Gay Marriage

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Swift
EMAD: It says love your neighbor as yourself. Do you want to marry yourself?

Hm. Well... fairly attractive, drives a stickshift, is a racecar driver, likes long drives down the Gulf Coast, shares my own opinions... hell, I'd marry myself if I could. I'm the shiz, bro.

Concept
What isn't nasty about a man fudge packing another man?

If you're of legal age, you can find me on AIM and I'll detail what I did on Tuesday and didn't find the least bit nasty. (Didn't expect that, did ya?)

(Though, to be perfectly honest, there was no "fudge packing proper" done... even though what happened would have probably qualified us both as gay men.)

Concept
Not only are you in for hell in your afterlife by choosing the homosexual route, but in the bedroom as well. Ouch.

I don't even know how to approach this without crossing my own far-set boundaries. Obviously gay men like what happens to us in the bedroom... things you'd think to be painful really aren't, and believe me, our orgasms are just as good as (or better than) those of straight guys.

By the way, it seems like you're secretly confused, curious, or questioning... maybe not your own sexuality, but of what the lives of gay men are really like. I don't expect you to admit that here or even privately to anyone else... you're the only one that knows the truth for sure. I will say that if you're sincerely curious, you should find someone who's gay to answer these questions for you. Don't write people off just because you have fears and prejudices about them. Find out what you need to know and then go from there. I'm telling you right now that you have a lot of misconceptions.

By the way, could we lose the "fudge packing" euphemism? It's not like you're plowing a bag full of, er, fudge, anyway. If you want to be mature about this, let's talk about anal sex, not "fudge packing".
 
BlazinXtreme
The only thing that creeps me out was when I was in high school and a gay guy hit on me, but the older ones typically know whats going on.

I will say that several straight girls have wanted a piece of the HondaKid in the past -- and have even physically asserted this -- and at no time was I ever "creeped out". Even by the girl who sent me an IM and asked if I was married. Even by the OTHER obsessive girl whose sole intent was to turn me straight (which is simply not possible, as would be confirmed by Swift's fiancee if he and I were a little more open-minded).

Concept
Straight people are normal. It's hard to not tolerate normality. It's totally different when trying to tolerate a flaming man who has his hands in the pockets of another man.

So I'm some flamer just because I'm gay, huh? What, exactly, do you drive? What have you ever wrenched on? What arbitrarily more "manly" things have you done in comparison to me?

Go ahead and dig through my wallet. You won't find any opera or ballet tickets, sad to say -- you might just find my Houston Aeros ticket stub, though. Sift through my MP3 collection -- gasp, no Cher to be found! Imagine that! Guess we'll just have to rock out to some Borknagar or Opeth instead -- stuff your little sheltered ears probably aren't "man enough" to handle.

By the way, did you ever play sports in high school? I'd love to shatter your world and tell you how many ex-jocks I've met who like to push their max bench weight right before kissing another man.
 
I don't consider gay marriage a real marriage, but I'm not against it. If it makes them happy, then why is it any of my business if they want to spend their lives together? Let them have the benefits that come with marriage.... I don't see a problem with that.


I see anal sex is being discussed, well a lot of heterosexual couples do that as well, so that isn't a relevant statement. Though I think 2 men having sex is disgusting and I'd like to keep the sight of it out of my mind, the point is that it's not my decission to make what people want to do in bed, and with who.
 
HondaKid86
I will say that several straight girls have wanted a piece of the HondaKid in the past -- and have even physically asserted this -- and at no time was I ever "creeped out". Even by the girl who sent me an IM and asked if I was married. Even by the OTHER obsessive girl whose sole intent was to turn me straight (which is simply not possible, as would be confirmed by Swift's fiancee if he and I were a little more open-minded).


That's one thing I ****ing hate about gay guys.... girls love them. Send some of those heterosexual chicks in my direction god damnit!!!! :grumpy:























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danoff
It's a discriminatory policy and I believe it is at odds with the spirit of our constitution (the 14th amendment specifically) and the spirit of America.

We have discriminatory policy all over the place, your point?


Ok, lets stop helping the poor, because we need to treat them like we treat the rich. Health care reform? Who needs it, let everyone get their own full time jobs with health benies. Lets let men serve buffalo wings at Hooters.
 
off topic but...dude, pako, i just saw what your signature says :)

if im correct, canada has a law that says you cannot preach against homosexuality in a church (something like hate speech to them) is that correct?
 
HondaKid86
I will say that several straight girls have wanted a piece of the HondaKid in the past -- and have even physically asserted this -- and at no time was I ever "creeped out". Even by the girl who sent me an IM and asked if I was married. Even by the OTHER obsessive girl whose sole intent was to turn me straight (which is simply not possible, as would be confirmed by Swift's fiancee if he and I were a little more open-minded).

