GT5 demo December 17 !

[GMTN]

Don't worry
No embargo on this one...

Just looking out, lol.

for those complaining about damage not being in the demo, just be grateful its going to be in the game at all.

Globe and Mail
Of course, there were plenty of other first-party games worth getting excited about (I’ll tackle the third-party stuff in another post later this week).

For example, I finally got some hands-on time with Gran Turismo 5, and while the controls were set up in a very arcade-like fashion that kept me from getting a feel for the game’s physics—which are purportedly more advanced than those of any game to come before—I did get to see GT5’s new damage system in full effect.

For the first time in a Gran Turismo game cars can become extensively damaged, with fenders, doors, and hoods crumpling and falling off. They can even roll over, though, due to manufacturer concerns about consumers seeing their coveted rides lying impotent on their roofs, they automatically right themselves.

Interestingly, the Polyphony Digital delegate who led me through the demo said that the only reason crash damage exists in the game is because of mountains of requests they’ve received from American gamers. The vast majority of content requests they get from European and Asian players is for more authentic cars and tracks. Only Americans, it seems, are fixated on busting up their virtual vehicles.

He also added that, according to their research, most players who want to see realistic damage—including issues that affects performance and handling—end up turning it off after just a few races. “They say, man, that’s cool, then switch it off because it makes the game too hard.”

Seems like a lot of work for a feature that ends up being used by so few people.

However, that Polyphony Digital would put such effort into something they know will be used by a niche group is likely an indication of their determination to make Gran Turismo 5 the most full-featured and authentic racing simulator to date.

 

[Kryz11]

Thanks for the pics ROM ! can you explain difference in the MAP options? What is the difference between fixed view and fixed direction?

 

[MeAgainstYou]

Thanks for posting ROM.. pics and vids are very welcome 👍

 

[R0M]

Thanks for the pics ROM ! can you explain difference in the MAP options? What is the difference between fixed view and fixed direction?

Here are explanations display below the configuration screen

Fixed direction : (car will be fixed in a upward facing position, with the circuit moving)
Fixed circuit (car will move along the displayed section of the circuit)

 

[Stonemonkey]

He also added that, according to their research, most players who want to see realistic damage—including issues that affects performance and handling—end up turning it off after just a few races. “They say, man, that’s cool, then switch it off because it makes the game too hard.”

Seems like a lot of work for a feature that ends up being used by so few people.

However, that Polyphony Digital would put such effort into something they know will be used by a niche group is likely an indication of their determination to make Gran Turismo 5 the most full-featured and authentic racing simulator to date.

Wow! I'd never thought of it like that, but come to think of it my mates hate playing with my race settings.

 

[LordVonPS3]

any one notice the map on the clearer video, its half transparent.

i hope they dont include this in gt5

I hope they do and also option to turn the ugly thing off completely, it's just irritating and cost me about one second each lap having this in my way!

BTW did they change 3rd person view a bit or is it just me?

Those options should be enough to please everyone!

 

[myke6699]

I hope this isn't too off-topic, if so please delete.

<shameless publicity>
For people with Forza 3 who want to have the same 370Z while waiting for the Time Trial Demo to drop, you can get it on my storefront (alba7). Search for 370Z GT Academy
</shameless publicity>

One of the reason why I did it is because I can't wait to play it Q__Q

As good as the livery look I'm afraid the car just seems disproprtionate:

Here's the real thing:

And ahem, actual shot from GT5 TT demo (downsized from Taxigamer 1080p or/and 720p capture):

A a few more of the track:

 

[RACECAR]

@GMTN: Why am I not surprised that its mostly americans that requested damage?

I hope this isn't too off-topic, if so please delete.

<shameless publicity>
For people with Forza 3 who want to have the same 370Z while waiting for the Time Trial Demo to drop, you can get it on my storefront (alba7). Search for 370Z GT Academy
</shameless publicity>

One of the reason why I did it is because I can't wait to play it Q__Q

Looks great. Needs moar wing though, possibly more cowbell.

 

[paskowitz]

Along with the fact that this is a time trial and in time trials damaging your car is not exactly the point or even relevant... if the demo had a 16 car grid and no damage... then I would be a little disappointed.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Here are explanations display below the configuration screen

Can you do me a favor? Hit the tire barrier going into the first corner. I want to see if they scatter.

