Gran Turismo 7 takes center stage in an all-new State of Play, arriving Wednesday at 2pm Pacific:

[soc123_au]

For all we know you could 100% speed run this game in 5 days, given that literally all they said about career mode was that it was similar to previous games.

Or you might not be able to. We really cant know as they didn't go into any detail. The more I think about it the cafe career setup has the potential to be quite deep and something a bit different from the norm. I could be wrong too and it's terrible. I'm happy to give it a chance either way.

Realistically any career mode in a car game is pretty much just a bunch of races you need to do. The only differences are how its packaged. GT Sport did a below par job on the packaging as do most games. Forza 7 carer mode was also just a bunch of races with no real goal other that moving to the next lot. PC2 was also a bunch of races, but well put together to give you the feeling of progression. The cafe sounds like it has goals in mind, just a bit different to the usual formula and not based on a traditional real world motorsport career.

 

[Scaff]

Wow. I never said you or others can or cannot talk about what you like / dislike. You are entitled to your opinion like everyone else.

I mentioned that this game / the presentation speaks to me as I can identify with that - as a disclaimer that I am biased and I might perceive the feedback in this forum as more negative as it is.

Let's see...

"Then I see all the posts here and really think that a bunch of people need a reality check."

"...then no need to buy it."

"But dang this forum is a negativity vortex."

...all the above are not constructive rebuttals to points made, they are digs and attacks on the people making them. The AUP you agreed to when you joined is quite clear that's not acceptable.

That was not about you, my friend.

It's a discussion forum, if it was specifically aimed at me or not is immaterial.

Apparently the 25 years in the industry or any moment in the company of any car or your role as moderator did not help you in getting that. Congratulations.

And back again with the personal attacks.

I will make this simple, follow the AUP when you post, which means you argue the point made, you don't attack the people making it. It's not a point for debate.

 

[ShiftingGears]

Yup. That’s why I envision me heading straight to Custom Race, as fast I can. I still want to play the way I want, hopefully, with the tools PD provide. Car customisation is a hit so far. Track conditions look promising. I’m not sold on the PD events.

I'm just hoping if that GT7 serves as a great platform for online racing, that I'm not forced to grind the career mode. At this point PD gives it a vote of no confidence given they didn't even see it fit to talk about it.

 

[Scaff]

Players proceeds to rip apart every last detail

You spelt 'discuss' wrong!

 

[05XR8]

I'm just hoping if that GT7 serves as a great platform for online racing, that I'm not forced to grind the career mode. At this point PD gives it a vote of no confidence given they didn't even see it fit to talk about it.

I can’t call it. Not sure if Manufacturers is still a thing. If it does make a return and players can get the two loan cars, that’ll help with jumping straight into Sport Mode. On the flip side, will licences be tied to Sport Mode or unlocking it?

20,000 Cr. Will pit Sport Mode players at the bottom. The players that ordered the 25th Anniversary editions, at least get the RX-V and Supra GT500 for higher Group racing. The 1,000,000 Cr. possibly comes in handy for a Gr.1 car. We’ll see.

 

[ArR29]

Good to see that the foliage are massively improved. They now have more diverse and high quality assets instead of generic looking grasses. But it's hard to tell at this point if majority of the tracks will have the same treatment.

 

[soc123_au]

I'm just hoping if that GT7 serves as a great platform for online racing, that I'm not forced to grind the career mode. At this point PD gives it a vote of no confidence given they didn't even see it fit to talk about it.

It's fair to say that online should be at worst on par with GT Sport. With all it's faults it's still imo the best accessible online racing experience available on any platform with daylight in second, the caveat to that is it isn't a true "simulator" and it never will be, I dont think that has ever been the goal.

Point being sport mode didn't even get a mention. Kaz marches to the beat of his own drum and is eccentric as they come. I think today was a showcase to pump the parts of the game that tighten his undies. I'm confident there is plenty of good stuff in there we havent seen any info on yet.

