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Well we will get Gran turismo 6 on Playstation4...
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GT5 Could be delayed again for an early 2011 launch
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Me I want to work in PD/SONY!!!!!
Well we will get Gran turismo 6 on Playstation4...
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A lot of people needs to get fire at Sony. They were doing good back in PS2 days, but I guess after the PS2 days a lot of good people from Sony quit and hired some noobies that messed up their electronics and game divisions. Just a guess. Can someone list some PS3 games that never made out since 2005 E3? From what I remember there's a lot of them.
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This assumes that bad forward planning is the issue, when we don't know what the issue is.
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I dont understand why PD dont expand a bit more.. this is 5 years of development we are talking about here, with a relatively small dev. team for a 60 million AAA franchise title.
Expand dammit, we could be playing this 2 years ago and we'd be discussing GT6 allready instead of waiting for the first GT installment on the PS3.. it's getting sad now.
Expand dammit, we could be playing this 2 years ago and we'd be discussing GT6 allready instead of waiting for the first GT installment on the PS3.. it's getting sad now.
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Actually the forth quarter is jan to end of march but your theory is still valid.
Relatively small dev team, who said that ? Polyphony Dev is huge.
It seems odd that in these days when a publisher will flog a big franchise to death with yearly iterations that PD and Sony couldn't have gone further in the opposite direction.
They are trying to do way too much in this title, I'm sure we would have all been happy with a GT5 in 2009 that was an enhanced Prologue with all the cars and tracks, then a GT6 in early 2011 that had all this hard extra stuff like day/night, damage, NASCAR etc.
That way they would have had our money twice, but throwing everything and the kitchen sink at this one beggars the question what will there be left to do on GT6 - a game they HAVE to come up with within the life of the PS3.
It seems odd that in these days when a publisher will flog a big franchise to death with yearly iterations that PD and Sony couldn't have gone further in the opposite direction.
They are trying to do way too much in this title, I'm sure we would have all been happy with a GT5 in 2009 that was an enhanced Prologue with all the cars and tracks, then a GT6 in early 2011 that had all this hard extra stuff like day/night, damage, NASCAR etc.
That way they would have had our money twice, but throwing everything and the kitchen sink at this one beggars the question what will there be left to do on GT6 - a game they HAVE to come up with within the life of the PS3.
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Why do they have to make gt6 on ps3?
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Yeah, this is a complete waste of time.
This is a milestone, the first intelligent suggestion of the whole forum! If the game take 5 years of development with 150 workers, it may take a smaller timespace if 250 people are working on it! What the ... PD doesn't really need 300 employees but it could outsource the 3d modeling tasks at least!
You just pay more money and software companies must speed up their development no matter what it takes.
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This is a milestone, the first intelligent suggestion of the whole forum! If the game take 5 years of development with 150 workers, it may take a smaller timespace if 250 people are working on it! What the ... PD doesn't really need 300 employees but it could outsource the 3d modeling tasks at least!
You just pay more money and software companies must speed up their development no matter what it takes.
Not really, you can only have so many people working on one thing. If you have too many people doing the same thing in the same area it will actually make it take longer since they will just get in each others way.
Plus outsourcing should always be a last resort since you have less control over the quality of the product.
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You're right, but this doesn't mean I'm wrong. The game is very complex, you can outsource the car modeling and set some parameters for quality, in this example Kazunori just come to the worker's desk and say : "That's good!", or "Do it again.". There's room for 500 hundred workers in GT5, the more cars and more tracks, the better for us.
This is not really true at all, it depends on the overall quality of the outsourced worker, also things must be well documented and set in paper, the only problem is how to translate what you really specifically want into a contract. Sony is so big and powerful, they must have competent lawyers, enough to write very detailed contracts and ensure the expected level of quality.
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I happen to like Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck, even though Glenn gives me heartburn at times.
The guy I have serious problems with is Bill O'Reilly. But we need these yahoos, because they're some of the very few who aren't worshiping this "messiah" in Washington, and his lackeys in Congress. But I digress...Well, we would have been playing GT5 now, or waiting for a late winter/early spring release, if not for SONY forcing Polyphony to produce GT PSP first. More than likely, that caused an 18 month or more delay.
