Gran Turismo 6 coming to PS3
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Heavens forbid...no, just a very big NO! I would hate GT in the style of a Codemasters game.
If it's features such as race engineer commentary you meant, I played the demo for the last one and found the voice to be quite annoying.
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When did Red Bull announce they will attend?
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I get the impression from your post that you seem to partly confuse the Standard/Premium divide (as in the way cars are modelled) with the category or type of cars included.
Whether a car is Premium or Standard has nothing to with the desirability of its real life counterpart, nor whether it's mundane or top of the line.
People just ask for all cars to be modelled equally to Premium quality, all cars including the mundane variety.
So instead of thinking we all only want 'Premium' sportscars, most of us just want all cars to get the same level of detail and features, including the cheap and cheerful variety.
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The very last sentence of this article seems to confirm it?
http://www.redbull.com/uk/en/stories/1331589500638/gran-turismo-red-bull-greatest-gaming-hits
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Is anyone else hoping that they'll show off a running version of the X2010? It may be a bit far-fetched but hey.
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You don't mean he's.....lol
Okay well, then tell me how on the earth is it possible to know those kind of informations he gave us if he ain't working for either SONY or PD... Yeah, he may be some kinda spy sent by MS but... Please. Anyway, think it thru: PD doesn't officialy want to get us informations so they don't look like idiots when GT6 get delayed, yet they give us informations this way
Now come at me
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Not sure what to make of it,but I want to be that guest so bad
Edit: Great read http://www.teamvvv.com/en/news/comm...ions-the-game-Gran-Turismo-5-should-have-been
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Maybe it is. When GT5 was released, it had been rumored that Red Bull Racing had intentions to create a variant of that car for real.
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Okay well, then tell me how on the earth is it possible to know those kind of informations he gave us if he ain't working for either SONY or PD... Yeah, he may be some kinda spy sent by MS but... Please. Anyway, think it thru: PD doesn't officialy want to get us informations so they don't look like idiots when GT6 get delayed, yet they give us informations this way
Now come at me
Lol. If Amar is hired by PD, he's the best one.
Oh, and there must be more information, I always so hyped up everytime when Amar gives them out. 
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I would probably **** my pants.
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Which part do you think is justifiable?
The only justifiable reason I'm willing to accept is because people simply just want consistency and better looking cars, or those that are used to cockpit view. This is even stretching it for me because the standards doesn't look "garbage" to me as most imply. They look just fine for me and drive just as well as the premiums.
Taking away standards, in my view is taking away a lot of cars that we can drive. I personally think PD did us a favor with these standards. Quality over quantity is a mute statement. These standards are extras. It's not like we were going to have 500 premiums in GT5 had PD taken out all 800 standards.
Plus it gives an alternative to cars like the Veyron in which PD aren't able to model in premium quality whether it'd be time constraint or other reasons.
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They certainly don't look up to par. You can argue how nice you think a few cherry picked ones look just like I can argue how badly a few cherry picked ones look, but the fact of the matter is that they are outdated, in several cases obviously so; and they lack features that the rest of the car lineup possesses.
No they're not. You don't get the option to just not use them. There is no Premium-only GT Life mode. And Sony certainly never advertised GT5 as having 800 or so holdovers as a bonus.
The only excuse for why they might be "extras" is because of how feature limited they (intentionally) were when the game first came out in comparison.
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Features like bumpers and spoilers? Vinyls if we do get them in GT5? What's wrong with driving the car stock? It's not like all the premiums get equal treatment either in terms of features and customization. I also get that they don't have high beams or windshield wipers, but it's not like we don't have a bunch of premium alternative if they're so essential. A premium only GT Life mode can easily be adjusted in GT6 so that we'll probably have the option to truly ignore the standards for those that are really bothered by it.
And the extras and bonus? How can you know for sure that that's a legitimate excuse? I'll admit that I don't either with mine, but I'm pretty confident in saying that taking away 800 standards won't give us hundreds more premiums in GT5 or GT6, thus my point in saying that quality over quantity is barely an argument.
Also, why does it matter if they're advertised as bonus as not? My point stands is that we have 800 of the standards to use and drive. Who cares whether the intent is that they're bonuses or not.
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And Photo Travel and interior view and separate parts modeling for the damage engine; and when the game launched they even lacked the wheel customization they had in GT3/GT4. Many of them still look worse than they did in GT3/GT4 as well. And while you can argue that PD would just need to fix the various glitches we're coming up on 3 years now and they haven't done so, and PD could ill afford to have another picture of an Alto Works floating around the internet immediately following GT6's launch.
