GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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What receiver are you using? Is yours 9.2? Thinking about upgrading next year. I'm 7.1 at the moment.
At the risk of turning this into an av forums thread, it’s a Marantz SR-7011. I have a 5.2.4 set up, although it’s actually capable of 7.2.4 (or 11.2 in old money).

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Race B has been quite good to me this week. One win, several podiums, mostly clean racing with one egregious exception. Having a good qualifying time helps of course. I have never been ranked higher in qualifying in a Gr4 or Gr3 car in daily races. That d@mn Alfa just drives so well...😆 a PP correction is overdue, really.
Or what about bringing the Mercedes 190 Evo back, and maybe the touring car versions of the Opel Astra and the BMW M3 (they've all been in previous versions of GT, as far as I know), and together with the Alfa creating a seperate class of early 90's DTM (german touring car championship) cars. Would be great at the Nurb, in Spa and Brands Hatch etc.

Okay, back to topic. To not abuse Race B and inflating my DR, I'd like to try Race C. Although the sausages are killing me in qualifying. I cannot process how certain youtubers drive through the chicane mistake-free again and again, on exactly the same line for 10+ laps. And the qualifying depends (for me at least) also mostly of how I get through there. I only had one, yes, ONE decent quali lap with the 911 that was almost half a second faster than any other laps I have done, when I accidentally hit the chicane quick without spinning.😬

So, simple questions after all that babbling: Assuming to start somewhere mid-pack on the grid, which strategies worked for you guys? Hards or mediums first? Fighting hard for positions, or letting everyone drive their own pace? And: which cars are useable, apart from the Porsche?

Thanks in advance.😇
For me if my start position is anything lower than 3rd I'm starting the race on Hards and hopeful to make up the gap when I pit for Mediums half way through. If I'm starting up front I want to be on the best tire early to build the biggest gap I can. Unfortunately that's all theory as I've not been able to start any higher than 7th
 
As others have mentioned it's the camera position. You are hunkered down almost level with the steering wheel. It's like driving a pillbox. Whilst yes the bonnet cam is in an unnatural position it's more representative of the view I see out of my car. I can see the front of the car and where I'm putting it and not the steering wheel.

Both wrong. It's to-mah-toe
You can edit the height of the camera angle in cockpit view so that the steering wheel is lower down the screen and you can see more above it.
 
Race B is a ridiculous Alfa Cup.
As a no meta car driver, I have been the only no Alfa in server a few times.
More ridiculous however is how some players (Alfa) join together against the other cars, by ramming.
As it would be an Alfa vs others cars challenge.
Lost all motivation to race again. Well done PD. Well done for the bad penalty system too.
The dirty drivers thank you.



Race C is an almost ridiculous Porsche 911 Cup.
PD races settings brains might not know what are they doing.
Why not set tire wear in Daily B as well? Alfa eats everything? Just set more tire wear on it, to make them struggle from lap 5
and balance the things. They can get away in the first laps, but then, the others may recover to the end of the race.
Add variety and emotion PD, it is not hard.
However, there are more variety of cars. Usually, half 911 half others.
Almost lost all motivation to race again (due to penalty system). Well done PD. Well done for the bad penalty system.
The dirty drivers thank you PD. They know how and where to hit and ruin somebody's race.
 
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Race B has been quite good to me this week. One win, several podiums, mostly clean racing with one egregious exception. Having a good qualifying time helps of course. I have never been ranked higher in qualifying in a Gr4 or Gr3 car in daily races. That d@mn Alfa just drives so well...😆 a PP correction is overdue, really.
Or what about bringing the Mercedes 190 Evo back, and maybe the touring car versions of the Opel Astra and the BMW M3 (they've all been in previous versions of GT, as far as I know), and together with the Alfa creating a seperate class of early 90's DTM (german touring car championship) cars. Would be great at the Nurb, in Spa and Brands Hatch etc.

