GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[bone_tone]

The Jag will do 2h/8m if you're smooth on tyres.

Fields at Bathurst are starting to gravitate towards only a few cars; Mostly GT-R and AMG in my races, but the Vantage, Mustang, Jag and Lexus have all been at the pointy end as well.

Unfortunately there was an A grade troll from Japan in the lobbies last night stinking it up with all kinds of filthy driving. If I get a chance later I'll post some video so everyone on the Asia servers is aware to avoid (or take pre-emptive action against) him.

I'm not too smooth on tyres, and can only manage 4h/6m in the Jag, but the well worn softs do still have a lot more grip than partly worn hards - I've been catching and passing people on the last lap when they're running hards.

Finished 3rd in every race (B/S level), and have only seen the AMG winning so far. I've never driven the AMG, perhaps I should try it out.

 

[Monkey Man]

The Ms seem to last quite a bit, what's the reason for a 5/5 strategy?

I assumed your 3/7, 4/6 statement was putting the RM tyres first in the "equation".

IOW, 3 and 4 laps on meds respectively. I therefore pointed out that you can go 5 (or more, depending on driving style and car) on them no problem.

 

[Mercia]

Finished 3rd in every race (B/S level), and have only seen the AMG winning so far. I've never driven the AMG, perhaps I should try it out.

It's quick I just knocked a couple of tenths of my GTR qualy lap and it was far from a perfect run but it does feel clunky up on the mountain so I don't know if I'll be able to find consistency with it.

The Lancer and the Corvette are also on my list to run today I've heard good things about both.

the WRX is to be avoided though, the pure pace is just not there.

 

[bone_tone]

It's quick I just knocked a couple of tenths of my GTR qualy lap and it was far from a perfect run but it does feel clunky up on the mountain so I don't know if I'll be able to find consistency with it.

The Lancer and the Corvette are also on my list to run today I've heard good things about both.

the WRX is to be avoided though, the pure pace is just not there.

Yes, a Lancer passed me yesterday with good pace, although he was on meds while I had started on hards. He had pulled out a 5 second gap, but then he really struggled on his last lap as the hards gave up, and I caught and passed him!

 

[Jack_10_9_8_7]

So after some frustrations yesterday I bagged my 2nd sport win in about my 40th race and am approaching DR.B. As a few people mentioned this has the unfortunate side effect of encountering more B/B B/Cish drivers. I’m amazed how many people feel the need to side swipe once their pride is hurt. With the strict track limits at WG this is doubly dangerous but only contact from behind seems to be punished. This morning I managed to duck through carnage from p10 to p3 on lap 1 but slipped down to 11th with people barging their way back through, and a few fair contests were ended by either car getting 0.5/1s pens whilst going 2 abreast.

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

So after some frustrations yesterday I bagged my 2nd sport win in about my 40th race and am approaching DR.B.

Congratulations! What a good feeling.

 

[Mercia]

Anyone else notice a sound glitch sometimes if there's a crash at a certain part of the track every time you go back past it you hear the crash sound effects again even if you're on your own?

PS5 here gives me a jump occasionally.

 

[Fezzik]

So after some frustrations yesterday I bagged my 2nd sport win in about my 40th race and am approaching DR.B. As a few people mentioned this has the unfortunate side effect of encountering more B/B B/Cish drivers. I’m amazed how many people feel the need to side swipe once their pride is hurt. With the strict track limits at WG this is doubly dangerous but only contact from behind seems to be punished. This morning I managed to duck through carnage from p10 to p3 on lap 1 but slipped down to 11th with people barging their way back through, and a few fair contests were ended by either car getting 0.5/1s pens whilst going 2 abreast.

Getting your SR up to S does make a bit of difference in the DR B & C ranks, it seems to weed out some of the maniacs (a few will always slip through). Hope you make it up to B, we may see each other on track - don't encounter many GTP-ers, mostly too fast.

 

[Jack_10_9_8_7]

Getting your SR up to S does make a bit of difference in the DR B & C ranks, it seems to weed out some of the maniacs (a few will always slip through). Hope you make it up to B, we may see each other on track - don't encounter many GTP-ers, mostly too fast.

