GT7 Circuit Experience Overly Difficult....

[xMAXIx79]

I finally gave up when I got to the Le Mans circuit. I was able to do sector 5 after so many tries, but having to do it at the end of the full lap was just asking too much. I know just what to do to get through there, but the window that I have to aim for is so insanely small that I just can't do it reliably. With four hours put into it I was only able to finish 5 times, all within a second of gold. Everytime I tried to squeeze a little more here or there the car just throws itself from under me.

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Use this. As a steering wheel user, you increase the maximum rotation, as a pad user, you decrease the sensitivity.

 

[BLACK86]

It took me an hour or so to do the 3rd Sector for Alsace Village CE, primarily down to the left hander into the right hand hairpin which cambers one way then the other, which makes it very easy to lock up the unloaded tire.

LOL I remember having trouble with that sector too... I was using a wheel with csp v1's which have a load cell brake.

I actually think it's easier to manage zero abs with the controller than the brake pedal. What do you think? (if you have access to a wheel that is)

If i tweak my pressure dial on my pedals so it takes more force to lock up, which makes it better, my foot starts hurting after a short while.

Maybe I need to clean and relube my brake parts, that should make a difference as I think they could be smoother

 

[xMAXIx79]

LOL I remember having trouble with that sector too... I was using a wheel with csp v1's which have a load cell brake.

I actually think it's easier to manage zero abs with the controller than the brake pedal. What do you think? (if you have access to a wheel that is)

If i tweak my pressure dial on my pedals so it takes more force to lock up, which makes it better, my foot starts hurting after a short while.

Maybe I need to clean and relube my brake parts, that should make a difference as I think they could be smoother

How about just changing the braking points?

For me, this CE was one of the simplest and was completed in a "short break". The car is almost a typical MR car and reacts very sensitively to load changes when braking, especially when you stop pressing the accelerator pedal. Here you should simply change the braking line so that the car can brake as straight as possible or brake in 2 sections with a short break to stabilize.

At least that's my advice.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

There's definitely some inconsistency. Sector 1 on Suzuka was relatively tough. I think the demo was just under 4 tenths on the gold time for a tricky sector. The next sectors were pretty easy. And for the lap I got it after 2 tries under a second over the gold time. The first try I ran off the track.

 

[nummer0]

The biggest problem is inconsistency, let's take Tokyo East Counterclockwise for example - S1 is really easy, 0.5s into gold on first attempt and then S2 which took me over 70km. Same situation is for Suzuka S1.

I stand by what I said previously, I think that not enough pad testing went into most of the tracks, and that most of the challenges, although useful - are not fun to complete since quite a few are very frustrating.

I managed to gold them all but it's a shame there isn't any reward or even a trophy.

 

[Nielsen]

I think the gold target times are reasonable when you consider that the purpose of this game mode is to improve skills. It’s doable but doesn’t come without learning a few things.

The real difficulty-related problem is the way sessions end whenever the car crosses the finish line. This leaves no room for settling into a rhythm over several laps. Multiple restarts only add counterproductive frustration.

 

[MrSJMay73]

I now have them all gold

I have 100% gold on all the circuit experiences on GTS but some of these on GT7 are quite unbearable, even on my T300RS. Like, I am honestly to the point if I keep trying to get gold on the GT7 ones, I will stop playing the game lol. Everyone thinks the license test are hard, wait til they try some tracks in Circuit Experience. Tell me why PD thought it was a great idea to make these way harder for no reason. Some tracks I am over a second off, even on a wheel, so I am sorry for the controller users. Also went back to sport and the same sector 1 on Suzuka has the gold requirement 5 seconds slower. GT7 wants you to get a 33.600 where GTS wants a 38.900 with basically the same Gr.3 NSX, and GTS is lenient on track limits and walls. GT7 is strict just like the Licenses so I think PD either has to adjust the gold requirements and give more freedom on track limits like GTS or allow us to use our own cars.

Btw I am absolutely loving the game otherwise but man Circuit Experience is quite deceiving lol

I've found that having Counter Steer driver aid (strong) helps

 

[hardvibes]

I've found that having Counter Steer driver aid (strong) helps

For me it all depends on the car and track. Sometimes it's best with countersteer off, sometimes low, sometimes strong. Along with all of the other aids, steer sensitivity and even brake balance.
Ex: one section that I could barely get a bronze with countersteer off, even after weeks trying, I golded it after one single try with strong countersteer.
And vice versa.

 

[Doomotron]

I did High Speed Ring this past week or so....I swear the AI ghost looked to be riding the wall in turn 2?

Not riding it, just dangerously close. To be honest this CE taught me the most so far, since I never expected to use a line like the one it used.

