Gran Turismo Sport: General Discussion
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- LemonCyro
Personally, i love cars, and i love racing games with no open world or stuff like that. Just quick race with nice cars. What do I got on my PS4? DriveClub, that's all.
I know it's just my personal interest but, there was a lot of games like that.
PS: Hey, I just wanted to say that Gran Turismo never was hyper realistic, and that's obvious. And i honestly think that if GT would be a real sim it will lose a lot of its fanbase and players without wheels etc. The Gran Turismo series sold millions of copies, those millions aren't pro-sim gamers.
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Project cars, F1 2015, Dirt, and Ride are just a few, as others have said. There are plenty of racing games available. Are you really that surprised that a console that is peaking into its third year, doesn't have as many racing games as one that has been around for nearly a decade? Even taking into consideration the time gap that the consoles have, there is still a considerable amount of racing games this gen.Personally, i love cars, and i love racing games with no open world or stuff like that. Just quick race with nice cars. What do I got on my PS4? DriveClub, that's all.
I know it's just my personal interest but, there was a lot of games like that.
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- Johnnypenso
This is an oft mentioned but incorrect statement. No matter how realistic the physics are, GT has always given you the option of slapping RS tires on any car, turning on the SRF, TC, ABS etc. and pimping the hell out your ride to trounce the competition. There's absolutely zero reason you can't move much, much closer to realistic simulation and leave the driving aids on and have selected toggles for the noobs and casuals.
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Is it confirmed GT Academy is on PS3 this year? I've seen people mention it but haven't seen any source confirming it.
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No confirmation of anything at all GT-related, I think...
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@Imari Sorry I just don't get it. Read back my full sentence and tell me how you come to the conclusion that I told you what you can think or not.
You are entirely free to consider the game is in a preoccupying state; again I have no problem with what you are thinking, and the fact that our opinions may be different do not imply disrespect. If this needed to be cleared, be assured of my consideration; and should any of my phrasing lead to you think that this isn't the case, I have no problem to a address you a genuine apology.
Still I fundamentally disagree with your conclusions that GranTurismo Sport is bound to a delay and that the lack of informations betrays they are in ongoing struggle. There is nothing to suggest that they are beyond schedule at this point, and (from my point of view) an E3 fanfare unveil still fits into the disclosed timeframe. I'm not excluding that other options have been discarded in the running, or that no further news is coming in the interval. History repeating is not inescapable.
PS: Do not think GT Sport is a sure pre-order, actually I am waiting PD around the corner, and they better make sure to have addressed the flaws that have put me away from the franchise. Especially if in addition to a new compatible wheel a shiny new console is required to enjoy it in its full glory.
You are entirely free to consider the game is in a preoccupying state; again I have no problem with what you are thinking, and the fact that our opinions may be different do not imply disrespect. If this needed to be cleared, be assured of my consideration; and should any of my phrasing lead to you think that this isn't the case, I have no problem to a address you a genuine apology.
Still I fundamentally disagree with your conclusions that GranTurismo Sport is bound to a delay and that the lack of informations betrays they are in ongoing struggle. There is nothing to suggest that they are beyond schedule at this point, and (from my point of view) an E3 fanfare unveil still fits into the disclosed timeframe. I'm not excluding that other options have been discarded in the running, or that no further news is coming in the interval. History repeating is not inescapable.
PS: Do not think GT Sport is a sure pre-order, actually I am waiting PD around the corner, and they better make sure to have addressed the flaws that have put me away from the franchise. Especially if in addition to a new compatible wheel a shiny new console is required to enjoy it in its full glory.
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With four days left until the lax deadline of early 2016, it's safe to say the GT Sport beta is already bound to a delay, meaning PD for sure already is behind schedule on that project.
We fans pay special attention to said struggle to meet deadlines because in the most recent Gran Turismos the fact that PD is always behind schedule has ended up in them just releasing unfinished games. GT5 and GT6 were completed by patching the games, and for both that took two years since release date.
So, since PD is already behind schedule with GT Sport (unless they release the beta in the next four days despite not having announced it before hand), when we look at what PD has done when encountering that situation we think GT Sport already is in a preoccupying state.
edit: Just to be completely clear, lets say for example that PD actually releases GT Sport by the end of 2016. Well, now that we know they could not meet the first deadline (beta) that means the final release was rushed. When PD rushes games what they do is releasing them in an unfinished state to the meet the deadline, without caring at all about how good or bad the game is, to the point it lacks announced features (to be added two years after if that), lacks polish (huge framerate issues). and when in doubt they actually even resort to using PS1 and PS2 era content (sounds).
We fans pay special attention to said struggle to meet deadlines because in the most recent Gran Turismos the fact that PD is always behind schedule has ended up in them just releasing unfinished games. GT5 and GT6 were completed by patching the games, and for both that took two years since release date.
So, since PD is already behind schedule with GT Sport (unless they release the beta in the next four days despite not having announced it before hand), when we look at what PD has done when encountering that situation we think GT Sport already is in a preoccupying state.
edit: Just to be completely clear, lets say for example that PD actually releases GT Sport by the end of 2016. Well, now that we know they could not meet the first deadline (beta) that means the final release was rushed. When PD rushes games what they do is releasing them in an unfinished state to the meet the deadline, without caring at all about how good or bad the game is, to the point it lacks announced features (to be added two years after if that), lacks polish (huge framerate issues). and when in doubt they actually even resort to using PS1 and PS2 era content (sounds).
