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Am I braking too early here or what? Isn't the first time I'm getting pounced on here and dumped in the sand, but if I brake later I go far too wide.

 
Nope. He missed his braking point and used your car instead.
I must be having bad luck with the lobbies then as it seems to be every race, left me in a sour mood yesterday unfortunately.
That’s pretty much where I brake, but usually a bit tighter so anyone following doesn’t have a target.
I don't think I was expecting it from there, but even if I go tight it gives me a slow exit and prime for a divebomb into that downhill left. I will keep working on it 👍
 
Am I braking too early here or what? Isn't the first time I'm getting pounced on here and dumped in the sand, but if I brake later I go far too wide.


He brakes in the same place I do in the Porsche. I haven’t tried the Viper, but the 911 can brake there and comfortably get around the turn. Are you braking too hard for too long maybe?

He shouldn’t have hit you though. Given his position he should have been ready to run tighter to overtake if the opportunity presented itself.
 
He brakes in the same place I do in the Porsche. I haven’t tried the Viper, but the 911 can brake there and comfortably get around the turn. Are you braking too hard for too long maybe?

He shouldn’t have hit you though. Given his position he should have been ready to run tighter to overtake if the opportunity presented itself.
Is the Porsche that good on the brakes? If I brake under that bridge instead of 10 meters before it, I usually overshoot the turn (with different cars so far).

Well, maybe I have to practice trailbraking a bit more.
 
Am I braking too early here or what? Isn't the first time I'm getting pounced on here and dumped in the sand, but if I brake later I go far too wide.


The Porsche breaks where I do: right when the timer is in the middle of the bridge. The Porsche could have avoided it by breaking hard a tiny bit longer. Could be an honest mistake really.

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This is where I hit the break with the 911
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One thing is, I don't drive in that position, but in this one
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Went back to Rallycross and got more consistent so headed out in NA. Ouch. Saw some familiar faces but it was a bit bumpy. I did slam one person I thought had just shoved me wide to pass, but I did make sure we had a big gap behind and let them back by. Stupid, but so is some of that race.

Turn 1 is lethal there. I've made it through 1 time without getting hit, and that's when I didn't know the track and couldn't take advantage. Tonight in 1 race I actually managed to get punted before we even got to the braking zone for turn 1. I can't even figure out how as I was passing the cars in front because I had such a good start. Oh well. It is an adventure for sure.
 
Am I braking too early here or what? Isn't the first time I'm getting pounced on here and dumped in the sand, but if I brake later I go far too wide.


Honestly hard to tell from the other car's perspective. I use bumper cam, so I'd have to see your car's POV from bumper.

However... people need to understand not everyone is in their car and on their tires with the same amount of wear. You're in a Mustang and he is in a Porsche, maybe you're on RH and he's on RMs. The Porsche, on its own, has better braking than the Mustang so he needs to know that and understand you may brake "early" to him... even though you're not braking early at all... you're braking exactly where you need to for being the car/tires you're on. 99.9% of the time, if car B rear ends car A then it's car B's fault.




Anyone, other than @timekiller001 use the Alfa for C? I had enough time last night for one more race and I was set to use it, then the race crashed/disconnected before it even started, so I didn't get the chance. Didn't have the time to wait 30 mins for the next race and 20 mins for it to be done.

Car seemed to drive well. Felt kinda like the BRZ but with some MR rotation (which now isn't a bad thing). But, again, haven't seen it in race pace yet. Tire strats? 6/4? 7/3?
 
Race A summed up in 1 clip.

Dirty driving, at least 1 insult to injury penalty and ghosting throughout.
Went back to Rallycross and got more consistent so headed out in NA. Ouch. Saw some familiar faces but it was a bit bumpy. I did slam one person I thought had just shoved me wide to pass, but I did make sure we had a big gap behind and let them back by. Stupid, but so is some of that race.

