Pigems
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Except that doesn’t work in top split most days, or at busy times. It’s basically meta or fall behind, those guys don’t make many mistakes to allow you to catch up, and when they do, they’re minor ones.
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Except that doesn’t work in top split most days, or at busy times. It’s basically meta or fall behind, those guys don’t make many mistakes to allow you to catch up, and when they do, they’re minor ones.
Absolutely great strategy call by them though, bamboozled the Turner Motorsports car into not fighting them because there was supposed to be no way they could make it to the end on fuel.
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Had 45 minutes spare and thought I’d do some race B qualifying. Some tracks just don’t work backwards.
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Anything competing with the Wrx and Gtr in race B?
jrbabbitt
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I was in the F1.
Had lifted off the accelerator and was slowing to roll thru corner, THAT its not a dive bomb, lunge, and definitely not from afar...
Did not dive from way back, I was off the accelerator...and lightly on brakes...
Will post another video with ALL views...
Was slowing down, off accelerator, I had the inside line when the beetle went wide....
I adamantly swear I believe I was in the right, the beetle hit me in the rear corner, I did not hit him but I got two seconds for that.
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I've been doing race C this morning, in my trusty old (worn) Lexus. It's no beetle killer by far. Even when I get alongside on the straight after a much better corner exit, the beetle simple speeds up and the Lexus can't even keep up in the slipstream.
I don't know what PD did to my favorite car. The RC F '17 now needs to lift at Reid park, stay in 3rd, can't make that turn otherwise. Same for Sulman Park right after, lift again and stay in 4th. In GT Sport I could drive up the mountain without lifting off the throttle. I can still get in the high 2:04 laps, but no more 2:03, while the front of the pack goes down to low 2:02 laps in Beetles and WRX.
I guess I should buy a WRX and try that. The Lexus is still good at Skyline, The Esses and The Dipper but you can rarely make a pass there. It's either out braking at The Chase, if you can keep up in the first place, or cheekily slot the car in the inside gap in The Cutting.
Is it that the slipstream is so weak now or is the Lexus so much weaker that draft passing is simply not possible anymore?
Races were pretty clean at least in the top split. I did get some BS lag penalties, lag was bad as always. A couple penalties in the same race (nothing happened, just cars bouncing back and forth from lag) dropped my SR just below 90. I got sorted with A/B to B/B (still B/S myself) which gave me a victory. Back in the top split no chance. I'm lucky if I finish withing 30 sec from the winner, can't keep up with these beetles.
Earlier there was more variety, a Corvette won one race. The rest were all either Beetle or WRX who won. And later more and more Beetles and WRXs started showing up.
Back to sport mode is a cold shower when you see the payouts. 59K for a victory, just over 10% of a Tokyo run before CRB. CRB is weird as always, got it a couple times when I didn't think I had it, didn't get it when I thought I never touched anything, whatever. 1.5 x negligible = still negligible
I don't know what PD did to my favorite car. The RC F '17 now needs to lift at Reid park, stay in 3rd, can't make that turn otherwise. Same for Sulman Park right after, lift again and stay in 4th. In GT Sport I could drive up the mountain without lifting off the throttle. I can still get in the high 2:04 laps, but no more 2:03, while the front of the pack goes down to low 2:02 laps in Beetles and WRX.
I guess I should buy a WRX and try that. The Lexus is still good at Skyline, The Esses and The Dipper but you can rarely make a pass there. It's either out braking at The Chase, if you can keep up in the first place, or cheekily slot the car in the inside gap in The Cutting.
Is it that the slipstream is so weak now or is the Lexus so much weaker that draft passing is simply not possible anymore?
Races were pretty clean at least in the top split. I did get some BS lag penalties, lag was bad as always. A couple penalties in the same race (nothing happened, just cars bouncing back and forth from lag) dropped my SR just below 90. I got sorted with A/B to B/B (still B/S myself) which gave me a victory. Back in the top split no chance. I'm lucky if I finish withing 30 sec from the winner, can't keep up with these beetles.
Earlier there was more variety, a Corvette won one race. The rest were all either Beetle or WRX who won. And later more and more Beetles and WRXs started showing up.
Back to sport mode is a cold shower when you see the payouts. 59K for a victory, just over 10% of a Tokyo run before CRB. CRB is weird as always, got it a couple times when I didn't think I had it, didn't get it when I thought I never touched anything, whatever. 1.5 x negligible = still negligible
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- rodgers1
I watched SuperGT on a live YouTube last week and the skill some of the top drivers have is amazing. Like you say when they make a mistake they still recover and hold position. He used the Swift Gr4 on race B and managed to finish P3. Apart from losing positions on the straights through the corners he was able to hold position. If that was me I’d be dead last by the first corner.
That was nice dummy to force them into an error. 👍🏻
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Had a bit of time so I gave Daily B a go. Did some quali laps in between races. Honestly, I can't even remember my quali time... pretty sure it was 1:34.2X. I was usually starting in 3rd/4th/5th and finishing in those same places. Best finish was a P3 in the Subaru less than .750" behind P1. For the life of me, I can't figure out that T3 or whatever that tight right is.
Cashed in my three star ticket for the lowest amount of 10k.