Thanks, I shot quickly to C/S with consistent top 5s but getting to B/S is a step up. I’ll look out for GTP members as there seems a good approach to sport mode races here.

 

[Dairyworker]

Two race C yesterday in the vette. Car feels good but i clearly am not good with adapting with tire wear. Both my races went badly, all my own fault though. Competitors were clean as far as i could tell.



Hope to get some more races in today. I have a lot of learning to do with gr3 and tire wear. One of my favorite tracks seems a good place to do it.....

 

[Bullwinkle]

I want to like Watkins Glen. I want to be good on it. But I just can't get the logic of the track into my blood. Something just doesn't click with me. Been working on my qualifying lap for quite a while, and I'm still 2 seconds behind my (fast-but-not-aliens) friends, at 1:56:2xx. I did notice it helps to go easy on the brakes, seems I rarely if ever need to go 100% on them.

There is a lot of flow to this track, so as you say, trail braking is really useful. Also learning the last turn, turn 1 and the bus stop is critical. So much time to be gained in those straights if you get a good exit, and learning the limits of your car on the chicane is really challenging but a huge time saver. Good luck!

 

[Roggers]

I want to like Watkins Glen. I want to be good on it. But I just can't get the logic of the track into my blood. Something just doesn't click with me. Been working on my qualifying lap for quite a while, and I'm still 2 seconds behind my (fast-but-not-aliens) friends, at 1:56:2xx. I did notice it helps to go easy on the brakes, seems I rarely if ever need to go 100% on them.

Watkins Glen is all about smooth and fast lines.
T1 - exit speed is key as you can gain or lose a lot of time in the next 3 corners and down the straight.
Bus Stop - I find slow in and fast out works well here.
Long right, left & right - after the bus stop these corners you need to get on the throttle early. Again get the speed down quickly then power out
Final sector - again all about trying to carry as much speed as possible.

I did this lap. Not the fastest pit there but might help you.

The Jag will do 2h/8m if you're smooth on tyres.

Fields at Bathurst are starting to gravitate towards only a few cars; Mostly GT-R and AMG in my races, but the Vantage, Mustang, Jag and Lexus have all been at the pointy end as well.

Unfortunately there was an A grade troll from Japan in the lobbies last night stinking it up with all kinds of filthy driving. If I get a chance later I'll post some video so everyone on the Asia servers is aware to avoid (or take pre-emptive action against) him.

Yeah I’ve notice it’s just GTR mainly now but that as I’m getting higher up on the DR ladder.
First time around I did this race in the Z4 and it was great. One thing I have noticed about Bathurst is I don’t think it’s all about top speed. Yes has 2 longish straights but ive found a few other cars can do similar lap times and these cars are all gaining the time back up in the mountains.

 

[OJBrit]

Well. After having viewed the Replay I changed my mind.
I wasn't in his way on lap 6, he kept his foot down and hit me trying to take me out.
And the final incident was dirty as well
So if I see you again you are on my punt at sight list.....

To be fair the Cutting is not usually a place to overtake especially around the outside. So whilst they may have been dirty, backing out and getting them later on would have been the better option.

So proud, but I'm firing that guy in my crew who's clapping.

It's obviously a sarcastic clap.

 

[zjn]

The last 2 weeks of demolition derby dropped me into high D coming from high C
I did couple of race B still being associated with C lobbies.

At the end of the day I don't care too much about this rating, when I'm able to lap with consistency and without beging punted I'm in the top half.
Problem is.... this combo happen to few times....
I have to work on the things I can manage and improve my ability to stay out of troubles and don't do dummy mistakes

 

[benjoi84]

The Ms seem to last quite a bit, what's the reason for a 5/5 strategy?

I personally like 5/5 because I'm reasonably quick on Hards, and terrible at tyre management. I fear that moment after 6 laps on Mediums where somewhere in the middle of the lap the grip totally gives way in one wheel and I feel stranded and helpless out on a mountain in Australia.

 

[D_Dragline]

Watkins Glen is all about smooth and fast lines.
T1 - exit speed is key as you can gain or lose a lot of time in the next 3 corners and down the straight.
Bus Stop - I find slow in and fast out works well here.
Long right, left & right - after the bus stop these corners you need to get on the throttle early. Again get the speed down quickly then power out
Final sector - again all about trying to carry as much speed as possible.