 

[snc]

I managed to gold them all but it's a shame there isn't any reward or even a trophy.

46 milions cr is not bad reward imo ;d

 

[Neris__]

I need some tips for Colorado Springs circuit experience. My best lap so far 1:22 (G29 wheel). I didn't change break balance and torque distribution - any tips about those settings?

 

[ROCKET JOE]

I need some tips for Colorado Springs circuit experience. My best lap so far 1:22 (G29 wheel). I didn't change break balance and torque distribution - any tips about those settings?

I did that CE yesterday. I mostly use a 50 : 50 torque distribution on dirt tracks and a brake balance slightly to the rear.
What was killing me first was that there's so little grip under braking, so just be a little more gentle on the throttle, brake earlier
and of course, use the grass both sides of the track. I ended with a sub 1:20 lap. Good luck, mate, you'll get there.

 

[Neris__]

I just did 1:21 with 50:50 torque distribution and +4 rear break balance. I guess those settings made a difference.

I really dislike dirt tracks and drift challenges. Not my thing.

 

[dimassa19]

I just did 1:21 with 50:50 torque distribution and +4 rear break balance. I guess those settings made a difference.

I really dislike dirt tracks and drift challenges. Not my thing.

I got gold today with this torque, 50:50

 

[Lion-Face]

LOL I remember having trouble with that sector too... I was using a wheel with csp v1's which have a load cell brake.

I actually think it's easier to manage zero abs with the controller than the brake pedal. What do you think? (if you have access to a wheel that is)

If i tweak my pressure dial on my pedals so it takes more force to lock up, which makes it better, my foot starts hurting after a short while.

Maybe I need to clean and relube my brake parts, that should make a difference as I think they could be smoother

I have a T300RS wheel and am familiar with No ABS braking with it. I do find the wheels easier than the controller, only because they have more travel with the pedals compared to the triggers on the controller, allowing my foot to dial in the right position better and better modulate the brakes as need be.

But everyone will have their own preference and I do think the controller has become a lot easier to use compared previous games.

How about just changing the braking points?

For me, this CE was one of the simplest and was completed in a "short break". The car is almost a typical MR car and reacts very sensitively to load changes when braking, especially when you stop pressing the accelerator pedal. Here you should simply change the braking line so that the car can brake as straight as possible or brake in 2 sections with a short break to stabilize.

At least that's my advice.

I didn't find the Renault to be too difficult for a MR car, in fact quite stable under braking and turn in.

The tricky part being braking while turning, using the most amount of braking force available while not locking up. Not too much of an issue for the rest of the track, but that third sector with it's undulations on the two critical corners for gold is quite tricky.

Did you do it without ABS? Cos if you did and found it easy, you are a better driver than I. I did try the two attempts on the brakes but found that too slow, so it just took some time for me to find the right line to brake with the most amount of force I could without locking up.

 

[MMX]

The most frustrating thing I'm encountering is not being to gold the full lap, after golding the sectors with relative ease. I currently have 4 tracks like this, with the full lap just out of reach, a couple are only a couple tenths off, but might as well be an eternity.

I've been playing GT since the first one, have run countless laps on most of these tracks over the years, and at 51 years old, I'm probably as good as I'm going to get.

And PD needs to do something about the jumps on rally tracks. Sardegna is rage inducing with the wild, and unpredictable landings.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

Not riding it, just dangerously close. To be honest this CE taught me the most so far, since I never expected to use a line like the one it used.

I hated it. I will never be able to manage those lines consistently. I got a handle on sector 1 and 2, but sector 3 was a real pickle. There is no way I will ever be able to manage what the demo did at those speeds right by the barrier. I got gold by 6 hundredths. I lifted slightly before the end, because I thought I was going to clip the barrier. A bit too much and I would've ended up with another silver.

 

[VXR]

I'm comfortably inside bronze on all tracks without taking lots of goes at it, but St. Croix is stringent as heck.

Took a lot of goes to realise that it's a deceptive track with more open turns than they appear. Got there in the end, but I definitely didn't gel with the car and track easily.

One day, I will work at getting gold on each one, I just want easy credits so going for the bare minimum.

 

[xMAXIx79]

My LeManse Playlist. I hope it helps one or the other.. As I already wrote... Gently with the brakes, you rarely need a lot of braking force and if you have to brake hard, reduce the braking force significantly long enough BEFORE you turn in. It is best to work with the engine brake in a curve.

Greetings Maxi

@Lion-Face

I wasn't criticizing the Renault, it lacks a bit of power (compared to the RCZ) AND it can snap if you're really fast. It's still fun, but the last sector has to be driven with caution, as it can become uncomfortable when changing loads.

