Gran Turismo Sport: General Discussion

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Good to see that during the car's color selection we can see either the exterior or interior in full screen. I didn't like that split-screen. Maybe we can change the view with a button.



Ah good spot. I quite liked it, but yeah, good to have the option.

I still hope we have some kind of 1st person 'wander round the car at leisure' mode...
Like Playstation Home (RIP) but just for cars.
 
Just a speculative thought..

What if the Copper Box GTS PS4 build was just the downgraded "PS4 Neo" version of the game? So they are already preparing the launch of the PS4.5 version of GTS..
 
Ah good spot. I quite liked it, but yeah, good to have the option.

I still hope we have some kind of 1st person 'wander round the car at leisure' mode...
Like Playstation Home (RIP) but just for cars.

It would be cool indeed. Something like that garage in Project Gothan Racing 4, where you could add multiple cars in the same setting and walk around.

Regarding this "car porn" thing (that I love so much in GT), during Kaz presentation in Japan, I was paying attention to the displays on the stage, and I counted 5 different "garages"/settings where cars were being showcased with the flyby cameras and in all of them at some point the car moves slowly.
 
So they are already preparing the launch of the PS4.5 version of GTS..

The RedBull interview suggests Sony kindly asked journalists not to ask or mention anything about the rumored upgraded console. I do hope E3 will bring all the speculation out of the mist. Supposing for a second that the thing mainly exists in order to sustain more visually demanding VR games; it would be particularly perplexing Gran Turismo Sport wasn’t part of Neo’s launch software party.
 
The RedBull interview suggests Sony kindly asked journalists not to ask or mention anything about the rumored upgraded console. I do hope E3 will bring all the speculation out of the mist. Supposing for a second that the thing mainly exists in order to sustain more visually demanding VR games; it would be particularly perplexing Gran Turismo Sport wasn’t part of Neo’s launch software party.
PoDi developing two versions simultaneously would explain a couple of things.
 
Just a speculative thought..

What if the Copper Box GTS PS4 build was just the downgraded "PS4 Neo" version of the game? So they are already preparing the launch of the PS4.5 version of GTS..
If they set it up so you can only play GTS on the new system only, for the VR. I'm sure the company will fail. I bought my PS4 expecting years of game releases. Not to play a few games and then buy a new system just to play game that should have been released last year. I'm tired of companies acting like Apple, expecting us to run out and buy the new POS. I worked 48 hours straight to get enough of a Thanksgiving bonus to buy it a year after release. I'm not going to kill myself again to buy another system a year later! I still don't even have a supported wheel!
Rant is not directed at the person I quoted.
 
The RedBull interview suggests Sony kindly asked journalists not to ask or mention anything about the rumored upgraded console. I do hope E3 will bring all the speculation out of the mist. Supposing for a second that the thing mainly exists in order to sustain more visually demanding VR games; it would be particularly perplexing Gran Turismo Sport wasn’t part of Neo’s launch software party.

You can be sure there will be a proper Neo version of GTS. It makes sense to showcase the hardware power with one of the main Sony franchises and one that is known to produce amazing realistic visuals. Sony always demand PD to showcase new tech, like 3D, 1080p, VR, and PD seems to enjoy this cutting edge things.

Also, an insider on Neogaf said that GTS and God of War 4 are some of the games which will showcase the power of Neo.
 
You can be sure there will be a proper Neo version of GTS. It makes sense to showcase the hardware power with one of the main Sony franchises and one that is known to produce amazing realistic visuals. Sony always demand PD to showcase new tech, like 3D, 1080p, VR, and PD seems to enjoy this cutting edge things.

Also, an insider on Neogaf said that GTS and God of War 4 are some of the games which will showcase the power of Neo.

Oh god, can you imagine the rage if variable weather was NEO-only? 🤬🤬🤬
 
Yeah, but Sony stipulated no extra features.

(if the eurogamer article is to be believed)

PS4: Time and Weather manually set by the user at the start of the event

PS4 NEO : Time and Weather set by the console on the fly

Same feature but handled differently depending console.

Just an example, of course.
 
PS4: Time and Weather manually set by the user at the start of the event

PS4 NEO : Time and Weather set by the console on the fly

Same feature but handled differently depending console.

Just an example, of course.
Separation of, or greatly changed features, should not exist on one and not the other. That would be foolish.
 
Also, an insider on Neogaf said that GTS and God of War 4 are some of the games which will showcase the power of Neo.

No. This insider said that GT Sport will use power of Neo for VR. And for God of War 4, this game will take advantage of the Neo for all.

I highly doubt that there will be a dynamic weather for Neo. According to Eurogamer, Sony doesn't allow exclusive features to the Neo.
 
