GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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I did 3 race C last night, no quali as usual,finished 7th, 5th and 3rd in the Viper SRT. That advanced me to DR.B (started as DR.C)

I'm driving a stock car and it shows. Many people do as well in DR.C but its clear who has tuned or copied a tune since the winner is always 30 seconds ahead at the finish. Matchmaking is still a joke as well, putting a tuned R8 LMS Evo SR.B driver on pole. Does it not match on SR anymore? Why bother keeping SR.S if you still get matched with SR.B?

But I had one race where I actually had a bit of back and forth with another driver. First 'interaction' in GT7 instead of passing wrecks or getting wrecked. (Or a simple draft pass)

It has potential, the payout doesn't though. 17K for 3rd place with the Sauber C9 sitting at the dealer for 3 million. I can't 'afford' doing more online races. Got to grind before the GR.C car disappears again.
 
Sven Jurgens
I did 3 race C last night, no quali as usual,finished 7th, 5th and 3rd in the Viper SRT. That advanced me to DR.B (started as DR.C)

I'm driving a stock car and it shows. Many people do as well in DR.C but its clear who has tuned or copied a tune since the winner is always 30 seconds ahead at the finish. Matchmaking is still a joke as well, putting a tuned R8 LMS Evo SR.B driver on pole. Does it not match on SR anymore? Why bother keeping SR.S if you still get matched with SR.B?

But I had one race where I actually had a bit of back and forth with another driver. First 'interaction' in GT7 instead of passing wrecks or getting wrecked. (Or a simple draft pass)

It has potential, the payout doesn't though. 17K for 3rd place with the Sauber C9 sitting at the dealer for 3 million. I can't 'afford' doing more online races. Got to grind before the GR.C car disappears again.
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It is tough. Like you have to choose between FIA/dailies and car collecting I feel like 🥶 Can't do both all the time. FIA might work though if only BOP, no tuning. Test season seems like it 🤔 Sport mode needs bigger rewards.
 
Sven Jurgens
I did 3 race C last night, no quali as usual,finished 7th, 5th and 3rd in the Viper SRT. That advanced me to DR.B (started as DR.C)

I'm driving a stock car and it shows. Many people do as well in DR.C but its clear who has tuned or copied a tune since the winner is always 30 seconds ahead at the finish. Matchmaking is still a joke as well, putting a tuned R8 LMS Evo SR.B driver on pole. Does it not match on SR anymore? Why bother keeping SR.S if you still get matched with SR.B?

But I had one race where I actually had a bit of back and forth with another driver. First 'interaction' in GT7 instead of passing wrecks or getting wrecked. (Or a simple draft pass)

It has potential, the payout doesn't though. 17K for 3rd place with the Sauber C9 sitting at the dealer for 3 million. I can't 'afford' doing more online races. Got to grind before the GR.C car disappears again.
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The matchmaking would suggest there aren’t as many people online as there were in sport. Feels like they’re chucking in any players they can find. Splitting up PS4 and PS5 probably a large reason why. I’m getting matched with people I never would have in Sport.
 
Sven Jurgens
I was actually unlocking more GR.3 cars to find one I can use in the daily C that doesn't kill me and the others on the track :lol: This was my experience in the Citroen GT, 650K wasted:
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0:26 is a real series of unfortunate events :lol: If you can put the brake balance forward a bit you can avoid that oversteer under braking.
When looking for new cars you can look in circuit experience to see if a car you want is there and get a feel for the handling before shelling out only to find its not for you.
 
I'm done with the daily races, tried two today, it simply isn't any fun.

It's the same as early GT Sport again, people not using radar, blindly turning in on you. Yet now you get damage if not a penalty. Penalties don't work anyway. I got punted into the new chicane barriers by a laggy Brazillian. My car wouldn't get back up to speed until after the finish line, severely damaged. No penalty, nothing for the Brazillian, just drove on at full speed. Track limits are as incomprehensible as ever and now I 'advanced' to DR.B it's just more and more copy paste tunes to race against.

