GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[zjn]

On the opposite side, I was running a Race B and went with a dive to a guy in the middle of last lap. I mis-judged it and sent him out.

Luckly for both the wolfpack was far away.
He recovered, I waited for him and let him retake his position.

For the remaining of the last lap he covered well and I was not able to pass.

On the final straight he slowed
down to allow me to pass.

I eventually slowed down too, and he kept the position for few ms...

Sharing success and failures with guys like him makes racing online worth.

 

[Talon16]

@Trucker35 No, it was not me. I've not done any Bs or Cs this week... as of yet anyway.

 

[Trucker35]

@Trucker35 No, it was not me. I've not done any Bs or Cs this week... as of yet anyway.

Ok then I don't feel as bad for banging doors with the other talon lol

 

[Roggers]

I want this every week. Good hard clean racing! Had a great battle with the Spanish driver. Started P7 and fuel saved on the 1st stint. The Spanish driver started from the back and was quick! By lap 6 the Spanish driver had caught up and past me. End of lap 7 P4-P7 (myself in P7) were all separated by about 4 seconds and we all pitted on the same lap. The fuel save paid off as I jumped all 3 cars ahead. I had enough fuel to run flat out, with a little fuel saving, but it was tough trying to defend from the Spanish driver. I feel like that was some of my best racing to date. End of lap 12 made the error that allowed them through, as I didn’t cover the inside. Cross the line P5 and out of fuel.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Just need to vent here. Just did two race b's. A driver pitted me on the hairpin before the long turn, on lap 1. He's been a thorn in my side before - not a clean racer. Starting next race, I chatted saying "You pitted me. Don't do it again." He said he was sorry. Then on the last lap of this second race, he did the exact same thing. Afterwards one guy called him dirty, and I said "Seriously?". He said something about going too fast. I said "Once is a mistake, twice is on purpose".

He said, and I quote: "I need help". smh.

[insert a series of derogatory invectives and expletives]

Next time take him out as a precautionary action

 

[JP76]

I like this Race B, really enjoing


Yesterday something wreid happened.... on the main straight the guy in front on me was continously going left-right. Doing that he acually slowed down / travelled more, so I was able to close the gap, even though I was still 2-3 cars behind.

At some point, his car disappeared, letterally disappeared, not just ghosted

I continued with my line. Later on, still far from the turning point, his car reappered "into mine". crash and sand for both....


What the @#@#?!? Halloween summon?

 

[TheOneDonJuan]

Raced C last night in the Vette. Started pole and first race get obliterated in the first right to left after the hairpin. Dude didn't even try to be subtle, just straight up rammed me.

Raced again later and was better but I pitted after Lap 7 (Mediums) and swapped to hards. Fueled up to about 60-65% and thought it was enough. Nope. Ran out of fuel on Lap 11. Literally coasted into pit lane. How are people fueling up? At least the drivers were good.

 

[Nebuc72]

Raced C last night in the Vette. Started pole and first race get obliterated in the first right to left after the hairpin. Dude didn't even try to be subtle, just straight up rammed me.

Raced again later and was better but I pitted after Lap 7 (Mediums) and swapped to hards. Fueled up to about 60-65% and thought it was enough. Nope. Ran out of fuel on Lap 11. Literally coasted into pit lane. How are people fueling up? At least the drivers were good.

There's a diamond on the fuel bar when you are re-fueling that indicates how much you'll need to go to the end. Just fuel to that.

 

[hollowkatt]

Raced C last night in the Vette. Started pole and first race get obliterated in the first right to left after the hairpin. Dude didn't even try to be subtle, just straight up rammed me.

Raced again later and was better but I pitted after Lap 7 (Mediums) and swapped to hards. Fueled up to about 60-65% and thought it was enough. Nope. Ran out of fuel on Lap 11. Literally coasted into pit lane. How are people fueling up? At least the drivers were good.

I just do the math on laps remaining. So lets say I start the race with 9 laps remaining and I pit on lap 7 of 13 then I do the math on laps remaining subtracted from laps to go and fuel to that many laps. Apparently there's a diamond that tells you what you need. I had no idea.
I also don't bother to fuel save b/c I'm an automatic on controller so it's go hard all the time. Probs losing some results because of that but honestly idc really

 

[HickOnACrick]

Picked up almost 5 seconds at the kart track today. I am getting worse at online racing, but faster on the track; so there's that.