Okay, back to topic. To not abuse Race B and inflating my DR, I'd like to try Race C. Although the sausages are killing me in qualifying. I cannot process how certain youtubers drive through the chicane mistake-free again and again, on exactly the same line for 10+ laps. And the qualifying depends (for me at least) also mostly of how I get through there. I only had one, yes, ONE decent quali lap with the 911 that was almost half a second faster than any other laps I have done, when I accidentally hit the chicane quick without spinning.😬

So, simple questions after all that babbling: Assuming to start somewhere mid-pack on the grid, which strategies worked for you guys? Hards or mediums first? Fighting hard for positions, or letting everyone drive their own pace? And: which cars are useable, apart from the Porsche?

Thanks in advance.😇
For me if my start position is anything lower than 3rd I'm starting the race on Hards and hopeful to make up the gap when I pit for Mediums half way through. If I'm starting up front I want to be on the best tire early to build the biggest gap I can. Unfortunately that's all theory as I've not been able to start any higher than 7th
Leon, I’ve been doing 6 laps on hard and then 7 on mediums, driving all out and refueling when I pit. I’ve tried fuel saving, but I lose too many positions that way. It only takes an extra four seconds to refuel, which doesn’t amount to many positions if you time the stop right. For this reason, I’m considering starting on mediums to build more of a lead to account for my refuel time. I wasn’t able to race yesterday to test it and probably won’t be able to today either. But I’ll let you know.

As for the curbs, I try to go over both of them, but definitely the second one. Sometimes I don’t quite make the first one, and it’s unforgiving, so I go around it. But ideally I try to catch the right edge of the first sausage with the inside edge of my right tires as I accelerate around the corner. I like to imagine the curve of the sausage is guiding my car around, and although I know that’s not actually happening it is the image I try to envision. If you hit it right it aims you directly at the second sausage, which you can clip on the left edge with the inside edge of your left tires while accelerating. Start a little slower than you think you should and accelerate a little more than you think you should! When you hit it right it saves almost a second of time! (Ask me how I know…)
 
Race B has been quite good to me this week. One win, several podiums, mostly clean racing with one egregious exception. Having a good qualifying time helps of course. I have never been ranked higher in qualifying in a Gr4 or Gr3 car in daily races. That d@mn Alfa just drives so well...😆 a PP correction is overdue, really.
Or what about bringing the Mercedes 190 Evo back, and maybe the touring car versions of the Opel Astra and the BMW M3 (they've all been in previous versions of GT, as far as I know), and together with the Alfa creating a seperate class of early 90's DTM (german touring car championship) cars. Would be great at the Nurb, in Spa and Brands Hatch etc.
Id like to see PD bring back some classic touring cars/gr4 cars.
Ford Mondeo, Renault Laguna, Nissan Primera, Volvo 850 etc… so many good cars from that era. Be good to have a historic touring car daily race.
Okay, back to topic. To not abuse Race B and inflating my DR, I'd like to try Race C. Although the sausages are killing me in qualifying. I cannot process how certain youtubers drive through the chicane mistake-free again and again, on exactly the same line for 10+ laps. And the qualifying depends (for me at least) also mostly of how I get through there. I only had one, yes, ONE decent quali lap with the 911 that was almost half a second faster than any other laps I have done, when I accidentally hit the chicane quick without spinning.😬

So, simple questions after all that babbling: Assuming to start somewhere mid-pack on the grid, which strategies worked for you guys? Hards or mediums first? Fighting hard for positions, or letting everyone drive their own pace? And: which cars are useable, apart from the Porsche?

Thanks in advance.😇
As for Daily C, I stick to the 7 hard 6 medium strat (or 8h/5m) no matter what starting position. I find the hards are too slow in the later stages of the race. As for the race, depending on your pace and how far behind the the leaders you are you can get away with shirt shifting and then using mix 2/3/4 through sector 2, then mix 1 for the rest. Saving fuel in the first stint if possible is advisable as you can save time in the pits and jump cars or just go flat out in both stints. 2 stint all depends if you had to refuel or not in the pits. If you didn’t need to refuel you might have to do some fuel saving, but if you refuelled just go flat out, but make sure to over fuel a little as i find I start to run out on the last lap.
Id say they is a few strategies you can do on this race.
 
