GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[Granite_Lw]

I dont think this is even necessary. The way you are opting for power vs other aspects, here you are making a choice between topspeed and acceleration or finding some magic values that bring the better of both worlds.

I probably should have been more clear - I was suggesting taking the custom gears out of the PP calc because that's the glitch that people were using to make massively OP cars come in under the PP cap. So I think having to "spend" PP on the custom gear box is fine if that's what people want to do (and then they make their top speed vs acceleration choice), but you can't use that to manipulate the system.

 

[Meythia]

As far as I know this doesnt work anymore, so I guess I am misunderstanding something there.
Whatever the solution, it seems I was too late to the game when these events were there at the beginning, so unfortunatly I missed out and just wished they were re-implemented.

 

[Mercia]

Making the Non DR/SR race as Daytona on the oval is pretty damn funny.

At least it shows the sense of humour is alive and well at PD.

I was expecting 4th and 5th race options but since I rarely race Race A (without tuning) I guess it's a win for me, it should be 20+ cars on the oval though come on now.

 

[CQR Deuce]

They seriously didn't even add a new slot? They just gimped an existing daily race?? Like, come on man. It's already boring as hell having only 3 choices to race competitively for an entire week. Now it's two.

Who is making these decisions lmao. I'd have added a 4th one with cross platform enabled to keep the playerbase alive there.

With the issues we've seen with the rubber banding in the Nations races when cross platform is enabled. I don't understand why they wouldn't use something like this as an opportunity to collect data for the cross platform stuff and get it fixed.

 

[a1904]

Is Race C going to be a one stop for tyres and a bit of fuel or is there any car that could make a no stop work at all

 

[CQR Deuce]

Is Race C going to be a one stop for tyres and a bit of fuel or is there any car that could make a no stop work at all

Nope it's a flat out sprint. 👎👎

 

[JP76]

I think the biggest problem is that too many people do NOT like/can't do the Nordschleife. And it can be really hard to drive well and fair on the Nordschleife, especially with unsafe drivers.

Yes, at the weekend there was the 50th anniversary of the 24-hour race on the Nürburgring. I was able to follow around 14-16 of the 24h live and enjoyed it, except for the "failures" of the BMW, which brought tears to my eyes, and the accident with the Grello was also very tragic.

I've already written it several times.. if it were up to me, the Nordschleife /24h track would be included as a "bonus race" every week ;D!

Yeah I saw that Grello Crash on the highlights on Auto Addiction's channel.

I've lost count of the amount of people I've seen crash there in the exact same way in Sport mode lol!

I did the Manu race the other night - first and last time ever.
I was forced off three times by people attempting to pass me at literally the 3 worst corners to pass on the entire Nordshleife.....Flugplatz, Schwedenkreuz and Mutkurve 🙄

They have used the 24H circuit in Sport Mode recently.

Manufacturers Cup, Season 1, Round 1, this last Friday.

Here are some scenes from my entry in the 19:00 EMEA slot (full write-up is available here).

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Yeah I'm on about in standard sport mode.

 

[a1904]

Nope it's a flat out sprint. 👎👎

Oh that is disappointing, I thought with 12 laps and those multipliers we would get some level of excitement

 

[Talon16]

Aye, genuinely just don't see myself playing this week.

Race C is a write-off for me because anything faster than Gr.2 makes my eyeballs fall out, Race A is essentially a waste of time (if not fun for the first couple races) - which just leaves race B, which, whilst good, is not something that I can play repeatedly for 7 days in a row.

I'm really not sure what PDs decisions are trying to achieve. The game is lacking variety as it is and they just give us less. It's alien behaviour.

Pretty much how I feel.

A looks boring as hell. At least there appears to be a new META in the Ford GT. The line seems to be messed up, too. Top times are just hugging the inside like the whole way around which isn't how that works; they should be tracking out to the wall after ever turn.

B could be okay, but Gr4 cars don't really keep my interest.

C might be fun. Maybe.

I was just so hoping for N24 so anything else is a disappointment.

 

[JP76]

Aye, genuinely just don't see myself playing this week.

Race C is a write-off for me because anything faster than Gr.2 makes my eyeballs fall out, Race A is essentially a waste of time (if not fun for the first couple races) - which just leaves race B, which, whilst good, is not something that I can play repeatedly for 7 days in a row.

I'm really not sure what PDs decisions are trying to achieve. The game is lacking variety as it is and they just give us less. It's alien behaviour.

Yup. Off week for me too.

 

[Mercia]

I don't even really have a big problem with BoP. I only have a problem with the lack of balancing..

But that's the whole point of BoP, no?! Not meaning it as a call out or anything... it's just bizarre to me that they use this when it ends up being so wildly unbalanced in the end.

