GT6 Official Car List Impressions/Thoughts

[Griffith500]

But people complained about GT3's car count after GT2. PD can't win. They will always have to compromise. That might suit some people more than others, depending on the exact compromise made.

Arguably, had they fixed the differences in functionality and left the aesthetic differences intact, there would likely be far fewer complaints. I'm not sold on the idea that the Standards use different physics, either.

The simple fact is that the more unique cars in the game, the more diverse appeal it has (it's also, obviously, great marketing). "Consistency" (to what tolerance?) isn't necessary for some, although it is obviously desirable more or less universally.


The current cars are supposed to be being carried over to PS4. That's why they take so long to make, and (primarily) why GT5 suffered from slowdown so much. Compromise.

 

[jimipitbull]

I think PD always keep something up their sleeve. Cars and tracks, ready to drop the moment Forza gains a few inches.
And come time for Pcars launch, there will be a flood of content for PS3, or even a PS4 version of GT6. Or both

 

[Flash_Noddy]

Sorry, buut this P1 business and licensing business is driving me up the wall. I may be wrong, but I'm almost certain that Forza announced some form of partnership with McLaren during Microsoft's E3 press conference when they brought a P1 onto the stage. HOPEFULLY, this will clarify things. On my phone at the moment so unfortunately unable to check for myself.

As for car counts... *sigh*
I think every proper Gran Turismo fan appreciates classic cars and motorsport history being a big part of it. However, it is true that the balance has shifted. I'm not talking about all the GT-R's or MX-5's, but the lack of modern cars. I remember playing GT3 and 4 and being excited by all the most recent cars, fast and slow, but for some reason in GT5... It slipped a bit. Even the new cars were 2 years out of date when the game came out.
I love Gran Turismo, but I get where these 'moaners' are coming from. GT used to have all the new stuff, until GT5 it was normal. The fanbase accepted that 5 wasn't everything it could have been, but expected a return to norm for 6, with an up to date game.
Long story short, it's PD who's standards slipped, and there's no way around it, and that's kinda gutting for long-term fans like me =/

 

[sems4arsenal]

I've been impressed by how Forza handle their car count/modeling etc however the number of cars in Forza 5 isn't big enough and I have a feeling they intentionally didn't future proof content to release it later as DLC.

 

[sepulturite]

As for car counts... *sigh*
I think every proper Gran Turismo fan appreciates classic cars and motorsport history being a big part of it. However, it is true that the balance has shifted. I'm not talking about all the GT-R's or MX-5's, but the lack of modern cars. I remember playing GT3 and 4 and being excited by all the most recent cars, fast and slow, but for some reason in GT5... It slipped a bit. Even the new cars were 2 years out of date when the game came out.
I love Gran Turismo, but I get where these 'moaners' are coming from. GT used to have all the new stuff, until GT5 it was normal. The fanbase accepted that 5 wasn't everything it could have been, but expected a return to norm for 6, with an up to date game.
Long story short, it's PD who's standards slipped, and there's no way around it, and that's kinda gutting for long-term fans like me =/

The problem these days with PD is that they take 6 months to make a car for the game, and with such a small amount of staff that means by the time they're finished and the games released those cars that were new at the time are a year or 2, or even 3 years old. It's the price we pay to have such beautiful looking cars in the game I guess.

 

[austin4500]

I was just looking at the car list and i have a question about the BMW M3 GT (BMW Motorsport) ’11. Did they mean GTS or im i mistaken

 

[Flash_Noddy]

PD have always took forever to make games. Unfortunately, when current-gen came along they seem to have continued at a PS2 pace, and to my eyes, have adapted very poorly to the HD era and its even lengthier production times.
I'm a GT fanboy. I'll happily admit that, but if PD's same rate of work continues, I can't see GT lasting much longer =(.

Buuuuuut.....

There may be hope. Kaz tweeted a month or so ago that we should expect GT7 'sooner than you might expect', stating possibly 2 years if that. So if we're really lucky, the reason for this mess is because they are already well underway with 7, and a sizeable chunk of their focus is on next-gen. Just a thought to maybe keep spirits up. =)

I was just looking at the car list and i have a question about the BMW M3 GT (BMW Motorsport) ’11. Did they mean GTS or im i mistaken

Not sure but it appears to be the GT1 class racer from that years ALMS/WEC.

 

[AnPrionsaBeag]

But people complained about GT3's car count after GT2. PD can't win. They will always have to compromise. That might suit some people more than others, depending on the exact compromise made.

I agree. Actually, most of my favourite cars in GT5 are standards. They sure look ugly but at least they're there and I can enjoy driving them, which is basically why I love Gran Turismo. I never used Photomode, not once, and I seldom watch replays so that compromise suits me fine.

 

[Conquerer]

Not the best of comparisons, to be fair. The Merc in the first shot is a 'standard car', and each of the Forza shots are from selection screens shown in the absolute best light.

