GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[T_702_Balone]

what works in Q will not be optimal in the race, especially when fuel and tire wear are present. with practice, i think anyone can tune a car to work better, the process will also improve your skills because now you must understand what factors influence sector and lap times. Cant get on the throttle early and hard enough? turn in difficult? loose on exit? tunable. Now, any car can be made reasonably competitive. lack of top end i think, much of the time, is a trans tuning issue, rear aero less so. As much as I loathed the thought of tuning for races, this has made the game much more compelling and interesting. As max pointed out earlier, track temperature is now a factor, even without tire temperature monitoring at present, how cool is that? what works for a world tour competitor is unlikely to work best for you. Now, you are not stuck with what the game gives you, you can tune out what you dont like.

how are yall testing your tunes? lobby seems to be optimal, i havent tried it yet.

 

[YarroSmith]

I’ve gone the opposite way. Over 600 GTSport wins as an A/A+ driver and I haven’t even been a factor in any gt7 race yet. Guess I should put some time into tuning….

I really liked the daily races in sport, being time poor, it was always nice to just load up and race.

Youncan just load up and race in the group4 race.

 

[BalsBrother]

Barriers added to the bus stop chicken at Daytona for race C. You ain't corner cutting that sucker anymore. While not worth a 30 hour downtime I am happy they have addressed it.

 

[flimmelblitz]

Same for the chicane on Race B (Gr. 4 Nurburgring). Good choice.

 

[Barra333]

Barriers added to the bus stop chicken at Daytona for race C. You ain't corner cutting that sucker anymore. While not worth a 30 hour downtime I am happy they have addressed it.

Same for the chicane on Race B (Gr. 4 Nurburgring). Good choice.

Mind boggling that they didn't think they needed to do that before. I'd prefer decent penalty detection over a barrier though. They could use those floppy bollards that stay in place - touch it and get a penalty. Go inside it and get a bigger one.

 

[NikNakTobasco]

I laughed when I saw it the first time I got to the bus stop. Looks so cheap, but does the job. Removing my qualy time is understandable but bloody annoying! Just spent the last hour grinding out a respectable time again. Not sure I’ll race tonight as Friday nights are usually a bit rowdy so will jump on tomorrow afternoon.

 

[BalsBrother]

Been back in race C and I want to hate it for the 30 hour downtime plus tone deaf message we got from Kaz. However, the racing is really starting to grow on me and it's just fun now I got used to the driving model of GT7. Still not sure if it tops ACC but its much closer than I initially gave it credit for.

Finally got round to trying TheKie25 Mazda setup and managed a 1:47.9, which for a controller pleb like me is ok I think. What I like about the setup is it's much more stable going through the bus stop chicane (interesting that the barriers are not on the world circuit time trial version of the track.). Been struggling going through there for most of the week so hopefully this helps.

I am still worried about not being able to afford the cars to do the daily races without grinding my eyes out or how long I will tolerate doing something not fun to be able to enjoy the part I find fun. Still for now I will just concentrate on the having fun part and enjoy the races

 

[samppa_944]

Yeah, you can argue for and against PDs choices.. Imo the dailies seem more fair now, despite some 'fake' walls 😁

Credits earning changes.. I will only say that be prepared to grind a lot, unless you open your wallet (no don't don't do that). Quite big changes. I guess people got spoiled of GT5-6 and GTS credits earning and car earning.

Still I think this is a bit too harsh. Even for a hardcore money grinder like me. I have 1M now. 8 hrs of grinding for 500 Mondial and Vulcan tomorrow 🙈 And Vulcan expires Sunday 1.59 am. Yeah, tomorrow will be a long day, luckily no plans. No update delay shall stop me 💪 Dailies for Sunday.

 

[Barra333]

Been back in race C and I want to hate it for the 30 hour downtime plus tone deaf message we got from Kaz. However, the racing is really starting to grow on me and it's just fun now I got used to the driving model of GT7. Still not sure if it tops ACC but its much closer than I initially gave it credit for.

Finally got round to trying TheKie25 Mazda setup and managed a 1:47.9, which for a controller pleb like me is ok I think. What I like about the setup is it's much more stable going through the bus stop chicane (interesting that the barriers are not on the world circuit time trial version of the track.). Been struggling going through there for most of the week so hopefully this helps.

I am still worried about not being able to afford the cars to do the daily races without grinding my eyes out or how long I will tolerate doing something not fun to be able to enjoy the part I find fun. Still for now I will just concentrate on the having fun part and enjoy the races

I'm a controller guy too. I think I hit a 47.0 the other day using the setup from @Harmonic . I might look at Kie's setup and see how it suits me. In the 47 bracket, it really comes down to how confident you are in the handling rather than a 'better' setup IMO.

