So "maintenance underway" means what?That's literally the first thing on the Gran Turismo page, they don't explicitly say servers are down or anything. They're literally exploiting ppl.
I’m not sure how they can’t as I don’t think getting broadband requires a credit check. And true they could but I don’t think they are as bothered as I am right now that I can’t play GT7 😂Is that like a verification thing because of their income?
They could give their neighbours a few beers for their wifi password? 😂
I remember the days of the PS3 servers were down for nearly a month... Scary times...The amount of people who have never experienced a live service game before 🤣 you think 1 day is bad? 🤣 “omg PD is scamming us they did this on purpose as it’s outside of the refund window” 🤣🤣 some live service games have gone down for weeks at times rendering every single piece of content unplayable. Yet some of you are behaving like a unplanned extra maintenance due to the discovery of a critical problem with the patch is the end of the world it’s hilarious. If they decided not to run extra maintenance and let this critical error stay as we play and potentially break our games and lose all our progress etc How would you react then? some annoying maintenance is definitely preferable to a potiential bug ruining a lot more than just your ability to play for one day.
It doesn't specifically say the GT servers, and most people don't expect that they can't play most of a game because their online servers are down.So "maintenance underway" means what?
I to remember those hard time 😭I remember the days of the PS3 servers were down for nearly a month... Scary times...
That doesn't make it acceptable. They're charging 90 bucks for the CE and this does NOT need to be persistent online. That's a choice they made and we see little benefit, and much consequence. Every bit of annoyance is justified.The amount of people who have never experienced a live service game before 🤣 you think 1 day is bad? 🤣 “omg PD is scamming us they did this on purpose as it’s outside of the refund window” 🤣🤣 some live service games have gone down for weeks at times rendering every single piece of content unplayable. Yet some of you are behaving like a unplanned extra maintenance due to the discovery of a critical problem with the patch is the end of the world it’s hilarious. If they decided not to run extra maintenance and let this critical error stay as we play and potentially break our games and lose all our progress etc How would you react then? some annoying maintenance is definitely preferable to a potiential bug ruining a lot more than just your ability to play for one day.
What determines the game is unfinished? You want to go back 15 years to a time where games never got updates and if they were “unfinished and had bugs that stopped you progressing” you couldn’t do a damn thing you could never finish that game because that bug could never be removed.I shouldn't be paying 60 dollars to not be able to play a game though, and that fact Still stands. I'm tired of games releasing unfinished and people making excuses for it.
I am still waiting on the servers to come online. Been waiting 6+hrs now. I keep getting this message after booting the game...
Do l have a problem here or is this the same for everyone?
But surely her contract has hours specified for the week/month that she gets paid for? Anything over that should be either paid or given time off in lieu.my wife does similar work and they worked till about 3 am once then called it a day till the next day. The get paid a salary so no overtime.
Other games going down for longer doesn’t suddenly make this better?The amount of people who have never experienced a live service game before 🤣 you think 1 day is bad? 🤣 “omg PD is scamming us they did this on purpose as it’s outside of the refund window” 🤣🤣 some live service games have gone down for weeks at times rendering every single piece of content unplayable. Yet some of you are behaving like a unplanned extra maintenance due to the discovery of a critical problem with the patch is the end of the world it’s hilarious. If they decided not to run extra maintenance and let this critical error stay as we play and potentially break our games and lose all our progress etc How would you react then? some annoying maintenance is definitely preferable to a potiential bug ruining a lot more than just your ability to play for one day.
Most likely they will reward players with 5% discount on your next credits purchase.The should reward each player with 1,000,000cr for this one.
Okay you want the game to go back to the PS3 days where a someone could modify saves and bring 10000hp cars into the game and ruin everyone else’s experience? This type of DRM while yes in annoying and while it frustrates me. It serves a purpose of making sure someone isn’t modifying game files. Basically every time you go on the game whilst online the servers are verifying your game if it detects modified files it bans you. It’s a security thing it’s why the PS4 and PS5 get those “system stability updates” every time the console updates anyone trying to make custom code and break into the OS has to start from scratch. The server verification system PD is using for GT is basically the same kind of thing.That doesn't make it acceptable. They're charging 90 bucks for the CE and this does NOT need to be persistent online. That's a choice they made and we see little benefit, and much consequence. Every bit of annoyance is justified.
