GrumpyOldMan
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It was calculated back in the days of GT Sport, when the web interface was a lot more open with its data. Can't remember who did it, but it was probably @Sven Jurgens.
And I think there's a minimum threshold (probably one point) that you will lose to a driver ahead of you (or gain from one behind you) as well, but I don't recall.
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I got off work this morning and pulled a 30 min qualifying... no progress. Then I joined a race and lap 2 of practice I pull a 1.53.180! A full .7 faster than what I set on Wednesday! I knew it was there watching my Delta change I could see I had .2 here and .3 there to pickup I just couldn't string it together.
So the race starts and I'm P3 in front of a bunch of DR As. I get finishes in 3rd, 5th and 6th! However, having just got off work I have had a few adult beverages while I was driving and I think I'll call it quits for the morning. Here is my current progress:
So the race starts and I'm P3 in front of a bunch of DR As. I get finishes in 3rd, 5th and 6th! However, having just got off work I have had a few adult beverages while I was driving and I think I'll call it quits for the morning. Here is my current progress:
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Finally had some time to play today as it was a hectic week at work... Put some laps in and managed a qualy time of 1:53 flat - btw @Leon Kowalski seems you and I are destined to challenge/ improve each other 🙂🤣
Started P5 and was up to P2 half way through lap 2 but lost a lot of time behind a very dirty driver with 7 seconds of penalties to serve...
P3 caught up to me because of him but the weirdest thing happened... I lost ALL feedback on the G29 during the race! Had no resistance at all out of the blue?! Had to really concentrate to not screw up and lost a lot of time because of it!
Managed a P3 finish as I chose to let guy behind me past to avoid losing more time. As soon as the race ended, wheel came back to life!
Ever happen to anyone else?
Started P5 and was up to P2 half way through lap 2 but lost a lot of time behind a very dirty driver with 7 seconds of penalties to serve...
P3 caught up to me because of him but the weirdest thing happened... I lost ALL feedback on the G29 during the race! Had no resistance at all out of the blue?! Had to really concentrate to not screw up and lost a lot of time because of it!
Managed a P3 finish as I chose to let guy behind me past to avoid losing more time. As soon as the race ended, wheel came back to life!
Ever happen to anyone else?
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Challenge accepted!🤣🥳
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Big fan of the using Spoilers idea. 👍
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Here are the final two races from Wednesday. I had raced more or less the same lobbie for 2 races before this and there was a lot of pushing and shoving, arguing in chat after race.....
I got a bit agitated and gave back what was given so to say:
So then I go into another race and I am almost instantly rewarded with my Karma.
So the lesson here is; Even when they deserve a little dirt thrown in their face, it always comes back at you.
I got a bit agitated and gave back what was given so to say:
So then I go into another race and I am almost instantly rewarded with my Karma.
So the lesson here is; Even when they deserve a little dirt thrown in their face, it always comes back at you.
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I'm going to have to remember that the next time I see the guy who weaved all the way up Mountain Straight this afternoon preventing me from executing the stellar run I had out of Hell Corner, which put me in the path of a guy who doesn't have the best car control which put me into the wall, none of which would have happened if that jackalope hadn't been swerving all over the place.
Oh well, ruined a great race where I'd had fastest lap and my pit strategy was starting to pay off. Next time I'll just let him drift across my bumper and if he happens to spin due to that I'll light a candle and say a prayer.
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Been busy this week and not had chance to jump onto Daily C, and finally did today…… and well, what a disaster! Obviously picked the wrong night to race.
1st race. All started ok and everyone got through the first few corners ok and then the bashing and diving for position started. So I know full well once you get in to the mountain pulling an overtake is 99% of the time not going to come off. The cars behind me on mediums (me on hards) decide as they have the better grip they can lunge into a corner. Managed to slam the door shut until lap 2 after the long straight some decided they didn’t like me overtaking and pushed me wide to which I touch the grass spin and take my self and luckily the took out the person who pushed me wide into the barriers. Finished P12
Race 2 was even worst. Again we all get through the first few corners and one car got all out of shape and was pin-balling off all the walls which caused people again to try overtakes. This time I make it through the carnage and in P3 with clear track, but someone clearly didn’t like my overtake so they punted me off after the long straight. Now in P9 the pin-balling effect happened again, and I get a great exit and heading down the straight I get side by side. Two car ahead had penalties had pulled to the right and as myself and the other person head down (me on the left the other person on right) the other driver decided to avoid the penalty cars, they are just going to hit the left button and take me out to avoid the slow car. Finished P9 (only due to most quitting)
Race 3 I finally found some clear track and a great race. Finished P4 with some great fair clean battles.