For an hour play, just shy of 20K credits. So that's 150 hours to be able to buy the Sauber C9 :lol:

I also did 3 Mount Panorama races in GT Sport. Much higher quality racing there, mostly close and fair. But there are more trouble makers now cause matchmaking has far less people to work with. It's also Saturday of course. And in GT Sport you have refined dirty drivers that will push you off just before a braking zone to make sure you fly off into oblivion.

I'll avoid online for a while, PD has ruined an already broken thing even more. No idea whether the golden years of GT Sport will come back in GT7, so far it's just worse in every way. (Except the pretty light change during the race and extra challenge of the track cooling down)

Btw I did sign up for the manu cup (not sure if I'll actually bother showing up) and it gave me two cars I already have. Can I race with my own, or do I have to buy tires etc to race with the loaner cars...
 
Yeah I did the Race 3 in GT7, got punted into the barrier and ended up with damage which confused the hell out of me.

I did go back to GT Sport and did some races around the Nurburgring which was a blast
 
Sven Jurgens
I'm done with the daily races, tried two today, it simply isn't any fun.

It's the same as early GT Sport again, people not using radar, blindly turning in on you. Yet now you get damage if not a penalty. Penalties don't work anyway. I got punted into the new chicane barriers by a laggy Brazillian. My car wouldn't get back up to speed until after the finish line, severely damaged. No penalty, nothing for the Brazillian, just drove on at full speed. Track limits are as incomprehensible as ever and now I 'advanced' to DR.B it's just more and more copy paste tunes to race against.
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I've had some better experiences since the game has returned, after some pretty chaotic races early in the week. I noticed today people are more wary of contact due to the penalty system and two guys who shoved past me to get out of the infield at Daytona both received penalties for their troubles.

On the other side when someone broke way too early in front of me and I ended up hitting them as I had nowhere to go I was just waiting for the penalty but it never came, so perhaps there's been some adjustment there, or perhaps it's just hit and miss as it ever was and I got the rub and you didn't this time.

It's tough to go back to Sport as I know anything I'm doing there is not going towards anything and the graphic drop really is noticeable.
 
Sven Jurgens
I'm done with the daily races, tried two today, it simply isn't any fun.

It's the same as early GT Sport again, people not using radar, blindly turning in on you. Yet now you get damage if not a penalty. Penalties don't work anyway. I got punted into the new chicane barriers by a laggy Brazillian. My car wouldn't get back up to speed until after the finish line, severely damaged. No penalty, nothing for the Brazillian, just drove on at full speed. Track limits are as incomprehensible as ever and now I 'advanced' to DR.B it's just more and more copy paste tunes to race against.

For an hour play, just shy of 20K credits. So that's 150 hours to be able to buy the Sauber C9 :lol:

I also did 3 Mount Panorama races in GT Sport. Much higher quality racing there, mostly close and fair. But there are more trouble makers now cause matchmaking has far less people to work with. It's also Saturday of course. And in GT Sport you have refined dirty drivers that will push you off just before a braking zone to make sure you fly off into oblivion.

I'll avoid online for a while, PD has ruined an already broken thing even more. No idea whether the golden years of GT Sport will come back in GT7, so far it's just worse in every way. (Except the pretty light change during the race and extra challenge of the track cooling down)

Btw I did sign up for the manu cup (not sure if I'll actually bother showing up) and it gave me two cars I already have. Can I race with my own, or do I have to buy tires etc to race with the loaner cars...
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The game has so much potential and I’m very pleased that a collision penalty system is in place but it has flaws. Due to the ’very particular’ physics engine we have now its so easy to be PIT manoeuvred, be it accidentally or not. This never results in a penalty so some people do it on purpose. Randomly braking when someone is right behind will net the following car a 2 second penalty and pinball corners can end in a seemingly random allocation of penalties.
I also I think the terrible connections on the servers are causing accidents, lagging all over the place will inevitably result in collisions at close quarters. How is the whole field driving around with 2 or 3 dot pings.
 