I did this lap. Not the fastest pit there but might help you.




Yeah I’ve notice it’s just GTR mainly now but that as I’m getting higher up on the DR ladder.
First time around I did this race in the Z4 and it was great. One thing I have noticed about Bathurst is I don’t think it’s all about top speed. Yes has 2 longish straights but ive found a few other cars can do similar lap times and these cars are all gaining the time back up in the mountains.

In- race the only overtaking spots are at the end of consecutive long straights, so while some cars can get over the mountain faster, the ones with the longest legs will always get past them before you start climbing again.

If you want to test it, try the Beetle. It’s great over the mountain but gets absolutely swamped in a straight line.

 

[Childe Roland]

Anyone else notice a sound glitch sometimes if there's a crash at a certain part of the track every time you go back past it you hear the crash sound effects again even if you're on your own?

PS5 here gives me a jump occasionally.

Happens a lot and every time I had to check in the mirror if theres some kamikaze on Banzai mode against the wall


Had a blast last night in daily C until something weird happened.

Every now and then I see some A or B SR rated driver is matched in "clean" lobbies but yesterday was the first time I see a C driver mixed up with an S field.

Result? The mountain sector on first lap became instantly a pinball machine with cars all over the place.

Come on PD, it shouldnt be that difficult to avoid this things.
Whats the pourpose of having a rating in sportmanship if this things can happen?

 

[Bullwinkle]

Lordy, in two days of Race B with several CRBs, one early quit dropped my SR to A?! What are PD’s priorities for these races?! It’s clearly not actual sportsmanship . . .

@flimmelblitz I forgot to add, for Watkins Glen notice that there are no 90 degree turns, they’re all either acute or obtuse angles. Once I was able to see this correctly I was able to shave a lot of time off.

 

[Sarajevo89]

It seems dying, deathbed medium tyres are better than fresh new hards, talking about Bathurst. That's why I'm on 7/3 strat, not sure if it's optimal but it seems best. Hards suck so much.

 

[bone_tone]

At last, got a win at Bathurst today, after P1 and P2 managed to take one another out at T1 - my first win in a B or C race in GT7! Had a few wins in some of the odd Race As - Minis at Alsace, Viper on Suzuka East, and thought I was never going to get there on B or C.

P2 pushed me from a couple of seconds back the whole race, and he finished 27 seconds ahead of P3!

 

[diablopug]

Just had a few races in B. Some good and some bad. Plenty of Dirty drivers sending me out with dive bombing 😡 but managed to crawl back to some decent places from the back.
But just Had a phenomenal race. Just got held up a bit at the start, maybe might have caught 1st place up. But who knows, probably not 😂

 

[RacingGrandpa]

To be fair the Cutting is not usually a place to overtake especially around the outside. So whilst they may have been dirty, backing out and getting them later on would have been the better option.

It's obviously a sarcastic clap.

Well. I hadn't seen the replay so didn't know he did that on purpose. By the time he hit me in the cutting I was at least 75% ahead and expected him to be smart. I should have backed out yes, but hindsight is 20/20.
I brought that last incident on myself.

 

[deviln3]

Man, difference between DR A and B is night and day . In one you're top 3 all the time, battling for wins and in the other you're clawing yourself into top 10 kicking and screaming. You think you got solid quali time, oh here, take this starting P13 please.

Drop down to C or D, and you're almost lapping the last few cars. 😆

 

[hollowkatt]

had a few more races today that ended on lap 1 before half way. decided to see what being pole sitter would do instead. So set a 1:55:xx at Watkins Glen with the Porsche (love that little car. Isn't the fastest on the straights but man does it change direction nicely) for pole.
Ran away from the field from T1, finished with a 1.9 second gap because I took the last lap easier than the rest, didn't want to bottle it. Never challenged, rating on second account is now D/S.

 

[JulioCSF]

Finally

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

First up, 19 seconds showing how people can respect each other and still swap positions twice. We both bungled coming out of "The Boot", and I had to make a quick decision whether to pass on the inside, or just hold back. My lack of a decision was a decision in itself, and I overtook on the inside. He came right back and overtook me in a classic move. And I did NOT pit him in the last corner, because, come on, this is how racing is supposed to look (albeit with a little more skill).