 

[KevinHeryanto]

Good to see that the foliage are massively improved. They now have more diverse and high quality assets instead of generic looking grasses. But it's hard to tell at this point if majority of the tracks will have the same treatment. View attachment 1111000

Well tsukuba received masssive improvement in grass density and shaders it looks like, so that one track confirmed to receive a massive upgrade in foliage

 

[KaiB]

It was a good presentation, but I was disappointed that none of the new tracks were shown.
Only 4 new tracks? Not enough at all.

If you pay attention they mention in the trailer they say that new tracks and cars will be ADD in the future probably for free.

The winning from most people its just to much.

I play Assetto Corsa and other racing games on PC and when i look and play or a GT game its ridicolous, all the small details and polishement and features this game have its just insane.

Yes some other games do some things better, but in terms of content in a single game, polished menus, community content, the looks and perfection of all small details its just to overwhelming for the naked eye.
Basically theres nothing compared to GT7 in the market.

Its hell fun to drive in some simulators, but GT the fun its on many other areas with so much visual accuracy, i spot so many bugs and visual defects on other games, and basically on other games need to have external software and ingame content its so basic that we cant even comapared them to GT.

Anyway simulations are more accurated in driving aspects but look outdated in all other areas.
GT have a natural driving feelling with beatiful looks, ingame content, just the small aspect that a casual player can choose how and when to race, in single player or online, the Ranks and all the other easy acess stuff, or if getting more serious look for a private league...

There are a lot of simulators but has a game to have fun with a natural driving theres nothing with the amounth of content and quality of a GT game...
Its understandable some critics but i think the majority just dont really understand the overall picture and the aim of a GT game when they try to compare it to a boring empty simulator that a family person to play needs to focus and lose time in sites for setups, leagues and so many other stuff that GT just present you with a press of a button and all can enjoy.

GT its a car game that aims for many king of players not only simulator focused ones.

 

[Purple101]

You're... posting in a thread created by an article on a game website that was a preview.

Just trying to make people aware.

I read some where the journo had been shown 1hr of gt7. Well. I have only seen half hour.

If your one of the people who have seen more have you done a post on everything we didn't get to see?

Or what's the website I read talking crap and he is only seen the same half hour we have all seen?

 

[soc123_au]

Good to see that the foliage are massively improved. They now have more diverse and high quality assets instead of generic looking grasses. But it's hard to tell at this point if majority of the tracks will have the same treatment. View attachment 1111000

Nearly 12 hours have passed since the video dropped and this is the first tree post I've seen. Ha ha. If they looked ****house I reckon there would be pages of them.

 

[05XR8]

Well tsukuba received masssive improvement in grass density and shaders it looks like, so that one track confirmed to receive a massive upgrade in foliage
View attachment 1111001

Dragon Trail looked so different. Plus, where is this?


Everything looks higher quality. I was getting lost in the visuals.

 

[Famine]

If your one of the people who have seen more have you done a post on everything we didn't get to see?

Gran Turismo 7 State of Play: Everything New That Was Revealed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLxwtaJqO9Y Gran Turismo 7 is just over a month from releasing on March 4, and Sony kicked off the game's marketing blitz today with a half-hour "State of Play" video dedicated to the title. Before the big show, we also had the chance to participate in a virtual m

www.gtplanet.net

 

[Scaff]

Just trying to make people aware.

I read some where the journo had been shown 1hr of gt7. Well. I have only seen half hour.

If your one of the people who have seen more have you done a post on everything we didn't get to see?

Or what's the website I read talking crap and he is only seen the same half hour we have all seen?

It will get out, you can see some more here in the front page article..

Gran Turismo 7 State of Play: Everything New That Was Revealed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLxwtaJqO9Y Gran Turismo 7 is just over a month from releasing on March 4, and Sony kicked off the game's marketing blitz today with a half-hour "State of Play" video dedicated to the title. Before the big show, we also had the chance to participate in a virtual m

www.gtplanet.net

... in the first video, however it's not a quick or a=easy process to get it edited and uploaded.

 

[ArR29]

It's not the same angle but the difference is huge.

 

[Greatbee]

View attachment 1111005

It's not the same angle but the difference is huge.

A massive difference.

 

[ArR29]

Nearly 12 hours have passed since the video dropped and this is the first tree post I've seen. Ha ha. If they looked ****house I reckon there would be pages of them.