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

Was he actually asking for help, or just dismissing the whole thing by declaring that he has "problems"?

Of course I don't actually know, but considering his actions in previous races, I seriously doubt he was actually asking for help.

Sharing success and failures with guys like him makes racing online worth.

Agreed. I've had times like this too, and it gives me goosebumps when we can act like adults.

Next time take him out as a precautionary action

I suspect you're kidding, but if not, been there, done that, and nothing good ever comes from it.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

suspect you're kidding, but if not, been there, done that, and nothing good ever comes from it.

I'm actually not kidding. Rage or vengeance on track always leads to trouble. I don't mean that.
I mean now that you know he is being dirty and won't change it, setting him at the back and really out of the race will allow the rest of the field to have a good race.

When PD won't make a penalty system that works we have to police the servers our self.
The vast majority of contac9are mistakes, even if it feels dirty in the heat.of it a replay will often show it wasn't.
But when there's no doubt it's good if the drivers collectively acts as marshals

 

[Roggers]

Raced again later and was better but I pitted after Lap 7 (Mediums) and swapped to hards. Fueled up to about 60-65% and thought it was enough. Nope. Ran out of fuel on Lap 11. Literally coasted into pit lane. How are people fueling up? At least the drivers were good.

I just do the math on laps remaining. So lets say I start the race with 9 laps remaining and I pit on lap 7 of 13 then I do the math on laps remaining subtracted from laps to go and fuel to that many laps. Apparently there's a diamond that tells you what you need. I had no idea.
I also don't bother to fuel save b/c I'm an automatic on controller so it's go hard all the time. Probs losing some results because of that but honestly idc really

I hate having to work out the remain fuel required. Sometimes in my race I will fuel save depending on how quick the lobby is. If I’m keeping pace with the leaders I’ll just short shift and use mix 3 in the corners to save some fuel and then jump them at the pits. Trying to work out during the race if I have enough fuel before my pit stop is a nightmare.
As for refuelling I don’t trust that diamond marker. I’ve fuelled to the marker before and ending up on the last lap having to fuel save as I’ve used more than recommended. I’d recommend to over fuel by half a lap or a lap.

 

[TomBrady]

C for me. It's feels like more of a driving position than the cockpit view as you can actually see the front of your car.
None of the other views interest me that much. I guess never having had a mirror I can't actually say I am missing it...

What do you mean more of a driving position? Because it's certainly nowhere near as realistic as cockpit view.

With any cam other than cockpit, a closed cockpit prototype race car will have the same visibility as a go Kart. I don't think I need to explain how ridiculous that is.

Use what you want I guess but I just don't think anyone should lie to themselves about what is more realistic. Visibility is a huge factor in racing and the car you drive.

 

[TheWeapon874]

I'm actually not kidding. Rage or vengeance on track always leads to trouble. I don't mean that.
I mean now that you know he is being dirty and won't change it, setting him at the back and really out of the race will allow the rest of the field to have a good race.

When PD won't make a penalty system that works we have to police the servers our self.
The vast majority of contac9are mistakes, even if it feels dirty in the heat.of it a replay will often show it wasn't.
But when there's no doubt it's good if the drivers collectively acts as marshals

Yeah I'm with you here. I watched a guy in race B punt his way into second place behind me, and I suggested he clean up his act after the race (and after everyone calling him out for being dirty)....of course he suggested that the other people just need to 'be faster'. Next race he was 3rd on the grid, behind my friend (who I pre-warned)... the guy tried to punt him turn 1, but he broke early, then dispatched the guy into the sand so he couldn't ruin anyone else's race.

Some people don't learn like the rest of us do, and need to be put in their place on occasion....

 

[D_Dragline]

What do you mean more of a driving position? Because it's certainly nowhere near as realistic as cockpit view.

With any cam other than cockpit, a closed cockpit prototype race car will have the same visibility as a go Kart. I don't think I need to explain how ridiculous that is.

Use what you want I guess but I just don't think anyone should lie to themselves about what is more realistic. Visibility is a huge factor in racing and the car you drive.

It’s not that straightforward though. In a real car, you have a much wider field of view from the cockpit than is possible in a single screen sim. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that cockpit view in GT7 provides significantly less visibility than real life. It’s nice, and it’s immersive, but it’s not realistic.