Just turn tuning off but don't use BoP, let everyone run the stock Gr3's, you'd still have some faster than others but at least they'd be based somewhat on their real world versions so we'd get some semi-realistic grids and results.

BoP at the moment does not do what it's name suggests and is just a way to lift random, totally unrealistic cars to the top of the class temporarily. This isn't 'balancing' in the slightest.

 

[pbchillin]

Sorry if it's already been asked, but is there any reward for the Lap Time Challenge in the Daily Races menu? Or is it just a bragging rights thing?

 

[Meythia]

This isn't 'balancing' in the slightest.

BoP in its current way: Randomly selecting the next car to use so all cars will be used in changing terms.
BoP putting all cars at equal perfomance would mean havng 1 car with different looks, ideal for competition but boring to watch.
BoP creating different cars that on average should be equal with different strength and weaknesses, interesting but difficult to achieve.

 

[brockie]

Always look forward to the week aheads daily’s - usually I am only in the B races and the sprints suit, but A&B will have inclusion this week! See you out there

 

[StealthVel]

These are looking really nice this week! Good to see Group C get their own race in Race C.

 

[xMAXIx79]

But that's the whole point of BoP, no?! Not meaning it as a call out or anything... it's just bizarre to me that they use this when it ends up being so wildly unbalanced in the end.

Just turn tuning off but don't use BoP, let everyone run the stock Gr3's, you'd still have some faster than others but at least they'd be based somewhat on their real world versions so we'd get some semi-realistic grids and results.

BoP at the moment does not do what it's name suggests and is just a way to lift random, totally unrealistic cars to the top of the class temporarily. This isn't 'balancing' in the slightest.

Yes and No... The vehicles WITHOUT BoP are sometimes even further apart than with BoP and a permitted tuning can... either widen the gap even further OR through tuning one single other car becomes the meta and you will be forced into this car to drive with this tuning to have a chance in the race. A fairly solid baseline should be there, whether it's a BoP or a really working PP doesn't matter that much. Although I would prefer BoP in a way if the balance is constantly being worked on, ideally even daily until a point is reached where the slowest car is a maximum of 1 second away from the fastest car on a normal track. On a track like the Nordschleife, it's okay to have more seconds.

But what also bothers me are all these sprint races. First, they are often ridden "harder" and they are not a real challenge either. I would prefer races that last a little longer, where tactics are also important, where you can definitely win or lose something with a pit strategy adapted to the racing situation.

 

[Pigems]

Sorry if it's already been asked, but is there any reward for the Lap Time Challenge in the Daily Races menu? Or is it just a bragging rights thing?

Just bragging rights/a measuring stick I believe.

 

[brockie]

Did I just read right with unranked race A?? Sure that will be fun overtaking high and getting put in the wall

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I think the biggest problem is that too many people do NOT like/can't do the Nordschleife. And it can be really hard to drive well and fair on the Nordschleife, especially with unsafe drivers.

Yes, at the weekend there was the 50th anniversary of the 24-hour race on the Nürburgring. I was able to follow around 14-16 of the 24h live and enjoyed it, except for the "failures" of the BMW, which brought tears to my eyes, and the accident with the Grello was also very tragic.

I've already written it several times.. if it were up to me, the Nordschleife /24h track would be included as a "bonus race" every week ;D!

N24 on Friday was pretty good. I did all 4 races (by quitting at 29 minutes to enter the next one) and only got punted once. People were flying off here and there but overall it was very good. I started in the back all 4 races and had many side by sides getting to the front, without issues, contact free. The track is its own deterrent to drive clean. I didn't see any bad behavior apart from the one punter. (And he got a deserved penalty)

It was at night, had rain, people drove fair, in GT2 at least.

I was excited to see the list of cars for race C this week, then I saw the track, hmm. I'll try it with the R92CP since that's the only one my livery survived the transition to GT7. Yet looking at the ranking board, it's the 787B all the way. No surprise, with the old GT Sport BoP, 787B is the fastest without fuel saving. Oh well, a 787B one make is the best one make there can be

First race at Daytona, I got to 6th in the R92CP. A+ 787B won. I had to short shift a tiny bit but then had a bit of fuel left over at the end. All FM1, no stop, mediums degrade a bit but not too bad. It's the exact same setting as the first time, sunset slowly getting dark, no rain. Nice for a couple times but not as fun as Sarthe and definitely no N24.

