Gran Turismo 7 takes center stage in an all-new State of Play, arriving Wednesday at 2pm Pacific:
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Since we will be able to choose cars in custom mode I'm also hoping for multi class timing and scoring.
Why?
Because I'd choose two each of Porsche, Toyota, Nissan, Audi and Peugeot LMP1 adding up to ten cars plus two each of Porsche 911 GTE, Ford GT GTE and, hopefully, Ferrari 488 GTE, Corvette C8R and Aston Martin GTE so ten cars in the second class of GTE.
If there is multi class timing and scoring then I would be able to race either an LMP1 or a GTE. If there is no multi class timing and scoring then I would only be able choose the LMP 1 class.
Why?
Because I'd choose two each of Porsche, Toyota, Nissan, Audi and Peugeot LMP1 adding up to ten cars plus two each of Porsche 911 GTE, Ford GT GTE and, hopefully, Ferrari 488 GTE, Corvette C8R and Aston Martin GTE so ten cars in the second class of GTE.
If there is multi class timing and scoring then I would be able to race either an LMP1 or a GTE. If there is no multi class timing and scoring then I would only be able choose the LMP 1 class.
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Question: Was there any information about penalties? Will penalties come back? Will they be working better this time around? But not hearing anything about it makes me almost fear that there might not be penalties in GT7 Sport mode either... 
If they haven't gotten it working and won't before release I wouldn't mind them taking their time to finally introduce a good and fair penalty system in a later update. Most small collisions don't need penalties unless someone uses it to gain a place over the other car, than penalty. Harder collisions should always be assigned to the one who punts, domino effect penalties should all go to the original punter. etc etc. Brakechecks not in line with the average brake points for a corner need to be penalized as well. pushing someone off track, penalty of course, and bigger penalty if it's on a straight cause that's simply just unacceptable.
If they haven't gotten it working and won't before release I wouldn't mind them taking their time to finally introduce a good and fair penalty system in a later update. Most small collisions don't need penalties unless someone uses it to gain a place over the other car, than penalty. Harder collisions should always be assigned to the one who punts, domino effect penalties should all go to the original punter. etc etc. Brakechecks not in line with the average brake points for a corner need to be penalized as well. pushing someone off track, penalty of course, and bigger penalty if it's on a straight cause that's simply just unacceptable.
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There are many things I like about the GT7. This car culture, graphics, attention to detail, etc.
But there are a few cons that I have to mention here that make the GT7 lose a lot in my eyes. I could say that after State of Play I am both excited and a bit irritated at the same time.
Cons that come to my mind right after watching:
As I mentioned, I am also happy that the next installment of the cult game is coming out, and at the same time I'm sad that it will not deliver as it should.
But there are a few cons that I have to mention here that make the GT7 lose a lot in my eyes. I could say that after State of Play I am both excited and a bit irritated at the same time.
Cons that come to my mind right after watching:
- no track creator,
- no B-Spec mode,
- practically zero information on improving the car's driving with the steering wheel,
- many cars are simply modified versions of the same model,
- we get 1 new real Daytona track, which is simply too little, (with having such cooperation with the FIA)
- apart from the graphic aspects, the PS5 version does not get anything more (bigger car grids, for example, etc.),
As I mentioned, I am also happy that the next installment of the cult game is coming out, and at the same time I'm sad that it will not deliver as it should.
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Perhaps to make room for some other Japanese circuits in that region?
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I believe this has already been mentioned here, anyway, for me, the previous interface was better in terms of practicality and usability, because in addition to being less polluted, it showed the icons with the writing of what each one represented above it, making navigation faster and easier, for me, an example of UI/UX design, now they radically change the concept, appealing more to aesthetics. From my point of view, artistic intervention by Kaz himself, not from the team member assigned to that role, which may explain the constant design changes as they seem to be banging their heads around to solve the problem. (theory)
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Thinking of the AI choices for GT Mode. Should be like the Single Races in GT Sport. The reward may be increase the higher the selected AI. If this is the case, hope there is a trophy or different reward for AI choice.
The GT Sport Single Race had circles that filled once completed, but no reward given. Good opportunity to offer incentives for choosing more competitive AI.
The GT Sport Single Race had circles that filled once completed, but no reward given. Good opportunity to offer incentives for choosing more competitive AI.
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You are absolutely right @delsol456
. The size of the garage is directly correlated with the collectors level.
. The size of the garage is directly correlated with the collectors level.
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I really hope that can we select a difficulty for the "GTleague" equivalent of GT7. Everything in GTS is so dumbed down it's infuriating. If you look at the parameters for the races, even the "Endurance league" : No damage, No penalties, No track limits, Sliptstream "Weak" when they have a "Realistic" setting that simulates dirty air...
People shouldn't be surprised when the press give again a lower rating than Forza if the racing ends up being boring.
People shouldn't be surprised when the press give again a lower rating than Forza if the racing ends up being boring.
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Next up: GT Academy for mechanics.
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Current title of the game is The Real Driving Simulator ! It literally say Driving not racing ! Is it a racing game maybe but with Music Rally and tuning is more driving than racing. To be fair GTS is a racing game and a very good racing game as the online experience is better than ACC, PCars 2 etc because of the fast match making and putting you in a lobby in a matter of minutes and Match Making is really good you can have fun always race against same type of drivers and ones you are up to S safety racing you can enjoy some amazing racing. However I want to argue that real racing is not the point of Gran Turismo as for example the Gr. 3 Gr. 4 cars are full with non existing cars and BoP is marginal at best. FF cars dominating both groups is so not fun. With that in mind I look forward to GT7 mostly because I bought my PS5 for it and because somehow I want a back to basics experience on collecting cars, cycling through used cars dealerships and selling cars to be able to afford that used cars vintage car in a wired colour to call my own. Also Tom's Supra.