You know how they warn you about driving while taking some types of medication? Last night I couldn't sleep, so I took a valium (FYI, I take maybe two in a year, so don't worry about me). When I got up this morning, I thought I was feeling fine, so I did this race - here's where I started:

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And... here's where I finished:
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And get this - I didn't go off track or spin out even once. I was just that bad. So kids, important safety tip. Don't do drugs. ;p

PS: I have to blame it on the meds, because I couldn't possibly be that bad, right? :lol:
PPS: There's nothing wrong with the car - oil's fine, etc.
 
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using anything other than cockpit cam is cheating.
That's like saying using any other car than X is cheating. The other views are in game as is, you don't have to use a cheat code to get them.
The immersion is greater in cockpit and for me that has been driving cars for over 40 years I turn in and view the road much more natural.
But the situational awareness in cockpit is so much worse. In fact, if you had that limited vision in a real car you probably wouldn't have a license due to medical reasons.
Yes, audio cues can help lighten the drawbacks of inferior vision but it's only lightened, not cured.

But as had been said, if there's full VR support that would mean cockpit forever. Except for those who gets motion sick or doesn't want to pay as much as the PS5 costs for a VR
 
That's like saying using any other car than X is cheating. The other views are in game as is, you don't have to use a cheat code to get them.
The immersion is greater in cockpit and for me that has been driving cars for over 40 years I turn in and view the road much more natural.
But the situational awareness in cockpit is so much worse. In fact, if you had that limited vision in a real car you probably wouldn't have a license due to medical reasons.
Yes, audio cues can help lighten the drawbacks of inferior vision but it's only lightened, not cured.

But as had been said, if there's full VR support that would mean cockpit forever. Except for those who gets motion sick or doesn't want to pay as much as the PS5 costs for a VR
It was just banter, hence why I went on to make the point that I use auto gears which others could also construe as cheating 😁
 
You know how they warn you about driving while taking some types of medication? Last night I couldn't sleep, so I took a valium (FYI, I take maybe two in a year, so don't worry about me). When I got up this morning, I thought I was feeling fine, so I did this race - here's where I started:

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And... here's where I finished:
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And get this - I didn't go off track or spin out even once. I was just that bad. So kids, important safety tip. Don't do drugs. ;p

PS: I have to blame it on the meds, because I couldn't possibly be that bad, right? :lol:
PPS: There's nothing wrong with the car - oil's fine, etc.

I've had a completely drug-free race B today where I started on pole and finished P12. Well, at least I was drug-free myself. About some of the other drivers who interpreted the race as destruction derby and punted me into oblivion, I'm not so sure... 😆
 
I've had a completely drug-free race B today where I started on pole and finished P12. Well, at least I was drug-free myself. About some of the other drivers who interpreted the race as destruction derby and punted me into oblivion, I'm not so sure... 😆
It's a track where you can't really overtake, especially if all the cars are the same and the drivers are at the similar level. So most of the guys see the opportunity to gently nudge you on the grass or the gravel, even if you have the best race pace, it's not a guarantee. I also started from pole last night, and I held my first place for one whole lap, and then in the first corner I found myself in the gravel, by the guy who was 0.8 behind on the straight...
 
It's a track where you can't really overtake (...)

Actually I think you CAN overtake: Either at T1, if you have a good slipstream run, or in the final hairpin, if you took the long left hander better than the driver in front of you.

But I get what you mean, because I experienced it myself a lot: people are overtaking anyway even in places or situations where actually you can't.
 
Heartbreaking 15 minutes for me 😭💔

Race 1 - Autopolis. Pole position with a faster driver behind me all race. Was quite clean and I was defending fairly and he was attacking cleanly.

