GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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The GTR is at the top of MP lobbies for the upcoming Watkins Glen Gr.4 race tonight. Why is this car so much better than others under BoP settings? It's the same problem with the Supra among Gr.3, though to a lesser degree. Why have BoP settings if they don't actually balance the pool?
 
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Fenris1
Once again the GTR is at the top of MP lobbies for the upcoming Watkins Glen Gr.4 race tonight. To say I'm tired of this car would be an understatement. What's the point of the BoP settings if every week, no matter the track, all pure sprint races lead to essentially one-make races. This game makes absolutely no sense.
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I've seen a pretty good variety in Race C all week this time around. Mostly Megane Trophy, G70 and 155s, yes, but not entirely.
 
Just ran a C race. First one I've done in quite a while. It was actually fun. I used the GT-R Gr.4. I'm not too good on Brands Hatch, so I was expecting something a lot worse. I started 15th (no qualifying time), and finished 8th. I spun myself (twice), or the result might have been better. At the start, I got a good run and had some decent grip. I started in Clark Curve and was expecting a bit of chaos; either from me or everyone else. The only issue was the car just ahead of me either wasn't paying attention or was on the throttle and his car got a little squirrely when the timer hit "GO" and he had to correct, slowing him down. I made the easy pass right at the start/finish line. I then passed 2 more after turn 1 as they decided to have a go in the sand. Coming out of Druids (turn 2), I was trying not to ram the 2 cars ahead of me as I'd wound up right on their tail, swerved to miss one, and put my right side on the grass. That caused me to spin. Back down to 15th I go. Coming around Surtees (turn 4), another car decided to have a meeting with the outside barrier, there; 1 position gained. I stayed there for 2 or 3 laps. I had a decent battle with another car for a lap, but then decided to spin myself coming up to Druids. I got a little bit too far over to the left just as I started to slow down and turn and around I went. I was far enough ahead of the car behind me so I never lost the position. After that, I went on a pretty good run and put in some decent times. I wasn't catching the leaders by any stretch, but I was catching the few cars just ahead of me. After a couple of them pitted, and 1 ran wide, I moved up a few spots. I'd made it up to 7th, but ran just a tiny bit too wide (not off the track, just too wide), and subsequently got passed. I stayed close to them, but could never get close enough to make a move. I was happy moving up from 15th to 8th. That's a positive result and a top-10 finish. I'll take that.

I also noticed that the lead cars went into the pits at the end of lap 1. Is that a normal thing? I didn't pit until lap 9 or 10, when I was almost out of fuel. I was on RH tires and they never showed any signs of wear.
 
BloodRaven
I also noticed that the lead cars went into the pits at the end of lap 1. Is that a normal thing? I didn't pit until lap 9 or 10, when I was almost out of fuel. I was on RH tires and they never showed any signs of wear.
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One lap on hard tires to meet requirement and 11 laps on the faster mediums.
 
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BloodRaven
Ah.
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Yep, depending on grid position I either start on hards and pit after lap 1, or mediums and pit after 11. Worked out for me tonight, won 4/8 races I participated in, podium in 2 others, should've had 4th but made an unforced error in another, and rage quit one after being punted. Got my first win in a B/S lobby too.
 
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Really enjoyed this weeks racing, mainly in Race C....tried various cars as did many other people, was nice to see and the strategy although limited was good to have. And i know that Race A was pretty popular among a few of you as well.
Hopefully next weeks races are fun to do, B will probably be a GTR fest and C a Supra fest....I'm decent in the GTR and I like Yamagiwa so i should enjoy them. The week after (no idea how we know the combos so far in advance) I'm praying to god that they somehow just make Race B a GR2 Japanese Car only race (no SLK) it will just be so much better and give us a few more choices.
 