Turn 1 is lethal there. I've made it through 1 time without getting hit, and that's when I didn't know the track and couldn't take advantage. Tonight in 1 race I actually managed to get punted before we even got to the braking zone for turn 1. I can't even figure out how as I was passing the cars in front because I had such a good start. Oh well. It is an adventure for sure.
I "raced" you in the last :40 race but I was punted in the first braking zone and after fighting through the chaos of the next 2 laps, didn't have time to catch back up. Also, I don't blame you for retaliation against people if it doesn't slow anyone else down. I pretty much race this like how I watched X Games rallycross 10 or so years ago, don't worry about giving or taking bumps but if someone obviously slams me I will try to get revenge when no one else is around.
 


Anyone, other than @timekiller001 use the Alfa for C? I had enough time last night for one more race and I was set to use it, then the race crashed/disconnected before it even started, so I didn't get the chance. Didn't have the time to wait 30 mins for the next race and 20 mins for it to be done.

Car seemed to drive well. Felt kinda like the BRZ but with some MR rotation (which now isn't a bad thing). But, again, haven't seen it in race pace yet. Tire strats? 6/4? 7/3?
Very much like the BRZ in race, I'm a little faster with it as it's seat is on the left in cockpit view, doesn't require relearning the perspective like the BRZ.

Pitted lap 6 but it could have gone 7 if I hadn't been shoved off a couple of times at the start, lobby was a little wild with stupid moves the order of the day early on.

9th to 4th though, decent run and it felt quick through the corners if not so much on the straight.

My favourite is the F-Type so far, competitive with the Porsche speed wise and as a cockpit player my view isn't obscured by the steering wheel as it is in the 911.
 
I’m actually really enjoying race B! Maybe I’ve just been lucky with the quality of drivers around me, but it’s been some really good close racing!

I still haven’t managed to link a good qualifying lap together (2.09.4, what hurts is my friend has me by a tenth…a high 2.08 should be within reach) but I’ve found the racing really fun! The hardest part is going mistake free when you’re so close behind you have to guess where the apex is…
 
I’m actually really enjoying race B! Maybe I’ve just been lucky with the quality of drivers around me, but it’s been some really good close racing!

I still haven’t managed to link a good qualifying lap together (2.09.4, what hurts is my friend has me by a tenth…a high 2.08 should be within reach) but I’ve found the racing really fun! The hardest part is going mistake free when you’re so close behind you have to guess where the apex is…

I'm enjoying Race B too and getting used to predicting where the shoves are gonna be so learned to avoid most now 🤣

What's a bit annoying is my starting positions. I previously had a 2:10:8 and was starting 10th and right in the middle of the madness.

Improved to 2:10:5 and was hoping for at least a P9 but didn't make much of a difference.

Today I managed a 2:10:3 (see below) but moved up a Tier and starting 14th 😐🫣😱



Now I really need to get in the 2:09s if I am to have a decent start but can't find more time on my own...

Any tips? I tried doing the S's in sector 1 in 3rd gear but was losing a lot of time. The double left hander before the back straight i think is losing me time but not sure what to change... Tried different approaches but the one in the video seems to be my best version..
 
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I’m actually really enjoying race B! Maybe I’ve just been lucky with the quality of drivers around me, but it’s been some really good close racing!

I still haven’t managed to link a good qualifying lap together (2.09.4, what hurts is my friend has me by a tenth…a high 2.08 should be within reach) but I’ve found the racing really fun! The hardest part is going mistake free when you’re so close behind you have to guess where the apex is…
You call that hurt? Hurt is being at 2:11 like I am. Bear your suffering like a man! ;)
 
Now I really need to get in the 2:09s if I am to have a decent start but can't find more time on my own...

