GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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we were both on the same lap, C/B mixed lobby. it was a dive but a calculated one, I made the corner with no contact no track limit violation, I know it was aggressive but it’s race B at Monza, when in Rome
Did he have to move off of his intended line to avoid hitting you? If so, it may not have been the best move. Diving in like that is a good way to have someone turn in on you, and isn’t really considered a “safe” pass most of the time.

Would there have been contact if your car didn’t ghost?
 
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We’re you or him down a lap? Or GTS used to ghost more in D-C lobbies as well, than in A-B lobbies.
I was at A/S yesterday at Monza, when I went too deep entering the first chicane.
I had to almost stop to make the right turn within track limits. As soon as it looked like I might go over the line, my car was ghosted. I don't think I was close to running into anyone. :confused:
 
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@xMAXIx79 hey Man, what‘s your Qualifying Time on Monza in the Jaguar.
It’s such a good Car, i use it quite often across all sorts of tracks and always get decent Results.
So far I managed a 1:47.8 but messed up the mid Sector and lost 3 tenths there.
So 1:47.4-5 but I can’t be bothered to hit that “perfect Lap“

I only had a few rounds to set a time yesterday. My first "good" lap was a 1.48.7xx with a 1.48.6xx optimum. However, I felt that 1.47, xxx would be quite achievable with more practice. Unfortunately my steering wheel gave up the ghost at the beginning of my second race. And at Thrustmaster somehow nobody responds and Fanatec well don't have anything available, but they don't respond to requests either.

AND that where I have vacation from tomorrow.
 
Ran my first race C last night...qualified 11th with a 1:26:3xx in a room full of A/A+ / S.

I have a couple thousand races under my belt in GT Sport and I can tell you that I have never been punted as hard as I was going into turn 1 last night...I'm talking shadow realm level punt....like far end of the sand trap level punt.

How can you be ranked A/A+ / S and be so far off going into turn 1 lap 1 that you hit someone thar hard?

I hope I'm on the outside next race so I can just pull out of line and stop before the corner...I will save me from being down half a lap right off the bat.
 
Just tried the BRZ, from 5th thanks to my mustang qualifying and was 13th by end of lap 1, would have been last if not for a couple of penalties I could pass.

You'd think PD would have made an effort to make the thing somewhat competitive as a showcase for their new addition.
 
I don't know why, but my threshold for outrage at Turn 1 is significantly higher than usual for this week's Race C!!

10 lap race means there's a chance to recover. Even the best drivers can make big errors during the course of the race, especially with tyre wear. Also the mechanical damage factor is a deterrent against intentional wrecking, and collateral damage from bad driving usually half fair at least.

It helps that the race is a bunch of fun altogether!
 
Just tried the BRZ, from 5th thanks to my mustang qualifying and was 13th by end of lap 1, would have been last if not for a couple of penalties I could pass.

You'd think PD would have made an effort to make the thing somewhat competitive as a showcase for their new addition.


The BRZ urgently needs a winding track with few long high-power straights... then it will be able to shine. Its advantages are the high downforce and thus higher cornering speeds, paired with ultra-precise handling.
 
I definitely think penalty system & BOP with some cars need an overhaul, the penalty for intentionally punting & full speed knocking drivers off road should be more than 5 secs, because depending on where you land off road, 5 secs dont make a difference as you are well more than 5 secs behind that even with them getting penalty, you dont catch up to them, only ones benefiting are the ones who were not punted off road
Agreed! Especially in this weeks C race. I got punted off the track a few times and the runoffs are so big that i basically ended up at the rear. Also the tires in the F1 cars lose their grip/overheat when you get punted off so then I get back on the track and spin out again!!
 
Not to excited for any of the races this week. I like Monza fine, I'm just burned out on Gr. 3.

And break out the pitch forks but I just loathe open wheel. Lol Sorry I've just never understood the appeal, I've tried to get into it but just can't.

I did have a go in a few cars for Race B though. 48.6 in the WRX. At least another .5 or so there for me. The Jag was really nice and is capable of 48's. The Aston felt amazing but I couldn't get the time out of it. I may have another go in it. It was a treat to drive.
 
