GT7 Circuit Experience Overly Difficult....

danjama
Currently 1.5 seconds off the gold on Maggiore. Despite golding all sectors. No TC, -2 brake bias. Fed up with it now, bed time. Any tips?
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Relax, redo the sectors until you feel pretty comfortable with each sector, and then go after the full lap. There are some pretty demanding sectors, and if you screw one up that's enough to get off the gold time.
 
Finally got a lucky bounce and golded Sardegna Windmills, after constantly getting thrown into the wall, before the finish line. Car was almost straight up over the last jump, but landed pointing in the right direction, and beat the gold time by .8
 
I think they pretty much nailed it with the difficulty of the CE, at least from my perspective. I've managed to gold all I tried so far, but I really had to work on some for a while. And I find it a lot more satisfying, if you start out with what you thought was a decent try of a 30s sector and discover you're 2,5s off the gold time. And little by little you work yourself closer until you finally get it.

That approach really works wonders in understanding a track (and a lot of times, also the car!) and achieves what it sets out to do. There's some sectors where the times are really too easy, and I just know from my own experience that when you are able to gold them on the first or second try, you don't learn anything. It's when you constantly repeat the same sector over and over that you manage to really get better and your full lap times benefit.
 
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snowgt
I think they pretty much nailed it with the difficulty of the CE, at least from my perspective. I've managed to gold all I tried so far, but I really had to work on some for a while. And I find it a lot more satisfying, if you start out with what you thought was a decent try of a 30s sector and discover you're 2,5s off the gold time. And little by little you work yourself closer until you finally get it.

That approach really works wonders in understanding a track (and a lot of times, also the car!) and achieves what it sets out to do. There's some sectors where the times are really too easy, and I just know from my own experience that when you are able to gold them on the first or second try, you don't learn anything. It's when you constantly repeat the same sector over and over that you manage to really get better and your full lap times benefit.
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Agree, is probably my fav element of singleplayer. Also nice that thx to big money reward I don’t have to repetetivly grind same boring race at all to get platinum.
 
austindeckerGT5
I now have them all gold

I have 100% gold on all the circuit experiences on GTS but some of these on GT7 are quite unbearable, even on my T300RS. Like, I am honestly to the point if I keep trying to get gold on the GT7 ones, I will stop playing the game lol. Everyone thinks the license test are hard, wait til they try some tracks in Circuit Experience. Tell me why PD thought it was a great idea to make these way harder for no reason. Some tracks I am over a second off, even on a wheel, so I am sorry for the controller users. Also went back to sport and the same sector 1 on Suzuka has the gold requirement 5 seconds slower. GT7 wants you to get a 33.600 where GTS wants a 38.900 with basically the same Gr.3 NSX, and GTS is lenient on track limits and walls. GT7 is strict just like the Licenses so I think PD either has to adjust the gold requirements and give more freedom on track limits like GTS or allow us to use our own cars.

Btw I am absolutely loving the game otherwise but man Circuit Experience is quite deceiving lol
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Agree! Also, I raced my ghost (starting at the same time). I beat it, but still over .5 second slower time. How is that?
 
More than anything it's the stupid tires. Their sliding or inability in letting the car stop well enough makes most of the CE events challenging.
 
Just completed all golds and it was by far the most fun I've had with the game. I'm a pretty mediocre controller player and had no intention of going for all golds initially. Just started with a couple of my favorite tracks when the payouts got added, found I enjoyed it so I kept doing a couple more each day and now... they're all done. In addition to being a lot of fun, the process made me much better at the game. Shortly after launch it was a struggle for me to gold all the licenses, but I went back to try a couple today and found them to be trivially easy compared to CE.

Some shoutouts of memorable tracks:
Car/track combos that I loved but were immediately over with lenient gold times - Suzuka, Fuji, Spa, Nurb GP
Least enjoyable - Willow Springs (all of them), Tokyo Expressway (all of them), Brands Hatch, Colorado Springs, Sardegna Windmills
Most enjoyable - Laguna Seca, Autopolis, Bathurst, St. Croix, Nordschleife, Le Mans
Most challenging - Le Mans. Nothing else was even close to this for me.