Ran another C, just now. Good racing all around. On the final lap, coming out of Surtees, I hit another car and pushed him off the track. We'd been doing some really good racing for a little over a lap up to that point; traded positions a time or 2. I slowed down to give hm the position back. Thankfully, we were far enough ahead of the ones behind so I never lost my position I had. I apologized after the race (and flashed my lights after I let him back on ahead of me). I started 16th in this one, and finished 8th.....again. This time, I started on RH, but then pitted at the end of lap 1 and went to Mediums. I played with the fuel on lap 10 (moved down to FM2 for a lap) to make sure I'd have enough fuel to get to the end without having to pit again. And I had just enough to make it across the line at full power. I could've made it to turn 2, maybe, before running out, lol.

As I stated previously, I'm not too good at Brands Hatch. But I like that combination of Gr.4 cars, there. Not slow, but not overly fast where it's so much power that the back end can come around if you're not careful. And using the GT-R with AWD makes it easy to drive it right on the edge and not lose control. I know the G70 has the top times, there. But I don't have that car and I like the GT-R.
 
Boltar
PD and Sony are japanese. Toyota and Nissan are japanese. Its pretty obvious.
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What kind of response is that? Theres like 40 gr3 cars. More than two manufacturers among them are Japanese. Rock solid reasoning on display.
 
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Looking forward to trying out the new races, honestly last week was done for me by Wednesday, there just wasn't anything new to experience. I wasn't going to get any faster so I was basically set to have the same race again and again.

I wish they would look at more frequent rotations of the daillies, even just for one race to change every couple of days.

EDIT: Even Time Trial lasts for way too long, what is it 12 days? There's just no need for that.
 
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r_epp
I'm C/S right now.

Edit: now a very lowly B/S
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I guess I wasn’t in a race with you. But it sounds like I soon will be. I’m upper B but that’s my limit right now. I really don’t want to be an A yet, although most of my racing this week was primarily against A drivers. That pretty much ensured that I’ll stay B a while!
Boxster
New races:
  • Alsace BMW M3
  • Watkins Glenn Gr4
  • Kyoto Yamagiwa GR3

Three good races I think.
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I’m really curious to see how race A does with tuning. It seems like it could be fun.
 
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RacingGrandpa
I became B first time a few years ago. Never rose above it. I am apparently a low B natural.

I don't think you become A naturally. I think the most important thing is to pick your battles, run races you are good at and not run races you aren't.
Almost everyone I know that rose to A did it by picking and grinding the races they are best at.

I have limited time, so I run what ever race is on. That's costly.
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I agree with this. I’m B too and I feel like I am naturally a B driver for now. I reckon I could get to A rank but the only way I would reach A rank is to grind the races where im good at and avoid the bad ones. This week at Brands proved I’m a B driver. Quali I set a 1.30.7 which put me in the top 5 every race, but come the race I’m not consistent enough whether it’s race pace or making errors. I had 3/10 good races.

Mercia
Looking forward to trying out the new races, honestly last week was done for me by Wednesday, there just wasn't anything new to experience. I wasn't going to get any faster so I was basically set to have the same race again and again.

I wish they would look at more frequent rotations of the daillies, even just for one race to change every couple of days.

EDIT: Even Time Trial lasts for way too long, what is it 12 days? There's just no need for that.
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Yeah I was same. Thursday was the last time I ran a daily race and since then I’ve just been making random custom races. The AI annoy the hell out of me but I found it more interesting running fuel, tyre and weather races then the daily’s.

Time Trial needs to be every 5 days I reckon.
 
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Here's my best lap and tune so far for Race A.

Engine swap with Gr. 3 Z4, widebody and all aero parts. I still feel like I have a bit of time to gain but only 1.4 seconds off the leader at a track I'm not anything special at gives me doubts.
 
Boxster
New races:
  • Alsace BMW M3
  • Watkins Glenn Gr4
  • Kyoto Yamagiwa GR3

Three good races I think.
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Think I'll be spending most of the week at the Glen. Had too many shunts at Yamagiwa in previous races, one chicane in particular.
 
Set a 2:05.2 for Race A (was 6th when I set it, 7th now I believe)... how I long for the days where road car races counted for something.

Still feels like a kick in the teeth that they did that to be honest, there's a lot of people that excel with or even just prefer the road car races that are just **** out of luck in Sport mode now. At least we got the Roadster race last week.
 