Tbf, if they looked terrible or not up to standard there's a justifiable reason to complain about them.

 

[Zlork]

Dragon Trail looked so different. Plus, where is this?

@emula Comparaison, please ?

 

[xiimracing]

Actually the only thing that bugs me is that the used car dealership only gets refreshed "slightly" everyday. (Probably everyone has the same cars per day) I remember GT5 refreshing the used car dealership after each Race... Really dont know how that will work with collecting "all" cars & buy some of the cars more than once... Besides that there is nothing to complain...

 

[Destroy321]

If you pay attention they mention in the trailer they say that new tracks and cars will be ADD in the future probably for free.

The winning from most people its just to much.

I play Assetto Corsa and other racing games on PC and when i look and play or a GT game its ridicolous, all the small details and polishement and features this game have its just insane.

Yes some other games do some things better, but in terms of content in a single game, polished menus, community content, the looks and perfection of all small details its just to overwhelming for the naked eye.
Basically theres nothing compared to GT7 in the market.

Its hell fun to drive in some simulators, but GT the fun its on many other areas with so much visual accuracy, i spot so many bugs and visual defects on other games, and basically on other games need to have external software and ingame content its so basic that we cant even comapared them to GT.

Anyway simulations are more accurated in driving aspects but look outdated in all other areas.
GT have a natural driving feelling with beatiful looks, ingame content, just the small aspect that a casual player can choose how and when to race, in single player or online, the Ranks and all the other easy acess stuff, or if getting more serious look for a private league...

There are a lot of simulators but has a game to have fun with a natural driving theres nothing with the amounth of content and quality of a GT game...
Its understandable some critics but i think the majority just dont really understand the overall picture and the aim of a GT game when they try to compare it to a boring empty simulator that a family person to play needs to focus and lose time in sites for setups, leagues and so many other stuff that GT just present you with a press of a button and all can enjoy.

GT its a car game that aims for many king of players not only simulator focused ones.

What are you talking about? I just said there are not many new tracks, not mentioning other factors.
And even though new tracks and cars will be added later for free, the lack of tracks and cars to choose from for day one is meaningless to people who will complete most of the game in the first month.

 

[Nielsen]

GT has always been Kaz's artistic vision. He tends to focus more on the details and nuances of cars than in pumping out tons of tracks, cars, and game modes. He doesn't just do what all the other racing games are doing. Not sure why that still surprises people.

Person A: “This game is weird”
Person B: “It was made by an artist”
Person A: “Ok, my bad.”

 

[Scaff]

We have more than a few new members and returning members who seem to have forgotten the AUP they agreed to when they joined.

In particular this part:

• You will not behave in an abusive and/or hateful manner, and will not harass, threaten, nor attack any individual or any group.

That means if you are referring to people as fanboys, haters, etc. you are ignoring the AUP.

Argue the point people, don't attack the person

Posts of this nature have been removed from view. Those continuing to do so will see moderation action taken.

 

[Nielsen]

Good lord the moaning on this thread about what the game is or isn't, is truly epic. Have any of you played it? Have you experienced the new weather and physics model? If you already don't like it, or you're not impressed by it, then don't buy it. Stick with GT sport. Or move over to Assetto Corsa. Kaz has more passion for racing and the franchise in his little finger, than you have in your whole body. For those who are excited for this next step in the franchise, see you on track! Its going to be epic!

So you’re saying that people sharing mixed feedback and discussing their impressions from the presentation is unexpected? Come on.

 

[soc123_au]

Tbf, if they looked terrible or not up to standard there's a justifiable reason to complain about them.

True enough I suppose. My post wasnt a dig at you by the way. I've just found some of the tree discussion over the years amusing. Probably an age thing, it doesnt seem that long ago that the "graphics" on an Atari 2600 were impressive to me.

 

[okami11408]

My new wallpaper

 

[Guffaluff]

Just in case you were wondering about the cars, I noticed the S15 from the preview video is an already modified version, I thought it was what could come up after you customize it, there is also a customized Suzuki Swift. There are 420 cars in total in the screenshot

The screenshot is 20x20, so 400 cars in the shot. Still some omissions

I see a Porsche going through some puddles, nothing to suggest it's aquaplaning, it's turning on a constant radius, which rules out aquaplaning. Nice water splash effects however.