I use roof cam (it’s definitively roof cam btw, not bonnet cam) because I find it gives me a truer “feel” of the natural field of view. It’s not an accurate representation, for sure, but it feels more natural in terms of visibility and surrounds than cockpit cam.

 

[Leon Kowalski]

Race B has been quite good to me this week. One win, several podiums, mostly clean racing with one egregious exception. Having a good qualifying time helps of course. I have never been ranked higher in qualifying in a Gr4 or Gr3 car in daily races. That d@mn Alfa just drives so well...😆 a PP correction is overdue, really.
Or what about bringing the Mercedes 190 Evo back, and maybe the touring car versions of the Opel Astra and the BMW M3 (they've all been in previous versions of GT, as far as I know), and together with the Alfa creating a seperate class of early 90's DTM (german touring car championship) cars. Would be great at the Nurb, in Spa and Brands Hatch etc.

Okay, back to topic. To not abuse Race B and inflating my DR, I'd like to try Race C. Although the sausages are killing me in qualifying. I cannot process how certain youtubers drive through the chicane mistake-free again and again, on exactly the same line for 10+ laps. And the qualifying depends (for me at least) also mostly of how I get through there. I only had one, yes, ONE decent quali lap with the 911 that was almost half a second faster than any other laps I have done, when I accidentally hit the chicane quick without spinning.😬

So, simple questions after all that babbling: Assuming to start somewhere mid-pack on the grid, which strategies worked for you guys? Hards or mediums first? Fighting hard for positions, or letting everyone drive their own pace? And: which cars are useable, apart from the Porsche?

Thanks in advance.😇

 

[ubistonk]

What do you mean more of a driving position? Because it's certainly nowhere near as realistic as cockpit view.

With any cam other than cockpit, a closed cockpit prototype race car will have the same visibility as a go Kart. I don't think I need to explain how ridiculous that is.

Use what you want I guess but I just don't think anyone should lie to themselves about what is more realistic. Visibility is a huge factor in racing and the car you drive.

I’m going to go one further and say that using anything other than cockpit cam is cheating. There, I said it. I can’t take it back now.
But I mean I use auto gears so what would I know?

What is it about the visibility in cockpit cam that people struggle with? Is it just the other cars around you when in traffic?

 

[Fezzik]

I’m going to go one further and say that using anything other than cockpit cam is cheating. There, I said it. I can’t take it back now.
But I mean I use auto gears so what would I know?

What is it about the visibility in cockpit cam that people struggle with? Is it just the other cars around you when in traffic?

Pretty much. I've been using cockpit view more offline, but only use chase or roof cam in Sport because it's safer - I can better see where the other cars are and so have less contact. It's not a speed thing, I'm equally slow in any of them.

 

[ubistonk]

Pretty much. I've been using cockpit view more offline, but only use chase or roof cam in Sport because it's safer - I can better see where the other cars are and so have less contact. It's not a speed thing, I'm equally slow in any of them.

Interesting. My PS5 is hooked up to my home cinema. I can clearly tell when I have another car along side me from their engine noise (how loud it is and the direction it’s coming from). So I almost never turn into anybody without realising they were there.
The helicopters overhead also sound fantastic out of the Dolby Atmos speakers 😀

 

[Fezzik]

Interesting. My PS5 is hooked up to my home cinema. I can clearly tell when I have another car along side me from their engine noise (how loud it is and the direction it’s coming from). So I almost never turn into anybody without realising they were there.
The helicopters overhead also sound fantastic out of the Dolby Atmos speakers 😀

I should probably use my headphones more (TV speakers are pretty useless).
Hopefully the game does get full VR support and then all these problems are solved, full-time cockpit view then.

 

[MOPARbarrett5]

Here's my finalized lap and tune for the Viper in Race A that is currently ranked 9th worldwide.