Along with the fact that this is a time trial and in time trials damaging your car is not exactly the point or even relevant... if the demo had a 16 car grid and no damage... then I would be a little disappointed.

Hey look, an American complaining about damage.

 

[Dravonic]

How brave of Yamauchi to send his time out there for everyone to see

I'll make sure to beat it

And for those complaining about how the graphics are looking like GT5P: really? What were you expecting? A miracle? It's running on the same console, improvements can only be modest of course. And about them being sterile: please... have you ever looked at the real thing? I don't think so...

 

[paskowitz]

Can you do me a favor? Hit the tire barrier going into the first corner. I want to see if they scatter.



Hey look, an American complaining about damage.

Hey, let get this straight. First of all, the word if, excludes me from any and all stereotypes about Americans and damage foolery. I never cared about damage to begin with... but now that it is here I would like to see it. Features like weather, day night cycles, reverse lights were and are more important to me.

/defense mode.

 

[HN7]

How brave of Yamauchi to send his time out there for everyone to see

I'll make sure to beat it

And for those complaining about how the graphics are looking like GT5P: really? What were you expecting? A miracle? It's running on the same console, improvements can only be modest of course. And about them being sterile: please... have you ever looked at the real thing? I don't think so...

Do we know for sure it's him? Nobody nowadays use their real name online anymore. Not counting the amount of friend request, message he will get about GT5.

 

[RACECAR]

How brave of Yamauchi to send his time out there for everyone to see

I think he is indirectly calling out Mark Webber

Do we know for sure it's him?

*Cues dramatic music*

 

[socomkiller59]

I'm pretty amazed that the graphics look like GT5 and that we have the cockpit views. I thought it'd be like another GT:HD. But its more like GT5, only 2 cars, and 1 track. It will hold me over for awhile, but I still have other things to play. Some DLC for my favorite game will be coming soon- can you guess what it is!?

 

[CodeRedR51]

Hey, let get this straight. First of all, the word if, excludes me from any and all stereotypes about Americans and damage foolery. I never cared about damage to begin with... but now that it is here I would like to see it. Features like weather, day night cycles, reverse lights were and are more important to me.

/defense mode.

Just making a joke because of that article posted before. Sheesh.

*Cues dramatic music*

I'm pretty amazed that the graphics look like GT5 and that we have the cockpit views. I thought it'd be like another GT:HD. But its more like GT5, only 2 cars, and 1 track. It will hold me over for awhile, but I still have other things to play. Some DLC for my favorite game will be coming soon- can you guess what it is!?

Hmmm....Socom?

 

[Tapey]

No complaints about the graphics here, the track is huge and looks identical to it's real life counterpart. Can't ask for more than that really. If you want a nicer looking track ask them to make the real life version more visually appealing maybe. As it stands right now though, it's still the best-looking sim racer on consoles.

I'm shocked they finally changed the tyre squeel sound too

 

[CTznOfTime]

As good as the livery look I'm afraid the car just seems disproprtionate:
Here's the real thing:

And ahem, actual shot from GT5 TT demo (downsized from Taxigamer 1080p or/and 720p capture):

Thank you for confirming it... i also thought the 370z on FM3 kinda look like a toy.... with its overpumpped wheels etc...

either that, or the camera they have choosen to show the car is way too close... which would not be the best choice.

In this case , PD really did a good job with the above screen shot (and lap time too)




And i dont really understand why some of you would be surprise as to how this look too much like GT5-P.... it's not like GT5-P is a bad thing...
and what really did you expect... the graphics arent going to be lightyears ahead on GT5... and furthermore, you already saw some of the screen shots of GT5 a month back ....

i am not sure how much more you can expect...

well anyways... dont let me be the party pooper...

Keep dreaming and wishing as it pleases you... but for me, i am already a SOLD-customer... i am just patiently waiting for the official release, and i will be rushing over the store.

PS: can someone make a poll-thread to ask from which store most people are going to buy GT5 from (or online)???