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You still haven't explained a benefit for PD to outsource the model content. Not only is it harder to control, but having all technical work done on site makes review and analysis following QA a lot harder. If you can do all the work on-site (which PD can do, we've had no evidence to suggest otherwise in this iteration or any prior iteration of the GT series.), then you do it all on-site. As someone who works for a dev with people scattered all over the world, it makes tasks a lot harder. It's tough enough working with publishers on the other side of the planet, I can't imagine what it'd be like to have a large portion of the content (and quite frankly model/graphics is massively important in customer satisfaction, we live in the HD era, soon to be the 3D era, people want stunning looks.) being developed off-site. It will make everything take longer, let alone more expensive.
Besides all talk of model content and its deliverance is pretty much null and void this close to release.
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Why? This isn't new news, this isn't news. It's an expansion of the news we got from Kaz that the Japan release is being delayed until further notice. This story doesn't change anything, I still fully expect GT5 to be released with the Sony 3D TV commercial release.
Keep calm folks, don't try and read something that isn't there.
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While I'm in agreement with much of this, its hard to look at the handling of this game, and then be surprised how they could be losing money.
If and if and if and if etc.
So far, everything about this game has been a compilation of innuendo, vague possibility, rumor, maybes, who knows, and wild ass guess. At this point everything is suspect.
With the exception of some on the inside, I don't think anyone has a clue what the heck is going on with this game. I'm not sure even they know.
But I think it is safe to assume, something is radically wrong.
My content statement is based on plain old volume. The less volume involved the less time it should take to get the game out the door.
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I think everyone just needs to have a break and forget about the release date. Personally I enjoy seeing loads of new information, screenshots and videos of GT5 and don't worry about the release date. We shouldn't worry about it and start abandoning something we've been looking foward to the past 5 years now. I actually think E3 is the big stage for GT5 and we shouldn't expect a release date till then.
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Interesting that PSP sales have been stuttering. Maybe that's why PD had to work on the PSP version, and quick.
Most likely a combination of that and other things that we suspect have contributed to these delays.
At least we know it's hurting tham like us!
Most likely a combination of that and other things that we suspect have contributed to these delays.
At least we know it's hurting tham like us!
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I have yet to give an opinion on how I think the game has been handled, but no degree of mishandling should cause some one to feel good about the thought of massive losses that could lead to more than just those at fault losing their jobs or anyone killing themselves. My issue is with their attitude. My judgment on the handling of the production process is reserved until I see the final product.
So, nothing is glaringly evident?
Ah, see when you said:
I thought you were trying to say that the delay was caused by content, and while content could be at least partly to blame for a long development cycle there is nothing pointing to content as being the cause of the delay. My comment regarding an issue with testing was merely an attempt to point out that there are much more likely reasons for a sudden delay just two months out from the expected launch.
But I completely agree that if they had just stuck to say 400 cars they could have probably pumped this out in much less time.
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Well game can be just better with longer production time... All stuff that PD planed for DLC now can be included in game!!!! GT5 will be perfect, trust me guy's!!!!
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Cheers
. Also to be honest it isn't a lifetime away is it, E3 is 4-5 months away is it not. Certainly during last years show I was jumping out of my seat after seeing damage and the licenses for the first time. E3 is the biggest gaming show in the world (I think) so I do think that we will get something. In fact I don't see any other time for them to release an American release date even if its early 2011 or autumn 2010 or whatever, as for Europe I'm thinking Gamescom and as for Japan obviously TGS. I do hope for a worldwide release this time. We all just have to sit tight. Heck I'm sure MW2 will hold me over and so will the release of Skate 3.
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^^^ That's really soon too.
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Yeah, that's in one month ! the e3 ~4
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I just checked the list of exhibitors and Sony is on the list of course but it doesn't say with what.
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For america maybe but GDC europe to be held in Berlin is from the 17-19 August just 2 months or so after E3 not sure when Gamescom is. Actually ignore that part I just re-read and it was for last year. But GDC is way too soon to be expecting anything. Its just filled with GOW 3 stuff.
In a way though say if they said in July 2007 they "mentioned" a release date of Winter 2008 people would think it is a long time, but then if they said in 2007 it was not going to be released until winter 2010 would people just give up on the PS3 as the wait would be so long?
Is it a marketing plot by naming dates to keep the interest alive? Would they really tell the public an honest release date and fear loosing PS3 sales?
The above dates are only hypothetical, I really am not fussed about the release date personally, when its done it's done and it will be released there is nothing I can do to change that
It's better to have a polished game then a rushed game
Is it a marketing plot by naming dates to keep the interest alive? Would they really tell the public an honest release date and fear loosing PS3 sales?
The above dates are only hypothetical, I really am not fussed about the release date personally, when its done it's done and it will be released there is nothing I can do to change that
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