Gran Turismo Sport: General Discussion

  • Thread starter Formidable
  • 47,132 comments
  • 4,753,993 views
GT6mebe
You forgot GTPSP and GT5P. I quickly counted total sales to be 27 million. Let the average price be $40 = $1.08 billion. DLC + microtransactions could add around $50-150 million to that figure. Admittedly my mental maths were a bit off but the point still stands. The revenue PD have created is absurd for a first party studio and its why they have such leeway in SCE.
Click to expand...
Yet you're missing the main point, that's only if they receive every single dollar of every single game sold, and expenses go absolutely no where else.
 
ImaRobot
Yet you're missing the main point, that's only if they receive every single dollar of every single game sold, and expenses go absolutely no where else.
Click to expand...

You think I don't know that. There is a reason I said revenue. Its an easy gross figure to calculate. With the generously low estimate of SCE getting 50% of the revenue (DLC, digital would skew this higher, being the publisher and platform holder means larger returns compared to third parties), thats already $600 million on returns. To put that into perspective iirc the recent Operating income for the entire PS division last quarter was $200 million.
 
GT6mebe
You think I don't know that. There is a reason I said revenue. Its an easy gross figure to calculate. With the generously low estimate of SCE getting 50% of the revenue (DLC, digital would skew this higher), thats already $600 million on returns. To put that into perspective iirc the recent Operating income for the entire PS division last quarter was $200 million.
Click to expand...
Yes, I very much think you don't know that because you're adding up sales of a game at $60 per every game sold, and counting every bit of money earned from that as 100% their revenue. If you knew that than you've only literally made it clear with this very post.
 
GT6mebe
No I did not and no I haven't.
Click to expand...
Yes you did and yes you did.
GT6mebe
he company makes ridiculous bank ($1.5-2 billion last gen in revenue from GT games)
Click to expand...
GT6mebe
Hardly. Total GT sales were 27 million in that period. Including DLC, its not hard to see it come near $1.5 billion.
Click to expand...
27million x 60$ a game comes out to 1.6 billion, and you're also talking about it with DLC adding a couple hundred million more. That's how you got your range of $1.5-2 billion, by adding every single penny of every game sold(at $60 per game.)
 
Last edited:
ImaRobot
27million times 60$ a game comes out to 1.6 billion, and you're also talking about it with DLC adding a couple hundred million more. That's how you got your range of $1.5-2 billion, by adding every single penny of every game sold(at $60 per game.)
Click to expand...

He's totally forgetting that the companies that makes the plastic box, the disc and print the cover artwork/game manuals have to get paid, too. Then Sony takes a cut, then the licencees, be it cars or tracks, and eventually PD receives some money in the end. So while the sales do add up to 1.5 billion, in reality Sony and PD probably receive 60-70% of that, at best.
 
-Fred-
He's totally forgetting that the companies that makes the plastic box, the disc and print the cover artwork/game manuals have to get paid, too. Then Sony takes a cut, then the licencees, be it cars or tracks, and eventually PD receives some money in the end. So while the sales do add up to 1.5 billion, in reality Sony and PD probably receive 60-70% of that, at best.
Click to expand...
That percentage comes down even further when you factor in the retailers cut.
 
After some Googling the subject of revenue and profits, it would seem that game studios end up without about half of each sale. That gross income has to cover licensing, taxes, employees, basically all the costs to produce the game over the year or two/three/four it was developed. Only about 25% of video games break even.
 
queleuleu
Wish : A huge Campaign mode with lots of endurance races, tunning, daily cars, JDMs, fun...
Reality : HDR, eSport, FIA, the red color, scapes...
Click to expand...

Yes, considering the forum maybe a trailer done with different clips of p´revious trailers, a couple of cars reveals and more techincal talk, I think we'll se the pending news until TGS
 
ImaRobot
Yes you did and yes you did.


27million x 60$ a game comes out to 1.6 billion, and you're also talking about it with DLC adding a couple hundred million more. That's how you got your range of $1.5-2 billion, by adding every single penny of every game sold(at $60 per game.)
Click to expand...

Conveniently ignores my latest posts lmao. Nice try.

Tornado
Which is pretty hard to do if you're counting GTPSP and GT5P since they both started at $40...
Click to expand...

Balanced by GT5/6/special editions/digital
 
GT6mebe
Balanced by GT5/6/special editions/digital
Click to expand...

Prologue and PSP combined sold almost exactly 10 million copies. At no more than $40 per unit — and, realistically, a good chunk sold at less than that — there would need to be 10 million GT5/6 special editions sold at $100/unit to balance that out. Or, expressed another way, 10 out of every 17 copies of GT5 & GT6 sold would have had to been special editions at full retail price.

Europe got the mega-pricey Signature GT5 edition, but how many of the 7.3 million sales there do you think it represents?

C'mon man — just admit your original number was wildly ambitious. Unless you have a breakdown of the sales of each edition, it's just a guessing game.
 
Double Post but:
150 Cars, 17 Locations and 27 layouts...nothing new really. 145 Campaign Events? Same.

upload_2017-8-5_6-22-3.png

upload_2017-8-5_6-22-24.png

upload_2017-8-5_6-24-23.png

upload_2017-8-5_6-25-21.png

upload_2017-8-5_6-26-49.png

upload_2017-8-5_6-27-24.png

upload_2017-8-5_6-31-16.png

upload_2017-8-5_6-28-51.png

upload_2017-8-5_6-32-0.png

upload_2017-8-5_6-37-57.png
 
ToyGTone
Double Post but:
150 Cars, 17 Locations and 27 layouts...nothing new really. 145 Campaign Events? Same.

View attachment 664870
View attachment 664871
View attachment 664872
View attachment 664873
View attachment 664874
View attachment 664875
View attachment 664877
View attachment 664876
View attachment 664878
View attachment 664879
Click to expand...

There is reason for that :

Screenshot_20170805-104434.jpg

Screenshot_20170805-104438.jpg

From PSX SEA official website. Hence they said "games straight from E3 2017" which is probably the latest build isn't available on the event. So all content and features is basically the same as we have seen in this year E3. Would like to see more of the latest stuff btw (especially some content that is still locked...)

So... when is Gamescom then?

Also, happy birthday Kaz! Wish you a success and good luck!
 
GT6mebe
Conveniently ignores my latest posts lmao. Nice try.
Click to expand...
No I didn't. I specifically noted that post in the post right before that. You said that you didn't do what was listed in this post
ImaRobot
Yes, I very much think you don't know that because you're adding up sales of a game at $60 per every game sold, and counting every bit of money earned from that as 100% their revenue. If you knew that than you've only literally made it clear with this very post.
Click to expand...
Yet if we multiply 27 mil x $60 than it's 1.6bil. So you did exactly that. It was too illustrate the point you disagreed with in that post.
 

Similar threads

A
GT Sport dropping like rock on Amazon US
Replies
25
Views
3K
ExoticMachines
E
GTPNewsWire
GT Sport's Decal Uploader Won't be Available at Launch
2 3
Replies
82
Views
10K
JockeP22
JockeP22
GTPNewsWire
GT Sport Decal Uploader Now Available to All Players
Replies
9
Views
3K
BasherB59
BasherB59
RX8 Racer
Porsche Gran Turismo Cup Asia Pacific
Replies
22
Views
3K
Norrin Radd
Norrin Radd
Famine
Gran Turismo Sport End of Life Announced for January 31 2024
11 12 13
Replies
361
Views
67K
Famine
Famine

Latest Posts

Back