... and surely not doing so would be illegal? Not a lawyer but, it sounds like it would be.But surely her contract has hours specified for the week/month that she gets paid for? Anything over that should be either paid or given time off in lieu.
okay but you will still have downloaded a patch that had a critical bug in it that could potential ruin the game for you making you start over for example or lose all your cars etc And you wouldn’t be able to do the install game without internet connection and stay offline to avoid downloading the patch as your save file would be one of a newer version of the game like version 1.02 and 1.06.Other games going down for longer doesn’t suddenly make this better?
Also, the issue here is that maintenance downtime shouldn’t leave you with a coaster (or whatever the digital equivalent of a coaster is). There is no good reason for GT7 needing to be online or to totally restrict single player content if it can’t connect.
That's literally the first thing on the Gran Turismo page, they don't explicitly say servers are down or anything. They're literally exploiting ppl.
It literally says ‘Online Server Status - Maintenence Currently Underway’It doesn't specifically say the GT servers, and most people don't expect that they can't play most of a game because their online servers are down.
Look at how ****ed Cold War was. I would call that pretty damn unfinished and with a lot of the new games they're sadly following that example.What determines the game is unfinished? You want to go back 15 years to a time where games never got updates and if they were “unfinished and had bugs that stopped you progressing” you couldn’t do a damn thing you could never finish that game because that bug could never be removed.
Just because games get updates after the game has been released due to bugs that weren’t found or they want to add more content etc means there unfinished?
Except GT7 is not a live service game. It's 90% offline, single player.The amount of people who have never experienced a live service game before 🤣 you think 1 day is bad? 🤣 “omg PD is scamming us they did this on purpose as it’s outside of the refund window” 🤣🤣 some live service games have gone down for weeks at times rendering every single piece of content unplayable. Yet some of you are behaving like a unplanned extra maintenance due to the discovery of a critical problem with the patch is the end of the world it’s hilarious. If they decided not to run extra maintenance and let this critical error stay as we play and potentially break our games and lose all our progress etc How would you react then? some annoying maintenance is definitely preferable to a potiential bug ruining a lot more than just your ability to play for one day.
Seperate save for offline and online, that's how it is in gtav, also remove tuning for online and let every car to be unlockedOkay you want the game to go back to the PS3 days where a someone could modify saves and bring 10000hp cars into the game and ruin everyone else’s experience? This type of DRM while yes in annoying and while it frustrates me. It serves a purpose of making sure someone isn’t modifying game files. Basically every time you go on the game whilst online the servers are verifying your game if it detects modified files it bans you. It’s a security thing it’s why the PS4 and PS5 get those “system stability updates” every time the console updates anyone trying to make custom code and break into the OS has to start from scratch. The server verification system PD is using for GT is basically the same kind of thing.
You're absolutely ****ing right, why does it need to be online only?Except GT7 is not a live service game. It's 90% offline, single player.
I don't want to sound edgy here, but most likely they'll do nothing. Get it working again and then its business as usual.Most likely they will reward players with 5% discount on your next credits purchase.
Every game company wants to make money instead of selling a good product, and that's why dhit like this is happening.Seperate save for offline and online, that's how it is in gtav, also remove tuning for online and let every car to be unlocked
Well that wouldn't cut now would it? Because they need to sell them sharkcards
And the reason being for that was half way through development the dev team making it got kicked off and another one took over giving them very little time to polish and ship a complete package. GT7 shows no signs of that at all. Very few bugs game running smoothly for the majority of people. Yet because they patch stuff after launch it’s unfinished?🤣 Games will never not have bugs so don’t expect bug free experiences because you aren’t going to get them. So in what way is GT7 unfinished?Look at how ****ed Cold War was. I would call that pretty damn unfinished and with a lot of the new games they're sadly following that example.
Also 80€ for the standard version, not free to play.Except GT7 is not a live service game. It's 90% offline, single player.