 

[StevenSpiegel]

Le Mans on a DS4 was hard, but using ASM and counteer-steering light helps a lot.

Only left one lap on St. Croix and Nurburgring.

On Nurburgring, after golded every sector, my first conservative lap (without any risk to finish the lap) was 12 seconds off gold.

Any advice on the settings for a controller? I'm really concerned with this challenge seems to difficult for me and after seeing that I was 12 seconds off I have not been able to try again.

 

[xMAXIx79]

Le Mans on a DS4 was hard, but using ASM and counteer-steering light helps a lot.

Only left one lap on St. Croix and Nurburgring.

On Nurburgring, after golded every sector, my first conservative lap (without any risk to finish the lap) was 12 seconds off gold.

Any advice on the settings for a controller? I'm really concerned with this challenge seems to difficult for me and after seeing that I was 12 seconds off I have not been able to try again.

Do NOT use a countersteering assistant or ASM, you can mitigate everything that can cause you real problems with TCS... TCS+1 is almost mandatory for most drivers and helps a lot without taking up a lot of time. TCS+2 or higher costs noticeably speed, but is also a larger safety net. Try this!

Move the BB to at least +2, I even prefer +4, when riding MT +5 is even better.
Leave ABS on default!

Brake a little earlier, but not too hard and release the brake in good time, i.e. let the car glide/roll more!

 

[NikNakTobasco]

Le Mans on a DS4 was hard, but using ASM and counteer-steering light helps a lot.

Only left one lap on St. Croix and Nurburgring.

On Nurburgring, after golded every sector, my first conservative lap (without any risk to finish the lap) was 12 seconds off gold.

Any advice on the settings for a controller? I'm really concerned with this challenge seems to difficult for me and after seeing that I was 12 seconds off I have not been able to try again.

BB+4 was a big one for me.

 

[skingg]

I did that CE yesterday. I mostly use a 50 : 50 torque distribution on dirt tracks and a brake balance slightly to the rear.
What was killing me first was that there's so little grip under braking, so just be a little more gentle on the throttle, brake earlier
and of course, use the grass both sides of the track. I ended with a sub 1:20 lap. Good luck, mate, you'll get there.

Thank you! Couldn't get close to the gold the other day (was over a second off) and got it on the 3rd run with this!

 

[xMAXIx79]

My new Update. Deep Forest Playlist

 

[Neris__]

Any tips for Barcelona-Catalunya track? Did you change brake balance in this Huracan?

Btw. demonstrations for circuit experience in Gran Turismo 7 are a lot worse than in GT Sport. Videos with commentary (GT Sport) are a lot better than just a gameplay demonstration.

 

[AlexWilmot]

Any tips for Barcelona-Catalunya track? Did you change brake balance in this Huracan?

Btw. demonstrations for circuit experience in Gran Turismo 7 are a lot worse than in GT Sport. Videos with commentary (GT Sport) are a lot better than just a gameplay demonstration.

TC 0, BB 0, coast to apex, apex get on throttle but 60-80%, only go 100% in a straight line

Spoiler: Video

 

[danjama]

Currently 1.5 seconds off the gold on Maggiore. Despite golding all sectors. No TC, -2 brake bias. Fed up with it now, bed time. Any tips?

 

[StevenSpiegel]

Do NOT use a countersteering assistant or ASM, you can mitigate everything that can cause you real problems with TCS... TCS+1 is almost mandatory for most drivers and helps a lot without taking up a lot of time. TCS+2 or higher costs noticeably speed, but is also a larger safety net. Try this!

Move the BB to at least +2, I even prefer +4, when riding MT +5 is even better.
Leave ABS on default!

Brake a little earlier, but not too hard and release the brake in good time, i.e. let the car glide/roll more!

Thanks, got it after several tries, 6:48 was my record, then 6:44, 6:40, 6:39.5 and finally 6:37.768, ****ed up in the last corner, almost get out of the track limit and lost all the momentum, but got gold by 32 miliseconds!

 

[snc]

Just golded Sardenga road and St Croix. Quite easy comparing to Laguna or Autopolis and was surprised as some says they are quite hard. Probably some struggle with gr1 cars and have to say they have probably little too much downforce, can't belive its possible to take some corners in the way is possible in gt7.

 

[nummer0]

Any tips for Barcelona-Catalunya track? Did you change brake balance in this Huracan?

Btw. demonstrations for circuit experience in Gran Turismo 7 are a lot worse than in GT Sport. Videos with commentary (GT Sport) are a lot better than just a gameplay demonstration.

+4 BB, TCS 0, steering sensitivity 3, steering assist strong. Played on DS4.
Worked for me. TCS slows the car too much coming out of the apex.