Well I actually did some online racing in my stream this week but it was pretty 'meh' results, I am trying to focus on Race B since that seems to be the one I am best at this week but am making no progress at all in my rankings.

I was thinking I might at least get to DR C but it still seems to be stuck on DR D, gonna have some more racing later in the week so will see how things go there, average finish is about 7-5th so I guess I am not 'beating' enough drivers with lower points than me at the moment.

It would be nice to at least be able to see the data again, I cannot understand why this has to be so protected now, the more information you have the better you can understand how to improve/learn mistakes in races.
Assuming the race starts with a full grid (not always guaranteed) finishing 7th will only gain you 1 persons worth of DR points in race B so it's going to be quite a slow grind & it depends on how far back you're having to come from (if you lost loads of races at the start it'll take time to earn those points back).

One thing I would say is having a decent qualifying time is super important in these races, it's worth putting a chunk of time in there because if you're starting nearer the front it helps you avoid the 1st corner carnage then it's just a matter of holding on & hoping those in front mess up.

I found D>C took an age but C>B was probably a quarter of the number of races, though this was helped by having way less disconnects (treated as a loss, same as rage quitting).
 
Been trying different GT3 cars for qualy in Monza and MR cars are at a slight disadvantage to FR. Only did around 5 laps with each car as first I want to find the one I like driving best on the track. So far best times with each are:

  • Beetle/ GTR: 1:49:7
  • WRX: 1:49:9
  • Castrol Supra (Legend): 1:50:1
  • Z4: 1:50:2
  • McLaren F1: 1:50:9
  • 99 NISMO GT500 (Legend): 1:49:5 (!!)

Still want to try a few more and then obviously do a lot more laps as nowhere near the current top with 1:46:X but pleasantly surprised with the old NISMO 🙂

Audi LM is crap and also the Atenza isn't good either, which is weird since it was the best Gr4 car in the previous Daily B in Monza.

Also did 2 races and started 16th in an A lobby and finished 9th and started 7th and finished 4th in B lobby, which is my rating. People get a lot of penalties so be patient and you'll move up without issues 😁
I ran a little under 1:48 with the WRX not because I want to but because I have to just to get decent position on the grid. Sadly, yes the Audi is garbage, along with (strangely) the 458, and my beloved RSR which are all nerfed beyond belief. Example: on the run down to the first chicane my RSR can hit ~161-2 top speed, the WRX will hit ~166-7.

I can run a 1:47 in the Monza "track experience" one lap attack (I know the bop figures are different). I just cannot understand why PD continues to put up with or think that Beetles and WRXs should continue to dominate pole in the Gr.3 (GT3) category across numerous world circuits. Am I daft? Am I out of line here with this thinking? It just seems if there were more balance and a myriad of cars could be in the "top 10" besides the same aforementioned, it would make the challenge and race infinitely more appealing and FUN instead of defacto one make hot lap races. Thanks for reading.
 

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I can only recommend anyone who doesn't want to drive a Beetle or WRX to test drive the Jaguar. It drives really phenomenal, has more power than WRX and Beetle, as well as good brakes...
With you banging on about this I decided to take it for a spin and got a win straight away, my 6th so far in GT7, chuffed with that :cheers:

And overtaking a WRX for it, who messed up turn 1 cos he was too busy trying to shove me off into the grass on the run in, well that made it even sweeter.
 
How can you be ranked A/A+ / S and be so far off going into turn 1 lap 1 that you hit someone thar hard?

I hope I'm on the outside next race so I can just pull out of line and stop before the corner...I will save me from being down half a lap right off the bat.
I wonder if the tires are still cold on the first lap? Does that matter I’m this game? I ran trials for half an hour yesterday to learn race C, but as soon as the race went live I flew right on through turn 1 like I had never driven before. And I had a lot of company as half the field followed me right into the gravel. Every lap after that was fine, except for when the tires start to give out on lap 9 or so.
 
With you banging on about this I decided to take it for a spin and got a win straight away, my 6th so far in GT7, chuffed with that :cheers:

And overtaking a WRX for it, who messed up turn 1 cos he was too busy trying to shove me off into the grass on the run in, well that made it even sweeter.
I have been lookin for a race i could try the jag or othwr car in besides my fav beetle, there are couple other cars i want to try as well, including viper
 
Did he have to move off of his intended line to avoid hitting you? If so, it may not have been the best move. Diving in like that is a good way to have someone turn in on you, and isn’t really considered a “safe” pass most of the time.