It's weird going back and forward between GTS and GT7 handling - they are so different. Still about 200,000 to level 50 for me.

 

[Granite_Lw]

These dailies are getting quite fun now - I think race B is my fav of this three, I've had some proper decent racing today, wheel to wheel and very little shunting.
Cruising round in a Ferrari too which could be why it's so fun!
Best result of the day was qualified 5th and finished 3rd with some decent 4 way battles throughout!

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Well that's it. I'm signing up to Metacritic to add another 1 star review.

Everything in GT7 is designed to spoil the fun. At least it works again, yet somehow my balance is under 2 million again, was above before the server maintenance.

Anyway at 45K per fish race, I've given up for now on getting another GR.1 car you can't use yet anyway. TS050 was only use-able in the 24 minutes of Le Mans with lots of reductions and added weight.

So I wanted to do another 3h 24h endurance race on N24 (8x time compression). I set the whole thing up, weather carefully selected to have lots of rain this time. Selecting a nice mixed grid from my garage, all the highest pp cars I have so far. And then I want to race and see my current car is still the fish rally car. Can't change it I press go race, the game informs me you can't use dirt tires on this track and throws me out, resetting all settings. FFS

Shame on you PD, this long time fan has really had it with you right now. Yes I'll still do my race, I was smart enough to take a screenshot of my weather 'program' (random didn't generate a drop of rain last time) so will fill in all the details yet again. But have a nice 1 star review added on top of the rest.

There done deal

PD you crossed the line and never even thought twice, still defending your crap with that clueless response.
I spend over CAD 200 on GT7, feel like I've been had.

Anyway I'm gonna wash my car off with torrential rain on N24 through the night. If anything can make me feel better it's a multi-class endurance race on N24! Just got to set it all up again ugh.

Oh, current user score for GT7 is 2.7 atm

 

[Pfei]

I agree with you @Sven Jurgens in that the stingy credit payouts are really hampering Sport Mode. Now with the Test Season I signed for Subaru and got two loaner cars. But Subaru only gave me hard tires. So even with loaner cars you have to blow 150,000 on tires!

With four official races coming up next week, I am going to drop single player and the Dailies for now. It's not worth the "investment" (time, credits or real money which BTW no f#$@&*g way) to do anything else in this game right now. I already have every trophy except the online ones and the Legendary Cars. No way I am going to grind for anything until six months from now when we finally have a Legends race that could net a couple million per hour. PD can stick their unfinished game and shove it. Manufacturers Cup only for me for the foreseeable future.

 

[unfairlane]

I don`t think I`ve ever finished any game 100% and I`m still alive. Against all odds. (well mybe GT2)

 

[Chrome_PuPXD]

Well that's it. I'm signing up to Metacritic to add another 1 star review.

Everything in GT7 is designed to spoil the fun. At least it works again, yet somehow my balance is under 2 million again, was above before the server maintenance.

Anyway at 45K per fish race, I've given up for now on getting another GR.1 car you can't use yet anyway. TS050 was only use-able in the 24 minutes of Le Mans with lots of reductions and added weight.

So I wanted to do another 3h 24h endurance race on N24 (8x time compression). I set the whole thing up, weather carefully selected to have lots of rain this time. Selecting a nice mixed grid from my garage, all the highest pp cars I have so far. And then I want to race and see my current car is still the fish rally car. Can't change it I press go race, the game informs me you can't use dirt tires on this track and throws me out, resetting all settings. FFS

Shame on you PD, this long time fan has really had it with you right now. Yes I'll still do my race, I was smart enough to take a screenshot of my weather 'program' (random didn't generate a drop of rain last time) so will fill in all the details yet again. But have a nice 1 star review added on top of the rest.

There done deal
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PD you crossed the line and never even thought twice, still defending your crap with that clueless response.
I spend over CAD 200 on GT7, feel like I've been had.

Anyway I'm gonna wash my car off with torrential rain on N24 through the night. If anything can make me feel better it's a multi-class endurance race on N24! Just got to set it all up again ugh.

Oh, current user score for GT7 is 2.7 atm

Why the need to unlock everything 2 weeks after release? The statement indicates more lucrative events will be coming soon that will make hours of grinding the same event in its current form pointless, plus with likely ~3years of free content coming, its clear they want players to still have something to aim for even after some time has passed. I'll be playing until we get GT8 in about 3 decades so I don't see the need to fill my garage in the first month of release.

Thinking about GT5/6/Sport, all received criticism at the start but were developed further to be far greater than launch, I think GT7's foundation is stronger than any of those 3 so have confidence in PD to take it further.