You might as well say "what's wrong with just not playing GT5" if you're going to argue that in response.
Because I can see how the game is structured and I know how the game was advertised. Sony talked up 1000 cars at every opportunity, showing off big 18 MP photos of in game assets that they (usually) went out of their way to say were directly taken; then purposely buried all news about the Standards to a post-processed 45 second video and a couple of vague interviews that were never clarified. Then the game comes out and you do indeed need to use said cars for a good portion of it; in many cases with no Premium option instead.
Fun fact: Out of 800 at-least-8-year-old last-gen assets, over 100 of those are duplicates. And that's not even talking the minor variations, where there in theory might be some reason to have them (Skylines), but PD never put any effort into making the variations distinct so in practice they are also just padding.
What good does the quantity do there?
I dunno. I'm not the one who made the argument that they should be treated as extras to begin with.
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We don't want to redo the whole Standard/Premium discussion again now do we?
PD won't be so daft to include a divide in car models again I'm sure, so it's irrelevant, it's a clean sheet fresh start which'll probably indeed mean less cars than GT5.
But if you discount the duplicates (both real life, regional and Standard/Premium) and be a bit generous with that, you'll find you can easily drop, say 150 or even 200 cars from the Standard list without really noticing it (unless you're really into same cars with different names).
Take into account a lot of cars which were current during GT4 but didn't really made a lasting impression ensuring instant cult classic status and know that there always are cars which won't be carried over anyway and you'll find the damage in total car count (if GT6 has roughly the same amount of cars as its main rival) completely acceptable if it means they're all modelled the same and having the same features.
I for one would instantly trade all 800 Standard cars for 80 new Premiums without blinking, heck, even 8 with a slight blink.
PD won't be so daft to include a divide in car models again I'm sure, so it's irrelevant, it's a clean sheet fresh start which'll probably indeed mean less cars than GT5.
But if you discount the duplicates (both real life, regional and Standard/Premium) and be a bit generous with that, you'll find you can easily drop, say 150 or even 200 cars from the Standard list without really noticing it (unless you're really into same cars with different names).
Take into account a lot of cars which were current during GT4 but didn't really made a lasting impression ensuring instant cult classic status and know that there always are cars which won't be carried over anyway and you'll find the damage in total car count (if GT6 has roughly the same amount of cars as its main rival) completely acceptable if it means they're all modelled the same and having the same features.
I for one would instantly trade all 800 Standard cars for 80 new Premiums without blinking, heck, even 8 with a slight blink.
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Dude, come on, this is GT Planet, The Real Gran Turismo Complaint Board.
Maybe it's because I've been a member since 2005 or earlier, but I've seen 'em all. One guy even complained that he wouldn't buy GT6 if the dumb bots returned, which was particularly odd to me.
So... just another made-up claim, then. Gotcha.
Analog answered pretty much perfectly, so there's not much for me to add, other than I too tend to gravitate towards the lower rungs, performance-wise, and seek to build them up into little goliath-toppling Davids. I definitely still want the variety GT is known for - as well as it's main console competitor, which spreads the variety a bit more evenly, even if it doesn't grab from quite so many far-flung corners of the automobile world - but that is different from wanting the same level of model quality throughout the car list 👍
If PD wants to push the digital-ownership aspect that they keep attempting, what with all the upkeep and details kept on our cars like the races won, distance travelled, and so on, I sure would hope they'd meet the industry standard of offering more customization - something Standards, in their current outdated forms, can't fully take advantage of.
Though they do.
And here, yeah, they don't. That shouldn't be an argument against keeping the gulf between the Standards and Premiums, though.
Absolutely. Let me just get that truck I need for the A-Spec series from the NCD. Oh...
Quick question; which side of the fence are you leaning towards with the PS3/PS4 discussion? I'm only curious because wanting to keep standards seems a bit hypocritical if you also want the next-gen system. Even if you don't; what's wrong with people not wanting to be stuck with car models that are now an entire decade old?
You're right; removing them wouldn't suddenly give us hundreds of premiums. However, since GT5's release 2.5 years ago, PD should have been able to build a few hundred new premiums. A careful selection process, using existing Premiums to build off of, and paying attention to which cars are used most by players (all of which should be possible) means the vast majority of the Standards, at least hypothetically, should now be covered.
You called them a bonus.
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Hopefully will get something new to moan about for the next 2-3 years.
Hopefully will get something new to moan about for the next 2-3 years.
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Roll on Wednesday...
Hopefully will get something new to moan about for the next 2-3 years.
Nah - we got something to argue about until the end of the year. Then we get something to moan about until GT7 comes along.