 

[evilfoxhound]

Thank you for confirming it... i also thought the 370z on FM3 kinda look like a toy.... with its overpumpped wheels etc...

They are pretty-much identical in dimentions.

Those comparison screenshots were using different focal lengths. Forza 3 was closer to the car, using a wide lens and the GT5 one was far away and zoomed in, giving a much flatter look.

 

[myke6699]

They are pretty-much identical in dimentions.

Those comparison screenshots were using different focal lengths. Forza 3 was closer to the car, using a wide lens and the GT5 one was far away and zoomed in, giving a much flatter look.

I agree, it was the wide-angle view that makes it look weird (in the FM3 version).

Here's a quick slideshow from Taxigamer capture: http://www.flickr.com/photos/85327101@N00/sets/72157622878137125/show/

 

[cletus 669]

Thank you for confirming it... i also thought the 370z on FM3 kinda look like a toy.... with its overpumpped wheels etc...

either that, or the camera they have choosen to show the car is way too close... which would not be the best choice.

In this case , PD really did a good job with the above screen shot (and lap time too)



And i dont really understand why some of you would be surprise as to how this look too much like GT5-P.... it's not like GT5-P is a bad thing...
and what really did you expect... the graphics arent going to be lightyears ahead on GT5... and furthermore, you already saw some of the screen shots of GT5 a month back ....

i am not sure how much more you can expect...

well anyways... dont let me be the party pooper...

Keep dreaming and wishing as it pleases you... but for me, i am already a SOLD-customer... i am just patiently waiting for the official release, and i will be rushing over the store.

PS: can someone make a poll-thread to ask from which store most people are going to buy GT5 from (or online)???

I live in the USA and I pre-ordered my copy Saturday from Gamestop. I know it is early but I would hate it if I went to buy it on the day of it's release and they were all sold out.

 

[G.T.Ace]

I hope this isn't too off-topic, if so please delete.

<shameless publicity>
For people with Forza 3 who want to have the same 370Z while waiting for the Time Trial Demo to drop, you can get it on my storefront (alba7). Search for 370Z GT Academy
</shameless publicity>

One of the reason why I did it is because I can't wait to play it Q__Q

I dont want to flame and i dont want to troll.
But is the aspect ratio correct in these pics? Seriously.

 

[hardvibes]

I dont want to flame and i dont want to troll.
But is the aspect ratio correct in these pics? Seriously.

Yes, and the 370 is not the only one looking like an egg with that camera angle.

 

[G.T.Ace]

It looks almost like some racing games on my monitor because i still havent found out how to change it from 16:10 to 16:9. Jeez....

EDIT: By the way, i was confused from these pics because i always lurk in the FM3 board here and find most of the photos posted absolutely gorgeous.

 

[Jay]

I am alittle curious about the assists in the 'not' demo

Is there an option to turn them off or are we stuck with fixed settings, the reason I say this is this video (and the other extra low quality one)



You can clearly see there is a throttle buffer when he gets on the throttle hard on corner exit (the red bar within the throttle column shows commanded throttle, blue shows the actual throttle), I assume this is a TCS and/or ASM setting but I'm not sure as I never use them.



Edit:

I notice this picture shows these settings as off for KY's run, so it must be optional

 

[G.T.Ace]

I already posted the confirmation from the PS Blog, they said Standard physics and most assists are disabled in the demo to make it a real "challenge". Maybe they put some slight helpers in there but its still equal for everyone. Btw. driving assists in the HUD can be seen in the bottom right corner (chase cam), the symbol (/!\) flashes when the assists become active.

 

[Jay]

Yeah, I am a little worried some of the fun will be hampered with these forced assist.

 

[torontoml]

I can't be 100% positive, but I believe I read that the settings are fixed, so that the everybody is competing under the same conditions.

 

[G.T.Ace]

It could also just mean that the engine doesnt react as fast as the player input (note, the red line means how far the accelerator is pressed and the white line what the engine actually does, you can test that in Prologue too), or its a helper for pad users.

EDIT: Just a question, isnt this exactly what i posted above torontomi?

EDIT²: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3672788&postcount=863
Theres the original statement from the PS Blog.

 

[CoolColJ]

iRacing version, which is laser scanned