Maybe I shouldn't have said creeped out. It threw my for an unexpected loop. But he was a confused kid and I don't know if he truely was gay or what not. Oh well I know lots of gay guys and they don't bother me, in fact I'm kinda jealous of them because no matter how nice I dress for work they can always beat me.

This guy in my office, Jim, has style nobody can compete with. Mainly because he buys really expensive shirts that I couldn't begin to wear because I would look like a wanna be metrosexual, how ever he pulls it off.

On another note, I found something rather intresting while surfing some VW forums. It seems that the number one car driven by gay men in American is the VW Gold Cabroilet. Why is that, I always came across as a crappy upgraded Rabbit to me.
 
BlazinXtreme
Oh well I know lots of gay guys and they don't bother me, in fact I'm kinda jealous of them because no matter how nice I dress for work they can always beat me.

I signed up for the basic package. I don't get the good hair, the nice clothes, or the sense of rhythm. I only get the hate crimes.
 
Concept

If it is a guy and another guy then I'd have to say yes. Extremely sinful.

Why does it make a difference if it's two blokes? Are they both being extremely sinful, or just the 'fellator' (as opposed to the 'fellatee')? I mean, technically, being on the receiving end isn't going to be any different whether it's a man or a woman that is on the administration side of things... so I don't see why homosexual oral sex is any more or less sinful than heterosexual oral sex.

Ironically, if you think that oral sex is sinful, you really need a BJ... :sly:
 
I'm not saying anything bad about them, I'm just saying the guy that does cut my hair is homosexual and I have no problem with it and I'm jealous of the guy in my office, also homosexual, who puts my style to shame. It was just showing I didn't mind being around gay guys and what not because I know some of you more then likely think I'm a homophobe for some reason or another.

I signed up for the basic package. I don't get the good hair, the nice clothes, or the sense of rhythm. I only get the hate crimes.

I know there are you average guy gay guys, the ones who just go about the day like everyone else. I know them too, but I was making an example with the ones with good style and how much better they are at it then me. I don't know a ton about the gay community so I don't really know what is what when it comes to gay guys.

Also with the VW I was merely asking a question on some stats I found on the internet. But I know not every gay guy drives one, hell Jim (gay guy in the office) has a Cadilliac CTS in this orange color. So not only is his taste in clothes supurb but his tastes in cars is also good as well, his car make my truck look bad :(.

And I would never discrimnate against someone who is gay, that's just stupid. Also people who try to pick fights with gay guys are just trying to impress someone, when I was in school it was always the punkrocker kids and the wiggers that tried to fight with the gay guys and I thought they were idiots for it. Just let em be.
 
I don't have any idea if that's true or not, but it shouldn't be a law, that's for sure.
 
Pako
How about you be the ruler of the inbred morons where you can dictate right and wrong for them.

Oh great argument.

They'd obviously put themselves into extinction without intervention, it's for their own good if anything. Just because a majority makes a ruling, doesn't make it right or fair.
 
PS
Oh great argument.

They'd obviously put themselves into extinction without intervention, it's for their own good if anything. Just because a majority makes a ruling, doesn't make it right or fair.

If not you to decide, then who?
 
Pako
If not you to decide, then who?

Ultimately it would have to be the higher power— the Government, either Federal, Provincial/State or municiple. Something would have to be done to prevent this heard of idiots from running off the edge of the cliff.

And Ten, or Hondakid or whoever else is gay:

Do you guys think that heterosexual sex is gross like most guys thing gay sex is gross? Or is it just because strait guys are naturally a little homophobic?
 
What I'm a 100% straight and I don't think gay sex is gross. That's just what they do, granted I don't want to see it because well I don't really want to see any other sex excpet my own :lol:. But ya they think it natural so no it's not really gross, it's just different from a straight guys sex.
 
PS
Ultimately it would have to be the higher power— the Government, either Federal, Provincial/State or municiple. Something would have to be done to prevent this heard of idiots from running off the edge of the cliff.

Statist! Fascist! :scared: RUN!!!

Pako
If not you to decide, then who?

Either the elite minority make the decisions (plutocracy), or everyone makes their own decisions.
 
PS
Ultimately it would have to be the higher power— the Government, either Federal, Provincial/State or municiple. Something would have to be done to prevent this heard of idiots from running off the edge of the cliff.

*snip*

Sure glad I don't live in a country under your idea of democracy.
 
BlazinXtreme
What I'm a 100% straight and I don't think gay sex is gross. That's just what they do, granted I don't want to see it because well I don't really want to see any other sex excpet my own :lol:. But ya they think it natural so no it's not really gross, it's just different from a straight guys sex.
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You're continuing to impress me in this thread.
 
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