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Your arguments doesn't seem to hold any ground anymore. You're speaking as if I ONLY want standards in the game. I mean photomode and interior view? If they're so important then just use the premiums and ignore the standards. I'm speaking of a win-win situation. What's there to lose that standards coincide with premiums in the contents of the game? Does having standards in the game take away the ability to use the Premiums in Photo Mode?
What's wrong with playing GT5 for driving cars that look stock? Is it essential that all cars have to have external, aftermarket bodykits, spoilers and wheels?... not that the standards in GT5 can't have custom wheels or bodykits or anything. Like how they fix the wheels, the standards could probably have some more touches to it so that it'll look more like the better looking standards, unlike the Alto, including glitches. Just because they're not fixed in GT5 for three years, doesn't mean it won't be by GT6's release.
Also, no where did I mention about minor variations. I'd have to agree with you on this that having minor variations of the Miatas and Skyline is unnecessary, but this isn't even my argument. I'm merely talking about standards and premiums coinciding. I mean do you not know that even the premiums could have minor variations as well?
I never intent to brought up the point of extras to bring up an argument. It was merely my opinion and personal view (not how it SHOULD be viewed as), and you chose to counter it with reasons otherwise involving its advertisement in which I don't even think matters.
We can argue all day about PD burying the news about standards. Personally, I thought it was already said about standards not having interior view verrry early, but many assumed it was talking about the engine bay inside the bonnet and whatnot.... Similarly about the 20 track, 70 variation in which many of us were also in denial. But please, let's not even bring this up.
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Roll on Wednesday...
Hopefully will get something new to moan about for the next 3-6 years.
That's more like it, and yeah bring it on Soony !
I've got nothing to add about the premium/standard thing. But I agree with Slip that PD has had a lot of time to boost the premium count, that's why I guessed 400ish and why I'd be content with the drop from 1000 cars. It could be more if they hired a lot of new car modelers back when there were stories of PD increasing their work force.
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Based on the things we've seen (approx. 30 cars, 8 tracks) over the course of about 2.5 years since GT5's release, I assume that they have about 15 tracks and 50-75 premium cars to be newly added to GT6.
I assumed, they built more than they gave us and since they stopped giving us plenty of cars and even a track a pretty long time ago...
Let's say, there are about 300 premium cars in GT6. Wouldn't it be enough for a start? I'd prefer tracks and a broad variety of cars to lots of cars just to make high numbers.
Hopefully will get something new to moan about for the next 2-3 years.
Let's enjoy it for a year and then moan for less than another year until GT7 comes out ;-)
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Hopefully will get something new to moan about for the next 2-3 years.
Considering the lack of good official coverage, I'd say it's not a good idea to be eagerly waiting for the announcement or a presentation. Don't take one day off work just to read one GTP post with some event photos.
The only way people won't complain is something that's not going to happen: gt6 on the ps3 available right now, gt7 on the ps4 on its first year (late).
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Interesting, considering Jordan seemed to have a clue or 2 about the content of the forthcoming event also, but he doesn't seem to work for Sony or PD.Okay well, then tell me how on the earth is it possible to know those kind of informations he gave us if he ain't working for either SONY or PD... Yeah, he may be some kinda spy sent by MS but... Please. Anyway, think it thru: PD doesn't officialy want to get us informations so they don't look like idiots when GT6 get delayed, yet they give us informations this way
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Ever think that Amar may also be a Gaming journalist? Just saying...
Spy for MicroSoft? lol Im tearing up on that 1
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Like I said before, the problem with the standard truck can easily be fixed in GT6. How hard is it to fix the GT Life Mode so that we can only use Premiums for those that choose to in GT6?
I'm on neither side. I'll gladly take PS4 or PS3, but yes, if it's PS4, I'd have to agree with the standards taken out, for sure.
As for decade old cars? Not necessarily. As I mentioned before, we've had standard cars like the Bugatti and 2010 Jaguar. Standards can be an alternative for time constraints or problems that would prevent PD from being able to model the car to premium quality.
I don't have a problem with people not wanting to see decade old cars, but there are just too many iconic cars that I want to continue to drive. I'm not even going to bother listing which ones I think are so. I doubt though that PD would be able to model every one of them to Premium especially when he said that he would rather focus on newer cars.
To be clear, I don't mind having all Premiums, but just having the thought that if we're to have 400 or 500 premiums in GT6, that we could have hundreds more to drive if standards would coexist. I just simply care about the driving and gameplay. The looks, features, or whatever, it doesn't matter to me and I understand that it does to some, so yes I'll end it here. Sorry to bring up standard/premium argument again.
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