Fenris1
What kind of response is that? Theres like 40 gr3 cars. More than two manufacturers among them are Japanese. Rock solid reasoning on display.
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This has been discussed and acknowledge by some others a few hundred pages before. The Intenza is OP on GT4. Again, its obvious.

My response was an answer to a question. Can you provide a different one that explains the "bOp" in this game?
 
Fenris1
At what DR? I'm in A and I can't keep pace with the 155 whatsoever.
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I am A/S and there was some variety even here. 155-megane-G70 and swift were predominantly picked.
I would also like to note that even though something is META, doesnt have to mean it is the fastest for you. I did 30.3 to 30.5 with the swift, megane and G70, couldnt go faster for the life of me. Towards end of the week picked the 155 just out of curiosity how it drives, and 2 qually laps in did 29.8.
 
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Fezzik
Mine will - with maybe the Mustang on the alternate.
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I did some qualifying laps with the G70 and the GTR. The latter feels to have a bit more potential, while the former is super stable, so - mistake-prone as I am - I am half a second faster with the G70. Might be my choice for this week.
 
Leon Kowalski
I did some qualifying laps with the G70 and the GTR. The latter feels to have a bit more potential, while the former is super stable, so - mistake-prone as I am - I am half a second faster with the G70. Might be my choice for this week.
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The GT-R doesn’t feel all that special at the Glen. A lot of people are using it, but the fastest I’ve seen so far is the Mustang, which I also prefer. The Cayman loves this track as well, and the Bugatti felt incredible if you can believe that!

Anyway, the insomniac lobbies are a mixed bag. A+ all the way down to D, and it’s just craziness on the back half. I’ll try later when I’m awake and more stable (and hopefully everyone else is too).
 
Sjokkomoes
I am A/S and there was some variety even here. 155-megane-G70 and swift were predominantly picked.
I would also like to note that even though something is META, doesnt have to mean it is the fastest for you. I did 30.3 to 30.5 with the swift, megane and G70, couldnt go faster for the life of me. Towards end of the week picked the 155 just out of curiosity how it drives, and 2 qually laps in did 29.8.
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That's fine, but I wasn't talking about the Brands Hatch race. I was talking about mp lobbies for Watkins Glen before it came out earlier. The variety with the Brands Hatch race was due to it was having fuel management to consider. In straight sprint races most of the time, the top cars are GTR if there's long straights, and WRX if there's not.

Boltar
This has been discussed and acknowledge by some others a few hundred pages before. The Intenza is OP on GT4. Again, its obvious.

My response was an answer to a question. Can you provide a different one that explains the "bOp" in this game?
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I don't know what you're talking about. Why would I provide an explanation for the BoP setups? I'm expressing confusion as to why 2 cars seem OP in a scenario where balance is apparently being enforced. Your response is just to tell me it's obvious PD would favor Japanese cars, which is asinine and wrong. I didn't make the game, I can't explain why their BoP works the way it does, but if you don't see something wrong with 2 cars being well above a field of 70+ others in raw power, I don't know what to tell you.
 
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Bullwinkle
The GT-R doesn’t feel all that special at the Glen. A lot of people are using it, but the fastest I’ve seen so far is the Mustang, which I also prefer. The Cayman loves this track as well, and the Bugatti felt incredible if you can believe that!

Anyway, the insomniac lobbies are a mixed bag. A+ all the way down to D, and it’s just craziness on the back half. I’ll try later when I’m awake and more stable (and hopefully everyone else is too).
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Glad to see a bit of variety, early on at least. I thought the Cayman would be a bit sluggish for this one - I love the car but it does seem like driving in treacle on the straights compared to some others.
 
So what are the cars to use for C this week? 1x tire wear on Ms doesn't seem like it'd be a deal breaker for anything... even the bigger girls (M6, Vette, Stang, etc.).

Looks like B is a GTR fest with the odd Genesis. Hoping more Gr4 cars are competitive as the week goes on. I am going to try the Mustang; I like that car a bit... at least I did at St Croix.
 
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