GameSpot: Yamauchi Talks GT5

[GT5_Pur Sang]

Get the hell out of here!!! Ridge racer is ****ttttt!!

 

[blinky77]

Get the hell out of here!!! Ridge racer is ****ttttt!!

Cool swearing dude.

Believe it or not racing games can be enjoyable and not realistic at the same time.

 

[The Jenius]

I have said it in other post, but I think we need to stop giving PD a pass to do what they want timewise and gamewise. We look past the facts because we put Kaz on a pedestal, like when someone says an abstract artist is a genius because you can't understand their work.

Honestly this smells of PD thinking they can live on the GT name and give us the same formula. What they are finding out is that with so many outlets available to gamers that we aren't going to settle for some crap. This oversite and the rush to catch up is causing the delays, you can see it plain as day. And still players let him off the hook like oh he's just taking his time, thats BS.

If Kaz says its done, then its done is his eyes. Fortunately for us Sony knows financially what they have to do and are telling this demigod, to go back to the drawing board and include the features every other game has and quit taking yourself so seriously, its a game that we need to make money on and your artsy BS and sheer #s aren't working this time. There is no other reason to include damage, and other features that were never originally mentioned that are now being added.

You can almost see slight incompetence when you hear Kaz say online is not going to be what was originally mentioned, WTF? you've been working on this forever. To me again it looks like they tried to equal what others have and are falling a little short, like MJ on the Wizards, sad really. But hey that's what having both systems is for. I'm being realistic and will get any decent racing game that comes out because honestly GT might not be as good as I remember in the face of a lot of other good racers coming out, but at least I am willing to admit that instead of defending GT like I'm on the payroll.

 

[DK]

Cool swearing dude.

Believe it or not racing games can be enjoyable and not realistic at the same time.

Yeah. Mario Kart ring any bells?

 

[CodeRedR51]

I have said it in other post, but I think we need to stop giving PD a pass to do what they want timewise and gamewise.

Like anyone can do anything about it?

I for one don't care about the game taking so long to come out. Kaz can take all the time he wants. I would rather play a game that is complete and looks great, than a game full of bugs/glitches that plays like crap.

 

[The Jenius]

Like anyone can do anything about it?

I for one don't care about the game taking so long to come out. Kaz can take all the time he wants. I would rather play a game that is complete and looks great, than a game full of bugs/glitches that plays like crap.

I care because I want the game to do well, but within reason. Its like the USPS coming out with their new one rate for shipping package service. Its like its too late, FedEx and UPS have dominated this market for years and you took your time and now you want packaging when you had a built in network and reasonable time to respond, sorry your dying, same with PD.

I think people do things about it like hurt sales, and voice their opinion. The addition of damage proves the consumer has a voice.

If Kaz says its done then I can accept that and would rather have that and DL content later, that wait for features that can be added. If hes fine with it then so am I and I would like to play now.

 

[Cobra_NZ]

Mate, I'm 33 yrs old and have been playing GT in some way, shape or form since GT1.... and even I'm confused and disappointed at the state of play from PD at the current point in time....

Same here, 33 played GT since the very beginning. I rmember the first video on the PS of GT. I kept watching in disbelief. I knew it was going to be something really special, and it was. I don't know what happend since GT3 though.

 

[osrg]

Like anyone can do anything about it?

I for one don't care about the game taking so long to come out. Kaz can take all the time he wants. I would rather play a game that is complete and looks great, than a game full of bugs/glitches that plays like crap.

One thing i am absolutely certain of..... irrespective of the time taken on GT5, when it finally releases it will be far from perfect.

No-one has, nor ever will release the definitive driving sim. Why?????

Because no two people views are ultimately the same..... thats why.

 

[The Jenius]

I agree, I have bought every single GT, 2 different wheels, everything. But since GT3 it seems like they have fallen off. My saying his year has been "don't believe the hype"and what it means is don't take your self to seriously. This is what I am seeing with GT, they think they can make minor adjustments and claim its all for art and a car encyclopedia of sorts, and say they do all this painstaking detail but lack racing which is why we all started playing, back in the day, to drive our everyday cars and race cars fast.

I rememeber I couldnt wait to get enough money to to put a race kit on a car and see what it looked like. What happened to that? I'll tell you, they started thinking their purpose was beyond making a fun racing game, you can see this with so many artist, athletes etc... just make a d*mn game and improve it the best you can, nothing else.

If I wanted to know about a Model-T I would go to a museum or Bing it, I know its old and drives like crap, there is no satisfaction in not being able to climb a hill with a Model-T or whatever the h*ll car they put in there. "...and thats what grinds my gears"

 

[The Jenius]

One thing i am absolutely certain of..... irrespective of the time taken on GT5, when it finally releases it will be far from perfect.

No-one has, nor ever will release the definitive driving sim. Why?????

Because no two people views are ultimately the same..... thats why.

Exactly so why does PD think they are the ones to get it right like they are some almighty developer sent to redefine life itself with the ultimate game. They need to get over it and release what they have.

They are actually doing the opposite of what Kaz suggest their philosophy is, which is to mold and develop into an experience. They are actually trying to get it to a perfect point where there is no more improvements needed and then release it, backwards to me, especially if your product is done. The only REAL explanation is that they see a need to be more current with their features to stay relevant, it is very easy to see this honestly.

 

[Cobra_NZ]

I agree, I have bought every single GT, 2 different wheels, everything. But since GT3 it seems like they have fallen off. My saying his year has been "don't believe the hype"and what it means is don't take your self to seriously. This is what I am seeing with GT, they think they can make minor adjustments and claim its all for art and a car encyclopedia of sorts, and say they do all this painstaking detail but lack racing which is why we all started playing, back in the day, to drive our everyday cars and race cars fast.

