Gran Turismo Sport: General Discussion

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Way too much power for Gr.3 and I doubt Bugatti would be happy castrating their car down to ~500hp to race cars not in their market segment. Should've been Gr.2 or something instead imo, perfect rival for P1 GTRs and FXX-Ks and suchlike.
 
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Way too much power for Gr.3 and I doubt Bugatti would be happy castrating their car down to ~500hp to race cars not in their market segment. Should've been Gr.2 or something instead imo, perfect rival for P1 GTRs and FXX-Ks and suchlike.
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A snowball would have a better chance in hell than the Bugatti would have on the track against the P1 or FXX.
 
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I haven't been able to drive the Bug in GT6 as I no longer have my PS3, was it that bad on track?
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If memory serves, the Veyron was about 10 or 11 seconds slower on the Top Gear Test track than the FXX. That should tell you all you need to know. It's not a slow car, but the FXX is in another league altogether and the FXX-K has a 100-0 record in whatever league it is in. The P1 is not far behind.
 
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The Bugatti Vision Gran Turismo is a much different car than the Chiron however. Similar overall look and drivetrain, but the VGT has so much more downforce than the road-going version. I think it would hold its own at Circuit de le Sarthe, and maybe at Spa, but may struggle to keep up on more technical tracks simply due to more weight, and presumably more understeer.
 
Yeah the VGT is what we're discussing here not that boat of a thing Veyron. I'd expect the Veyron to be rubbish but not the VGT which is the car in Gr.1.
 
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Yeah the VGT is what we're discussing here not that boat of a thing Veyron. I'd expect the Veyron to be rubbish but not the VGT which is the car in Gr.1.
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I have to state I'm not aware if the full specs for the Bugatti VGT have been revealed, though I didn't find much. The Chiron may still be a (heavy) grand tourer, but as you said, they're not pairing the road car with other VGT's. The way I view it, it doesn't seem crazy to have it competing in Gr. 1.
 
hankolerd
The Bugatti Vision Gran Turismo is a much different car than the Chiron however. Similar overall look and drivetrain, but the VGT has so much more downforce than the road-going version. I think it would hold its own at Circuit de le Sarthe, and maybe at Spa, but may struggle to keep up on more technical tracks simply due to more weight, and presumably more understeer.
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Wouldn't massive downforce cripple it at tracks with long straights and help it more at technical circuits?
 
Right about now, there should be a video surfacing about a Porsche being scanned. Something like the Bathurst video or a sound check on another car, with a Porsche in the background.
 
Imari
Wouldn't massive downforce cripple it at tracks with long straights and help it more at technical circuits?
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I think what he means is that there would be sufficient downforce at high speed tracks so that the car still has the superior top speed to LMPs but won't immediately lose its position in the corners.
 
gt6champnk69
I'm glad if we can tweak suspension, weight, weight distribution, and transmission
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I'm pretty sure that will end up in the game. Racing setup is a crucial part of racing. It might not be present on stock road cars though.

Johnnypenso
If memory serves, the Veyron was about 10 or 11 seconds slower on the Top Gear Test track than the FXX. That should tell you all you need to know. It's not a slow car, but the FXX is in another league altogether and the FXX-K has a 100-0 record in whatever league it is in. The P1 is not far behind.
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Comparing a Bugatti Veyron, with an FXX. That's new.
You act like the Bugatti VGT is the stock Chiron... In theory, the Chiron is exaclty the same type of car as the FXX-K and the P1 GTR, so that should be it's place. They didn't choose to do that, but with a change in specs, it manages to battle against LMP1 cars. Does it look a bit out of place? Yes. Does it hurt anyone? No.

Imari
Wouldn't massive downforce cripple it at tracks with long straights and help it more at technical circuits?
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It depends on power, weight, gearing. Since the car might be 4wd, this might compensate the lack of downforce that way (kind of like the Nissan GT-R), and then with a bit more power manages to get better accelerations. But so far, it's just speculation.
 
dacc10
Comparing a Bugatti Veyron, with an FXX. That's new.
You act like the Bugatti VGT is the stock Chiron... In theory, the Chiron is exaclty the same type of car as the FXX-K and the P1 GTR, so that should be it's place. They didn't choose to do that, but with a change in specs, it manages to battle against LMP1 cars. Does it look a bit out of place? Yes. Does it hurt anyone? No.



It depends on power, weight, gearing. Since the car might be 4wd, this might compensate the lack of downforce that way (kind of like the Nissan GT-R), and then with a bit more power manages to get better accelerations. But so far, it's just speculation.
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With a change in specs any car can compete with any car. A Miata can compete with an F1 car if you simply change the specs. If part of the criteria is, "does it hurt anyone", I guess anything goes really. I was talking about simulation though, different subject.
 
Gran Turismo and its weight measurements. I don't remember which GT, but the Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG did weigh over 3000kg in a past GT game. :sly:
 
Yes, GT3s are the lowest PI whilst GTEs are higher and the GTR is higher still.

And I don't for a second believe Ferraris claims after a LaFerrari owner weighed his and found it was somewhere in the region of 1600kg (the LaFerrari wiki page has it at 1585kg, close enough). If a lightened P1 only weighs 1440kg I doubt a lighter LaFerrari is lighter than that.
 
Imari
Wouldn't massive downforce cripple it at tracks with long straights and help it more at technical circuits?
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I think what he means is that there would be sufficient downforce at high speed tracks so that the car still has the superior top speed to LMPs but won't immediately lose its position in the corners.
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Yep, that is exactly what I was implying. Even with high amounts of downforce they claim over 250mph at four locations at Le Mans, with top speed at 278mph:
http://www.gran-turismo.com/us/vgt/bugatti/
The engineers have calculated that the Bugatti Vision Gran Turismo can drive at over 400 km/h (250 mph) on four sections of the virtual Le Mans track reaching an overall max speed of 447.59 km/h (278 mph).
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Couple that with all the extra down-force, and it should be able to corner much better than the Veyron or Chiron road cars can.
 
Ferrari (and sometimes Lambo) have a habit of quoting dry weights without fluids, instead of curb weights.

Unfortunately, most game developers don't differentiate between the two (or take into account driver weight, really).
 

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