Second race, race wouldn't load. It finally started over 3 minutes late after spitting half the room out, 9 left. I made it to 3rd place. Which is now worth 22,650. Nerfed again, 3rd was 36,034 on Bathurst race C. Lowering the payouts for daily races sigh. (787B won again)

Third race I placed fifth. Another 787B won, seems to be 787B vs R92CP with 787B winning so far. 5th was worth 18,898, on Bathurst it was 30,065. Payouts this week for race C are only 63% of what they were at Mount Panorama.

Enough for now, got another useless tuning part for the waily spin (cam shaft) and I'm out.

 

[BrunusCL82]

Thank you, PD, for doing a specific race with cars from Group C. I hope this sets the standard.

 

[Hasnain282]

It's the Le Mans Classic this weekend which includes a Gr.C race which is probably why they've gone with Gr.C cars and I guess they're saving Le Mans for next week in the dailies (although we do have it in Toyota Cup this week and Nations Cup next week

Entry List for said Gr. C race (apologies for poor quality)

 

[B80]

I think the biggest problem is that too many people do NOT like/can't do the Nordschleife. And it can be really hard to drive well and fair on the Nordschleife, especially with unsafe drivers.

Yes, at the weekend there was the 50th anniversary of the 24-hour race on the Nürburgring. I was able to follow around 14-16 of the 24h live and enjoyed it, except for the "failures" of the BMW, which brought tears to my eyes, and the accident with the Grello was also very tragic.

I've already written it several times.. if it were up to me, the Nordschleife /24h track would be included as a "bonus race" every week ;D!

This. Narrow, long, unforgiving, fast, technical track, will be carnage, people spinning off left, right and centre. Too long for many to learn intricacies. People would get frustrated going off early on or several times and being left way behind. Shame, but can see why PD don;t include it. Maybe if they had many more events each week, but whilst there's 3, can;t see it happening.

I know a few very fast drivers who can;t stand the track, never mind more casual and/or average drivers.

 

[Devdude]

Might good for me to test out my MT learning

Yeah, Race A in road cars is usually my favourite race, but with nothing to gain, it’s just time wasted this week.

on the wheel against others online, dont want to try it in DR racers and mess up mine or someone elses race by forgetting to turn,brake, shift at same time

 

[Nebuc72]

Might good for me to test out my MT learning

on the wheel against others online, dont want to try it in DR racers and mess up mine or someone elses race by forgetting to turn,brake, shift at same time

Somehow I don't think race A is going to help you with that too much, considering it's just gr.3 flatout at Daytona oval.

 

[Devdude]

Somehow I don't think race A is going to help you with that too much, considering it's just gr.3 flatout at Daytona oval.

Oh snap, i just saw the race, yea, thats not going to get me anywhere, guess I'll just keep going at it with cpu until i feel more comfortable against real drivers

 

[B80]

Oh snap, i just saw the race, yea, thats not going to get me anywhere, guess I'll just keep going at it with cpu until i feel more comfortable against real drivers

Defo worth persevering with mate. I felt really uncomfortable, frustrated when I made transition from AT to MT years ago, but well worth it. Once you've got it, it seems simple/natural and becomes 2nd natures. You'll see benefits and it carries over to other games.

Maybe worth watching something like this, depending how you're getting on. Or google around for training videos on it, if you haven;t already.

 

[Talon16]

Anyone have a lap guide out for Dayton Oval?

 

[O604]

Anyone have a lap guide out for Dayton Oval?

Page 1 of 4. For free. I can sell you the next 3 pages.

 

[Devdude]

Defo worth persevering with mate. I felt really uncomfortable, frustrated when I made transition from AT to MT years ago, but well worth it. Once you've got it, it seems simple/natural and becomes 2nd natures. You'll see benefits and it carries over to other games.

Maybe worth watching something like this, depending how you're getting on. Or google around for training videos on it, if you haven;t already.

Thanks bro, i need that, i just started on MT couple days ago, and its my 1st wheel, so it's all new to me but i have noticed significant increase to me times when i hit the shifting correctly, knocked off a 58 in next manu race practice in the Scirocco,but i still need ALOT of practice...how long did it take yall to get good & comfortable with MT vs AT?

 

[B80]

Thanks bro, i need that, i just started on MT couple days ago, and its my 1st wheel, so it's all new to me but i have noticed significant increase to me times when i hit the shifting correctly, knocked off a 58 in next manu race practice in the Scirocco,but i still need ALOT of practice...how long did it take yall to get good & comfortable with MT vs AT?

Can't recall as years ago. Can recall thinking this is hard work/awkward and had to fight the urge to go back to at/my comfort zone. Honestly didn't take long though, as in hours, rather than weeks. Can't recall if slower for a bit though, but didn't take long to feel comfortable. Defo do it single player though, can imagine you're I'm competitive frame of mind more racing other humans...