Can you post a screenshot of exactly the point you think it's happening? As the section on the 4K capture starts at 18:47 for Car Physics (the video doesn't run to 33 mins) is what I'm referring to above.



Note I'm not ruling out aquaplaning, plenty of titles have it and I would hope GT7 joins them, I'm just not seeing any evidence of it at the point I think you're referring to.

I actually spotted what looks like aquaplaning in one of the B-Roll footage. I uploaded a short clip:


The car twitches after driving through a puddle at high speed.

 

[ArR29]

True enough I suppose. My post wasnt a dig at you by the way. I've just found some of the tree discussion over the years amusing. Probably an age thing, it doesnt seem that long ago that the "graphics" on an Atari 2600 were impressive to me.

Yeah, I'm so tired of discussing trees over and over again when there are more important issues PD needs to focus on like A.I, physics, and career mode structure. But people seem to love beating the dead horse lol.

 

[VoidhawkRD]

Having been a Gran Turismo fan since GT1 (I was around 30 years old back then) I have to say I’m hugely disappointed.

For me Gran Turismo has always been the journey through the vast career mode. This was absent in GT Sport until GT League came along.

I had hoped and believed that GT7 would offer the largest deepest career ever. Instead it’s restricted to 100 races and limited to selecting a track and picking out a couple of races tied to that track. Absolutely pitiful.

I’ll still get it. It is what it is. But my excitement has been completely and utterly destroyed. I’ll have to approach the game in a different way and just create my own events. That fails to give me the progression I crave.

Flame me all you wish for my opinion. It is valid and just. Everyone is entitled to one. I just hope there are enough improvements in Custom Race to give me at least a little pleasure.

 

[Bigbazz]

About Kaz and the "why are you surprised" comments. I'm not surprised, just disappointed because I know what it "could" be. Specifically talking about the sound back in GT5 Kaz was convinced people didn't like the sound because it was "too realistic", from his point of view the new sound engine in GT5 was a feature. But really people didn't like the sound because the gear changes were instant and digital with no mechanical noise, the engine notes were artificial sounding, the ambient/reverb effects were inaccurate and players were comparing them to Dyson hoovers and Korg keyboards.

They have improved the sounds in every game and they are decent now, but they still maintain those old characteristics to an extent and I can't be the only person who felt the "sound" part of the presentation was maybe the let-down of the whole thing?

The visuals are incredible, attention to detail is all there, I like all the historical stuff and the cheesy jazz music, the photo mode is as expected the best out there, the weather and skyboxes appear to be leagues ahead of any other game. In so many areas the game is amazing, but the AI they have shown in the videos could have been pulled from Gran Turismo 3, the sounds are fairly mediocre by comparison with other modern titles and speculation but the driving physics are likely very playable and fine but far behind the dedicated sim games.

If the game comes out and has a positive response I will buy a PS5 and I will play it for probably 100+ hours , and I've already been planning upgrading my old G27 rig to the Fanatec DD. That doesn't mean I can't have a moan, some of the features of GT7 look amazing it's just the most important ones for my gameplay enjoyment have kinda always been lacking in GT. Ignorance was bliss in the days of GT4.

 

[MatskiMonk]

No, a lot of that would have come from one-shot events you can't repeat, rather than GT League. I've never cared to add it up, but I doubt that you'd reach 15m from doing everything in GT League just once.

1st place in every event once, with no clean race bonus or car handicap bonus gets you 28,785,500 Cr.

You could in theory earn 28m credits in just over 14 hours, if you had the stomach to go through one race 75 times. That's about two hours a day for a week (or one a day for two weeks).

To be honest, I made the point more to highlight that if people think the 'career' mode / GTL is too short, they shouldn't have too much of a problem earning money, it's not necessarily a point I agree with though. I think one play through is about 70 hours (assuming you win each race first time of course), though with bonuses 31,000,000 Cr. is a realistic reward. Playing though in order, but doing only enough events each day to get the marathon (and the free car) would take 137 days.