 

[samppa_944]

I think the online bugs will be fixed in the near future. But yeah the credit grinding is too much for many. Even with my self-discipline and positive attitude (in the end this is what you need the most when grinding for credits for hours) and half decent skills. I doubt I will be able to keep up my current driving amount for that many weeks. Soon done menu books (doing last 3 on sunday or monday), which means less chances for brand invitations (somehow have had 2 of them lol).

That XJ13 is just too much for me and wallet stays closed (obviously). I am just taking advantage of my call it early eagerness into the game fully, before it turns to slightly more balanced gaming. FIA will make sure of that after test season 🤔 To save time, choosing Mazda for test season. Decent Atenza gr4 tune for Nurburgring and use it to help setup the 2 test season races too.

 

[Pfei]

Decent Atenza gr4 tune for Nurburgring and use it to help setup the 2 test season races too.

There is no setup in the Test Seasons. Check my post in the Test Season thread: Post in thread 'Gran Turismo World Series 2022 Discussion Thread' https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...s-2022-discussion-thread.406177/post-13637135

 

[Keef]

I'm a controller guy too. I think I hit a 47.0 the other day using the setup from @Harmonic . I might look at Kie's setup and see how it suits me. In the 47 bracket, it really comes down to how confident you are in the handling rather than a 'better' setup IMO.

It's weird going back and forward between GTS and GT7 handling - they are so different. Still about 200,000 to level 50 for me.

I saw from Super GT and Ollie's videos that Gr3 cars had setups and I'm just not into that. I'm not going to race Groups online until they're BoP races. That's the whole point of Groups.

 

[Pfei]

I saw from Super GT and Ollie's videos that Gr3 cars had setups and I'm just not into that. I'm not going to race Groups online until they're BoP races. That's the whole point of Groups.

Did you see my post above yours? Nations and Manufacturers are BoP, no setup.

 

[Keef]

Did you see my post above yours? Nations and Manufacturers are BoP, no setup.

I wasn't talking about the championships which only run on specific schedules, I was talking about the Dailys which are 24/7.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

I agree with you @Sven Jurgens in that the stingy credit payouts are really hampering Sport Mode. Now with the Test Season I signed for Subaru and got two loaner cars. But Subaru only gave me hard tires. So even with loaner cars you have to blow 150,000 on tires!

With four official races coming up next week, I am going to drop single player and the Dailies for now. It's not worth the "investment" (time, credits or real money which BTW no f#$@&*g way) to do anything else in this game right now. I already have every trophy except the online ones and the Legendary Cars. No way I am going to grind for anything until six months from now when we finally have a Legends race that could net a couple million per hour. PD can stick their unfinished game and shove it. Manufacturers Cup only for me for the foreseeable future.

Same here. I’ve concluded that playing GT7 exactly how I played GTS is the only way I’m going to get any enjoyment out of the game now. That means focusing exclusively on online championships when they’re active and doing daily races on my second account during off season. The single player is a lost cause.

Why the need to unlock everything 2 weeks after release? The statement indicates more lucrative events will be coming soon that will make hours of grinding the same event in its current form pointless, plus with likely ~3years of free content coming, its clear they want players to still have something to aim for even after some time has passed. I'll be playing until we get GT8 in about 3 decades so I don't see the need to fill my garage in the first month of release.

Thinking about GT5/6/Sport, all received criticism at the start but were developed further to be far greater than launch, I think GT7's foundation is stronger than any of those 3 so have confidence in PD to take it further.

Actions speak louder than words. I don’t have any faith in what Kaz has said today after he condoned lowering the payouts of several events using the most absurd reason imaginable. It’s a complete and utter contradiction. If you need to limit how much money players make to artificially extend the life of your game, then you made an objectively poorly designed game. And PD and Kaz need to own up to it instead of coming out with these pathetic excuses and trying to dangle a carrot in front of players promising to fix their mess at some unknown point in time. I was around for GT5 and GT6 since day 1 too and they had their share of stupid issues as well, but what’s happening with GT7 is unprecedented.

And virtually no one is trying to get all the cars in a few weeks. Don’t know where this keeps coming from. It’s physically impossible to do that anyway regardless of how much money you have because of the UCD and Legends dealer only let you buy so many cars at a time.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Why the need to unlock everything 2 weeks after release? The statement indicates more lucrative events will be coming soon that will make hours of grinding the same event in its current form pointless, plus with likely ~3years of free content coming, its clear they want players to still have something to aim for even after some time has passed. I'll be playing until we get GT8 in about 3 decades so I don't see the need to fill my garage in the first month of release.

Thinking about GT5/6/Sport, all received criticism at the start but were developed further to be far greater than launch, I think GT7's foundation is stronger than any of those 3 so have confidence in PD to take it further.

