Gran Turismo World Series 2024 Thread

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Gearbanger
Just did a practice lobby with the Pug VGT and I went flat out to see how it would play out on fuel. Got to lap 17 and had to stop in for a gulp but and didn’t do tires. Finished the 21 laps in 38:25 but I think the high BOP might play out a bit differently than the lobby settings as my lap times were a little bit slower than practicing in the Manu practice mode.

Not sure how much fuel saving with other cars will hurt overall time.
I may need to compare the RCZ fuel usage vs over race time.
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Is this Daytona?
If so I found the Porsche can no stop with short shifting. I did a few laps with the Supra to compare and it looks like that car needs more than short shifting to save fuel. I think it could be a close race between the one stopper and no stoppers with pit lane loss. Im sure Daytona is only what 15 seconds pit loss.
 
Anyone using the Ferrari? I was wondering how it would compare to the rest of the field in this track...
 
RacingGrandpa
I entered the warmup lobby yesterday and ran 3 laps then backed out. These 3 race "seasons" are just totally pointless and doesn't engage me at all.
It feels like, as a fellow team mate said, daily races with limited time.slots.
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Dont know if people have the notion but these are season races which means they are meant to simulate a championship.

Which means and its my opinion, these races should allow only one entry per player, you enter the race if you mess up you get those points and wait for the next week on the calendar..., also A+ lobbys should have permanent damage and no Ghosting at all.
This way people had to enter this races with a more engaging mindset has it should be, pratice in private lobbys to achieve good results in the real race.
This way when people aproach this races they had to keep in mind that you must do your best, no rage quit, no playing dirty and no chance to enter any other slot.

This is not the official season yet they are only races to test for the upcoming oficial season and the format its kind friendly user and meant to please casual players like me, but i rather spend time praticing and do my best like in RL than praticing and spend one full day spamming the slots until i get a the best result possible.

But it work like this, people can spamm the slots and for the most part its fine cause they can race more in one day and get the a best result/score even if they mess up the first entry...
There will always people that complain no matter the effort PD does to please a broad audience and diferent kinda of players/drivers.
 
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KaYibE
Dont know if people have the notion but these are season races which means they are meant to simulate a championship.

Which means and its my opinion, these races should allow only one entry per player, you enter the race if you mess up you get those points and wait for the next week on the calendar..., also A+ lobbys should have permanent damage and no Ghosting at all.
This way people had to enter this races with a more engaging mindset has it should be, pratice in private lobbys to achieve good results in the real race.
This way when people aproach this races they had to keep in mind that you must do your best, no rage quit, no playing dirty and no chance to enter any other slot.

This is not the official season yet they are only races to test for the upcoming oficial season and the format its kind friendly user and meant to please casual players like me, but i rather spend time praticing and do my best like in RL than praticing and spend one full day spamming the slots until i get a the best result possible.

But it work like this, people can spamm the slots and for the most part its fine cause they can race more in one day and get the a best result/score even if they mess up the first entry...
There will always people that complain no matter the effort PD does to please a broad audience and diferent kinda of players/drivers.
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Oh, I would prefer a one shot system as well. And I mean that you can only try once, then the rest of the slots are blocked so no one can join after their points to wreck the others.

What I meant is a 3 race season isn't a season at all and it doesn't engage me. At all.
I remember the 30 race season from GT Sport
 
RacingGrandpa
Oh, I would prefer a one shot system as well. And I mean that you can only try once, then the rest of the slots are blocked so no one can join after their points to wreck the others.

What I meant is a 3 race season isn't a season at all and it doesn't engage me. At all.
I remember the 30 race season from GT Sport
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Official season will be a lot bigger/longer.
 
Roggers
Is this Daytona?
If so I found the Porsche can no stop with short shifting. I did a few laps with the Supra to compare and it looks like that car needs more than short shifting to save fuel. I think it could be a close race between the one stopper and no stoppers with pit lane loss. Im sure Daytona is only what 15 seconds pit loss.
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Yes, it was Daytona sorry for being vague. Definitely a minimal pit loss if only in for a few liters and nothing more.
I’m just gonna go for it on Wednesday and see how it plays out.
I like trying different approaches and seeing where they work and where they don’t.
Fuel saving is quite nerve racking too because you need to be confident to close the gap once the faster car pits.
With VR I’m flying blind to gaps and pit stops so I only know my position but zero feedback on where I am from the lead car.

Good Luck with your race!
 
KaYibE
Dont know if people have the notion but these are season races which means they are meant to simulate a championship.

Which means and its my opinion, these races should allow only one entry per player, you enter the race if you mess up you get those points and wait for the next week on the calendar..., also A+ lobbys should have permanent damage and no Ghosting at all.
This way people had to enter this races with a more engaging mindset has it should be, pratice in private lobbys to achieve good results in the real race.
This way when people aproach this races they had to keep in mind that you must do your best, no rage quit, no playing dirty and no chance to enter any other slot.