Any tips? I tried doing the S's in sector 1 in 3rd gear but was losing a lot of time. The double left hander before the back straight i think is losing me time but not sure what to change... Tried different approaches but the one in the video seems to be my best version..
i'm north america, which is definitely less deep, and i'm mostly starting pole at 2:10.1s. i'd guess i'm quicker in the long bends, the right hander at the start and the sweeping left towards the end (about 1m30s into your video). that second one i usually sweep in closer - i brush the inside curbs a lot and try to power out. i take those early S-bends in 3rd gear, though i've not even considered 4th so no clue if you've got me there. also you are upshifting way earlier than me, which i'll have to mess with!

your lap reminds me why i like this course so much - different ways to solve the puzzle / perfection is extremely hard to achieve. i know people dog the Alfa 155 but i find it a lot more enjoyable than the meta Gr4 FF cars from GTS... unfortunately, with the hard tires, theres a small margin for error and i suspect that makes it seem like a 'dirty driver' car. for me, its much easier to avoid contact in the Alfa than the GTR - but i imagine it ends up being very twitchy on controller. in my mind, this is a race combo where having the wheel/pedal (logitech g29) has a bigger advantage - its easy to coast at a half-speeds and make little adjustments on the long turns.
 
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i'm north america, which is definitely less deep, and i'm mostly starting pole at 2:10.1s. i'd guess i'm quicker in the long bends, the right hander at the start and the sweeping left towards the end (about 1m30s into your video). that second one i usually sweep in closer - i brush the inside curbs a lot and try to power out. i take those early S-bends in 3rd gear, though i've not even considered 4th so no clue if you've got me there. also you are upshifting way earlier than me, which i'll have to mess with!

your lap reminds me why i like this course so much - different ways to solve the puzzle / perfection is extremely hard to achieve. i know people dog the Alfa 155 but i find it a lot more enjoyable than the meta Gr4 FF cars from GTS... unfortunately, with the hard tires, theres a small margin for error and i suspect that makes it seem like a 'dirty driver' car. for me, its much easier to avoid contact in the Alfa than the GTR - but i imagine it ends up being very twitchy on controller. in my mind, this is a race combo where having the wheel/pedal (logitech g29) has a bigger advantage - its easy to coast at a half-speeds and make little adjustments on the long turns.

Thanks man, will definitely see if I can try to copy your suggestions. My sector 1 time in the video is 0:36:8 (I think) but I've done even 0:36:3 a few times, just not in this lap.

As for the upshift, i noticed from last week at Gardens that you gain speed faster by shifting earlier than over-revving it.
 
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Finally got to grips with the Alfa.

I'd been avoiding Gr.4 races almost completely because of the typical meta, but confident at Suzuka as I am I thought it would represent a good opportunity to practice. I'm finally understanding how to control the oversteer under braking and dug out a decent 2.10.3xx after an hour or so of early-morning seshing after work.

That seems enough to put me happily in the top 10 at peak times, and with plenty to work with. Each race has presented unique challenges... Over-eager tail-gaters, tenuous braking, hard defending, bunched-up first laps, Shadow realm entries. Suzuka has it all!

I'm pleased that I made the effort.
 
Finally got to grips with the Alfa.

I'd been avoiding Gr.4 races almost completely because of the typical meta, but confident at Suzuka as I am I thought it would represent a good opportunity to practice. I'm finally understanding how to control the oversteer under braking and dug out a decent 2.10.3xx after an hour or so of early-morning seshing after work.

That seems enough to put me happily in the top 10 at peak times, and with plenty to work with. Each race has presented unique challenges... Over-eager tail-gaters, tenuous braking, hard defending, bunched-up first laps, Shadow realm entries. Suzuka has it all!

I'm pleased that I made the effort.
Seems like I can't drive the Alfa. Although I wouldn't want to enter the race, I have to admit that I tried to get at least a decent Q time. Which I didn't. At first, I tried to get as smoothly round the track as possible, like I usually tend to drive with other cars, but was utterly useless. 2:11:5 was the best I could do. Then I watched some replays of top 10 drivers and was astonished how aggressive they are driving, hard on the brakes, hard on throttle, and abruptly turning the wheel. I tried to copy that style, and after more than an hour of trying, I managed to get to 2:11:0 regularly, with one single lucky outlier of 2:10:7. Seems like that's the best I can do. I can't avoid to make mistakes in every single lap. Just lacking control of the car. And obviously I'm giving up at least some tenths per lap by still not having learned to use MT.