Now, a question for you guys, about Watkins Glen. I noticed something on Monday and just figured it would change over the coming days, but so far I keep seeing the same thing.

I started P5, with lots of people with QTs close to mine:

My lap times sucked. At least, it sure seems that way to me:

Yet the gaps in the final times are reasonably close to what you might expect:

And this seems to happen fairly regularly this week. So my question is: Is it just that everyone finds doing the race on this course that much harder than qualifying? Or is something else going on here? I mean, with my lap times, I'd expect to be way further behind at the end. Yet this result has been fairly consistent for me, this week. Admittedly I've only done 10 races this week, so maybe the sample size is too small to draw any conclusions.

Ideas?

 

[Tommy_D]

I tried race C last night. Had no time to qualify so I had no clue what to expect. Ended up being lapped by the leader, struck the walls all over the mountain top and netting a 6 second penalty on one lap alone... It was a terrible showing. I think that one race alone knocked me from DR:C to DR: D. Pretty pathetic. But I did much better at Watkins Glen. Ran 1:55's in qualifying in the Alfa and pushed me in the DR:B/C races. Managed to be in 3rd place on the last lap only to have the wall of the chicane jump out at me and smash me down in to 10th place. So that sucked.

First up, 19 seconds showing how people can respect each other and still swap positions twice. We both bungled coming out of "The Boot", and I had to make a quick decision whether to pass on the inside, or just hold back. My lack of a decision was a decision in itself, and I overtook on the inside. He came right back and overtook me in a classic move. And I did NOT pit him in the last corner, because, come on, this is how racing is supposed to look (albeit with a little more skill).


Now, a question for you guys, about Watkins Glen. I noticed something on Monday and just figured it would change over the coming days, but so far I keep seeing the same thing.

I started P5, with lots of people with QTs close to mine:
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My lap times sucked. At least, it sure seems that way to me:
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Yet the gaps in the final times are reasonably close to what you might expect:
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And this seems to happen fairly regularly this week. So my question is: Is it just that everyone finds doing the race on this course that much harder than qualifying? Or is something else going on here? I mean, with my lap times, I'd expect to be way further behind at the end. Yet this result has been fairly consistent for me, this week. Admittedly I've only done 10 races this week, so maybe the sample size is too small to draw any conclusions.

Ideas?

I used to think the driving physics changed between qualifying and the actual race as I would constantly slide off the track on a turn that I thought I had down. But I've learned its just nerves and not being able to hit all your lines perfectly when in a real race. You end up late braking so you dont get rear ended by people behind you, you can't set up your entry and exit points correctly, your braking zones get a little off and it leads to slower lap times for everyone. I've found I'm a second or 2 slower per lap if I'm in traffic. If I somehow get in to the lead with a bit of a gap, I can race my own race and get much closer to my qualifying times.

 

[Mercia]

My Italian friend here was absolutely livid about this move, thoughts?



I have a couple:

1) I got the jump off the start and it was a perfectly legitimate pass, though would be useful to know why it wasn't if you disagree?

2) This guy put me in the gravel in the previous race and while this wasn't a revenge move at all, I was not going to be feeling guilty had it not come off.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

I used to think the driving physics changed between qualifying and the actual race as I would constantly slide off the track on a turn that I thought I had down. But I've learned its just nerves and not being able to hit all your lines perfectly when in a real race. You end up late braking so you dont get rear ended by people behind you, you can't set up your entry and exit points correctly, your braking zones get a little off and it leads to slower lap times for everyone. I've found I'm a second or 2 slower per lap if I'm in traffic. If I somehow get in to the lead with a bit of a gap, I can race my own race and get much closer to my qualifying times.

They do change. Tyre temperature, fuel weight and slipstream all affect your driving

 

[Tommy_D]

They do change. Tyre temperature, fuel weight and slipstream all affect your driving

So, I should go into my races knowing that lap 1 should not be done at 100% since my tires are cold and my car is fat with fuel? Probably a good idea now that I think about it. I don't seem to have these problems with the regular games circuit races against the AI, at least not to the extent I notice on the Sport Daily races.