This is not the official season yet they are only races to test for the upcoming oficial season and the format its kind friendly user and meant to please casual players like me, but i rather spend time praticing and do my best like in RL than praticing and spend one full day spamming the slots until i get a the best result possible.

But it work like this, people can spamm the slots and for the most part its fine cause they can race more in one day and get the a best result/score even if they mess up the first entry...
There will always people that complain no matter the effort PD does to please a broad audience and diferent kinda of players/drivers.
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I totally understand what your saying and I do agree to some extent that the races should be one shot only, but my issue with that is in the lower ranks the way some people drive, your race can be over within the 1st corner. Having the next slot available gives you another chance. Plus I’m the lower ranks were not really playing for anything as PD obviously don’t see GT2 or GT3 leagues as worthy enough. I’m not expecting PD to put on a world finals for GT2/GT3 leagues but I do think they should be some reward or something to play for in these leagues.

Id like there to be a 3 race limit. You can enter any of the all day slots, but once you completed your 3 race thats your limit. I think 3 slot is fair chance for everyone to get a decent race.
A+ plus should adopt this method. Have all day slots like GT2 & 3 but then have 3 official ranked GTWS slots. Casual A & A+ drivers can then still compete and score points but there points won’t count toward a seat in the GTWS final, and having 3 official ranked slots then mean those GTWS drivers aiming for the finals have competitive races.


Gearbanger
Yes, it was Daytona sorry for being vague. Definitely a minimal pit loss if only in for a few liters and nothing more.
I’m just gonna go for it on Wednesday and see how it plays out.
I like trying different approaches and seeing where they work and where they don’t.
Fuel saving is quite nerve racking too because you need to be confident to close the gap once the faster car pits.
With VR I’m flying blind to gaps and pit stops so I only know my position but zero feedback on where I am from the lead car.

Good Luck with your race!
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Ah no worries.
End of the day you can only run your own race and doing it the fastest way possible. Fuel saving is quite a tricky technique, one that I struggle with at times. Sometimes I’ve tried to fuel save in races as I was advised by others and it’s not worked out as my pace was too slow compared to the 1 stoppers.
Yeah VR biggest let down was not having the delta between cars.
Yeah Wednesday for me im in the Porsche which can do the race no stopping, but they are 1 or 2 cars who I think could 1 stop and beat me. Just have to see how it goes Wednesday 👍🏻
 
dkstz
Anyone using the Ferrari? I was wondering how it would compare to the rest of the field in this track...
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I can't confirm it, but the streamer Grove Street uses the Ferrari a lot. Might be worth checking out his channel/stream.


I'd imagine the Ferrari would not be good at Dayton, because its top end isn't very good. But I have no idea.
 
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What kind of lap times are people putting in at Daytona, in race simulations with fuel saving? I am one of only 8(!) drivers foolish enough to sign up for Mitsubishi in GT2. It can easily do a no stop without hardly trying, but I could just touch 1:49s a couple of times when my car was lighter (presumably). Or I just stink.
 
Gearbanger
Just did a practice lobby with the Pug VGT and I went flat out to see how it would play out on fuel. Got to lap 17 and had to stop in for a gulp but and didn’t do tires. Finished the 21 laps in 38:25 but I think the high BOP might play out a bit differently than the lobby settings as my lap times were a little bit slower than practicing in the Manu practice mode.

Not sure how much fuel saving with other cars will hurt overall time.
I may need to compare the RCZ fuel usage vs over race time.
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Just did a race sim in the Supra. Pretty close to the same results but I was able to make 18 laps with no fuel saving. I hate doing fuel saving as well so I'll probably just go for it and stop for the splash of fuel to make the finish.
 
RacingGrandpa
Well. I will believe that when I see that. Last official season had 3 races count.
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The proper season 1 had 6 races, with top 3 scores counting.
Season 2 had 8 races, with top 4 scores counting.
Maybe we get up to 10 this time, depends on their schedule for the live events and finals.
 
RacingGrandpa
Well. I will believe that when I see that. Last official season had 3 races count.
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Pretty standard. I don't think there's ever been one with any more than 50% of all possible round results counting. 25-40% has been the norm across the five previous seasons and the various preludes, tests, and exhibitions.