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I'm going to quote PD...
"GT7 contains a variety of fun activities other than the many races that represent the core of the experience."
...PD state, on the official website, for GT7, that the core of the experience lies in races.
On-line or single player, It's a racing game.
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"The Real Driving Simulator" has been GT's main tagline since 1996. I do not understand why everyone and their grandmother's parakeet suddenly wants to argue the minutiae of what does and doesn't constitute racing. It's both ridiculous and profoundly delusional.
It's a racing game. Full stop.
Oh, and if GT7 isn't a racing game (whatever that means) then neither is GT Sport. The multiplayer games were simply you driving with your friends. All of the esports competitions? Drive offs. No one was vying for first place or anything of the sort, because why would you? It isn't a racing game.
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... and pretty much the only places you can drive your cars in the game happen to be race tracks. 
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Excuse me, I think you mean drivetracks.... and pretty much the only places you can drive your cars in the game happen to be race tracks.
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The PS Store uses “Driving & Racing” as a single category for every game that falls under that umbrella. Perhaps it’s best to acknowledge that GT is both.
License Centre and Circuit Experience are all about driving. Mission Challenge balances on the line between driving and racing. Regulated campaign events / championships and similar lean most on the racing side, although the “chase the rabbit” format has done a terrible impression of actual racing. Online multiplayer can provide a proper racing experience. Sport Mode is e-sport racing.
To me it seems like an evenly mixed bag. Saying it’s a racing game is disregard for GT’s emphasis on game modes that revolve entirely around managing vehicle dynamics. Saying it’s a driving game is controversial, as much of the action takes place on racing circuits and often in a competitive environment between opponent cars.
License Centre and Circuit Experience are all about driving. Mission Challenge balances on the line between driving and racing. Regulated campaign events / championships and similar lean most on the racing side, although the “chase the rabbit” format has done a terrible impression of actual racing. Online multiplayer can provide a proper racing experience. Sport Mode is e-sport racing.
To me it seems like an evenly mixed bag. Saying it’s a racing game is disregard for GT’s emphasis on game modes that revolve entirely around managing vehicle dynamics. Saying it’s a driving game is controversial, as much of the action takes place on racing circuits and often in a competitive environment between opponent cars.
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Piloting a car is driving. A race car driver, drives the race car. We’re playing a game that simulates driving. We drive, wether racing or accelerating, coasting or braking for a few seconds and quitting. Making the car move is driving. Players can drive around just to satisfy the daily workout. They can also choose to drive a car competitively, to race against a clock or against AI or versus real people. Or drive around making YouTube videos, solo or with friends. Most of the game is racing, because we’re racing against a clock. Everyone who knows GT is. Racing game, are saying the same thing.
People that question this, must be the new players Kaz is trying to reach.
PD are not going to drop “The Real Driving Simulator”.
People that question this, must be the new players Kaz is trying to reach.
PD are not going to drop “The Real Driving Simulator”.
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It's like everyone forgets the license tests teach you basic and advanced racing techniques.
You know what? Euro/American Truck Simulator are now racing games.
From this point on, you can no longer compare Gran Turismo to any racing sim. It's not a racing game, right? So the comparison would be between two different genres. Congrats, you guys, you've put an end to this utterly foolish "war" between games when the reality is (apparently) Gran Turismo isn't competing with any other game with cars on the market.
Oh joyous day.
You know what? Euro/American Truck Simulator are now racing games.
From this point on, you can no longer compare Gran Turismo to any racing sim. It's not a racing game, right? So the comparison would be between two different genres. Congrats, you guys, you've put an end to this utterly foolish "war" between games when the reality is (apparently) Gran Turismo isn't competing with any other game with cars on the market.
Oh joyous day.
You are arguing that without winning races you can't build a collection but GTS literally give you cars for driving 40 km's a day. I only won 15 races (6 of them in the past 1 week) in GT sport but have hefty car collections so no it's not a racing game at least not a racing game where you are awarded for actually winning races Online which GT Sport was supposed to be all about. Imagine what will be the case with GT7 again building collection with only Driving whenever you finish in that grid at the end. So I can argue is far from racing game since race results don't really matter except for the very few aliens in this game who do something like FIA world championship and so on. Sure driving on tracks can be considered racing but if you are not winning is not exactly racing as I see it GTS gives you participation trophy every day you did 40 km's of driving (not racing) as you can finish that off in time trial without even driving fast.
Is it racing when I'm doing time attack on my local track ? Or doing an HPDE type of event ? I guess you can call it that but it's not exactly the same. And no I'm not new player to the franchise but I can argue that in GT Sport the goal to win is very poorly represented. You win around 30-50 000 Credits when you win a daily race and if you are average (I'm way over the bottom half considering my driver rating and times) and still win ones every blue moon. I wouldn't call that racing. At least not on the same level as in ACC, PCars 2 or iRacing. Will I buy GT7 yes do I expected to change so I can win more races or AI to improve hell no. I literally want the original GT experience same as 1997 please.
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