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NikNakTobasco
The game has so much potential and I’m very pleased that a collision penalty system is in place but it has flaws. Due to the ’very particular’ physics engine we have now its so easy to be PIT manoeuvred, be it accidentally or not. This never results in a penalty so some people do it on purpose. Randomly braking when someone is right behind will net the following car a 2 second penalty and pinball corners can end in a seemingly random allocation of penalties.
I also I think the terrible connections on the servers are causing accidents, lagging all over the place will inevitably result in collisions at close quarters. How is the whole field driving around with 2 or 3 dot pings.
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The game uses a different server for the ps5. When I tried GT7 on ps4 pro, I got 5 bars as many others in the race. Yet in GT7 it's always capped to 3 bars with worse in between.

Dunno if PD fixed the non starter bugs with he ps4 pro version. 2 out of the 5 races I tried there resulted in auto-drive for the entire race, while others simply got a black screen.

Take your pick, lag or 40% chance the race won't work :banghead:

I'm doing the WTC 800 champion**** again to earn credits for the Sauber C9. That's not misspelled... After racing with the AI in custom races where they are half decent, it's quite a shock to go back to campaign AI. It looks like their brake lights have a lose connection, blip blip blip through the corner, painfully slow. And they just wander over and cut you off as if you're not there. It's nothing but a bunch of slow moving pylons to navigate around. Yet when you're passing, they suddenly speed up and try to cut you off. But it's 90K for 7 laps :/
 
Mercia
I've had some better experiences since the game has returned, after some pretty chaotic races early in the week. I noticed today people are more wary of contact due to the penalty system and two guys who shoved past me to get out of the infield at Daytona both received penalties for their troubles.

On the other side when someone broke way too early in front of me and I ended up hitting them as I had nowhere to go I was just waiting for the penalty but it never came, so perhaps there's been some adjustment there, or perhaps it's just hit and miss as it ever was and I got the rub and you didn't this time.

It's tough to go back to Sport as I know anything I'm doing there is not going towards anything and the graphic drop really is noticeable.
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I did a race c earlier today I was slowing down in the breaking zone for turn 1 as you do. Person behind out breaks themselves and ploughs into my rear. I somehow kept it under control and on the track just. The person who hit me loses control and puts it in the barrier. I get a 2 second penalty for hitting another car so yeah I may have said a rude word or six.

On the whole though the penalty system seems a bit better than what I recall from my GTS days but it can still a bit inconsistent and nonsensical at times as well
 
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Jesus Christ, no wonder I’ve been going backwards the last couple of days. I thought some physics change with the update was causing me problems. Apparently I’ve been driving around with ‘bad oil’. Oil changed and within ten minutes knocked over four tenths off my qualy. Christ knows how much DR that has cost me over the last two days.
 
NikNakTobasco
Mediocre drivers driving cars they can’t handle is the bit I don’t get. What should they be driving?
The rooms getting mismatched i agree with. I’m in races with Tidgeney this morning which is absurd.
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Handle wasn’t a word that was mentioned, have another read.

I’m A, and other A drivers are being outpaced by B drivers driving inconsistently, missing apexes and displaying average race craft. The fact they make up most of the time on corner exits and down the straights suggests they’re in the right car with the right setup more than anything.

I was following a B driver at Daytona that was consistently missing T1, and the right handed hairpin after, then somehow gaining 4 tenths on the left and exit to the oval and carrying it all the way to the line to be around 1 sec a lap faster.
 
pennanton
Handle wasn’t a word that was mentioned, have another read.

I’m A, and other A drivers are being outpaced by B drivers driving inconsistently, missing apexes and displaying average race craft. The fact they make up most of the time on corner exits and down the straights suggests they’re in the right car with the right setup more than anything.

I was following a B driver at Daytona that was consistently missing T1, and the right handed hairpin after, then somehow gaining 4 tenths on the left and exit to the oval and carrying it all the way to the line to be around 1 sec a lap faster.
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Still don’t get the problem. They’re driving the best cars available to them. Everyone’s using the tunes that are on YouTube. You could do the same.
 
pennanton
Handle wasn’t a word that was mentioned, have another read.

I’m A, and other A drivers are being outpaced by B drivers driving inconsistently, missing apexes and displaying average race craft. The fact they make up most of the time on corner exits and down the straights suggests they’re in the right car with the right setup more than anything.