I was actually unlocking more GR.3 cars to find one I can use in the daily C that doesn't kill me and the others on the track This was my experience in the Citroen GT, 650K wasted:

It's 450K plus 150K for tires (although can just used hard tires for now) plus another 30K to unlock the transmission and ballast etc.

What I really want is to drive the 787B, R92CP and 962C around N24, make an endurance race with all GR.C and GR.1 cars. That seems further out of reach at this point than a manned Mars mission. Since GR.C cars aren't even for sale yet, I wanted to take the GR.1 911 along the N24, but it's 3 million plus tires. That's still another 24 CRB awful Fish 1st places away still, and then no money left to find a GR.3 car for the dailies. The online races hardly give any credits.

I'll be playing for a long time as well, yet in GT Sport it didn't take that long to get a good stable of GR.3 cars together. Plus we've all already gathered our online race stable. It's frustrating to have to do that again, plus pay for tires and extras.

I don't share your confidence after seeing what PD has done in the past years. Long standing bugs in GT Sport have never been fixed, the penalty system was simply abandoned, and now GT7 launches with a worse version of GT Sport online with old bugs kept and new bugs added. And after all that time, only 4 new tracks! (or rather 4 remastered tracks)

It's not just the crap economy, nerfing the only decent payout is just the last straw. Had PD instead increased the other payouts, especially custom races, it would have been fine despite all the other issues. Yet so many design choices are simply baffling and seem completely out of touch with the community. Why can't we share setups, why can't we save custom races, why can't we share custom race setups, where are the lobby options, why can't we change cars in the race screen, why can't we buy tires in the race screen, why do we need to buy tires at all for every single car, why launch the game with only half a campaign.

Anyway, my 3h endurance race is epic so far. I made it hard on myself with heavy damage and everything else at the hardest setting. (For a measly 54K payout if I win) It's so easy to spin out in heavy rain and heavy damage is immediate broken wheel and spoilers on any wall touch. A little harder wall touch, engine damage as well. I had to pit 3 times already for repairs But stayed out an extra lap when it was only minor damage, slightly steering left for 1.7 laps to go straight lol. It's scary, lot of fun, and starting to get dark now. I needed a coffee break before diving into the night with the next torrential downpour lined up

 

[samppa_944]

There is no setup in the Test Seasons. Check my post in the Test Season thread: Post in thread 'Gran Turismo World Series 2022 Discussion Thread' https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...s-2022-discussion-thread.406177/post-13637135

Even better, for time saving purposes. Hmm, but still probably choosing Mazda. Already have the gr3 car.

 

[meekrab]

Boggles the mind, PD have had corner cut penalties in GT Sport for 5 years but went live with nothing in GT7... smh.

 

[Tidgney]

Streaming daily races all day !

 

[pennanton]

Had my first proper bit of time with Race C today.

I was enthusiastic about tuning in dailies initially because I enjoyed the idea of taking any road car and plugging away at finding unexpected performance in it.

This ain’t it though. Lot of mediocre drivers driving meta cars with setups better than their talent levels. It’s all a mess and I’m pessimistic going forward.

 

[NikNakTobasco]

Had my first proper bit of time with Race C today.

I was enthusiastic about tuning in dailies initially because I enjoyed the idea of taking any road car and plugging away at finding unexpected performance in it.

This ain’t it though. Lot of mediocre drivers driving meta cars with setups better than their talent levels. It’s all a mess and I’m pessimistic going forward.

Not sure I follow you here. Which DR rooms are you in?

 

[Mercia]

Anyone come across Dynamic weather yet? I see clouds in your screenshots but I'm assuming no rain. I'm getting concerned dynamic weather is going to be singleplayer only....

I get the feeling it's going to be for specific races, similiar to how we had 'wet' races in Sport, but it'll be more like rain is guaranteed at some point in the race and you can adapt your strategy around it.

I'd also say Sport mode isn't in the rhythm they want it to be yet, we'll see what they do once the game has found its footing, there's plenty more for them to deal with before multiplayer gets their full attention again, unfortunately. They had to pull outright BOP because it was exploitable, I feel like the races we currently have are placeholders right now just to get something in there for people to play, rather than a group of races they've planned out.

 

[samppa_944]

Is Mazda RX-Vision good in quali for Daily C? Compared to say R8 evo and Huracan? 🤔

 

[pennanton]

Not sure I follow you here. Which DR rooms are you in?

It’s not complicated language. A and B, it’s inconsistent. I’ve had B drivers and a world tour driver in the same lobby.

 

[NikNakTobasco]

It’s not complicated language. A and B, it’s inconsistent. I’ve had B drivers and a world tour driver in the same lobby.

Mediocre drivers driving cars they can’t handle is the bit I don’t get. What should they be driving?
The rooms getting mismatched i agree with. I’m in races with Tidgeney this morning which is absurd.