Half way through final lap he accidentally taps my side/ bumper in a corner, my car slides and I lose grip as I touch the grass... Finish P8 😭

Race 2 - Dragon Trail, straight after Race 1. I put in a few qualy laps before the race and manage pole again! Lap 1, turn 1 I'm absolutely annihilated into the shadow realm and rage quit within 10 seconds of race start 💩😭🤐

This is Race 1, which I enjoyed until the knife to my heart...

 

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I have to agree that while I've enjoyed a few races in daily race b, the majority of them have been crap (can I say "crap" here?). And I agree that a lot of it is because of everyone using the same car, so there aren't differences in cornering or acceleration or whatever. After how great last week's "b" was, this is such a letdown.

And although my evidence is anecdotal, my guess is that a lot fewer people are running the race, because of the number of "A" and "A+" drivers that end up in the same race as me, a lowly "B" with a long way to go to reach "A".

And I was so happy to finally get back to B/S, only to have some people run me off the track multiple times, and I'm the one who gets dropped back to B/A. So I can't even enjoy having a B/S which is, of course (you knew I had to go there) total BS.
 
I have to agree that while I've enjoyed a few races in daily race b, the majority of them have been crap (can I say "crap" here?). And I agree that a lot of it is because of everyone using the same car, so there aren't differences in cornering or acceleration or whatever. After how great last week's "b" was, this is such a letdown.

And although my evidence is anecdotal, my guess is that a lot fewer people are running the race, because of the number of "A" and "A+" drivers that end up in the same race as me, a lowly "B" with a long way to go to reach "A".

And I was so happy to finally get back to B/S, only to have some people run me off the track multiple times, and I'm the one who gets dropped back to B/A. So I can't even enjoy having a B/S which is, of course (you knew I had to go there) total BS.
When are you gonna be racing again? If I'm available, I'll back you up. 👍
 
When are you gonna be racing again? If I'm available, I'll back you up. 👍
Thanks for the offer, but I don't actually enjoy that - if I can't do it myself, then it's not satisfying. But thanks for offering - that's really cool!
 
i set a quali time around 12.3 in Race B. Rammers ruined my races around 15 times (because of them, i lost A/S to B/S). Especially in the first lap, first corner. So i made some strategy for them. I brake very late, get the apex(the rammers can't reach) and accelerate very late, cover the 2nd place guys racing line so the 2nd place guy is a sitting duck, cover the inside for a small right hander and after 3rd corner i start to push really hard to make some distance. All day i didn't lose any positions, race wins only. A/S now and A rank is half full to A+ .
 
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Just continuing with Daily A for the time being. Mostly using the Viper with some Vette sprinkled in. Tried the '15 Mustang GT and was about 2.5s slower with that than the Viper. Also bought that GT500 or whatever it's call to try, only to realize after buying a bunch of parts you can't get the HP down to the max limit. Sonuva!

Had some decent races; despite there being no DR/SR people have been very clean.

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This Viper is going to become my winningest car... if it hasn't already. :D Which, is fine by me because she's dead sexy!

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I have so much trouble with the last hairpin at Autopolis. I'm not sure what exactly I should be trying to do. I almost always lose time to other people here, and it's frustrating because I feel good about everything else (even if I don't always execute). Anyone got any tips? (Other than turn off assists, please, let's not go there.)

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I have so much trouble with the last hairpin at Autopolis. I'm not sure what exactly I should be trying to do. I almost always lose time to other people here, and it's frustrating because I feel good about everything else (even if I don't always execute). Anyone got any tips? (Other than turn off assists, please, let's not go there.)

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Maybe check out some of the top times for qualifying, watch their lap, and see what they're doing.
 
Or what about bringing the Mercedes 190 Evo back, and maybe the touring car versions of the Opel Astra and the BMW M3 (they've all been in previous versions of GT, as far as I know), and together with the Alfa creating a seperate class of early 90's DTM (german touring car championship) cars. Would be great at the Nurb, in Spa and Brands Hatch etc.
Agree. Assetto Corsa has the DTM Alfa, the Merc 190, and the M3. You can race all three in the same race with the AI at Spa or the Nurb. Some of the best Sim racing I’ve done, especially with an H-pattern shifter!
 