Separation of, or greatly changed features, should not exist on one and not the other. That would be foolish.

The example given by Eurogamer on how features needed to be handled was split screen; suggesting a 2 player split screen on PS4 vs a 4 one on NEO was perfectly acceptable. Of course the number of allowed simultaneous players does influence gameplay, doesn't it.

Ooh, we're in a dangerous grey area here aren't we?

It sounds like it indeed. Really hope this gets sorted out without creating a huge mess.:nervous:
 
The example given by Eurogamer on how features needed to be handled was split screen; suggesting a 2 player split screen on PS4 vs a 4 one on NEO was perfectly acceptable. Of course the number of allowed simultaneous players does influence gameplay, doesn't it.
That is much more easier to pass off to everyone as that is just changing the amount of players on a local setting. A major gameplay feature that greatly changes the way one game reacts is different then just allowing more people to play simultaneously. Not only that, but it will create a virtual divide with online play, and for a game so focused on that, it would be pretty ridiculous.

This whole Neo thing is foolish, but these two situations don't exactly have the same impact at all.
 
No. This insider said that GT Sport will use power of Neo for VR. And for God of War 4, this game will take advantage of the Neo for all.

I highly doubt that there will be a dynamic weather for Neo. According to Eurogamer, Sony doesn't allow exclusive features to the Neo.

Isn't this the same thing?

Both Neo and launch ps4 will have VR support, so Neo will provide extra power for both VR and normal mode. The important information that we can assume from the insider is that PD is very aware of the Neo and is one of the studios that will make it shine. Why would PD use Neo power only for VR mode and ignore it for the non VR?

This doesn't mean that Neo will have features not available to the PS4, like dinamic weather. But you can bet that GTS Neo will have much better graphics, image quality, performance and maybe even some effects that will be missing on the PS4 version.
 
That is much more easier to pass off to everyone as that is just changing the amount of players on a local setting. A major gameplay feature that greatly changes the way one game reacts is different then just allowing more people to play simultaneously. Not only that, but it will create a virtual divide with online play, and for a game so focused on that, it would be pretty ridiculous.

This whole Neo thing is foolish, but these two situations don't exactly have the same impact at all.

Just to make things clear, I'm not suggesting that is how things will turn out. But reading the so called rulebook, you just can not exclude that it could happen. It's more about ticking the boxes than making sure there is equality in gameplay. Sure NEO could potentially handle bigger grids and not contravene with the rules too. On the point on time and weather: why has PD opted for an engine that lets you select the time of the day instead of having a fixed one with baked day or night? Also we have seen daytime at different hours already, so if not realtime you could still qualify PS4 engine as somehow dynamic in the first place. Not going to speculate any further but sure you can twist the reported "rules" with a good margin.
 
Just to make thing clear, I'm not suggesting that is how things will turn out. But reading the so called rulebook, you just can not exclude that it could happen. It's more about ticking the boxes than making sure there is equality in gameplay. Sure NEO could potentially handle bigger grids and not contravene with the rules too.
I know what you're saying, and I'm saying that its a foolish route. Your reply to the comment as if to justify things made it seem like that's what you where implying though. I'm not excluding anything, just voicing what I think about the subject.

On the point on time and weather: why has PD opted for an engine that lets you select the time of the day instead of having a fixed one with baked day or night? Also we have seen daytime at different hours already, so if not realtime you could still qualify PS4 engine as dynamic in the first place. Not going to speculate any further but sure you can twist the reported "rules" with a good margin.
What I feel, if the reason is that they can not get full dynamic weather optimized well enough, is that more selection is better than none at all. They obviously still want it in the game, so they are going to do what they can to at least give you options to select as many ToD as you can. Its better than nothing if that's the case.

Forza 4 did not have a full dynamic ToD, and its track selections for time seems to be the exact same thing that's going on here.

No one is twisting rules, I have no idea what you even mean by that. What rules are you talking about?
 
I know what you're saying, and I'm saying that its a foolish route. Your reply to the comment as if to justify things made it seem like that's what you where implying though. I'm not excluding anything, just voicing what I think about the subject.


What I feel, if the reason is that they can not get full dynamic weather optimized well enough, is that more selection is better than none at all. They obviously still want it in the game, so they are going to do what they can to at least give you options to select as many ToD as you can. Its better than nothing if that's the case.

Forza 4 did not have a full dynamic ToD, and its track selections for time seems to be the exact same thing that's going on here.

No one is twisting rules, I have no idea what you even mean by that. What rules are you talking about?

He's on about the Sony 'rules' laid out to devs about NEO > PS4 disparity in this eurogamer article.
They're in quote marks cos it could still all be nonsense. But it seems legit...
 
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