I was following a B driver at Daytona that was consistently missing T1, and the right handed hairpin after, then somehow gaining 4 tenths on the left and exit to the oval and carrying it all the way to the line to be around 1 sec a lap faster.
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PP system is broken, that's why. check video I shared few posts above.
 
I entered about 10 Daily Race B's today, but got stuck 4 of those times on various screens before actually entering the race and needed to quit GT7. The last one I tried had a PSN friend in it who also said he was stuck forever and unable to race. My network connection looks good, and since it happened to two of us, I'm guessing it's a server issue.

Frustrating.
 
NikNakTobasco
Still don’t get the problem. They’re driving the best cars available to them. Everyone’s using the tunes that are on YouTube. You could do the same.
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Wasn’t my contention initially that I wasn’t a fan of the system? Considering we came from a rigid BoP in GTS to open tuning in 7 I feel like I shouldn’t have to spell that out for you. Whether I can do the same as others isn’t the counter to the point I put forth initially. Please read.
 
pennanton
Wasn’t my contention initially that I wasn’t a fan of the system? Considering we came from a rigid BoP in GTS to open tuning in 7 I feel like I shouldn’t have to spell that out for you. Whether I can do the same as others isn’t the counter to the point I put forth initially. Please read.
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I want BoP back as much or more than anyone. But if you’re going into races with people you say are much worse than you and losing because they’ve got better tunes it seems like there’s a very simple solution. If you’re stubbornly using stock cars on principle then I would say that’s an admirable stance you’re taking.
 
I tried daily race A, for the kicks, not a fan of sport mode, but what the heck. Then the darn thing froze on the loading screen after queuing. Huh.
 
NikNakTobasco
I want BoP back as much or more than anyone. But if you’re going into races with people you say are much worse than you and losing because they’ve got better tunes it seems like there’s a very simple solution. If you’re stubbornly using stock cars on principle then I would say that’s an admirable stance you’re taking.
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I was (stubbornly using stock cars) and have now given up on GT7 sport mode. It has become the real road rage simulator. I don't know what's worse, the campaign ride the brakes AI or drivers in youtube tunes plowing into you.

I did finish my grind for the Sauber Mercedes after dinner, had to grind some more to buy tires and transmission for it, and now I don't feel like driving it. Too pissed off at the game atm. Horizon FW tonight, maybe I'll take it for a spin tomorrow. No credits left so there better not be another GR.C car up there tomorrow.
 
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NikNakTobasco
I want BoP back as much or more than anyone. But if you’re going into races with people you say are much worse than you and losing because they’ve got better tunes it seems like there’s a very simple solution. If you’re stubbornly using stock cars on principle then I would say that’s an admirable stance you’re taking.
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See what I don’t understand is why you’re insinuating I’m beating my head against the wall trying again and again and losing? I played 5 hours yesterday, got nowhere with my tuning and results and realised it’s not for me. I made my post and my position known but for some reason you think the solution to this is ‘lol just get a tune from YouTube and have fun bro just roll with the unbalanced game bro’.

Well, no, I won’t. I’ll just play single player and sleep soundly at night. Issue done?
 
Cherryturbo
Thought of the day:

Single player mode is start at the back and barge your way to the front. Sport mode is try to start as high as possible then avoid getting barged from the rear.
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Indeed in Sport mode you become the rabbit
 
BalsBrother
On the whole though the penalty system seems a bit better than what I recall from my GTS days but it can still a bit inconsistent and nonsensical at times as well
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Over the course of my time with it this weekend I'd say overall I'm pretty happy with it. I can accept the odd expletive laden outburst as long as I can see that it is consistently punishing those barging past or hitting me, hopefully it will encourage a rise in driving standards if kept as it is and tweaked over time.

There's plenty of times playing in cockpit view as well I've judged myself to be in the right in the moment but then looking back in the replay it was my poor positioning or awareness that's caused the problem, as much I try to race clean whenever possible.

Rather it was wrong 1 in 10 times than not there at all.
 

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