GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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Talon16
For this long right hander, as long as I am tight to the wall, my acceleration point is the barrier on the outside wall 'transitions' and there is red paint on the one that is ending. When I see that red paint, I punch it.

Similar but I don't think I even hit the brakes. A quick let off of the gas and a flick of the wheel towards the inside wall is usually enough to get the weight on the front and enough rotation for a turn in. I then floor it until the next wall, maybe 50% brakes and slight left turn-in (too much brakes or turning will unsettle the car); straighten the wheel and at the dark patch in the asphalt, stab the brakes and get ready for the bumpy right.

All that being said, NNT's time is like a second faster than mine (20.6 for me) so take that with a grain of salt. I don't think I am losing it here, though... I know where I'm slow and I feel this little bit is pretty good.
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I was discussing sector times with @TechnoIsLove and it’s interesting. Hes quicker than me in the first third then I catch up after the bridge. For my Q lap I absolutely nailed the downhill esses before the last turn as my ghost always speeds off.

Sector times for my 2.19.64
29.6
56.0
1.26.0
(can’t remember the last one)

I‘m hopeless at turn 1, cant get it right at all and the downhill before the bridge I feel slow at as well. I don’t think you can take the long right without a dab of brake if you get a good exit out the bridge.
 
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NikNakTobasco
I was discussing sector times with @TechnoIsLove and it’s interesting. Hes quicker than me in the first third then I catch up after the bridge. For my Q lap I absolutely nailed the downhill esses before the last turn as my ghost always speeds off.

Sector times for my 2.19.64
29.6
56.0
1.26.0
(can’t remember the last one)

I‘m hopeless at turn 1, cant get it right at all and the downhill before the bridge I feel slow at as well. I don’t think you can take the long right without a dab of brake if you get a good exit out the bridge.
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The turning capabilities of the GTR are already limited but it's very hard to control in tight turns and quick, downhill direction changes using a controller. It's too twitchy since you're literally dealing in millimeters in terms of the thumbsticks.

It's so inconsistent and I can never pass the same corner the same way, even after 100 tries. I keep up with the top ghosts until the downhill chicane around 1:43 and then bleed seconds like crazy...

Either it turns in too quick or else too wide . When I go to let go of gas and reapply in final chicane, it either runs too wide or else turns too sharp. No joke, did at least 60 qualy laps and I've been over 1 second faster than my current 1:20:5 countless times. It's beyond infuriating for me at least
 
Been having some good races in B today - got my quali down to 22.2 which is pretty decent for me, still think I could get it into the 21's though, think I'm finally getting the hang of trail breaking though am still a little heavy with it at the end.

3 clean races in a row & finishing top quarter too, all in all a good session.

Of course being gran turismo, that run was ended by a swift punt on the last corner by someone that clearly wanted it more than me. Called it a night there but progress was made!
 
Mercia
Very fun 3-way last lap battle here for the top 5 spots, including 3-wide onto the straight after the bridge! although I ended up last in this one I enjoyed this very much.



For all the nonsense on these games, there's nothing like some good close racing.
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Think I saw you in one of my races earlier - some guy at the end was having a cry in the chat f'ing & blinding about a crash or something?
 
Roggers
Struggling with pace at race b. They are two are three corners were I’m consistently losing time.
The awkward downhill right, left, right just before the bridge - for most of this I’m just free wheeling through the corners, but getting back on the power for the bridge is were I struggle a bit
The long right hander after the bridge before the long straight - I never know what gear to be, to free wheel the full corner, to free wheel with dab of throttle, or just be on throttle with dab of brakes. No matter which option I take I have different results each time
The double left hander before the final corner - again gear. Do I stay in 5th and lift off, or do I lift off drop to 4th, or dab the brake in 5th but get on the power quicker, dab the brake into 4th and again power on early.

Doesnt help that I struggle to drive the 4wd cars. Fastest laps so are 22.8 in a Aston and 22.9 in the Ferrari (which surprised me)
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I'm also bad with the Gr4 AWD cars but I think I'll give Daily B a shot tonight. Going off what I did in GTS but for the section before the bridge, I tend to coast through the final left to keep the car lined up for the bridge. With the long right hander, I've done very deep dives on the inside to reach the apex faster and also rode well on the outside and cut in late. Again, have to see what actually works in GT7.
 
TechnoIsLove
The turning capabilities of the GTR are already limited but it's very hard to control in tight turns and quick, downhill direction changes using a controller. It's too twitchy since you're literally dealing in millimeters in terms of the thumbsticks.

It's so inconsistent and I can never pass the same corner the same way, even after 100 tries. I keep up with the top ghosts until the downhill chicane around 1:43 and then bleed seconds like crazy...