So, still a lot to learn. But this track/car combo and I won't become friends this week.
 
Anyone had the weird issue on daily race A of traction actually being on? I’ve won two tonight from pole but last 3 races I’ve had TC forced on and miles off pace 🤦🏼‍♂️😫
 
Anyone had the weird issue on daily race A of traction actually being on? I’ve won two tonight from pole but last 3 races I’ve had TC forced on and miles off pace 🤦🏼‍♂️😫
It's a bug in the game. If you don't do any quali/practice sessions before the race, TC turns on by itslef.
 
Just 2 races this evening for me. I didn't improve my qualifying time as I jumped straight into some lobbies.

Race 1 has me P9 in a stacked lobby and I have my work cut out for me. I do get to P7 and am right on the tail of P6 on lap 3, but I run wide in Spoon and fall to P11 where I finish. That was a huge letdown as I was holding my own against some good drivers. This was also my 100th sport mode race so I got that going for me.

Race 2 is mainly the same field, but I'm down in P11 to start. Thanks to a ton of people spinning out, I get to P6 and am keeping pace with P5. P7 catches up to us, loses it in turn 1 after a huge lunge, and hits me and I take damage. Sigh... I fall to P8 after that. Fortunately, they got a penalty for hitting some on on the previous lap and I pass them before R130. They try to hit me as I go by but they stay ghosted thank goodness. They then get punted to oblivion by another driver as they were doing dirty stuff all race. I cross the line in back in P6.

Minus the spin in race 1, I had a good time racing again and much cleaner overall as compared to yesterday. Again, I'm looking forward to some more racing tomorrow.
 
i'm north america, which is definitely less deep, and i'm mostly starting pole at 2:10.1s. i'd guess i'm quicker in the long bends, the right hander at the start and the sweeping left towards the end (about 1m30s into your video). that second one i usually sweep in closer - i brush the inside curbs a lot and try to power out. i take those early S-bends in 3rd gear, though i've not even considered 4th so no clue if you've got me there. also you are upshifting way earlier than me, which i'll have to mess with!

your lap reminds me why i like this course so much - different ways to solve the puzzle / perfection is extremely hard to achieve. i know people dog the Alfa 155 but i find it a lot more enjoyable than the meta Gr4 FF cars from GTS... unfortunately, with the hard tires, theres a small margin for error and i suspect that makes it seem like a 'dirty driver' car. for me, its much easier to avoid contact in the Alfa than the GTR - but i imagine it ends up being very twitchy on controller. in my mind, this is a race combo where having the wheel/pedal (logitech g29) has a bigger advantage - its easy to coast at a half-speeds and make little adjustments on the long turns.
Yeah I second your tips - I'm much more aggressive turn one...just a slight touch of the brakes at the 50m or so, coast through the apex and gently on the brakes through the mid corner. I run the esses in 3rd, and am probably more aggressive through the right hander at the end too (it's a little hard to tell the exact speeds as I use kph, but I don't coast much, I trail brake through there a fair bit). The rest of your lap looks pretty spot on - I use 1st at the hairpin for turn in and back to 2nd before I get on the throttle.
 
Now I really need to get in the 2:09s if I am to have a decent start but can't find more time on my own...

Any tips? I tried doing the S's in sector 1 in 3rd gear but was losing a lot of time. The double left hander before the back straight i think is losing me time but not sure what to change... Tried different approaches but the one in the video seems to be my best version..

I'm probably nowhere near qualified to be handing out tips but from the lap you shared this is what i thought....
You can attack the first corner a bit more, don't change to 4th until you reach the middle of the curb on the right, then try and open up the next corner by getting as close to the kerb on the left, change to 3rd and once you feel the car is stable nail the throttle. For the S section it's defo faster to do it in 3rd. Only other thing is you could maybe of cut the first bit of the last chicane a bit more.

I didn't do any races today just TT mainly for Race C, If you haven't watched it check out Prima Kylian's lap in the BRZ (i think its the top time) and take note of his gearing.......Though i combination of shifting where he does and taking better lines i managed to take a second off my best time in the BRZ.
 