The Merc being standard was the whole point, same for the XJ220. No doubt GT5 premium cars look fantastic and better than FM4's cars, but the standards are not at all up to par with FM4's cars. Sure, those are from selection screens but so is the CLK LM. You can't even take those GT5 cars to photo mode cause they look so bad, so I don't think there's even a discussion here. PS2 vs Xbox 360, really not a fair fight and that's PD's fault.

 

[Flash_Noddy]

Also, for fans of race cars, Super GT entered into a partership with DTM to have same spec cars and possible cross series stuff fron 2014, so maybe DTM will appear at some point in GT6 given PD's close relationship with Super GT.

 

[Johnnypenso]

The problem these days with PD is that they take 6 months to make a car for the game, and with such a small amount of staff that means by the time they're finished and the games released those cars that were new at the time are a year or 2, or even 3 years old. It's the price we pay to have such beautiful looking cars in the game I guess.

It's PD's choice to have a small amount of staff, not something we should just accept as par for the course. It isn't the price we pay for having such beautiful cars, it's the price we pay for having less of the beautiful cars than we would have if they hired and trained more people.

 

[sepulturite]

It's PD's choice to have a small amount of staff, not something we should just accept as par for the course. It isn't the price we pay for having such beautiful cars, it's the price we pay for having less of the beautiful cars than we would have if they hired and trained more people.

Oh yeh I agree with you, but PD seem to only do what PD wants to do, so hiring more staff seems very doubtful!

 

[CorvetteConquer]

Anybody else notice they've placed the Dodge Charger SRT8 in the SRT category? Only the Viper should be in the SRT slot.

PD/Sony, I'm counting on you to fix it.

 

[jimipitbull]

It's PD's choice to have a small amount of staff, not something we should just accept as par for the course. It isn't the price we pay for having such beautiful cars, it's the price we pay for having less of the beautiful cars than we would have if they hired and trained more people.

A driving simulator where you need to collect all the cars.

99% of cars in the real world are standards. All the cars in the game must be premium

Nissan Pokemon Academy

 

[Gerarghini]

Anybody else notice they've placed the Dodge Charger SRT8 in the SRT category? Only the Viper should be in the SRT slot.

PD/Sony, I'm counting on you to fix it.

To add, only the new 3rd Generation Viper should be in the SRT Category. The old vipers should stay in the dodge or Chrysler category.

Edit: Also the Dodge Ram should stay with Dodge, not with RAM since the car was produced before then.

 

[KKHN]

Sorry, buut this P1 business and licensing business is driving me up the wall. I may be wrong, but I'm almost certain that Forza announced some form of partnership with McLaren during Microsoft's E3 press conference when they brought a P1 onto the stage. HOPEFULLY, this will clarify things. On my phone at the moment so unfortunately unable to check for myself.

Yes, Forza 5 was presentend at E3 with a P1 on the stage... but this doesn't mean the car is a Forza exclusive.
The McLaren P1 has already been announced for Project CARS and NFS: Rivals.

Anybody else notice they've placed the Dodge Charger SRT8 in the SRT category? Only the Viper should be in the SRT slot.

PD/Sony, I'm counting on you to fix it.

Yes, and also old Vipers are under SRT.

I don't like it, is not historically correct.

 

[Flying Scots]

As for car counts... *sigh*
I think every proper Gran Turismo fan appreciates classic cars and motorsport history being a big part of it. However, it is true that the balance has shifted. I'm not talking about all the GT-R's or MX-5's, but the lack of modern cars. I remember playing GT3 and 4 and being excited by all the most recent cars, fast and slow, but for some reason in GT5... It slipped a bit. Even the new cars were 2 years out of date when the game came out.
I love Gran Turismo, but I get where these 'moaners' are coming from. GT used to have all the new stuff, until GT5 it was normal. The fanbase accepted that 5 wasn't everything it could have been, but expected a return to norm for 6, with an up to date game.
Long story short, it's PD who's standards slipped, and there's no way around it, and that's kinda gutting for long-term fans like me =/

This is precisely the point for me. These damn 40-50 duplicate, that in my view remove space for the latest market news. As I said in another post, removing these duplicates would be possible to balance the vast car fleet of GT6, making it more appealing to almost anyone.
These cars steal space not only to the latest models, but also to the beautiful (and unfortunately only) apparitions of GT2 (the Venturi, for example).

The problem these days with PD is that they take 6 months to make a car for the game, and with such a small amount of staff that means by the time they're finished and the games released those cars that were new at the time are a year or 2, or even 3 years old. It's the price we pay to have such beautiful looking cars in the game I guess.

Would increase the staff then, because 6 months for a car is simply unacceptable

Also, for fans of race cars, Super GT entered into a partership with DTM to have same spec cars and possible cross series stuff fron 2014, so maybe DTM will appear at some point in GT6 given PD's close relationship with Super GT.

I hope sincerely in this (even if i like more the old Super GT spec)

 

[sepulturite]

Would increase the staff then, because 6 months for a car is simply unacceptable

As I said in another post, that's not going to happen I'd say, PD seem happy to do what they're doing the way they're doing it.

