SavageEvil
I have been around for some time now, but thanks, anyway!
Same mistakes eh, would you care to elaborate on that point.
I think someone mentioned it before, the GT4-demo (or GT4Prologue) featured different (and better) sounds ... and then they re-used the old ones for GT4.
It's not like GT4 sounds like nothing before ... it still is the best game to get, I agree with that.
Then this HD-trailer - and the same samples, again. I don't really care if it's the PS2 screwing up, the PS3 should be able to do better. And still you can tell just by listening that it's GT4.
I know, I know, it
is GT4, just 1980x1080 and a demo etc.
I do know that GT4, keeping in mind that the PS2 with it's RISC-CPU isn't really state-of-the-art compared to the 'Box, still has to be considered a miracle (remember RR5! looks today like it can't be a PS2 game compared to GT4) ... but i did expect a bit more than just a tweaked GT4 in HD.
It's my fault for expecting
too much, getting home in the afternoon and being all crazy for the new trailer and screenshots - and then seeing "just" GT4.
Sorry for that but I was so disappointed after that vid, my apologies!
1.Why don't the cars have reverse lights when they go backwards? Probably because PD missed that little detail, but does it change your experience, probably not.
It's a detail that I still miss, even more since Kazunori is a petrolhead himself.
Enthusia hasn't got 'em either, but i would love to see that ... (Enthusia, however, has warning lights if you pause the game ... i like such details ^^*)
2.Why are there the same 2000? year old sound samples since GT1? Man are you drunk, none of the sound samples in GT3 or 4 are from the playstation versions, as a matter of fact GT4's sounds are all new, the problem is that the sample rate which they were recorded, the PS2 cannot handle them, so they are basically brought down to PS2 sound processor levels, which affected the quality greatly. Cheap tire squeal sound? Hey i suggest you get yourself a better sound system, GT4's tire squeals are quite different, especially when you go from standard to racing tires, ever heard of road noise?.
Take out GT3 and GT4 and compare the engine-sounds... there are new ones, like the Amemiya RX-7 - but then there's a huge bunch of ones that were in GT3 .... and after 4 years it would be nice to have new ones.
There might be improved versions of some of the GT3 samples, but I still want better ones - I'm still hoping that GT5 will make it better. If it takes more time, no prob, I can wait till 2008. ^^
Don't assume that everyone that plays GT4 and praises it is a mindless fanboy, sorry not this individual. I love the game for what it is, and hands down it is the more complete package than any other game out there, you want super cars, you got it, you want econo boxes, there you go, middle of the road cars...almost every type of car is represented in GT4. Even though it's physics aren't as great as other games, they give you a sense of what driving is like, which is essentially Kaz's aim.
Sorry if you got me wrong, I didn't want to say that everyone who praises the game is a fanboy.
It's just that not loving them isn't bashing them, either. I was expecting too much and was disappointed ... should have waited a bit longer and post then, heh ...
What else do you think GT should be about that GT series hasn't attempted to implement whole heartedly, please feel free to digress, we ain't charging you per letter typed.
Having done over 24.000 km in A-SPEC, I spent more time alone on the track than racing other cars - and, having just 8% to go until 100%, it doesn't look like I will get the intense bumper-to-bumper racing in GT4 I was hoping for.
It's called the "Real Driving Simulator", and it does well in just being the best game to drive a car around a track, but I wanted a racing game and got "just" a driving simulator.
The AI kicks you off-track, doesn't care if you are trying to overtake and then there are these rare moments when you get "real racing" moves and the AI, for whatever reasons, doesn't destroy the whole "real racing"-feeling.
It feels like it could have been so much more - and that's what makes me sad about GT4. It
could have been ....
Again, I still love my GT4 and love to drive my Storm V12 around Motegi and then getting into the Honda S500 and cruising through Deep Forest.
It's just that having good racing is sometimes impossible.
With that said, please enjoy your time on the boards...don't feel intimidated by anything I have said, just know that when you say something be prepared for opinionated individuals to let you know what they think. Happy posting.
Thanks! I'm still impressed by the fair-minded way most people can talk to each other ... it's something that is way unusual the bigger a BSS gets.
the Interceptor
Good point, but there are a few problems. First off, they can't affort to make such a bad new GT5, cause the "blind buyers" only make a fraction of the whole cake. Secondly, there's honour. It might sound ridiculous to you, but I actually think that at least some people (including Kazunori Yamauchi) have the will to make a good product to satisfy customers (or at least himself in this case).
Don't get me wrong, I would buy GT5 on the first day it comes out, but I was a bit disappointed by the trailer ...
I think there's no reason to assume that Kazunori would put out a merely "clone" of GT4, but I fear that Sony might force Kazunori (and PD) to put out anything in order to boost sales when the PS3 launches.
If that would happen (which is very unlikely, but nevertheless,) and people would actually buy such a game, Sony might get the impression that they can get away with this ....
I know, it's very unlikely, but seeing how innovation is lost in the videogames-market, I fear that it might get worse ...
the Interceptor
What I was trying to point out was that too many people have lost perspective here. They get a game that gives them hundeds of hours of joy, and all that comes to their mind is bashing it for some details they don't like. People have got too used to Gran Turismo, so they get lost in details, rather than being glad it is there in the first place. Some guys just need to step back and see the whole picture.
I'll agree that I forgot for a moment how great GT4 is - and you are right there, I got carried away after watching the trailer and being disappointed - sorry for that!
the interceptor
The 1080p thing from E3 was just about showing off what the PS3 is capable of in my eyes. What we saw there shouldn't be taken too seriously, it was PDs try to show up with at least something. So, if you claim that GT4 suffers from too little computing power on the PS2, why not show what it would have been like if it would run on the PS3?
I actually do understand that some people are disappointed, and that also is a matter of what you are/were expecting.
Again, I have to agree - I can see now why they were doing this whole 1080p-stuff ... it was my mistake for expecting too much. But it's PD and GT, after all ... they tempt you to expect miracles all the time
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I would have loved to play the S*** of that demo. I was more excited over seeing the larger grids and the two new cars on the Circuit De la Sarthe demonstraition then I was about the Graphics. well, either I'll have to get lucky to possibly find a nearby game store with the demo, or wait till GT5 comes out.
I hope we can race like this.
....did you ever even play it?