Would there have been contact if your car didn’t ghost?

the move was successfully completed and I didn’t ghost until I was fully in the chicane with the overtaken car behind me and I was negotiating T2.. yes it may not have been the best move but it was fantastically brave and firmly on the legal side of things
 
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the move was successfully completed and I didn’t ghost until I was fully in the chicane with the overtaken car behind me and I was negotiating T2.. yes it may not have been the best move but it was fantastically brave and firmly on the legal side of things
Well, without the video we can’t really say that. Any move where you don’t have at least some overlap, before the car ahead turns his wheels to start his turn in, is a late move that is your fault if contact happens because of it. So just because he may have been heads up and avoided you this time, don’t make a habit of those kind of moves, not everyone runs bumper cam with the radar and mirror to see your late move coming and avoid it, it won’t end well most of the time. Race smarter, not harder, leave the bravery at home and just make calm, smart decisions on track. You’ll finish Ali more races with a CRB that way and move up a lot faster. :)
 
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someone else above said they ghosted when they ran deep on the chicane with no other cars nearby sounds like the most likely cause, it’s unfortunate it happened I never really intended to have a multi message rant about it though just thought it was a strange occurrence! thanks for the input though
 
I ran a little under 1:48 with the WRX not because I want to but because I have to just to get decent position on the grid. Sadly, yes the Audi is garbage, along with (strangely) the 458, and my beloved RSR which are all nerfed beyond belief. Example: on the run down to the first chicane my RSR can hit ~161-2 top speed, the WRX will hit ~166-7.

I can run a 1:47 in the Monza "track experience" one lap attack (I know the bop figures are different). I just cannot understand why PD continues to put up with or think that Beetles and WRXs should continue to dominate pole in the Gr.3 (GT3) category across numerous world circuits. Am I daft? Am I out of line here with this thinking? It just seems if there were more balance and a myriad of cars could be in the "top 10" besides the same aforementioned, it would make the challenge and race infinitely more appealing and FUN instead of defacto one make hot lap races. Thanks for reading.
I'm not one to give up (ever) but after about 50 laps with WRX and GTR I will admit that this track with BOP GT3 cars as the standard, I cannot go any faster than 1:49:4. I've seen the track guides from Kireth and another YouTuber I follow, did everything similar (to the best of my ability) but I'm always a few tenths shy in each sector.

However, I am quite consistent at around 1:51:2 during a race and as I don't give up, by staying away from trouble, I'm starting from 9th - 13th and always finishing top 6 so not complaining too much...
 
someone else above said they ghosted when they ran deep on the chicane with no other cars nearby sounds like the most likely cause, it’s unfortunate it happened I never really intended to have a multi message rant about it though just thought it was a strange occurrence! thanks for the input though
Not a rant at all man, just trying to give you some info that will help you make smarter passes going forward, as you level up, that’s all. Late moves are low reward, high risk, and not worth it 95% of the time is all. 👍
 
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I wish they would remove the DR letter rating. IMHO it causes more problems than it’s worth. Folk seem preoccupied with either improving it or protecting it with little consideration as to how they do it.

Fine, keep some sort of ranking system. Just don’t tell us about it and simply use robust matching.

To be honest, they should redo the whole Sport mode system entirely. It’s less informative, intuitive & equitable than GTS. BoP, matching, penalties, intuitive design, track/car selection, connection stability…..you name it, it’s broken.

Admit defeat and redesign from the ground up.
Have to agree with you. I have a second account purely for racing and not caring about my result. On my main account I want to maintain and improve my DR but I feel like if I have a few bad races it would impact my score.


