Gran Turismo Sport: General Discussion

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Ok thanks for the tip, I'm just going to ask them on Facebook everything about the game, I'll be back in an hour with a detailed breakdown of each game mode, the full car and track list, the new previously unannounced features, the online modes, how the FIA championship will specifically work and a specific release date. I'll also have some new screenshots and a short video.
Now you know daggone well that would never work in a million years... unless you say the magic words, "pretty please? with sugar on top."
 
Those aren't the magic words. The magic words are "peanut butter applesauce fried monkey liver Nissan Nissan Nissan".

No, you're both wrong. You have to get inside the head of Kaz. What would be the sort of thing he would say?

The answer is, of course...

"Look for the placeholders soon in a future update. *laughs*"
 
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Asked them few days ago, when they answered my question they used "Sad Face" emoticon :P


I find that interesting.

In February, it was a "no."

In March, they hope to give new information about GT Sport. Let us hope that these details are resolved quickly.
 
I find that interesting.

In February, it was a "no."

In March, they hope to give new information about GT Sport. Let us hope that these details are resolved quickly.

At least they acknowledged they can't make promises instead of saying something concrete and subsequently breaking said promise...
 
But there was still no information for 5 months after the initial trailer.
OK I'm going to end this now.

You are quite simply wrong.

The very first trailer for FM5 was shown in the 21st May, two days late the box art was released via the Forza facebook feed, on June 7th T10 confirm 60fps/1080p, June 9th a new teaser video is released, June 10th E3 new wheel confirm, game is shown, open wheel cars confirmed, laser scanned tracks mentioned, new career revealed and FM5 forms a part of the overall XB1 E3 presentation (with a P1 on stage), and could be played (numerous demo pods) resulting in a huge amount of footage hitting the web.

As such a claim that no info followed the initial trailer for five months is demonstrably incorrect, and I mean its not as if we didn't have a thread here at GTPlanet that covers all of that.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/xbox-one-fm5-announced-update-see-first-post.281124/page-16
 
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Given the date most likely either Dirt Rally or AC. Could be GTS, but I would have thought that PD/Sony would have been more controlled about its release to the press than this.

Apparently if the below is true and correct the most likely publisher to lend a dev kit out would be SCE themselves:

AlphaSnake
He said a 'publisher' loaned him the debug. From the numerous 'contracts' I signed for owning a Sony debug, ONLY Sony is allowed to hand them out and forbid anyone else from sharing them with others.
 
Apparently if the below is true and correct the most likely publisher to lend a dev kit out would be SCE themselves:
That does potentially change things, unless another publisher cleared it with Sony (unlikely), but if it has come from Sony then someone may have just broken an NDA.
 
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OK I'm going to end this now.

You are quite simply wrong.

The very first trailer for FM5 was shown in the 21st May, two days late the box art was released via the Forza facebook feed, on June 7th T10 confirm 60fps/1080p, June 9th a new teaser video is released, June 10th E3 new wheel confirm, game is shown, open wheel cars confirmed, laser scanned tracks mentioned, new career revealed and FM5 forms a part of the overall XB1 E3 presentation (with a P1 on stage), and could be played (numerous demo pods) resulting in a huge amount of footage hitting the web.

As such a claim that no info followed the initial trailer for five months is demonstrably incorrect, and I mean its not as if we didn't have a thread here at GTPlanet that covers all of that.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/xbox-one-fm5-announced-update-see-first-post.281124/page-16

I was really talking about the first trailer for FM6 in Jan 2015.
 
Why should they supposed to be the ones that are communication with us?? The guy with the questions is YOU and the thing is when YOU want to get information about something then YOU should be the one who asks!

It isnt PDIs job to guess questions you might be interested in and give you the answers in advance....
You should be engaging with your fanbase in the first place, not the other way around. It's not in our interest to have updates and information provided to fans and alike about their upcoming game after all. It's been what...4 or 5 months since its (stealth) announcement? And we still barely know anything. The fact that we have to pull the answers out of some community manager is just sad.

SMS, Codemasters (Road Book) and Kunos have certainly spolied me to some extent in this regard and see no reason why PD couldn't have acted the same with the PitStop blog. But when you basically sell your game based on the name alone, I suppose you don't have to make an effort anymore.
 
That does potentially change things, unless another publisher cleared it with Sony (unlikely), but if it has come from Sony then someone may have just broken an NDA.

That what I was about to say. He has essentially given us enough info work out what game it is, with a little bit of guesswork and assumption on our part. Even if he didn't directly mention the name of the game in question, the fact they showed off a steering wheel in the shot really narrows it down to three games, (DiRT Rally, GT Sport, or Assetto Corsa), and if it is directly from Sony, it's possibly more likely to be a certain one of those three...
 
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I was really talking about the first trailer for FM6 in Jan 2015.
That's odd because I've mainly seen FM5 refernced in that discussion chain.

However if its FM6, lets take a look at that.

Title announced with trailer 21st Jan 2015; the next news followed on the 24th Jan with a new youtube upload looking at the link with Ford, March 6 first hint that FM6 will be coming to PC, June 17th full details of FM6 released.