 

[Metfanant]

To add, only the new 3rd Generation Viper should be in the SRT Category. The old vipers should stay in the dodge or Chrysler category.

Edit: Also the Dodge Ram should stay with Dodge, not with RAM since the car was produced before then.

dont let a Viper owner hear you call the SRT Vipers 3rd Generation...

 

[eSZee]

Anybody else notice they've placed the Dodge Charger SRT8 in the SRT category? Only the Viper should be in the SRT slot.

PD/Sony, I'm counting on you to fix it.

I thought all SRT models cars were now moved over to SRT?

 

[CorvetteConquer]

I thought all SRT models cars were now moved over to SRT?

Dodge still makes the Charger SRT8 and the Challenger SRT8 models. Only the the new Viper is SRT now. It's likely another mistake (unless PD worked out something with SRT). But if it's truly an error, then it should be addressed in GT6's manufacturer room soon...or perhaps via update because the game is likely already coded and being copied.

 

[THA JABBERWOCKY]

Can't beleive no one is happy about the Aston Martin one-77. Sexy car.

I did hear praise on the fxx.

What about the fact that were now getting a 4dr charger srt8?

And these are just a few I was surprised made it into the game.

 

[sk8er913]

Can't beleive no one is happy about the Aston Martin one-77. Sexy car.

I did hear praise on the fxx.

What about the fact that were now getting a 4dr charger srt8?

And these are just a few I was surprised made it into the game.

Honestly, none of those cars interest me at all, but i have said before, overall all I am very happy in the new list.

Would increase the staff then, because 6 months for a car is simply unacceptable

Not really true, PD pushes out a new car approx once every 4 work days. Each car takes them 3-6 Months in man hours. But when you have 10 people working on the same car and you have 2-3 cars being worked on at the same time. They get pushed out pretty quickly.

Edit: didn't notice that i double posted, sorry.

 

[CorvetteConquer]

If you look at some of the car choices, it seems PD's internet forum scavenger team did well in some areas. Particularly: Premium Cadillac, Pontiac, Plymouth, Diablo GT, Diablo GT2, Mustang Boss 302, Shelby GT500 Mustang, Charger SRT8, and some rally/race cars.

I know they're holding back for DLC, but the lack of modern RUFs, or heck, even classic premium RUFs, is sickening. The absence of Sweden's Koenigsegg is bizarre, too, especially for a game of this calibur. Hopefully, these trends are reversed in the coming months. And hopefully not at an outrageous price!

 

[Jarnac]

Anybody else notice they've placed the Dodge Charger SRT8 in the SRT category? Only the Viper should be in the SRT slot.

PD/Sony, I'm counting on you to fix it.

Dodge still makes the Charger SRT8 and the Challenger SRT8 models. Only the the new Viper is SRT now. It's likely another mistake (unless PD worked out something with SRT). But if it's truly an error, then it should be addressed in GT6's manufacturer room soon...or perhaps via update because the game is likely already coded and being copied.

http://www.drivesrt.com/

 

[wicken]

http://www.drivesrt.com/

It's still a mistake because they should only have the 2011 Dodge Challenger SRT and the 2013 SRT Viper GTS there. The other Dodge models are pre-2008 so they were still made by Dodge.

 

[ICEMAN_ZIDANE]

Lol funny theory. So you think you increase the people for each car and then it will be finished in a shorter Time? LoL

Thats inpossible, it would not work if 30-50 people work on one car.
Everyone has his ability, for example someone makes the exterior some other the lights...

I heard it 2 times that it takes (3-)6 months for each car.

But i like it because its just AWESOME if you see that the car looks same like the real one.

 

[TheNxtGenGT]

Can't wait to drive all of the new cars! Especially this monster!

 

[TokoTurismo]

Can't wait to drive all of the new cars! Especially this monster!

That thing was in FM4 added via DLC. Glad its here in GT6, as well the newer Pikes Peak racer and classic racer. Woohoo!

 

[jlmcmillan1978]

I disagree with this part. I think it's PD that brought it on themselves by not taking the GT3 approach from the get-go and removing the content that was completely outdated. You can't expect the people not to notice/ complain when the difference in quality between cars in a car game is so dramatic. How they didn't see the backlash coming is beyond me.

I do wonder what they'll do with their next game on the PS4. Are they going to work on them further to advertise 1k+ cars again? Are they going to ditch them altogether? I would personaly prefer the latter, I think the premium car number, including the future DLC, will be at a point where there's no need for extra padding. 550-600 cars ought to be enough.

I couldn't agree with this more. It seems that too many people complained in the wake of GT3, saying it wasn't as good as GT2 just because it didn't have as many cars. Is it just me or can anyone else remember what a massive leap the graphics were from GT2 to GT3? It was awesome, I didn't get why people couldn't understand that remodeling the cars to that level took time, too much for them to have the massive amount of cars that GT2 had. I think that most appreciate the standards being in the game but they don't really count to me. I would have been just fine with them taking the GT3 approach, & wish they had done so with both GT5 & GT6.