Different engine parts and a bit different suspension. I can maybe get a high 56.2 but I'm happy with this.
Also I tried a lot of other cars, the 2014 Corvette and 2019 Supra are the next fastest and I can see the Supra being faster than the Viper with the roulette weight reduction. Not far behind are the 1989 Corvette, any Subaru BRZ variant with the 2JZ engine swap, 2003 BMIW M3 (no engine swap), M4 Safety Car, Mazda RX8 (it is hard to control) and newer RX7, Honda S2000 and TVR Tuscan (I haven't tried the engine swap). Two okay cars I tried because I've not seen anyone else use them are the Hyundai Genesis and Toyota FT1, both are fine all around and where the FT1 can't be tuned it is easy to drive but hard to push. Two fun mid pack cars (results may vary) are the Jaguar E Type and Toyota 2000GT, both can go 140 mph on the straights but slide around the turns and have about the opposite attributes of the cars usually around them. Also I saw someone run mid pack in the 1929 Mercedes which I won't ever have unless PD makes the game far less grindy but it was cool to see it battling with a Silvia that's worth less than it's hood ornament.
Tomorrow I will try the Tuscan with the engine swap, various old muscle cars, and maybe other engine swapped cars. Also I will practice for a challenge idea I have involving the Viper that if it works well I will livestream.

 

[Talon16]

Here's my finalized lap and tune for the Viper in Race A that is currently ranked 9th worldwide.

snip

Nice lap. I did a couple races with the C7 yesterday with pretty good results (two wins in three races as I spun on one of them). A little harder to keep straight than the Viper but very manageable. I basically took the Viper tune and copied it over to the Vette, for all intents and purposes.

Also lowered my quali time to 56.819 (or something like that) which was 41st (?). Will probably do a few more runs of A before week's end to scratch the itch while ignore B & C this week.

 

[Trucker35]

Here's my finalized lap and tune for the Viper in Race A that is currently ranked 9th worldwide.

Different engine parts and a bit different suspension. I can maybe get a high 56.2 but I'm happy with this.
Also I tried a lot of other cars, the 2014 Corvette and 2019 Supra are the next fastest and I can see the Supra being faster than the Viper with the roulette weight reduction. Not far behind are the 1989 Corvette, any Subaru BRZ variant with the 2JZ engine swap, 2003 BMIW M3 (no engine swap), M4 Safety Car, Mazda RX8 (it is hard to control) and newer RX7, Honda S2000 and TVR Tuscan (I haven't tried the engine swap). Two okay cars I tried because I've not seen anyone else use them are the Hyundai Genesis and Toyota FT1, both are fine all around and where the FT1 can't be tuned it is easy to drive but hard to push. Two fun mid pack cars (results may vary) are the Jaguar E Type and Toyota 2000GT, both can go 140 mph on the straights but slide around the turns and have about the opposite attributes of the cars usually around them. Also I saw someone run mid pack in the 1929 Mercedes which I won't ever have unless PD makes the game far less grindy but it was cool to see it battling with a Silvia that's worth less than it's hood ornament.
Tomorrow I will try the Tuscan with the engine swap, various old muscle cars, and maybe other engine swapped cars. Also I will practice for a challenge idea I have involving the Viper that if it works well I will livestream.

Also the Toyota Crown is surprisingly agile for being a big sedan, the low HP setting works well with it's handling...

Race B has been quite good to me this week. One win, several podiums, mostly clean racing with one egregious exception. Having a good qualifying time helps of course. I have never been ranked higher in qualifying in a Gr4 or Gr3 car in daily races. That d@mn Alfa just drives so well...😆 a PP correction is overdue, really.
Or what about bringing the Mercedes 190 Evo back, and maybe the touring car versions of the Opel Astra and the BMW M3 (they've all been in previous versions of GT, as far as I know), and together with the Alfa creating a seperate class of early 90's DTM (german touring car championship) cars. Would be great at the Nurb, in Spa and Brands Hatch etc.

Okay, back to topic. To not abuse Race B and inflating my DR, I'd like to try Race C. Although the sausages are killing me in qualifying. I cannot process how certain youtubers drive through the chicane mistake-free again and again, on exactly the same line for 10+ laps. And the qualifying depends (for me at least) also mostly of how I get through there. I only had one, yes, ONE decent quali lap with the 911 that was almost half a second faster than any other laps I have done, when I accidentally hit the chicane quick without spinning.😬

So, simple questions after all that babbling: Assuming to start somewhere mid-pack on the grid, which strategies worked for you guys? Hards or mediums first? Fighting hard for positions, or letting everyone drive their own pace? And: which cars are useable, apart from the Porsche?