Either it turns in too quick or else too wide . When I go to let go of gas and reapply in final chicane, it either runs too wide or else turns too sharp. No joke, did at least 60 qualy laps and I've been over 1 second faster than my current 1:20:5 countless times. It's beyond infuriating for me at least
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The GTR needs nerfing, We have to use it because it’s the quickest car but it doesnt suit the track at all, you shift the weight too quick and the understeer locks it up and youre wide, that last downhill section I can see being a real nuisance with a controller for that reason. be interesting to see if a BOP change kills the supra and the GTR
 
Granite_Lw
Think I saw you in one of my races earlier - some guy at the end was having a cry in the chat f'ing & blinding about a crash or something?
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Always a pleasure :cheers:

He was calling everyone ramming scumbags I believe, despite seeing on several occasions his ramming and forcing people off. Whatever the incident was I wasn't involved but I notice he was spun out dead last so someone did us all a favour and that was probably why he was mad.
 
I'm noticing quite a difference between Gr.4 cars and Gr.3 cars, in terms of zero fuel weight qualifying and full tank racing.
In Gr.3 cars, it seems I need to brake quite a bit earlier in the race than I do for qualifying. In Gr.4 cars, there's almost no difference.
 
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NikNakTobasco
I was discussing sector times with @TechnoIsLove and it’s interesting. Hes quicker than me in the first third then I catch up after the bridge. For my Q lap I absolutely nailed the downhill esses before the last turn as my ghost always speeds off.

Sector times for my 2.19.64
29.6
56.0
1.26.0
(can’t remember the last one)

I‘m hopeless at turn 1, cant get it right at all and the downhill before the bridge I feel slow at as well. I don’t think you can take the long right without a dab of brake if you get a good exit out the bridge.
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We are similarly fast in most sectors, unfortunately I made a serious mistake in the last sector, which cost me a lot...

In S2 I was a little bit faster.
 
I know I complain a lot 🤣 Mostly about the penalties but I have to say my biggest gripe is.... LAG!

How can such a massive network for GT Sport not have the power to balance connections or compensate for player lag? I know it costs millions on such a large scale but he'll, collectively, all of us who paid for the game more than cover this expense.

I've been surprised by lag countless times, cars leaping from right to left, from my side to in front of me, it's insane.

Just now I had the opportunity to take the lead 7 times in 2 laps but didn't risk it. Every time I get close the other car jumps 3 meters in random directions! Trying an overtake would 99.99% result in a crash and plenty plus ruined race. My worst lap was 0.4 seconds faster than his (slight brag 🤣 lol) yet, not even in the straights, could I dream of attempting an overtake... Ended up finishing P2 0.28 seconds behind as that is the max I risked going close to him 🫤
 
NikNakTobasco
The GTR needs nerfing, We have to use it because it’s the quickest car but it doesnt suit the track at all, you shift the weight too quick and the understeer locks it up and youre wide, that last downhill section I can see being a real nuisance with a controller for that reason. be interesting to see if a BOP change kills the supra and the GTR
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I just overlap gas and brake efforts in that downhill section to stabilize the car.
 
NikNakTobasco
I‘m hopeless at turn 1, cant get it right at all and the downhill before the bridge I feel slow at as well. I don’t think you can take the long right without a dab of brake if you get a good exit out the bridge.
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NikNakTobasco
The GTR needs nerfing, We have to use it because it’s the quickest car but it doesnt suit the track at all, you shift the weight too quick and the understeer locks it up and youre wide, that last downhill section I can see being a real nuisance with a controller for that reason. be interesting to see if a BOP change kills the supra and the GTR
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The downhill S i lift on on the orange barrier (left) let the car roll right a small dab off brake to the car rotating as far left you can to open up the right hand corner for the bridge. If I’m to far right for the right hander, the angle of the corner then send me over that bump after the apex sideways.

I know for the majority of the A+ drivers you have to use the meta (GTR) to be able to compete but I’m actually finding the Ferrari to be a decent competitive car.

Granite_Lw
Been having some good races in B today - got my quali down to 22.2 which is pretty decent for me, still think I could get it into the 21's though, think I'm finally getting the hang of trail breaking though am still a little heavy with it at the end.

3 clean races in a row & finishing top quarter too, all in all a good session.

Of course being gran turismo, that run was ended by a swift punt on the last corner by someone that clearly wanted it more than me. Called it a night there but progress was made!
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What rank are you and what car did you set your quali time in? I’m B/S and done the same time 22.266 in an Aston. Surprised to not come across you in my races? Am on PS4 tonight.