Was watching a stream of an A+ lobby in Daily C and the top three finishes were two Subarus and the Gensis X. Maybe there is hope.
Cashed in my three star ticket for the lowest amount of 10k.
Was watching a stream of an A+ lobby in Daily C and the top three finishes were two Subarus and the Gensis X. Maybe there is hope.
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You can rent the WRX and try it out before u buy itI guess I should buy a WRX and try that.
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Then definitely not correct.
I am thinking 34.2. Updating my original post.
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33.2? EMEA mid 32s seems to be the time to aim for. I can’t quite reach that yet but didn’t have much time. It’s an awkward combo as the severe understeer and the decreasing radius turns make corner exits feel a bit clumsy. Definitely will take some getting used to this week.Then definitely not correct.
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This is how far you went into the corner despite bouncing off the Beetle:
That's literally the point at which you stopped travelling perpendicular to the corner, trying to turn against your direction of travel (or "understeering"), and started to move in the correct radius, after contact with the Beetle. And the contact with the Beetle would have slowed your progress perpendicular to the corner, so that's how far you understeered despite contact correcting your course.
To reiterate, if the Beetle hadn't been there to help slow you down, you'd be in the outside barriers. Somewhere around two thirds of the way round the turn.
jrbabbitt
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Currently at work, I will look very carefully at the video again tonight when I get home and with open mind with what you are saying I will also create another video of all different views for further investigation. I trust your word in matters of this and abide by judgment but I want to look closer at my own evidence with an open unbiased view. Not admitting my fault yet, but will if proven wrong.
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I mean; I'm glad I didn't get a penalty but I'm not sure how all 3 of us got away without one. Jump to 3:53 for the fun.
Man I cannot get to grips with deep forest backwards! Esxpecially the quick ledt followed by the tight right hand hairpin!
Shocking qualifying, shocking race... on the plus side after that race it has dropped me back down to B S lobbies so had a go at race C and came 2nd on my first attempt. Loved the night to day transition and I'm sure i can qualify much better for the next race.
Shocking qualifying, shocking race... on the plus side after that race it has dropped me back down to B S lobbies so had a go at race C and came 2nd on my first attempt. Loved the night to day transition and I'm sure i can qualify much better for the next race.
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- schlafhund
Trying to drive something else than WRX in A+ is... pointless. Honestly can’t be arsed to give a **** about DR anymore (they hid it anyway, so what’s the point?).
I really wonder and question what I’m doing with my time when I do races like this one linked. Apologies for subpar video quality, couldn’t be bothered to get the capture card out for such a stupid race.
I really wonder and question what I’m doing with my time when I do races like this one linked. Apologies for subpar video quality, couldn’t be bothered to get the capture card out for such a stupid race.
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Not trying to pile on, but you sure quoted a lot of people who think the penalty was justified.
Just my thoughts, but that looked like a very typical dive bomb. Whether you're off the accelerator or not doesn't matter; you still [seemed to] cut the track and aim towards the apex. The Beetle wasn't running wide, he was on the racing line starting on the outside, and turning into the apex, which is where you guys met. If I were the Beetle driver, I wouldn't have expected anyone to be on my inside there based on the spacing alone.
My $.02.
Pigems
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Went for a rip in the WRX around Deep Forrest Reverse, hadn’t driven it backwards yet. I like it though, maybe even better than the other way around lol. Got down to a 1:32.5 by the end of the session, might have to do a few of these this week, I like the track.
Based on the video given, in comparison to real life it was very similar to what Max Verstappen did on countless occasions last year to Lewis Hamilton - really late attempts and expecting the driver infront to move out of the way. I'm sure your intention wasn't that, but the overtake attempt ended up becoming that kind of scenario. Overtaking at that part of the track is very rare to begin with, most of the time you try to get a slipstream through that long curve and late brake at the hairpin.
Its quite a late attempt i'd say, and overshoots a bit, however the Beetle does just turn in like he's not there while thers more then enough space (that turn is quite wide). I'd say both are probably to blame for it equally (aka racing incident), but yea thats not how the penalty system works...
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Yeah it's hard to fully tell, we'll have to wait for the front view for full analysis of course. The Beetle did seem to turn into him but I don't think Beetle expected an overtake from that far back. I most likely would have turned into the Mclaren too in that situation.
Edit: Also the racing line is actually swooping in from the right hand side too at a very high speed. It's unusual to overtake there because normally it's a train following another car through the curve. If someone were to overtake through the inside there, the speed difference is too great for the lead car to do anything about it other than completely going wide, in which case they'd lose seconds of time.
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Daily race C is the only one that interest me this week. Haven't done any races yet since I haven't done Bathurst in a long time. Just working on quali time so far.
Got down to a 2:02.9 in the Lancer which feels quite nice around here. My trusty Genesis from last week however is awful here. So unless I find a heap more time with the Beetle or Subaru it looks like ill be running the Lancer this week.
Got down to a 2:02.9 in the Lancer which feels quite nice around here. My trusty Genesis from last week however is awful here. So unless I find a heap more time with the Beetle or Subaru it looks like ill be running the Lancer this week.
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Corvette can't even keep up with the Beetle on the straights on Race C. So when do we get a proper BOP?