1st race. All started ok and everyone got through the first few corners ok and then the bashing and diving for position started. So I know full well once you get in to the mountain pulling an overtake is 99% of the time not going to come off. The cars behind me on mediums (me on hards) decide as they have the better grip they can lunge into a corner. Managed to slam the door shut until lap 2 after the long straight some decided they didn’t like me overtaking and pushed me wide to which I touch the grass spin and take my self and luckily the took out the person who pushed me wide into the barriers. Finished P12
Race 2 was even worst. Again we all get through the first few corners and one car got all out of shape and was pin-balling off all the walls which caused people again to try overtakes. This time I make it through the carnage and in P3 with clear track, but someone clearly didn’t like my overtake so they punted me off after the long straight. Now in P9 the pin-balling effect happened again, and I get a great exit and heading down the straight I get side by side. Two car ahead had penalties had pulled to the right and as myself and the other person head down (me on the left the other person on right) the other driver decided to avoid the penalty cars, they are just going to hit the left button and take me out to avoid the slow car. Finished P9 (only due to most quitting)
Race 3 I finally found some clear track and a great race. Finished P4 with some great fair clean battles.
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One last tactic I wanted to discuss about Watkins Glen.
Going thru the S, T3-5; do you think it is more beneficial to stay inside the slip of the car in front, or, more beneficial to just take the curbs as tight as possible?
I watch the replay and follow the ghost of the top guys so I am used to gluing my inside tyres to the curb. However, I see the guys ahead of me missing the curbs and staying in the slip of the guy in front of them, who is also missing the curb. So I'm wondering if I am losing hundredths of a second not being inside his slip, or am I gaining hundredths by taking a tighter S.
Going thru the S, T3-5; do you think it is more beneficial to stay inside the slip of the car in front, or, more beneficial to just take the curbs as tight as possible?
I watch the replay and follow the ghost of the top guys so I am used to gluing my inside tyres to the curb. However, I see the guys ahead of me missing the curbs and staying in the slip of the guy in front of them, who is also missing the curb. So I'm wondering if I am losing hundredths of a second not being inside his slip, or am I gaining hundredths by taking a tighter S.
I have two very different experiences at Watkins. Main account is high B/S and is starting in P2 to P5 in mixed A/B lobbies. These races are wreck festivals in the first two laps and I get pinballed at least twice. Finish position is random based on how the penalties are distributed. My second driver is low B/S and I start at the back without a qualifying time. The races in the low Bs are more orderly and I try to avoid the wrecks while passing only when there are large gaps between groups of 3 or 4 battling it out. Why do drivers late brake and fly into the bus stop without a clue on how they will to get thru?
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Ideally you want to maximise the slip in the final turn so you sling shot past them on the straight. A few times I’ve been planted on the throttle and when I get to the final turn I’m having to back out as I’m too close which then means I lose the momentum to overtake. You can dip off the throttle early into the corners and then on the final turn you should be in a perfect position to make the move. Going off line or not following the line of the car ahead can help you slow the car to stop you catching the car quickly in the slip. I’d say practice both lines so you can then utilise the correct line to make a pass.
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If you feel you are understeering, try braking a little earlier and a little lighter. This is my approach for T1 and T last (whatever it is). On the last run, I’m fact, I discovered that if you start your turn before you brake, and then brake lightly, the car turns right through it without losing as much momentum.
Trail braking seems to be the equalizer here. I’ve tried braking late and hard and also early and soft, and I’m still learning what the car will do. I randomly find perfect combinations of turning while braking, only to forget how I did it the next lap. Sometimes the car oversteers drastically in a way that works perfectly! Sometimes . . . not.
It happened to me briefly yesterday. It came back for the next turn, but I was sure I had completely lost traction and was waiting to crash, but instead continued on and got my FFB back the next turn. It’s only happened a couple of times before this, but it’s not a one-time occurrence. I’ve found some races I have brilliant FFB and then others where it’s pretty bad. I have no idea what the pattern is.
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Slipstream > Tighter Line
Taking a tighter line isn't going to gain you speed, just not lose you speed. Being in the slipstream though is actively gaining speed and will make up for what you could have "not lost" via taking the perfect line.
hollowkatt
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HOLY [GOOD PLACE REFERENCE] I HAVE LEARNED HOW TO DRIVE!
Ok, all caps dealt with. I bought a wheel from Grumpy mid December, and the F-GT Lite rig. I knew I was going to be slower and whatnot learning a new tool.
A week or two ago I started doing dailies again on a secondary account. Not that my main has a great DR/SR but I figured if I'm going to besmirch my name lets do it on an alt for a while instead.
I qualified at Bathurst with a 2:09 using the GT-R earlier this week. Ran a few races, had a good time when I wasn't dying, etc.