As for today had a blast round Monza. Tried out the all conquering Suberu WRX and I couldnt get it to work. Is they like a special setting or button for the thing? Did about 10 quali laps and my quickest time was half a second slower than then my Mustang lap. Might be a meta car but I just can’t get the thing to go. Jumped in the Jaguar FType and on my first flying lap I set my fastest time. Jag felt good, and now got my time down to 1.49.7.
Did a few races and it was Jag vs Bettle & WRX. 1st race I finished 4th. 2nd i finished 2nd and last race I was on pole and ran away with the race and won. Finished 6 seconds ahead of 2nd in a WRX.
Jumped on to Race C and it’s just carnage on that first corner. People need to learn the brake pedal. People at the back just come flying in.
 
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I definitely think penalty system & BOP with some cars need an overhaul, the penalty for intentionally punting & full speed knocking drivers off road should be more than 5 secs, because depending on where you land off road, 5 secs dont make a difference as you are well more than 5 secs behind that even with them getting penalty, you dont catch up to them, only ones benefiting are the ones who were not punted off road
I've said it before, but if the game deems one responsible for punting someone off the track enough to enforce a 5 second penalty, then the punter should be shown the "black flag" and immediately be dropped from the race and sent back to the home screen. Period.

They could take it a step further in if that happens X amount of times (3? 5?) within a week you're banned from racing online for a week. Yes, I know people have multiple accounts, but at least it would show some sort of give-a-**** from PD.
 
Just tried the SLS (older one, 11 I think) and it's awful, probably at least 1.5 seconds slower than the WRX, maybe more, maybe nearly 2, joke. Also got the ghosting rubbish mentioned above, went too deep (still on track) trying to pass into T1 and failed to get by and then exiting T2 a car behind us just drove straight through me, I guess it decided I was too slow or something. They want to try driving this thing. :lol:

Tried the Mustang after, much better could probably match the WRX if I got used to it but starting to think this week isn't the best to return to Sport mode, I'm out of practice with traffic running and there are slow cars in front and fast cars behind because of all the early chaos which just means a whole race of chaos. :nervous:



:gtplanet::cheers:
 
With you banging on about this I decided to take it for a spin and got a win straight away, my 6th so far in GT7, chuffed with that :cheers:

And overtaking a WRX for it, who messed up turn 1 cos he was too busy trying to shove me off into the grass on the run in, well that made it even sweeter.
I've been using the Jaguar too - fastest of all the Gr3 cars for me. The only problem is that the Beetle and WRX drivers don't like you passing them, and try their hardest to ram you off!
 
Why is copying GTS acceptable?
If PD had released GT7's single.playwr part along with GTS multiplayer part, some new tracks and cars and a return to a previous penalty system I would have been much more happy at release.
I think the lobby system in GTS was far more capable than what we have now, and also a lot more stable.
It feels to me as if they went back to a beta of GTS and based the build on that
 
It feels to me as if they went back to a beta of GTS and based the build on that
While I don't think it's this extreme I think it is fair to assume that when GT7 began production, the Sport elements were at a much earlier stage of development than they were by the later stages of GTS' life. So I would definitely agree that GT7 has been built around and on top of a much earlier version of Sport.

The question is how much interest do they have in bringing Sport mode, not only to the same level as the previous title, but developing it beyond that with new features and experiences.
 
I've been using the Jaguar too - fastest of all the Gr3 cars for me. The only problem is that the Beetle and WRX drivers don't like you passing them, and try their hardest to ram you off!
Jag and Mustang been my quickest cars. Someone was racing the DB9 today and got a decent result from it, may try that at some point.
I love how upset some people get from losing. It’s a flipping computer game!
 
While I don't think it's this extreme I think it is fair to assume that when GT7 began production, the Sport elements were at a much earlier stage of development than they were by the later stages of GTS' life. So I would definitely agree that GT7 has been built around and on top of a much earlier version of Sport.

The question is how much interest do they have in bringing Sport mode, not only to the same level as the previous title, but developing it beyond that with new features and experiences.
I didn’t play GTS so unaware as to how good sport mode was, but for me GT7 Sport mode at the minute is the only reason why I am still playing the game.
Single Career mode is what I buy and play games for. I’m not a huge online gamer and the only games I’ve played online are GT7 and sometimes F1 2021. As for the online lobbies, I’m not in a league or have friends who play GT7 so I see that part of the game a bit pointless for me.
Im hoping for some improvements for sport mode and I hope they add a 4th race.
 
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