Gran Turismo 7 takes center stage in an all-new State of Play, arriving Wednesday at 2pm Pacific:
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Just mentioned cause its the reality, people forget how online impact all the decisions not the sinlge player like in the past.
I´m saying this cause probably PD it´s working in deals to ADD real tracks, online its what keep games alive, just suposing they are working on some real tracks so online competitions can keep the player base alive for longer.
Theres no more static releases like in the past, yes offcourse long time players are disappointed, and i just mentioned that cause it was in the trailer, i didnt gave my opinion just state what i saw.
Anyway several years have gone, i dont understand why theres no any new track real or not...
But the fact that they can improve the game overtime its actually a good thing in my opinion, if its free like in Gt sport even better.
But yes people are right, at least 1 or 2 new tracks could be at launch, my answer was simple and was not an exscuse, i dont work for PD im just a gamer XD
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Then why did Sport have GT Vision cars priced at 20 million each? In all of the footage shown so far this is also the case in 7, but now every single car seemingly has jacked up prices
Why would polyphony be demonstrating the japanese version of the game for worldwide audience broadcasts?
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PD has always shown previews in Yen. Do not be alarmed. No car is going to cost 37,000,000 credits unless you are using Yen. For everyone else, it will be 3,700,000. As mentioned before, just divide what they show by 10 and that is how much credits it will cost everyone not using Yen. Look at the used car prices they showed...there is no way a used car is going to cost that much.....
We cannot expect them to localize videos for a world wide broadcast.
PD has always shown previews in Yen. Do not be alarmed. No car is going to cost 37,000,000 credits unless you are using Yen. For everyone else, it will be 3,700,000. As mentioned before, just divide what they show by 10 and that is how much credits it will cost everyone not using Yen. Look at the used car prices they showed...there is no way a used car is going to cost that much.....
We cannot expect them to localize videos for a world wide broadcast.
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I consider the game's car culture component to be educational, which is fine as long as they don't put too much effort and time into it.
There is very little information GT7 can reveal about a specific car that you can't find elsewhere with a few mouse clicks in this age of the internet, so working too much on it in the game is kinda pointless.
I used to pay a lot more attention to these kinds of modes back in the late 1990s because you couldn't get knowledge anywhere else unless you had a special TV channel or a subscription to a good magazine. That's one of the things that made early NFS or GT1/2 games so enjoyable.
The only exception that would justify the effort is to hear what actual designers had on their mind designing their car, I hope they gathered a lot of thoughts from many people and that we'll hear a lot of new, exclusive stuff.
And I'm disappointed to see test run or qualifying mode excluded from the career events, I was really hoping they would at least add those and return to classic format of racing instead of overtake the leader in X laps thing. We haven't seen everything yet though, so a slim chance it is going to be good does exist.
There is very little information GT7 can reveal about a specific car that you can't find elsewhere with a few mouse clicks in this age of the internet, so working too much on it in the game is kinda pointless.
I used to pay a lot more attention to these kinds of modes back in the late 1990s because you couldn't get knowledge anywhere else unless you had a special TV channel or a subscription to a good magazine. That's one of the things that made early NFS or GT1/2 games so enjoyable.
The only exception that would justify the effort is to hear what actual designers had on their mind designing their car, I hope they gathered a lot of thoughts from many people and that we'll hear a lot of new, exclusive stuff.
And I'm disappointed to see test run or qualifying mode excluded from the career events, I was really hoping they would at least add those and return to classic format of racing instead of overtake the leader in X laps thing. We haven't seen everything yet though, so a slim chance it is going to be good does exist.
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It's not Yen, and it's not just previews.
No GT game has ever had real-world currencies. Every GT game has always featured prices raised by two orders of magnitude in the Japanese release (or reduced by two in the worldwide releases).
They simply reflect expected values of things. In the USA and Europe, six figures is what you'd expect for an expensive car, but in Japan it's what you'd expect for an upgraded turbo. In the USA and Europe, four figures is what you'd expect for an upgraded turbo, but in Japan it's what you'd expect for a car wash.
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I have just watched the State of Play vid and just checked this forum for the first time in a long time. Its overwhelming how much info and how many threads there are. Can anyone give me a synopsis and answer a few questions?
1. It looks pretty cool to me. Are most people happy with what they see in the SoP vid? Is there any whinging and complaining about how terrible PD are?
2. Are there any glaring ommissions or problems?
3. Does anyone else think the visuals look kinda similar to GT Sport? I'm talking PS5 here. Are the visuals really going to be a whole new level of awesomeness or just a 10-15% improvement on the already gorgeous look of GTS?