Updates I'd like to see:
  • Platinum/diamond target times matching the demo ghost
  • Global leaderboards with ghosts
  • Split times vs the ghost you have loaded

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and please give us Gr.1 races so I can deploy this newfound skill somewhere
 
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Laguna seca done. I was apprehensive reading how hard may found it but I got the whole thing done in about an hour. The track was new to me so learnt it as I went. I found the sectors very easy, maybe too easy as cleared them too quick and didn’t imprint them to memory so the full lap took a while.
The viper is a very easy car to drive. You’ve got to really go some to spin it out. It’s happy to go sideways and you can recover it even when it’s way out of control. Quite good fun.
 
Hey everybody, quick post here since I really had big fun the past two hours. I've been throwing the Mazda RX Vision around Trial Mountain and that's been the most insane thing for me so far. :cheers: Especially sector 1 as you have to go full risk through the first three turns - it's make or break if you're going for Gold or even beat the demo ghost here. :lol: Feels great how you can steer the car on the throttle at highest speeds. And somehow I got reminded of the days when I was hunting Dan Hollands GT4 world records.

Sorry for being off topic somehow - now back to "GT7 CE overly difficult". :D
 
Just spent ages on Barcelona before seeing I'd got gold at some point without even realising :/

1:46.6, over half a season inside the target.

Annoyingly my S3 best is still 0.018 off and am struggling to beat that. No big prize for me yet.
 
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ROCKET JOE
Hey everybody, quick post here since I really had big fun the past two hours. I've been throwing the Mazda RX Vision around Trial Mountain and that's been the most insane thing for me so far. :cheers: Especially sector 1 as you have to go full risk through the first three turns - it's make or break if you're going for Gold or even beat the demo ghost here. :lol: Feels great how you can steer the car on the throttle at highest speeds. And somehow I got reminded of the days when I was hunting Dan Hollands GT4 world records.

Sorry for being off topic somehow - now back to "GT7 CE overly difficult". :D
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Once I had the first corners down it was extremely surprising to me how you need to brake so early before the tunnel and maintain control of this car after the wild ride thru the early corners.
 
fastone371
Once I had the first corners down it was extremely surprising to me how you need to brake so early before the tunnel and maintain control of this car after the wild ride thru the early corners.
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You're right. I've golded the full lap 2 hours ago and that's been a lot of work. Incredible fun though I must say. I'm still a second behind the demo but that's ok for now and a total of 80 km of practicing. I'll beat that guy later this year. :lol:
 
Some events have a pretty spot on difficulty curve, however it's those few which make this challenge extremly annoying.
Full lap on Laguna Seca, Willow Springs, Brands Hatch etc. are very enjoyable but some are a real pain. Nordschleife for example is pretty well balanced.

Also, I find it funny that we need to gold 6 Tokyo layouts. Wonder why is that hm...
Also, I really miss Tokyo R246.
 
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nummer0
Some events have a pretty spot on difficulty curve, however it's those few which make this challenge extremly annoying.
Full lap on Laguna Seca, Willow Springs, Brands Hatch etc. are very enjoyable but some are a real pain. Nordschleife for example is pretty well balanced.

Also, I find it funny that we need to gold 6 Tokyo layouts. Wonder why is that hm...
Also, I really miss Tokyo R246.
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Brands and Laguna were pretty straightforward for me but Nordschliefe was the hardest thing I’ve ever done in a game. So I guess it’s pretty balanced if we’re all struggling at different things.
 
nummer0
Some events have a pretty spot on difficulty curve, however it's those few which make this challenge extremly annoying.
Full lap on Laguna Seca, Willow Springs, Brands Hatch etc. are very enjoyable but some are a real pain. Nordschleife for example is pretty well balanced.

Also, I find it funny that we need to gold 6 Tokyo layouts. Wonder why is that hm...
Also, I really miss Tokyo R246.
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I'm assuming there is a circuit experience for all layouts?

That said I'm really hating this Tokyo series. Both East layouts were demanding as well as Central Counterclockwise. That before last corner on Central reverse is so tough. I'm losing a ton there.

I'm through 4/6 of them - the regular layouts and East reverse.
 
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Uday9479
More than anything it's the stupid tires. Their sliding or inability in letting the car stop well enough makes most of the CE events challenging.
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That's a totally stupid and pointless view of things. The CE are designed in such a way that they can be created with the specific vehicle and the defined setup.
Anyone who now has other tires such as "Soft" calls, has somehow understood nothing.