OutlawQuadrnt
I'm also bad with the Gr4 AWD cars but I think I'll give Daily B a shot tonight. Going off what I did in GTS but for the section before the bridge, I tend to coast through the final left to keep the car lined up for the bridge. With the long right hander, I've done very deep dives on the inside to reach the apex faster and also rode well on the outside and cut in late. Again, have to see what actually works in GT7.
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The 4wd just don’t suit my driving style at all. GTR I’m half a second to second off, WRX over a second. Not tried the other 4wd yet but suspect I’d have the same issue.
 
Roggers
What rank are you and what car did you set your quali time in? I’m B/S and done the same time 22.266 in an Aston. Surprised to not come across you in my races? Am on PS4 tonight.
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B/S too at the moment, though I yoyo depending on the tracks. Work means I can't play all that often so we probably just miss each other. Is your PSN the same as on here? I'll keep an eye out for you.
 
OutlawQuadrnt
Do you want to know what happens when you use the NSX for Daily C at Monza?

Magical things. :D

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This was fascinating, you are VERY consistent and run about half a second a lap faster than me. Wilcox took a lap or two to figure out he was better off bump drafting than racing, but the lead car binned it anyway. I was watching Flakes as he was charging through the field but felt he made huge tactical errors. You were consistent but they both had enough pace to pass and leave you behind. The moment Flakes saw Wilcox with a penalty he should have passed you and he compounds that by bump drafting well into the last lap rather than passing you and trying to gap you.
 
NikNakTobasco
I was discussing sector times with @TechnoIsLove and it’s interesting. Hes quicker than me in the first third then I catch up after the bridge. For my Q lap I absolutely nailed the downhill esses before the last turn as my ghost always speeds off.

Sector times for my 2.19.64
29.6
56.0
1.26.0
(can’t remember the last one)

I‘m hopeless at turn 1, cant get it right at all and the downhill before the bridge I feel slow at as well. I don’t think you can take the long right without a dab of brake if you get a good exit out the bridge.
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Well, that's because I am a big dummy and thought you were originally describing the right as a part of the esses and not the long one before that back straight. Ugh, I was reading too quickly.

But yea, I agree, definitely need some braking there.

TechnoIsLove
The turning capabilities of the GTR are already limited but it's very hard to control in tight turns and quick, downhill direction changes using a controller. It's too twitchy since you're literally dealing in millimeters in terms of the thumbsticks.

It's so inconsistent and I can never pass the same corner the same way, even after 100 tries. I keep up with the top ghosts until the downhill chicane around 1:43 and then bleed seconds like crazy...

Either it turns in too quick or else too wide . When I go to let go of gas and reapply in final chicane, it either runs too wide or else turns too sharp. No joke, did at least 60 qualy laps and I've been over 1 second faster than my current 1:20:5 countless times. It's beyond infuriating for me at least
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This is the issue I have. I am starting to sound like a broken record but the understeer of these cars is maddening sometimes. The difference between getting on the throttle too soon and it plowing wide (or requiring throttle feathering, thus scrubbing speed) and cutting the turn way too tight is annoying. I have this issue with all the AWD Gr4s. That's why I like the Mustang for this track. It's not that it's good, it's just the least bad for my driving style. But, it just can't keep up with the GTR unfortunately. I know you drive these things a lot so if I'm only 0.1" back on your quali time I'll take it!

It's too bad daily C is such a fudd this week. I've been doing more races on my backup account because I don't want to use the GTR. Hey, @sturk0167 , that was looking like it might get hairy on that tight right after the back straight going three wide, but we all managed to survive! GR! I had a good time fighting with that brown GTR, he was very clean.

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NikNakTobasco
Bit advanced for me that. I have enough trouble doing one at a time 🤓
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your still faster than me.....I am at 2.19.9xx. Are you controller or pedals?

I am curious how many people who struggle with understeer with the 4wd trail brake? I find all of them pretty easy to drive.
Gr3 car on the other hand are way to twitchy on a wheel IMO. This will be unpopular but I honestly think the game is way to tailored to controller users and the handling of many rear wheel drive but especially MR and RR is snappier than it should be. I have driven many RWD cars in real life on the track and this game is actually harder to drive than IRL on those cars.
 
Talon16
Well, that's because I am a big dummy and thought you were originally describing the right as a part of the esses and not the long one before that back straight. Ugh, I was reading too quickly.

But yea, I agree, definitely need some braking there.