4. I do not have a lot of spare time and I am somewhat intimidated by the sheer amount of time that's going to need to be invested to unlock a litany of great cars and tracks. I'm not so enthused with the prospect of researching which of the 60 parts to be spending credits on for each car. I'm probably one of few people who isn't that happy about the return of part upgrades. I quite liked the simplicity of just upgrading performance and weight in GTS......Is there any option of simpler "auto" upgrades where the game chooses the best parts for you?
5. Tuning. This makes such a huge difference to cars' performance and handling in GTS and the great @praiano63 and others made GTS so much more enjoyable for me, but I do find the process of adding the tunes to cars to be quite painstaking and mind numbing. Any chance we'll be able to access or pay for pre-done tunes for cars. I'd certainly pay for that. They could have a whole little mini industry kind of like an Appstore for people like Praiano to monetise their skills and time. Charge $0.50 a tune or whatever. PD takes a cut, Sony takes a cut. Praiano takes a cut. etc.
6. Basically - are there any shortcuts to just let people like me get in and drive cool, nicely tuned cars without the whole story/campaign/career slow build model?
1. It looks pretty cool to me. Are most people happy with what they see in the SoP vid? Is there any whinging and complaining about how terrible PD are?
2. Are there any glaring ommissions or problems?
3. Does anyone else think the visuals look kinda similar to GT Sport? I'm talking PS5 here. Are the visuals really going to be a whole new level of awesomeness or just a 10-15% improvement on the already gorgeous look of GTS?
4. I do not have a lot of spare time and I am somewhat intimidated by the sheer amount of time that's going to need to be invested to unlock a litany of great cars and tracks. I'm not so enthused with the prospect of researching which of the 60 parts to be spending credits on for each car. I'm probably one of few people who isn't that happy about the return of part upgrades. I quite liked the simplicity of just upgrading performance and weight in GTS......Is there any option of simpler "auto" upgrades where the game chooses the best parts for you?
5. Tuning. This makes such a huge difference to cars' performance and handling in GTS and the great @praiano63 and others made GTS so much more enjoyable for me, but I do find the process of adding the tunes to cars to be quite painstaking and mind numbing. Any chance we'll be able to access or pay for pre-done tunes for cars. I'd certainly pay for that. They could have a whole little mini industry kind of like an Appstore for people like Praiano to monetise their skills and time. Charge $0.50 a tune or whatever. PD takes a cut, Sony takes a cut. Praiano takes a cut. etc.
6. Basically - are there any shortcuts to just let people like me get in and drive cool, nicely tuned cars without the whole story/campaign/career slow build model?
I missed those, and as I wipe the egg of my face, I will stand by my point, they do release things willy nilly, and then bung them in a class they should not be in , because they tied up there hands with insisting on keeping 4 classes of Race Cars and a dumping ground of Group X
As for unrevealed content, they showed exactly 400 cars in the screen clip and said over 400 cars, so there could be surprises,
So I hope your right
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I think it is important to understand that GT isn't a racing/driving sim. Despite marketing it as "the real driving simulator", it just isn't nor does it want to be, Kaz says it directly. GT is a game about car enthusiasm. GT7 is about inspiring the love of cars and introducing that to the next generation. It's more of a superhero game than a racing sim, the cars are the superheros. This is why the races are "Chase the rabbit" mode. The AI (other racers) are the bad guys who have to be defeated.
PD have built a game that allows you to create your hero and go on adventures. The intent is to build a bond between the driver and the car. They want the adventure to be beautiful. That's not to say that there aren't sim-like physics, but they will always be dumbed down so that your hero car can win. Race cars and highly tuned cars are usually terrible to drive for normal human beings. GT makes these cars accessible and fun, if it were a fully accurate physics sim, these cars would be insanely difficult to drive and frustrating.
I suspect Music Rally is directly targeted to new players that understand racing, but not cars. So, kids that are 10-15ish years old. Think about the arcade racing games that you have to hit check points to keep going. Music Rally is GT's version of this. This generation doesn't understand what camber is, let alone how to tune a diff, but they know how to race and go between check points.
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Ok so I'm at my wits end trying to find an answer to this...
The two graphics modes for PS5...
The Ray-tracing mode has 30fps replays.. but what is the framerate of the driving? It's 60fps, right? (because there's no ray-tracing while driving)
There's sites out there saying the driving is 30fps in the Ray-tracing mode?😢
The two graphics modes for PS5...
The Ray-tracing mode has 30fps replays.. but what is the framerate of the driving? It's 60fps, right? (because there's no ray-tracing while driving)
There's sites out there saying the driving is 30fps in the Ray-tracing mode?😢
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Hockenheim and silverstone confirmed.