I have so much trouble with the last hairpin at Autopolis. I'm not sure what exactly I should be trying to do. I almost always lose time to other people here, and it's frustrating because I feel good about everything else (even if I don't always execute). Anyone got any tips? (Other than turn off assists, please, let's not go there.)

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As far as I can see from the picture you are too close to the curb. Turn in a smidge later for a later apex.
 
I have so much trouble with the last hairpin at Autopolis. I'm not sure what exactly I should be trying to do. I almost always lose time to other people here, and it's frustrating because I feel good about everything else (even if I don't always execute). Anyone got any tips? (Other than turn off assists, please, let's not go there.)

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later apex, more steering and full throttle. Car is very stable while accelerating even around 120 degree steering angle with full throttle barely oversteers
 
As Daily B seems to be a boring one make Alfa 155 fest, I decided to focus on Daily race A and Daily race C.

Daily Race A, I think I got my best quali time down to a 57.2-3 with both the GR Supra 19' and Viper GTS 02'. So I decided to do one race each. Quite lonely races except for first 1-2 laps. With the GR Supra started P3 in one race, finished P3. Then with the Viper started P4 and finished P3 in the other race.

Daily C I have only done qualifying in so far, since I cannot seem to get down a good enough time, to avoid starting from the back. 1.30.946 is just not fast enough for a high A DR driver. I must have tried like 8 different cars, and with almost every one of them I get comfortably into low 1.31s, but just cannot find any more pace, no matter how hard I try 😮‍💨 Just not my track I guess? Also I notice all the time in these dailies that hotlapping is not my cup of tea. But the more limited time gtws style 10 min quali always seems to work better for me.🤔

So far I like the RS01 and GTR the most in daily c. Ferrari felt surprisingly good, but inconsistent though. Might give the Mazda a go as well. Before trying a final quali session with the GTR. And then probably just doing one race, no matter the quali time. And try to work myself up the pack then.
 
I entered my first C race of the day. It was me in a Mustang and a WRX and the rest were 911s. I started 14th and finished 7th.
Some idiot said I shouldn't enter if I'm not in a Porsche, because he's not used to the Ford's braking points. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I did my first race C yesterday, and probably my last one for this week. Man, do I stink.😬

I know that I'm not that great in Gr3, but here I totally embarrassed myself. It doesn't look too bad at first, I'm P6 on the starting grid in a field of many B/S drivers, but five or six A/S and A/A too. Okay, that's due to my one good quali lap with the 911 (out of twenty at least).
But I start with the Corvette, because it was the only car in testing that didn't always try to kill me in the chicane when testing different cars. And for the first race C I need a car that I can trust. Right?

Wrong.

First of all, even with the rather tame Corvette, I never get a feel for this track. I never get the timing consistently right in any sector, and I always have the feeling that I'm on the edge, close to spinning or overshooting or missing the next turn. And second, the Corvette seems very slow, but maybe that's also just me. And so, despite driving rather cautiously, I make a lot of mistakes.

So, I get overtaken a lot. Excatly: by everyone. I'm thinking "well, I'm on hard tyres, most of them are on mediums".

Most of them were not.

And although I give space to everyone, they all seem to think that it's best to push me wide in the hairpin for good measure. One even tries to swipe me onto the grass on the back straight, despite having a great run on me which would have him easily pass me before the hairpin (and I gave space).

In the end I'm dead last. My desperate attempt to hold at least P16 behind me and maybe get one or two positions back fails miserably because my front tyres are completely dead even before the end of lap 12 (less than six laps of bad driving obliterated them). And nobody does me the favour of crashing out or taking a penalty for not using both tyre compounds.

Did I mention that I stink? Yeah, think so. 😆

Well, apparently that's not my combo. To keep me from drowning my desperation in a bucket of beer, I go back to a consolation race B. Pole, CRB, win. Seems like a total different game for me.🥳
 
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