This is the issue I have. I am starting to sound like a broken record but the understeer of these cars is maddening sometimes. The difference between getting on the throttle too soon and it plowing wide (or requiring throttle feathering, thus scrubbing speed) and cutting the turn way too tight is annoying. I have this issue with all the AWD Gr4s. That's why I like the Mustang for this track. It's not that it's good, it's just the least bad for my driving style. But, it just can't keep up with the GTR unfortunately. I know you drive these things a lot so if I'm only 0.1" back on your quali time I'll take it!

It's too bad daily C is such a fudd this week. I've been doing more races on my backup account because I don't want to use the GTR. Hey, @sturk0167 , that was looking like it might get hairy on that tight right after the back straight going three wide, but we all managed to survive! GR! I had a good time fighting with that brown GTR, he was very clean.

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I'm sorry. I didn't know you were there. I didn't run into you, did I?
 
JDM_GT7
I am curious how many people who struggle with understeer with the 4wd trail brake? I find all of them pretty easy to drive.
Gr3 car on the other hand are way to twitchy on a wheel IMO. This will be unpopular but I honestly think the game is way to tailored to controller users and the handling of many rear wheel drive but especially MR and RR is snappier than it should be. I have driven many RWD cars in real life on the track and this game is actually harder to drive than IRL on those cars.
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This doesn't make sense though? If it was tailored to controller they'd be easier to drive, not harder - it's harder to catch something on a controller, you have less feel for the car.
 
Granite_Lw
B/S too at the moment, though I yoyo depending on the tracks. Work means I can't play all that often so we probably just miss each other. Is your PSN the same as on here? I'll keep an eye out for you.
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Haha yeah I have strong and weak tracks. Weak tracks I just avoid as I hate not been competitive.
No my PSN is either rodgers1 (main) or srracing87 (2nd). What with the dirty racing and no penalties I use 2nd account mostly at the minute as I’m not bothered if my DR takes a hit.

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So daily b, is a great race but come on PD give us 5 laps. If you get punted off or have a crash it’s race over as they not enough laps to recover.
Also I hope tomorrows update ditches the time trail and changes it to a practice session with real tyre and fuel wear. Then before a race I hope we get a mini quali session. One or two laps shootout.
So tonight in my races I was starting P4-P6 and I have the same drivers pretty much around me. The driver infront were just too quick so I couldn’t really catch and then I had one driver who was always behind me and every race they were trying to push to pass or tried to send one up the inside. A mini quali before a race would create mixed up grids and stop the repetitive races in dailys. Also I hate the fact time trail has perfect race conditions but on the race the tyres behave totally different and Im struggling to nail a perfect lap at the minute.
 
Roggers
The 4wd just don’t suit my driving style at all. GTR I’m half a second to second off, WRX over a second. Not tried the other 4wd yet but suspect I’d have the same issue.
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Even in GTS driving for Nissan, I just couldn't figure out how to get the speed out of the GT-R. Didn't have that problem with the WRX but now I do. I want to say I all but have to use different wheel settings to diagnose the root cause.
NevilleNobody
This was fascinating, you are VERY consistent and run about half a second a lap faster than me. Wilcox took a lap or two to figure out he was better off bump drafting than racing, but the lead car binned it anyway. I was watching Flakes as he was charging through the field but felt he made huge tactical errors. You were consistent but they both had enough pace to pass and leave you behind. The moment Flakes saw Wilcox with a penalty he should have passed you and he compounds that by bump drafting well into the last lap rather than passing you and trying to gap you.
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Wilcox decided to either push me or give me draft to stay near the front knowing that my car was hilariously slow for the fun of it. Just so happened that the leader binned it and Flakes caught on what Wilcox was trying to do with me. This wasn't even coordinated pre-race which made the end result so much better. All the stars had to align for such a meme victory and it did. :lol:
 
Nebuc72
This doesn't make sense though? If it was tailored to controller they'd be easier to drive, not harder - it's harder to catch something on a controller, you have less feel for the car.
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when on controller there is some amount of CSA built in and you can move the stick back and forth way faster than a wheel.

My point being I wonder if those on a wheel prefer the 4wd over the RWD in Gr4.
 
OutlawQuadrnt
Even in GTS driving for Nissan, I just couldn't figure out how to get the speed out of the GT-R. Didn't have that problem with the WRX but now I do. I want to say I all but have to use different wheel settings to diagnose the root cause.

Wilcox decided to either push me or give me draft to stay near the front knowing that my car was hilariously slow for the fun of it. Just so happened that the leader binned it and Flakes caught on what Wilcox was trying to do with me. This wasn't even coordinated pre-race which made the end result so much better. All the stars had to align for such a meme victory and it did. :lol:
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Yeah exactly, flajes really messed up, should have easily won if he passed you on 2nd last lap. You are relentless though, barely a twitch.
 

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