That would be three days between releases of information rather than 5 months, and keep in mind that's 5 months for everything to come out about the title, not one piece of info and then bugger all for five months.

Source: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/forza-6-news-incoming.322427/page-18

So regardless of in being either FM5 or FM6 it was not a single trailer and then nothing for five months.
 
That what I was about to say. He has essentially given us enough info work out what game it is, with a little bit of guesswork and assumption on our part. Even if he didn't directly mention the name of the game in question, the fact they showed off a steering wheel in the shot really narrows it down to three games, (DiRT Rally, GT Sport, or Assetto Corsa), and if it is directly from Sony, it's possibly more likely to be a certain one of those three...
... or it could be driveclub VR?
 
That's odd because I've mainly seen FM5 refernced in that discussion chain.

However if its FM6, lets take a look at that.

Title announced with trailer 21st Jan 2015; the next news followed on the 24th Jan with a new youtube upload looking at the link with Ford, March 6 first hint that FM6 will be coming to PC, June 17th full details of FM6 released.

That would be three days between releases of information rather than 5 months, and keep in mind that's 5 months for everything to come out about the title, not one piece of info and then bugger all for five months.

Source: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/forza-6-news-incoming.322427/page-18

So regardless of in being either FM5 or FM6 it was not a single trailer and then nothing for five months.

I just hope that when it comes the server doesn't disconnect you too much or am I expecting too much too soon seriously I can't wait
 
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That's odd because I've mainly seen FM5 refernced in that discussion chain.

However if its FM6, lets take a look at that.

Title announced with trailer 21st Jan 2015; the next news followed on the 24th Jan with a new youtube upload looking at the link with Ford, March 6 first hint that FM6 will be coming to PC, June 17th full details of FM6 released.

That would be three days between releases of information rather than 5 months, and keep in mind that's 5 months for everything to come out about the title, not one piece of info and then bugger all for five months.

Source: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/forza-6-news-incoming.322427/page-18

So regardless of in being either FM5 or FM6 it was not a single trailer and then nothing for five months.

Fair enough.
 
... or it could be driveclub VR?

Could be, but he was being very critical of Driveclub further down in the comments, something I can't really imagine him doing having just been sent, presumably completely for free, all the equipment to review that game. They were quite harsh and unsupported comments (like "this tweet has more gameplay than Driveclub") and I would think Sony wouldn't take too kindly to that. A critical but well-argued view is one thing, sweeping statement like that are another (and don't help anyone). It would be a fairly good way of making sure you don't receive any more nice things from Sony, I would imagine.
 
So now that you have realised your incorrect assertions where do you stand on the diabolical communication of PD?

I don't think it's "diabolical" :P

As I've said before, Sony are presumably waiting until all the details are finalised. With a spring release, that's still a few months left.
 
OK I'm going to end this now.

You are quite simply wrong.

The very first trailer for FM5 was shown in the 21st May, two days late the box art was released via the Forza facebook feed, on June 7th T10 confirm 60fps/1080p, June 9th a new teaser video is released, June 10th E3 new wheel confirm, game is shown, open wheel cars confirmed, laser scanned tracks mentioned, new career revealed and FM5 forms a part of the overall XB1 E3 presentation (with a P1 on stage), and could be played (numerous demo pods) resulting in a huge amount of footage hitting the web.

As such a claim that no info followed the initial trailer for five months is demonstrably incorrect, and I mean its not as if we didn't have a thread here at GTPlanet that covers all of that.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/xbox-one-fm5-announced-update-see-first-post.281124/page-16
PD were more communicative about GT6 than T10 were about FM5 though IMO.
 
I don't think it's "diabolical" :P

As I've said before, Sony are presumably waiting until all the details are finalised. With a spring release, that's still a few months left.

What details though? We are waiting for a Beta, not the game. Get it out, tested, fixed and released!

Spring (northern hemisphere) starts two weeks tomorrow so I don't expect the Beta to drop right at the very end (mid June) because if so, given PD's history, we'll almost certainly be looking at 2017 for the release of the game proper.
 
Could be, but he was being very critical of Driveclub further down in the comments, something I can't really imagine him doing having just been sent, presumably completely for free, all the equipment to review that game.

He wasn't exactly super positive about Gran Turismo either:





One of his more recent articles is interesting as well:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonev...reviews-are-broken-and-things-have-to-change/

He's talking largely about the debacle surrounding Street Fighter V (and rightly so), but I can't see someone who holds those opinions being kind at all about GT5 or GT6.

If I was Sony/Polyphony, even if I had the utmost confidence in the quality of my product, I'd want my early review to be from someone who was more likely to uphold the great tradition of fluffing over problems in reviews instead of someone who sounds like he's primed to spit the dummy.

Or how about this:

I’ve been screaming it from every platform available to me: Pre-release and day of launch reviews of games with predominantly multiplayer components are not only wrong for consumers, they can be straight up misleading.

GTS is supposely to have what is currently it's main headlining feature be online.

I like the guy, he seems like a decent reviewer. He'd be a good choice to review something like Dirt Rally or AC. Or even a Driveclub VR experience. But Gran Turismo Sport? Risky if you're Sony or Polyphony, that's playing with fire.