Yes, with soft you can reach higher cornering speeds, but then the time for gold would also have to be adjusted, which means that you have to move the soft to the limit just like the hard tires. And maybe you haven't noticed it yet, but... The hard tires have less grip but a "wider" limit area, which means there is more "space" between optimal speed and "sorry too fast".
With soft tires, the limit comes later, but if you exceed it, you either don't catch the car at all, or only when you are significantly slower than with hard tires.

tldr...learn proper driving with what is provided to you.....because that's what the CE is all about...it's not a "make a wish" event after all.
 
Things may have gotten a lot easier for people that haven't finished these already. Just tried Deep Forest, Nordschleife, Le Mans and... you have to really be trying to spin these cars now. Trying with full lock steering and full throttle in 1st and a) there's way less slip than before b) you can easily just countersteer out once a slip starts. The ever-present knife edge of binning it on Porsche curves is pretty much gone.

My first impression is that they overcorrected on this, but I probably just need some time to adjust.

edit: I'm glad I completed these before the patch. Blasting past the demo ghost on corner exit because you can use more throttle than them feels pretty deflating.
 
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notanon
Things may have gotten a lot easier for people that haven't finished these already. Just tried Deep Forest, Nordschleife, Le Mans and... you have to really be trying to spin these cars now. Trying with full lock steering and full throttle in 1st and a) there's way less slip than before b) you can easily just countersteer out once a slip starts. The ever-present knife edge of binning it on Porsche curves is pretty much gone.

My first impression is that they overcorrected on this, but I probably just need some time to adjust.
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If that's really the case... all CE have become useless and absolute....

To hell with it if it's as simple as an acard game!!!!



Time to say goodbye to the game when it's gotten so easy.
 
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xMAXIx79
If that's really the case... all CE have become useless and absolute....

To hell with it if it's as simple as an acard game!!!!



Time to say goodbye to the game when it's gotten so easy.
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If something is hard it doesnt meen is correct or sim. Audi r8 deep forest sector 2 and peugeot gr1 le mans last sector behaviours didnt have much sense imo.
 
snc
If something is hard it doesnt meen is correct or sim. Audi r8 deep forest sector 2 and peugeot gr1 le mans last sector behaviours didnt have much sense imo.
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Didn't make much sense for you, but for me it did, that these are special cars in extraordinary situations and if you understood how to move them there... it really wasn't a serious problem.

Anyway... it annoys me when they change something when you should have changed completely different things.
 
Still waiting for a fix for Colorado Springs. Invisible walls make it one of the hardest circuit experiences. I would say the hardest, but I haven't finished Nordschleife yet.
 
For me CE has been the most interesting and rewarding part of GT7. I find myself tackling a new course everyday, some are easy whereas others need to be chipped away at over time. The frustrating aspect makes it all the more satisfying when you do finally gold them. The big payouts also help the motivation!

I agree with people saying CE makes you a better driver; you are forced to learn the nuances of each car and play to its strengths and weaknesses to extract maximum laptime. Being on a controller makes it harder to be precise and smooth, but they're not impossible times by any stretch.

Today I attempted Interlagos, golded all the sectors relatively easily but still .277 off gold in the 1 lap attack. The GTR loves to understeer, so I find myself trail braking more on corner entry to keep weight over the nose, then being super patient with the throttle until the car is practically out of the corner and straight.
 
I've got all gold for the CE's now.

I got gold for the Leman's 1 lap attack on the first attempt today. I was 2 seconds faster than my best time (0.2 from gold) before patch v1.13. The update seems to have fixed the Porsche curves issue on controller.

Unless it was a first time fluke as I hadn't tried it for a few days, lol
 
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JOEBEEZ
For me CE has been the most interesting and rewarding part of GT7. I find myself tackling a new course everyday, some are easy whereas others need to be chipped away at over time. The frustrating aspect makes it all the more satisfying when you do finally gold them. The big payouts also help the motivation!

I agree with people saying CE makes you a better driver; you are forced to learn the nuances of each car and play to its strengths and weaknesses to extract maximum laptime. Being on a controller makes it harder to be precise and smooth, but they're not impossible times by any stretch.

Today I attempted Interlagos, golded all the sectors relatively easily but still .277 off gold in the 1 lap attack. The GTR loves to understeer, so I find myself trail braking more on corner entry to keep weight over the nose, then being super patient with the throttle until the car is practically out of the corner and straight.
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Are you running the Brake Balance heavily to the rear? That helps massively on this car (as it does on most FR & 4WD cars) and helps turn in whilst trail braking -
 

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