Even the 30-race season (2020; it was originally four blocks of ten, but then it became three blocks of ten) only had eight results count, or less than 30% - equivalent to fewer than best three from ten.
 
icycls
What kind of lap times are people putting in at Daytona, in race simulations with fuel saving? I am one of only 8(!) drivers foolish enough to sign up for Mitsubishi in GT2. It can easily do a no stop without hardly trying, but I could just touch 1:49s a couple of times when my car was lighter (presumably). Or I just stink.
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I didn’t spend that much time and put down 1:47.2 with mid 1:46 as optimal.
If I mess up at all or get slowed down in the race I’ll be in a tough spot.
 
xxPinkyKissxx
In case anyone is interested and doesn't know, the Daytona race starts in the dark and ends in daylight :)

Pit loss is around 16-17 seconds if filling with roughly 3 laps of fuel.
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There's cars that need to save multiple laps of fuel?? The American V8s need to barely save 1 lap...
 
icycls
What kind of lap times are people putting in at Daytona, in race simulations with fuel saving? I am one of only 8(!) drivers foolish enough to sign up for Mitsubishi in GT2. It can easily do a no stop without hardly trying, but I could just touch 1:49s a couple of times when my car was lighter (presumably). Or I just stink.
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Also in GT2, running the AMG GT3. Drove as normal for first half, some short-shifting for final 10 laps. Finished with 0%/0.1 laps, averaged 1:49s for most of the race.
 
Can someone please make a drawing to show track limits at the Daytona bus stop chicane? The white lines don't seem to define the limits. But if I put one tire on grass, I seem to get track limit penalty. Thank you in advance!
 
Famine
Pretty standard. I don't think there's ever been one with any more than 50% of all possible round results counting. 25-40% has been the norm across the five previous seasons and the various preludes, tests, and exhibitions.

Even the 30-race season (2020; it was originally four blocks of ten, but then it became three blocks of ten) only had eight results count, or less than 30% - equivalent to fewer than best three from ten.
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I might have been unclear. It's the number of races that has me engaged, not the number that are counted.
My score is never going to get me to World Tour anyway so it's the immersion and the feeling of doing something over a long haul that I enjoy.
 
RacingGrandpa
I might have been unclear. It's the number of races that has me engaged, not the number that are counted.
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Well... pretty much every official season has had 10, bar the first two seasons of Sport and 7.

2018 - 4, 8, 10
2019 - 10, 10
2020 - 10, 10, 10
2021 - 10, 10
2022 - 6, 8

Of course the original plan for 2020 was four ten-race seasons, each culminating in a World Tour, but... "things" happened.

If PD is looking to pick up in 2023 where 2020 left off (and with 2022's two live events as test runs) I wouldn't be surprised to see two or more ten-race seasons this year.


That said, I'm not personally expecting that; I won't say what I am expecting, or when, because I don't want people running off to Facedit and TwitTube to say GTPLANET SAID THIS IS DEFINITELY HAPPENING. Again.
 
appu
Can someone please make a drawing to show track limits at the Daytona bus stop chicane? The white lines don't seem to define the limits. But if I put one tire on grass, I seem to get track limit penalty. Thank you in advance!
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It seems to me like if over half the width of your car is beyond the curbs, it's a penalty. i've definitely put 2 tires in the grass and didn't get a penalty as long as it was JUST the tires.
 
I tested my 650S doing a simulation race. First half running at low 1:47s, second half at mid/high 1:46s (A+ rating). Tyres were not a problem. Race duration at finish was around 37mins 40sec.
Pretty much flat out for the entire distance, minus the last lap which began with 0.7 laps of fuel remaining.

Considering the fact that we won't drive solo and so fast, I'd say the majority of cars can run without a stop. Though I think the META cars for this track such as the Supra and the Peugeot VGT may need to stop or at least save fuel significantly.
 
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jontikis
I tested my 650S doing a simulation race. First half running at low 1:37s, second half at mid/high 1:36s (A+ rating). Tyres were not a problem. Race duration at finish was around 37mins 40sec.
Pretty much flat out for the entire distance, minus the last lap which began with 0.7 laps of fuel remaining.

Considering the fact that we won't drive solo and so fast, I'd say the majority of cars can run without a stop. Though I think the META cars for this track such as the Supra and the Peugeot VGT may need to stop or at least save fuel significantly.
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7s less by lap than the best in time trial😂😂😂😂
 
Was just in a lobby with a streamer I watch in the Ford GT LM for the Daytona race. Made it 18 laps on fuel while pushing. I just wanted to see how far it would go. Fuel saving three laps worth seems like it may be difficult. May not have time to do another session so might have to do it live.
 
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Looks like the Toyota's will have their hands full with the Fords this this race. Good to see a better mix at the top of the time charts.

Any idea on the forecast? It looks like we have wet tires as a option is why I ask. And, I think that would add a interesting dynamic to the race.

Does anyone else's car just heave the back end around and steer in a circle coming out of the corners? I think there may be way to much camber in this BOP suspension 🤔 Or could it be the flopped spring rates? Regardless, if we get a kg hit (141 kg in the Viper) can we please change the spring and camber PD?
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Rant over. Back to the laps.
 

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