I'm enjoying Race B too and getting used to predicting where the shoves are gonna be so learned to avoid most now 🤣

What's a bit annoying is my starting positions. I previously had a 2:10:8 and was starting 10th and right in the middle of the madness.

Improved to 2:10:5 and was hoping for at least a P9 but didn't make much of a difference.

Today I managed a 2:10:3 (see below) but moved up a Tier and starting 14th 😐🫣😱



Now I really need to get in the 2:09s if I am to have a decent start but can't find more time on my own...

Any tips? I tried doing the S's in sector 1 in 3rd gear but was losing a lot of time. The double left hander before the back straight i think is losing me time but not sure what to change... Tried different approaches but the one in the video seems to be my best version..

I started testing the Viper there yesterday... if I can get rid of my careless mistakes... then the Viper is a real alternative... And wow is that thing fast on the straights. a 1.10.xxx will not be a problem.. a 1.09.xxx I think that will also be possible.
 
Race B is fun even through I keep messing up and putting myself under unnecessary pressure.
Once again I’ve out qualified myself and in the 4 races I did yesterday I started pole. Resulting in 2 wins and 2 P2 finishes. My best lap in race was 2.10.8 which is just about ok to hold position but I seem to make many little mistakes throughout the race and obviously in two of the races allowed myself to be overtaken. Race B grids are usually a lot weaker than race c with only 4 or 5 A+ in at most so I definitely need to work on the consistency if I want to hold my own in a strong lobby where I’d probably start 2 or 3 places further down the grid.
 
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Did some race Cs last night. Jumped on the main account in the Porsche and did a race but it was basically a parade sessions. Started in P2 and finished in P3. Got passed as on lap 6 my left front tire was completely red. Caught me off guard because I've done the 6/4 many times without issue, but in this race maybe I was extra hard on the tires or I was caught in the dirty air too much of the guy ahead. Regardless, it was bad enough the wheel actually canted a bit like there was damage to the car. Thankfully, I was only passed by one person as the latter half of the lap I couldn't turn right to save my life.

Jumped on the 2 account to try some different cars. Got punted/pushed off three times in two races by the same guy so that always makes things fun. On that account I don't care if I am racing for 3rd or racing for 13th, I just want to race other people so I put in a quali time in the Alfa on RH tires. Didn't work out so well.

Didn't really like the Alfa. Like the BRZ it handled really well but was slow on the straights; unlike the BRZ it wasn't as good on the tires. On the Alfa I did a 4/6

RS01 was actually very good from a drivability perspective. The car handles great, but it's super slow on the straights. Slower than the Porsche and it might be slower than the BRZ. Did a 5/5.

McLaren 650 was very good. This was probably my most fun race as I started in like P10 or something and was up to P3 by lap 8 with a lot of close racing and good passes. But, on that little back straight the guy I was passing didn't like it and started ramming into me. Fortunately, I didn't crash but unfortunately neither did he. I was so paranoid he was going to yeet me into T1 I was looking in the mirror too much, missed my turn in point for T2 and lost the car.

Last but not least the Ford GT LM 18. Liked this car; a lot of understeer but it's really quick on the straights. Put in a little better quali time as I was tired of getting hit; started P4 and by lap two was in P2 behind a Porsche. Despite me being within less than one second for every remaining lap I couldn't get passed. I think I was quicker but catching vs passing and all that. Finished P2 .177" behind (basically nose to tail). Fair play to him.
 
It is. Got basically the same Q time like in the BRZ, but much more fun to drive. How is it on tyres?
Pretty good, honestly. Since I was starting towards the back I started on RH and was a little paranoid about putting the RMs on too early as I wasn't sure how the car was with the tire. So, I did a 5/5 but think a 4/6 would've worked as well. I am going to do more with it; was my favorite of the cars I tested out yesterday.

I swear one of you really fast buggers could get the F-Type round in a crazy time, it's very competitive.
@Bullwinkle used the Jag in a race we were in together. Maybe he can shed some light?
 
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