Thanks in advance.😇

The Nissan Skyline Silhouette does well and with it's down force I can do the chicane nearly flat out

 

[sturk0167]

PIT is actually an acronym for Precision Immobilization Technique.

Are you sure? I think the cops call it Pursuit Intervention Technique.

 

[Talon16]

Are you sure? I think the cops call it Pursuit Intervention Technique.

"The PIT (Precision Immobilization Technique) Maneuver is a technique used by law enforcement personnel to force a fleeing vehicle to abruptly turn 180 degrees, causing the vehicle to stall and stop."

Studying How to Maneuver Suspects to a Stop | Office of Justice Programs

www.ojp.gov

To-may-to/to-mo-to.

 

[sturk0167]

Just need to vent here. Just did two race b's. A driver pitted me on the hairpin before the long turn, on lap 1. He's been a thorn in my side before - not a clean racer. Starting next race, I chatted saying "You pitted me. Don't do it again." He said he was sorry. Then on the last lap of this second race, he did the exact same thing. Afterwards one guy called him dirty, and I said "Seriously?". He said something about going too fast. I said "Once is a mistake, twice is on purpose".

He said, and I quote: "I need help". smh.

I have a possible defense for the driver in question.
Without seeing the video replay, or knowing who he is, I am inclined to think he isn't trying to hit anybody. I have two reasons for thinking that.

Firstly, intentionally dirty drivers will almost always respond to criticism with aggressive talk, or blame the other person. This driver apologized.

Secondly, him saying "I need help", immediately made me think of my own struggles.
I literally played GT Sport for a couple of years before realizing that being in somebody's slipstream extended my braking distance.
I had a terrible time with penalties, because I kept running into other cars in the braking zones. I really felt bad for being "dirty". Sometimes I even unintentionally shoved my friends off the track. I would usually just park my car in the pits, or quit the race.
I "needed help". I eventually got help with that issue from the other people here, in this forum. 👍

So, now I have three ways of avoiding that problem. I'll either pull out of line before braking, start braking a little early, or brake at the normal spot, but lift all the way off the throttle about a second prior.

That's just my perception of the meaning behind his comment.

 

[zjn]

I'm actually not kidding. Rage or vengeance on track always leads to trouble. I don't mean that.
I mean now that you know he is being dirty and won't change it, setting him at the back and really out of the race will allow the rest of the field to have a good race.

When PD won't make a penalty system that works we have to police the servers our self.
The vast majority of contac9are mistakes, even if it feels dirty in the heat.of it a replay will often show it wasn't.
But when there's no doubt it's good if the drivers collectively acts as marshals

I'm not sure I agree with this. I'm wondering how many people would elevate themself to punisher just because they think someone is not acting properly.

And, sure, PD should do something about it. It's probably not that easy, but they should at least try.

I think no matter if you touch or get touched, this should get noticed. In the long run it will work and who acts properly and drives carefully will have a better rating than who is involved in contacts, that's it. This rating should be used for matchmaking.

I don't like the sportsmanship rate. I'd like to understand what % of the whole drivers sits at S. I think there is too many people there.

Let's call it with a different name and just measure how many times you make + take contact. This will be an objective measurement, while sportsmanship is not.

 

[OJBrit]

What do you mean more of a driving position? Because it's certainly nowhere near as realistic as cockpit view.

With any cam other than cockpit, a closed cockpit prototype race car will have the same visibility as a go Kart. I don't think I need to explain how ridiculous that is.

Use what you want I guess but I just don't think anyone should lie to themselves about what is more realistic. Visibility is a huge factor in racing and the car you drive.

As others have mentioned it's the camera position. You are hunkered down almost level with the steering wheel. It's like driving a pillbox. Whilst yes the bonnet cam is in an unnatural position it's more representative of the view I see out of my car. I can see the front of the car and where I'm putting it and not the steering wheel.

To-may-to/to-mo-to.

Both wrong. It's to-mah-toe

 

[TheOneDonJuan]

Interesting. My PS5 is hooked up to my home cinema. I can clearly tell when I have another car along side me from their engine noise (how loud it is and the direction it’s coming from). So I almost never turn into anybody without realising they were there.
The helicopters overhead also sound fantastic out of the Dolby Atmos speakers 😀

What receiver are you using? Is yours 9.2? Thinking about upgrading next year. I'm 7.1 at the moment.