I rememeber I couldnt wait to get enough money to to put a race kit on a car and see what it looked like. What happened to that? I'll tell you, they started thinking their purpose was beyond making a fun racing game, you can see this with so many artist, athletes etc... just make a d*mn game and improve it the best you can, nothing else.

If I wanted to know about a Model-T I would go to a museum or Bing it, I know its old and drives like crap, there is no satisfaction in not being able to climb a hill with a Model-T or whatever the h*ll car they put in there. "...and thats what grinds my gears"

Good post. I miss the good old days of GT2, without a doubt the best GT of it's time. All those cool racing kits. What happened? I don't need a car encyclopedia, I need a fun and interesting racing game!

 

[daus26]

I have said it in other post, but I think we need to stop giving PD a pass to do what they want timewise and gamewise. We look past the facts because we put Kaz on a pedestal, like when someone says an abstract artist is a genius because you can't understand their work.

Honestly this smells of PD thinking they can live on the GT name and give us the same formula. What they are finding out is that with so many outlets available to gamers that we aren't going to settle for some crap. This oversite and the rush to catch up is causing the delays, you can see it plain as day. And still players let him off the hook like oh he's just taking his time, thats BS.

If Kaz says its done, then its done is his eyes. Fortunately for us Sony knows financially what they have to do and are telling this demigod, to go back to the drawing board and include the features every other game has and quit taking yourself so seriously, its a game that we need to make money on and your artsy BS and sheer #s aren't working this time. There is no other reason to include damage, and other features that were never originally mentioned that are now being added.

You can almost see slight incompetence when you hear Kaz say online is not going to be what was originally mentioned, WTF? you've been working on this forever. To me again it looks like they tried to equal what others have and are falling a little short, like MJ on the Wizards, sad really. But hey that's what having both systems is for. I'm being realistic and will get any decent racing game that comes out because honestly GT might not be as good as I remember in the face of a lot of other good racers coming out, but at least I am willing to admit that instead of defending GT like I'm on the payroll.

Hey Jenius. I've never seen you before. I see that you're not liking how it is with PD and GT5 now.

Anyway, as for I, it's not about how we are giving a pass for PD to do what they want timewise and gamewise. As you already probably could tell, a lot of people are dissapointed the game was pushed back all the way as to March 2010 in Japan, and possibly a bit later elsewhere. But if you want to be fair, we can't just start getting our battle forks and start hating on PD. This would be like hating on your parents when you were a little kid cause you couldn't understand why they can let you do certain things or not. Then as you grow up, you start to understand. With GT5, that is how people are starting to react. As time pass by, they'll soon get used to it and forget about it all together. Then probably when GT5 is finally out, people can understand why, or not. It depends if the person is willing to want to understand, or avoid the truth/reason.

To truly understand something, you have to look for every possible reason why something is the way it is. That's not what you're doing. Like a lot of guys (and gals?) I've been talking to here, you're one of the typical who just starts feeling negativity towards PD simply because they can't offer a game in the time you prefer it to release, even though you're completely avoiding what PD has been really about in the past 5/6 years. I've already post mulitple times on this subject so I don't think I will talk about it again.

As for your third paragraph, you're contradicting yourself. You say PD is taking too long trying to catch up on features from other racing games, yet you say they think they can just use the same formula they have been giving us in the past. If they think so, why would they be working on damage, Nascar, visual upgrades, a possible G-Meter, detailed engines/cockpits, possibly weather, or even the possiblity of head tracking... all stuff that hasn't been in past GTs. There's a lot more than that they are trying to implement into GT5, but the point is they are raising their own bars, not just sticking to their same ones.

Kaz never said he was done. All he said was that the game is basically ready for racing and driving. But unlike what you said about them thinking they can just use their "GT" essence, the experience Kaz wants for the game and us is not quiet finish yet. As for releasing the game as early as you say and to depend on future DLC, to me is nothing but a sad attempt in my eyes to catch sales and possibly extra money from the DLC. I'm 500% glad they didn't decide to go that route and instead try to satisfy us enough with the original disk.

The more I read your post, the more assumptions I see. What makes you think Sony is the reason behind every feature that GT5 is to feature. The last thing Sony did was force PD into making GTPSP soon enough for the release of the PSPGO. This I know, because Kaz has said that GT5 is the priority over GT Mobile back in the day, and that they will continue working on it after GT5 is over with. Obviously things change and that isn't the case anymore. If one thing Sony is in charge of, it's marketing. As for damage, Kaz had plan that since GT2, from what I know, so not sure what you mean there.

You're far from being realistic. I see holes in every point you're trying to make. If I wrote an essay on it, I could write a novel (well jkjk, that'd be exagerating). You say you admit that GT5 might not be as good as other racing games out there, but would you admit the fact that you're not seeing everything as daylight? To me you're seeing what things seem to you at first glance.

I'm not a person who's scared GT5 is going to be inferior to other racing games. I just can't help reading everything you said and letting it go. Everything, almost everything you said in this post, is short of the truth.

 

[chepe371]

Nah, it's very PGR-esque. At worst, it's arcade.

It's "fun" so its arcade, far from sim territory however.

I found that GTR can range from arcade to sim to hardcore sim depending on settings, if you just wanna have a slam and swing fest around the gring its possible or if you want to meticulously lap signapore it covers it, graphics can be upgraded and depend on your machine but somewhat 'passe', if graphics are your deal breaker this wont seal it, but if you want the racing experience you got it.