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Source : https://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-sport-what-we-know-so-far/
Source : http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/10/27/gran-turismo-sport-coming-to-ps4-in-2016/ ; https://blog.eu.playstation.com/2015/10/27/gran-turismo-sport-announced-at-paris-games-week/
April was never a deadline. This is only your personal opinion.
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It's actually PD's opinion, not anyone elses.
If you have a year that has an early and a late, then you can have a middle as well. Separating the months into 1/3, you get Jan-Apr as early, May-Aug as middle, and Sept-December as Late. Early is coming to an end. The fact that there is conflicting information between developer and publisher is worrying, and on top of that, neither has corrected each other.
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I never said that early meant April, but going off common sense, if you followed what I posted, would indicate that early is coming to an end and we are leading into the middle grouping. I said early is January - April if we split up the months evenly through an Early, Middle, and Late catagory.
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...and what makes you think your opinion on what constitutes "early" is any more accurate?
I find it more than a little convenient you were vocally dismissive about Drevet's comments regarding a possible delay – you know, the guy that's actually visited PD's offices, but are putting stock in the latest batch of FB PR answers. Quite simply, there is nothing concrete either way. Not that that's stopped you from sweeping declarations before.
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That's not true, and I'll ignore that you're implying that I'm still coming to my opinions based on no facts.
Firstly, that both Polyphony and Sony have not released any information after the release trailer.
Secondly, the Facebook guy has been very, very cagey when asked when the next information can be expected.
Thirdly, we are extremely close to the end of the time period that Polyphony specified for open beta release.
These things, combined with Polyphony's past behaviour on such matters, could very well lead someone to conclude that there's a reasonable likelihood that something is up. On the other hand, someone of a more positive frame of mind might dismiss all these as not important.
Neither is wrong, as we're all here basically speculating, but saying that there's nothing to suggest that they're not on schedule isn't really correct.
It fits into Sony's disclosed timeframe.
It does not fit into Polyphony's disclosed timeframe.
Of course it isn't. But prior performance is the best predictor of future behaviour.
Polyphony have done this twice now. With GT5 they dragged out development for a long time, and released a game that was pretty rocky at release (although by Spec 2.0 it was a pretty impressive thing). With GT6 they released two thirds of a game, and spent the next two years patching stuff in. Even "completed" GT6 is arguably a worse game than GT5 was, depending on how you value certain facets of gameplay and physics. That's the last ten years or so of Polyphony development right there.
I grow very, very wary at any hints that they're going to do the same thing again. I want them to deliver a quality game, and without jerking their customers around. This is 2016, and there are plenty of capable social and communications experts out there.
Sony and Polyphony are wasting the value of their biggest frachise by not using it properly. And I hate to see it because I used to like Gran Turismo. There are still some things I like about GT5 and GT6, when they're not annoying the crap out of me. GT has all the ingredients to be unquestionably the best console racing game, and probably the best generalist racing game period (in the sense of being something that can cater to a very wide range of people). But they're burning their goodwill, and they're making games that are flawed both in execution and design. It's frustrating to watch something that you loved with so much potential squander it.
IMO, both Final Fantasy and Gran Turismo have gone from being kings of their respective genres on PS1 and PS2 to average games that sell well mostly because of the brand. I hope that FF15 turns it around for Final Fantasy, and GTS for Gran Turismo. But both Polyphony and Squeenix need to sell me on it, and Polyphony isn't doing well with their current campaign of nothingness.
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I was thinking about it earlier.
Since I first started playing the GT Demo in 1998. The only theme that seems to be missing from the GT series is beach/ocean side. It would be a nice change from the hill and field tracks that GT has. The closet we have right now is Daytona, FL. After visiting it irl, I think GT just placed the track on Eifel and dressed it up a bit to look like real life.
Also, I kinda wonder what cities GT will choose for their next version?
Since I first started playing the GT Demo in 1998. The only theme that seems to be missing from the GT series is beach/ocean side. It would be a nice change from the hill and field tracks that GT has. The closet we have right now is Daytona, FL. After visiting it irl, I think GT just placed the track on Eifel and dressed it up a bit to look like real life.
Also, I kinda wonder what cities GT will choose for their next version?
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That is the PS Blog though. Only what Kaz says matters. GTPlantet taught me this.
And "early" means 'near the beginning'. April 26th is not near the beginning of 2016, in fact it is much nearer being middle of the year: 2 months to end June, 4 months back to the start of the year.
End of!
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"Early" means January to April. That is not my opinion, but what the word means.
That's PD's own deadline on their own website. April is and always has been the deadline. That is not my opinion, but a fact.
Why should we ignore PD's own words and instead choose to trust some guy on Facebook, or the PS Blog that has been wrong about the GT series pretty much every time? In case of contradiction, should we go with what the developer says or what with a blog says?
(In this guy's world we are all somehow always twisting words and the English dictionary does not apply when talking about PD, nor to himself as well as in the past two days he's been wrong twice about English words)
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