GT5 Could be delayed again for an early 2011 launch

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the word MIGHT and AFTER MARCH 2010 are promising maybe a summer release is the most likely release date target
 
They first state that they had a bad financial year due to the delay of GT5 to 2010. If this is the case, wouldn't they want to release before christmas this year instead of somewhere Q1/Q2 of 2011 ? Probably just a translation error.
 
Am i the only one who gets a sense of satisfaction to know that Sony are openly talking about GT5 in this call? There is no doubt that this is purely talking in financial years and that Sony are definately planning a release after 31st March 2010. They would not mention GT5 unless it was truely on the way.

Get GT5 out anytime this calendar year, not financial year, and i'll be satisfied.

Although really does make you wonder, what could be holding the game up?
 
I told you before... there is no GT5... it's all a myth...

Thankfully we'll be getting the new superstars v8 by the end of this month and I pretty much suspect that Euthecnix new racing game will be out on the market before GT5.

PS - I wonder if they keep delaying the game if it wouldn't make sense to call it "Granturismo 5.5 - the updated game of what GT5 was supposed to be, and the basis of what GT6 would be (if we still exist to launched)"
 
Out of interest who's fault is the G25 not working thing? M$, Logitec or Turn10?

Microsoft uses a different interface and force feedback architecture (XID) to the convential PC/PS3 way (HID), it actually requires extra circuitry within the wheel to do some of the calcultions. Then Microsoft requires fairly large royalities to become an official Microsoft product (which it needs to supported). Even then strangley not all the steering assists are removed even when you use a proper wheel in FM3, it still has a steering buffer which doesn't allow 1:1 direct steering all the time.
 
Guys, I think it's time that we all got together and wrote letters to Kaz.

Polite letters mind you, expressing our passion for the game and the desire to see it released. We want a great game, we appreciate his efforts at making a great game.. but ultimately the Gran Turismo series has always been great to us, even if it doesn't live up to his expectations. Bottom line, we want a game, we want to immerse ourselves.
 
Considering this latest extension of "Same old Sony", I'm more convinced than ever GT5 should have been released bearing the similar structure as the sequels, with GTNASCAR and GTWRC to follow as separate games.


Unreal! Obviously you can't have game sales of any game unless it can be released.

To me its glaringly evident there is just too much content to pack into one game and maintain any reasonable, bearable, or normal time frame of release.
 
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Can't PD put an official announcement on their web page - is that too much too ask?

if you have a product ready - the quicker you can get it into the customers hands the better - KY said the game can be released any time?

Maybe they have spent the last 5 years scanning to many cars and making them perfect and totally screwed up by not caring about features.

Why all the GT5 trailers when its not due to be released soon?

You can hear the Forza people laughing all the way to the bank now.
 
Hope you are right :scared:

I think he might be as one of the bullet points in the article states that GT5 delay is causing them financial pain or something along those lines. Q1 2010 starts april.
 
Guys, I think it's time that we all got together and wrote letters to Kaz.

Polite letters mind you, expressing our passion for the game and the desire to see it released. We want a great game, we appreciate his efforts at making a great game.. but ultimately the Gran Turismo series has always been great to us, even if it doesn't live up to his expectations. Bottom line, we want a game, we want to immerse ourselves.

Set it up my friend.. there is a LARGE community who have been waiting a bit too long, and while you are at it.. adress sony as well because this time i think they are handling the release date all the way.
 
Out of interest who's fault is the G25 not working thing? M$, Logitec or Turn10?

Same reason as why M$ did not put rechargeable batteries in the pads- so they can sell you overpriced battery packs and an overpriced battery charge power cable. Same as why they did not put in a wifi antena, same as why they make you pay for internet-$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

That is not the tragedy, M$ have been like that for decades. The sad thing is SONY are starting to act the same way. My biggest argument for the ps3 over xbox was that SONY are not like M$. Now I just don't know.
 
Set it up my friend.. there is a LARGE community who have been waiting a bit too long, and while you are at it.. adress sony as well because this time i think they are handling the release date all the way.


I have posted the full address for PD within the last week and have also posted the names of the other directors. Kaz is one of three.

I really do wonder how many pre orders have been placed and what the value of those is. I placed an order for it in 2005 but cancelled it in 2008
 
Maybe PD's production issues are a major server crash and they have to re-write half of the code again - or reproduce the digital assets.

There can be no other reason why this doesn't come out in 2010.
 
Same reason as why M$ did not put rechargeable batteries in the pads- so they can sell you overpriced battery packs and an overpriced battery charge power cable. Same as why they did not put in a wifi antena, same as why they make you pay for internet-$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

That is not the tragedy, M$ have been like that for decades. The sad thing is SONY are starting to act the same way. My biggest argument for the ps3 over xbox was that SONY are not like M$. Now I just don't know.

There's nothing stopping you putting your own rechargeable batteries in there though is there. And who would have thought it, a commercial company wanting to make money. Don't remember Sony giving me my PS3 for free when I bought it.
 