I have a certain source. trust me!
and have you noticed something anyway? wandering on the internet I found a site that said gt7 will have 91 tracks why in the state of play trailer they became 97?
can someone answer me this question: is it my impression or after 25 years of gt have they changed the career structure? now we will find championships with the tracks .. not that there is a what has all the championships (sunday cup, clubman, ff etc ..) last question will the track experience play a significant role with the completion of the game?
I have a certain source. trust me!
and have you noticed something anyway? wandering on the internet I found a site that said gt7 will have 91 tracks why in the state of play trailer they became 97?
can someone answer me this question: is it my impression or after 25 years of gt have they changed the career structure? now we will find championships with the tracks .. not that there is a what has all the championships (sunday cup, clubman, ff etc ..) last question will the track experience play a significant role with the completion of the game?
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There’s no way gameplay is in 30. It would be a step back. It’ll be 60.
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Then maybe they should stop putting races in it. But they won't, because you're wrong. Get a time machine, travel back 25 years and tell Kaz his racing game isn't about racing, because I'm not sure he knows.
The idea of including the old checkpoint/time extension style of driving isn't a bad one in general, and tying it into music is a cute twist on an old formula. I don't see that it's necessarily intended for kids, but I do see some potential red flags for it being a mode that can also be taken seriously if it hasn't been implemented with care. The ~7500 mile record on the State of Play raises some questions.Music Rally is probably intended for kids.
But I bet Twitch/YouTube gets filled with drifting to techno in a tofu shop livery.
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I'm pretty sure both Jordan and I have covered this several times, in this thread, in Jordan's article, and in the GTPlanet Ultimate Guide to GT7.
Performance/framerate mode: 60fps across every game mode
RT mode: Literally only in Scapes and replays, NOT AVAILABLE IN GAMEPLAY and no frame-rate target given.
There's no "gameplay FPS" mentioned for RT mode because you can't play the game in RT mode. I don't get what the confusion is here.
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With the greatest possible respect, I've not heard such nonsense in quite a while.
GT Sports main mode makes such a claim blindingly false, as does the fact that for over half the series life span we didn't have a single 'chase the rabbit' event.
Citation most certainly required.
I've driven more than my fair share of both, and on balance, nope, that's simply not true.
Again, nope, not at all. quite the opposite in fact, I find some of the flaws in GTS's physics to be totally counter-intuitive making some cars harder to drive than they should be, something more accurate titles don't suffer with.
Insultingly ageist nonsense, and I say that as a 51 year old grandfather.
Liking GT as a series is just fine, acknowledging it's flaws is just fine, I do both.
Making up bizarre and unsupported claims to White Knight the series, well that's a little worrying.
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If I had a nickel for every time that someone in the past two days have tried to pull the 'GT is not a hardcore sim/racing isn't the main point' when (relatively light and incredibly valid) criticisms are brought up, I'd be an incredibly rich man.
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I guess I'm just not getting the outrage from a few users here. I know gamers are the most notoriously impossible to please people, but the game isn't even out yet and so many have already drawn conclusions that it's a disappointment because of some things they think they may have seen in gameplay previews? It seems to me that if this is the stance you're taking now despite having not even played it, you have already committed to disliking this game, and no matter how good it ends up being, you will stay the course.
The point I was trying to make earlier was that there is more than one way to enjoy GT. As a car enthusiast, the cars have always been the main draw to me and I have always felt very satisfied by that component of the games. If you are a racing enthusiast, I can see how you would be able to view the games as racing sims first, and car games second.
Please be aware that I am fundamentally stupid, but it does seem to me, as an outsider, as though Polyphony is taking the stance that anyone serious about competitive driving will be playing online against other people who are also serious about competitive driving. Hence their recent investments in Esports and Sport mode. The people who care mostly about cars will probably stick to the offline races in career mode against less challenging and more predictable AI so that we can continue to just rack up credits and buy/modify more cars to build our collections. Either way, however you want to play the game, you should be well catered to. I'm not seeing the issue with that.
The point I was trying to make earlier was that there is more than one way to enjoy GT. As a car enthusiast, the cars have always been the main draw to me and I have always felt very satisfied by that component of the games. If you are a racing enthusiast, I can see how you would be able to view the games as racing sims first, and car games second.
Please be aware that I am fundamentally stupid, but it does seem to me, as an outsider, as though Polyphony is taking the stance that anyone serious about competitive driving will be playing online against other people who are also serious about competitive driving. Hence their recent investments in Esports and Sport mode. The people who care mostly about cars will probably stick to the offline races in career mode against less challenging and more predictable AI so that we can continue to just rack up credits and buy/modify more cars to build our collections. Either way, however you want to play the game, you should be well catered to. I'm not seeing the issue with that.
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