Jumped in this afternoon for a quickie and remembered that someone here recommended the Lancer GR.3 saying "all the fun and none of the drawbacks of the GT-R.
Please give that person real life money because they are a genius. The Lancer GR.3 is a joy to drive, fast AF, hangs with the big dogs, and outruns them across the mountain top with ease. I had to lift, regularly, so as not to rear-end the guy I'm chasing.
Set a qualifying time of 2:04:7xx and jumped into a race. POLE POSITION BABY!
Immediately bottle the first turn up the mountain and fall to 3rd. Pass 2nd back out of Forrest's Elbow and set my sights on P1. Chased him for 2 more laps and pitted at end of Lap 3. Came out in like 6th or something like that needing to do 7 laps on the mediums. Ez Pz.
Took possession of first back a few laps later when everyone else starts pitting and then it happens. I crack off a 2:03:3xx IN THE RACE. Yes that's a full second and a half faster than my qualifying time. I have a lead of almost 30 seconds into Lap 8. I spin twice leaving The Cutting... and still finish 2nd 9 seconds behind the leader.
Anyways, if you're struggling on the Mountain give the Lancer a try, it's beautiful to drive, you might find several seconds you're leaving on the table. Just don't bottle a guaranteed win like I did lolol
Ok, all caps dealt with. I bought a wheel from Grumpy mid December, and the F-GT Lite rig. I knew I was going to be slower and whatnot learning a new tool.
A week or two ago I started doing dailies again on a secondary account. Not that my main has a great DR/SR but I figured if I'm going to besmirch my name lets do it on an alt for a while instead.
I qualified at Bathurst with a 2:09 using the GT-R earlier this week. Ran a few races, had a good time when I wasn't dying, etc.
Jumped in this afternoon for a quickie and remembered that someone here recommended the Lancer GR.3 saying "all the fun and none of the drawbacks of the GT-R.
Please give that person real life money because they are a genius. The Lancer GR.3 is a joy to drive, fast AF, hangs with the big dogs, and outruns them across the mountain top with ease. I had to lift, regularly, so as not to rear-end the guy I'm chasing.
Set a qualifying time of 2:04:7xx and jumped into a race. POLE POSITION BABY!
Immediately bottle the first turn up the mountain and fall to 3rd. Pass 2nd back out of Forrest's Elbow and set my sights on P1. Chased him for 2 more laps and pitted at end of Lap 3. Came out in like 6th or something like that needing to do 7 laps on the mediums. Ez Pz.
Took possession of first back a few laps later when everyone else starts pitting and then it happens. I crack off a 2:03:3xx IN THE RACE. Yes that's a full second and a half faster than my qualifying time. I have a lead of almost 30 seconds into Lap 8. I spin twice leaving The Cutting... and still finish 2nd 9 seconds behind the leader.
Anyways, if you're struggling on the Mountain give the Lancer a try, it's beautiful to drive, you might find several seconds you're leaving on the table. Just don't bottle a guaranteed win like I did lolol
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I hate reverse tracks. Every single one of them. Autopolis it will be.
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GrumpyOldMan
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Way cool! Glad the wheel is finally working out for you.
That's amazing! I did something like that once, and only once, and I couldn't believe my eyes. Great job.
Something like that happened to me earlier today. I wasn't in first or anything, but I had a huge lead over the guy behind me, and my mind just wandered twice. The first one didn't cost me anything, but the second one was on the next-to-the-last turn, and I smacked the wall and turned facing the other way, and lost my position. I guess not having pressure makes me complacent.
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Oh nuts!!!! I was creeping up on you. You should try the Megane instead. . .
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Nice one mate! Weirdly enough, I like it when you (or other friends) beat my time as it's like we help each other improve 🙂
Will have a go tomorrow as my feckin modem died and they're coming to replace it in the morning 🎉
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hollowkatt
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yeah, basically that.
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There's been a few Lancers and WRX'S in my races at Bathurst this week. A BRZ or two as well
The common denominator has been that they are slow on the dominant straights, it's neigh impossible to overtake on the mountain, and thus loosing out to the power wagons.
My personal favourite when one of the manoeuvre cars has been behind me downhill is overslowing at Forrest Elbow, keeping close close to the inside wall, then getting in the cas early and they drop out of slipstream before we are halfway down the straight.
The common denominator has been that they are slow on the dominant straights, it's neigh impossible to overtake on the mountain, and thus loosing out to the power wagons.
My personal favourite when one of the manoeuvre cars has been behind me downhill is overslowing at Forrest Elbow, keeping close close to the inside wall, then getting in the cas early and they drop out of slipstream before we are halfway down the straight.
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