Gran Turismo 5... the new Duke Nukem.

Seriously it seems like sony don't want to promote this freaking game like it doesn't exist.
 
ohh my lord.... whyy? WHYYY!?

Serious... man, why they keep feeding us with demos, videos and footages of the ****** game if they dont plan launch it until 2011 ? That dont make sense to me... i still believe they will launch it this year ( christmas 2010 does not looks so bad right now ).
 
Gran Turismo 5... the new Duke Nukem.

Seriously it seems like sony don't want to promote this freaking game like it doesn't exist.

IMO, and I stick by it..

The reason we aren't getting anything, above all else, is that PD/Sony still don't know what the final game will be.. simple as..

I know people will think this is idiocy, and well, it's based on my interpretation of the events in the last 12 months, I really think GT5 development is way behind what anyone expected.

- PSP GT was rushed in the end, since it was supposed to be a PSP seller, I'm sure PD would have had to get as much resource on it as possible to hit that deadline, and in the end fell quite short in the SP mode, which I'm sure was a feature down exercise. That resource push would have taken away quite a lot from GT5 IMO, I don't care about the technicalities of they might have used 200 contractors etc, the fact is, GT PSP wasn't a full game, and the deadline was the PSPgo.. this shows how badly out PD can get on these things.
- The lack of E3 showing of GT5, it was all GT PSP, we all thought it was to not over-shadow GT PSP, but as it turns out, GT5 was miles away
- TT Demo - Honestly, at this 90% stage of the game, just a track and two cars where required, and it turns out to be some hybrid of stuff with just the physics being mentioned as more towards GT5, We had the Demo booths with a totally different graphics build (Seemingly), it doesn't make sense if you are close to completion that you would have to bodge a build together.
- The fact the Kaz has been motorsporting around the world, attending all automotive events you can think of and generally not being at PD cracking the whip, if it truly was 90% completed and in final polishing, then fair enough, but in reality, it's now quite late, and clearly the project management has failed somewhere along the lines.
- The demo's are constantly cited as not being representative of the final thing, audio/graphics/physics/AI.. Is anyone really believing that all those aspects are being finalised right at the end of development? I don't think so.


There are many more reasons I think PD are really struggling, and can't guarantee a final product's feature set, but the bottom line is until they know themselves, we can't possibly be told..
 
Me doing so is based off this statement "Sony are feeling the financial pain of Kaz’s failure to reach a point where he is satisfied with the game."

Sony shouldn't have any financial pain (regarding development cost) If the $60 million development cost Kaz stated late last year is correct.GT5p sales should be enough.Based on sales they have around $120million then minus the development cost and it's profit.

I understand the point that system sales won't be as large,and obviously the instant profits from GT5's release would help,if it sells at full price and hit's GT5p numbers,they make well over $200million,if it hit's typical GT numbers numbers your looking at $550 million+ (at full price) But because he's made cash before the game is out.All Sony can do with him is wait.Sony must feel like us :)
 
IMO, and I stick by it..

The reason we aren't getting anything, above all else, is that PD/Sony still don't know what the final game will be.. simple as..

I know people will think this is idiocy, and well, it's based on my interpretation of the events in the last 12 months, I really think GT5 development is way behind what anyone expected.

- PSP GT was rushed in the end, since it was supposed to be a PSP seller, I'm sure PD would have had to get as much resource on it as possible to hit that deadline, and in the end fell quite short in the SP mode, which I'm sure was a feature down exercise. That resource push would have taken away quite a lot from GT5 IMO, I don't care about the technicalities of they might have used 200 contractors etc, the fact is, GT PSP wasn't a full game, and the deadline was the PSPgo.. this shows how badly out PD can get on these things.
- The lack of E3 showing of GT5, it was all GT PSP, we all thought it was to not over-shadow GT PSP, but as it turns out, GT5 was miles away
- TT Demo - Honestly, at this 90% stage of the game, just a track and two cars where required, and it turns out to be some hybrid of stuff with just the physics being mentioned as more towards GT5, We had the Demo booths with a totally different graphics build (Seemingly), it doesn't make sense if you are close to completion that you would have to bodge a build together.
- The fact the Kaz has been motorsporting around the world, attending all automotive events you can think of and generally not being at PD cracking the whip, if it truly was 90% completed and in final polishing, then fair enough, but in reality, it's now quite late, and clearly the project management has failed somewhere along the lines.
- The demo's are constantly cited as not being representative of the final thing, audio/graphics/physics/AI.. Is anyone really believing that all those aspects are being finalised right at the end of development? I don't think so.


There are many more reasons I think PD are really struggling, and can't guarantee a final product's feature set, but the bottom line is until they know themselves, we can't possibly be told..


A really good post. Thank you


Sony must feel like us :)

This might be correct but sony have a hell of alot more infomation about where in the production it is than the public are being told so they at least have the knowledge that we the GT driving public don't!
 
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