Maybe you get a good review. Maybe he just turns around and writes "This is exactly the sort of PR BS that I've been talking about, and I hate that I'm feeding it to you in order to earn a cheque. So I won't." It's not like he hasn't done something similar before.

The more of his stuff I read, the more I hope he does have a copy of GTS. I want to know what someone with his views of the current state of gaming and the review industry around gaming thinks of it.

*P.S. Ironically, his prediction for the release of a complete version of GT6 was spot on.
 
He wasn't exactly super positive about Gran Turismo either:





One of his more recent articles is interesting as well:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonev...reviews-are-broken-and-things-have-to-change/

He's talking largely about the debacle surrounding Street Fighter V (and rightly so), but I can't see someone who holds those opinions being kind at all about GT5 or GT6.

If I was Sony/Polyphony, even if I had the utmost confidence in the quality of my product, I'd want my early review to be from someone who was more likely to uphold the great tradition of fluffing over problems in reviews instead of someone who sounds like he's primed to spit the dummy.

Or how about this:

I’ve been screaming it from every platform available to me: Pre-release and day of launch reviews of games with predominantly multiplayer components are not only wrong for consumers, they can be straight up misleading.

GTS is supposely to have what is currently it's main headlining feature be online.

I like the guy, he seems like a decent reviewer. He'd be a good choice to review something like Dirt Rally or AC. Or even a Driveclub VR experience. But Gran Turismo Sport? Risky if you're Sony or Polyphony, that's playing with fire.

Maybe you get a good review. Maybe he just turns around and writes "This is exactly the sort of PR BS that I've been talking about, and I hate that I'm feeding it to you in order to earn a cheque. So I won't." It's not like he hasn't done something similar before.

The more of his stuff I read, the more I hope he does have a copy of GTS. I want to know what someone with his views of the current state of gaming and the review industry around gaming thinks of it.

*P.S. Ironically, his prediction for the release of a complete version of GT6 was spot on.


I'll be honest, I had never heard of him before now, and it was just the impression I got from that Driveclub tweet that caused me to form my opinion on him. That being said, it would be interesting to hear, based on your post, what he would have to say about GTS if it also turns out to be incomplete/rushed/unfinished. He doesn't seem like the sort of person to pull any punches...

That being said, I don't think his Driveclub comment there is a terribly fair one. IMO, despite the botched launch, it's turned out to be my favourite game this generation pretty much. I would be interested to hear why he thinks Driveclub is so bad...

Edit: I guess another question would be how many other reviewers (and which ones) actually have access to this devkit and steering wheel bundle, but simply haven't publicised the fact that they have one due to NDA restrictions.
 
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We don't know the game, why it would be a NDA broken?

Something I mentioned earlier was the fact he's given us enough information to perhaps guess what the game is. It's a game far enough in development for advance copies to be distributed. It's a driving game for PS4, as hinted at by the wheel. It's probably, therefore, something to do with DiRT Rally, Assetto Corsa, GT Sport, or Driveclub VR. He says it was distributed by a publisher. If the idea that only Sony is allowed to give out devkits, then it's more likely to be one of the latter two games than the former. He's effectively said "guess which of one these four (most likely one of two) games I have a special advance version of that Sony doesn't want people to know about". He's practically said everything up to the name of the game, and has disclosed enough for us to perhaps guess any way. This is, of course, assuming the NDA is reasonably strict, and not that it allows you to say as much as you want outside of the name.
 
Something I mentioned earlier was the fact he's given us enough information to perhaps guess what the game is. It's a game far enough in development for advance copies to be distributed. It's a driving game for PS4, as hinted at by the wheel. It's probably, therefore, something to do with DiRT Rally, Assetto Corsa, GT Sport, or Driveclub VR. He says it was distributed by a publisher. If the idea that only Sony is allowed to give out devkits, then it's more likely to be one of the latter two games than the former. He's effectively said "guess which of one these four (most likely one of two) games I have a special advance version of that Sony doesn't want people to know about". He's practically said everything up to the name of the game, and has disclosed enough for us to perhaps guess any way. This is, of course, assuming the NDA is reasonably strict, and not that it allows you to say as much as you want outside of the name.
agreed NDAs can't be broken just like that :lol:
 
Do you guys think that with the FIA partnership PD will be able to Create FIA spec RM éditions of normal cars? For example an M3 can be added a FIA GT3 RM pack or a Fiat 500 can get an FIA Cup RM pack etc etc.

It would mean that PD could simply release an RM version with parts to enter real world championships. It also would mean that FIA could create a virtual championship for which PD provides the RM version.

Endless possibillities :)

It's pure speculation but imho it would be very nice to see something like that.
 
agreed NDAs can't be broken just like that :lol:

You'll also notice he's pretty much outright denied every suggestion aside from Assetto Corsa and Gran Turismo Sport. You would assume, therefore, that he would deny everything aside from the game it actually is, at which point you've worked it out!

Unless there is some sort of super-secret other racing game under development for PS4... sadly not a Daytona USA remake according to the comments. :lol:
 
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