesn't have to be 100% exact, with no room for errors. Along with Forza, it falls on the category of Driving simulators. As such, it would also go for Forza too, but GT just decided to use it as a slogan.

Don't take me wrong. I do believe GT5 has to live up, but not to our expectations, but for what they promised. With over thousands of cars this forum wants, why does GT5 has to dissapoint if just one of them is missing? People are so spoiled these days, they ask so many things. The same goes for Forza. I never go to the Forza sub-forum. I know Forza has Lamborghini, and cars like those. I'm just not interested in them. I like the fact GT has so many everyday cars. That's why I like GT more. If Forza gets more everyday cars than GT, maybe I will turn to Forza instead.
 
This is my last post in this thread. If people have this many problems with each other and these two games they should let it out on a pillow or something. Honestly I know this site is meant to have open discussion and that the OP did not mean any harm but this is getting stupid.
 
Okay... I know I may get slammed for a potentially meaningless post that doesn't contribute anything.

But in here, having just read the thread, there's some pretty serious arguing. About two video games. Video games.

Seriously? Is it that important?
 
My impressions of the trailer
Forza Motor Sport came out on the XBOX in may 2005. When PD already had 4 Best selling racing games GT1 to GT4. To my education, It came out way too late to even be competition with PD. GT was already a successful racing simulator for 8 years before it Forza even came out. Last I checked, Project Gotham Racing was supposed to be competition for the GT series, why do they need Forza Motorsport?
Thats one thing I don't get.
Have turn10 fixed the oversteering of stock cars yet?
To Me, GT will always be the best I have GT1 to GT4. I haven't gotten Prologue yet because KY says that GT5 could come out at any time. I really hope its sooner rather than later.
 
Well, let's see..

Something I'm spending money on - Check.
Something I'm devoting an allotted amount of time to. - Check

I'd say it's pretty important to some extent, and if it's an interest and/or a hobby - even more so.
 
Okay... I know I may get slammed for a potentially meaningless post that doesn't contribute anything.

But in here, having just read the thread, there's some pretty serious arguing. About two video games. Video games.

Seriously? Is it that important?

Don't ever underestimate a human need to defend his very own decision of buying certain hardware and having no money to buy other one.
 
Don't ever underestimate a human need to defend his very own decision of buying certain hardware and having no money to buy other one.

That is true.
If you have both systems it does not matter which game is better than the other.
But if you only have one console it is a total new ball game.
I do not understand the hate a lot of people have towards MS.
 
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I'm just annoyed that i might have to buy a 360 for Forza 3 (only 360 game i'm really interested in at the moment), i was wanting to put it off until Natal (hoping for a price drop... i don't really want to pay £150 for a console i'd still need the wireless adapter and an extra controller for, and only end up playing a couple of games on...)
 
I'm just annoyed that i might have to buy a 360 for Forza 3 (only 360 game i'm really interested in at the moment), i was wanting to put it off until Natal (hoping for a price drop... i don't really want to pay £150 for a console i'd still need the wireless adapter and an extra controller for, and only end up playing a couple of games on...)

If you can afford it it is worth getting one.
There is a load of other very good games on the 360 which are not on the PS3.
I have both and do not regret it at all.
 
Personally I think they have done a good job in 2 years pretty impressive I will be buying it. Ill be honest. but and this is a big full bodied but (Clarkson) its not Gran Turismo lol ......
 
That is true.
If you have both systems it does not matter which game is better than the other.
But if you only have one console it is a total new ball game.
I do not understand the hate a lot of people have towards MS.

Glad to see someone with a clear head, I've noticed too many people on this forum dislike the 360 for no apparent reason, or just because of RROD's which are barely an issue anymore.
 
If you can afford it it is worth getting one.
There is a load of other very good games on the 360 which are not on the PS3.
Eh, I don't see that. The 360 library is full of PC game clones or multiplats. I don't like Halo or GEARS! I like Metal Gear Solid and Uncharted. I don't like the cutesy games or action-platformers on the 360. I do like LittleBigPlanet, Heavenly Sword and Ratchet & Clank. Forza is pretty cool, but PC sims are better. However, I prefer Gran Turismo. The games I'm looking forward to: White Knight Chronicles, Jak & Daxter, Sly Cooper, God of War, Tekken, Heavy Rain, ModNation Racers and so on will only be on PS3. And with multiplats, let's face it, one system is much more reliable. This is why I only have one game after two years for my 360. And I have money.

I know a lot of Americans and Brits really dig the 360, but the games are geared toward PC gamers and budget minded frat boys, and that's not me. Plus, I don't like the idea of propping up a money gouging monopoly.
 
hey guys .. i just saw this thread... I didnt go though it as it is too damn long lol .. but wt i have 2 say is that i saw these pics and they do look impressive ,,,, keep in mind I wouldnt buy an XBOX if my life depended on it. .. i dont like XBOX ... and I am a genuine ps1, ps2, ps3 fan/owner :D BUT PD needs to retaliate and give us more ... I mean we need engine swaps n etc... EVEN IF THEY DONT I STILL WONT BUY XBOX hahaha

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hey guys .. i just saw this thread... I didnt go though it as it is too damn long lol .. but wt i have 2 say is that i saw these pics and they do look impressive ,,,, keep in mind I wouldnt buy an XBOX if my life depended on it. .. i dont like XBOX ... and I am a genuine ps1, ps2, ps3 fan/owner :D BUT PD needs to retaliate and give us more ... I mean we need engine swaps n etc... EVEN IF THEY DONT I STILL WONT BUY XBOX hahaha

Now we need to check if they have the headlight model numbers on the headlights!:sly:

Seriously though. Nice job PD. That is just unbelievable. :dopey:
 
I don't know where it keeps coming from to be honest.

"I don't like Xbox... yadda, yadda, yadda" For what good reason is all I ask, just seems ridiculously arrogant and fanboy-like in my opinion. And the redundant retort of funding a monopoly or giving more money to Microsoft is getting dumber as the day goes on as well.
 
I don't know where it keeps coming from to be honest.

"I don't like Xbox... yadda, yadda, yadda" For what good reason is all I ask, just seems ridiculously arrogant and fanboy-like in my opinion. And the redundant retort of funding a monopoly or giving more money to Microsoft is getting dumber as the day goes on as well.


My thoughts exactly.
 
"I don't like Xbox... yadda, yadda, yadda" For what good reason is all I ask, just seems ridiculously arrogant and fanboy-like in my opinion. And the redundant retort of funding a monopoly or giving more money to Microsoft is getting dumber as the day goes on as well.
So you say people who don't like Ms for no reason are dumb. Fair enough. But then when reasons are given, you just blatantly decide to turn 10 around and don't like the answers?

What wears me out are people with ever changing tunes. 👎

Fine, support a monopoly who knowing sells a known defective product through multiple revisions with NO fix for more than a year, until Europe and America back Ms into a corner, and they issue TWO retroactive warranty extensions within two weeks of each other.

Dude, you can love on that all you want, but that kind of crap is what I expect from the government. And being a federal employee, I should know.
 
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