GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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Follow up to my rant about Dailies earlier. Despite the moaning about tire wear… the races like at Autopolis (Manufacturers Cup race) really make for a more rewarding experience to me. The finishes are more often merit-based in those longer races with high tire wear. When the gap between a qualifying “ace” and truly race-fast drivers are narrowed with no tire wear and a singular META (like every Gr4 Daily race now it seems) the garbage is easy to come by. So more tire wear and more longer races that require pit stops are a good thing for Race C, if anyone is listening.
 
@GrumpyOldMan what did you set your Race B time in and how is it not killing you under acceleration? I've tried basically everything I own and a few that I don't and the BRZ is the only car I can get under 1:54 with that doesn't attempt to murder me every time I hit the gas.
 
Bullwinkle
But I’m still fastest in the 911, which seems to agree with me more than any other car. So far I’m still a fraction ahead of @Leon Kowalski for now, but I’m sure by the time I post this he’ll have passed me!
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No, I haven't tried to improve my quali time yet. And if I'm able to improve, it won't be in the 911. No idea how you can make it quick on this track.🧐
 
hollowkatt
I mean there's a reason we make fun of the Latifis, Mazepins, Yuji Ides, and Robbie Gordans of the world. They're bad drivers who lunge, have zero race craft, and generally make things worse for everyone around them. They ran out of skill taking the grid.

Likewise someone lunging from that far back has skill issues and shouldn't be on the grid at that level. If I surprise a guy from 50 feet back and bonk his drivers door while we're both attempting to make the corner that's on me 100% of the time for driving like a putz. Not the guy I'm attempting to pass for not having "situational awareness" of my bad driving.

The guy who hit Grumpy has skill issues. That's literally the end of the discussion. He had no business making that move and a collision happens 100% of the time when he does it.
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I mean you can say it's the end of the discussion all you want but it doesn't change the fact that several people have a differing opinion to you. But I think that situation has been thoroughly covered by now so there's no point repeating my views on it.

Again, not trying to defend dive bombs, but just cruising around on the racing line hoping people won't go up the inside is actually what defines zero race craft, not going for moves. But yeah not everyone playing GT7 is going to be at the level of the top 50% of F1 drivers, so sometimes the moves will be misjudged.

Anyway, like I've said before, what others do is out of ones control, and you can either die on a hill of your own personal ideas of what is race craft and what is an acceptable overtake, or you can try to anticipate what's coming and adapt. One of those ways will lead to a lot less crashes than the other.
 
hollowkatt
@GrumpyOldMan what did you set your Race B time in and how is it not killing you under acceleration? I've tried basically everything I own and a few that I don't and the BRZ is the only car I can get under 1:54 with that doesn't attempt to murder me every time I hit the gas.
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I love the BRZ at Alsace, but it just can’t keep up. As @BruceAlmighty suggested, TC1 may be your best friend here, at which point you could try a faster car. The Jag is pretty stable and has good speed. I love the Z4, but it can be a handful. But at TC1 they could treat you really well. Ultimately you’ll do best by not mashing the throttle coming out of those turns because they change camber so much. This track really rewards smooth inputs on the throttle and brake.
Leon Kowalski
No, I haven't tried to improve my quali time yet. And if I'm able to improve, it won't be in the 911. No idea how you can make it quick on this track.🧐
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And for some reason I can’t get the Aston Martin to go!

Alsace rewards good trail braking. The MR cars turn in so well on this track with just a little tap of the brakes. For whatever reason, when I switched to TC0 and learned how to trail brake over the summer the 911 became my best friend. There are so many clever ways you can manipulate its weight transfer especially in the flowing tracks like Alsace. There are times when I’m on both the brake and the throttle.

I’m convinced that the Citroën could do some amazing things on this track for the reasons I listed. I ran a bunch of laps and although my time wasn’t as good, I was getting close. More importantly, each lap revealed something new about how the car lines to be driven. I suppose I ought to study that car in depth and do the Manufacturers’ Cup because nobody in their right mind would pick that car!
 
Life has been getting in the way of dailies, made a couple A-races yesterday and found them funner than the past - No DR, so no worries that I have yet to complete a race without ending up 180-degrees in the wrong direction. Sector 3 with its high speed sweepers is directly in my wheelhouse. Made a livery for the A-race if anyone wants a faster livery. Inspired by nights above treeline.

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Taking a different tack on on-line racing. Love to race, but my patience with everything we all complain about is (at times) wanting. A few days ago, I had a number of battles with a driver in sequential lobbies. It was fantastic racing, often for distant grid positions, but it seemed he/she was having as much fun as I. The next day, I couldn't race on line, so I made a livery for the other driver's car.

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Now I just need to figure out how to gift it to them.
 
hollowkatt
@GrumpyOldMan what did you set your Race B time in and how is it not killing you under acceleration? I've tried basically everything I own and a few that I don't and the BRZ is the only car I can get under 1:54 with that doesn't attempt to murder me every time I hit the gas.
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My latest time, 1:51.998 (woo hoo!) was set with the RC F GT3 '17. The one before that was set with the V12 Vantage. And I always run with TCS 1, as well as ASM on, and CA at "strong". I've decided that I can put up decent times (to me) with these assists on, and it just isn't fun for me to try to wean myself from them. Also, I'd rather stay a mid-to-high B than get to a low A and struggle to hang on to it. (Although if I get to A with these assists on, I will definitely crow about it!)

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How about this for a glitch. It took over 6 minutes for my last Race B to start, and we only had 3 cars in the race! Leave it to me to mess even this up! 40 second clip:
 
GrumpyOldMan
My latest time, 1:51.998 (woo hoo!) was set with the RC F GT3 '17. The one before that was set with the V12 Vantage. And I always run with TCS 1, as well as ASM on, and CA at "strong". I've decided that I can put up decent times (to me) with these assists on, and it just isn't fun for me to try to wean myself from them. Also, I'd rather stay a mid-to-high B than get to a low A and struggle to hang on to it. (Although if I get to A with these assists on, I will definitely crow about it!)

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How about this for a glitch. It took over 6 minutes for my last Race B to start, and we only had 3 cars in the race! Leave it to me to mess even this up! 40 second clip:
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I'd estimate that TC1 alone would cost me at least half a second on this track. No idea about the other assists. So, that IS a very good Q time. Congrats!

And the kind of glitch you describe, I had that several times, too. Once it ended in a two player race. A DUEL! 🤣
 
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GrumpyOldMan
My latest time, 1:51.998 (woo hoo!) was set with the RC F GT3 '17. The one before that was set with the V12 Vantage. And I always run with TCS 1, as well as ASM on, and CA at "strong". I've decided that I can put up decent times (to me) with these assists on, and it just isn't fun for me to try to wean myself from them. Also, I'd rather stay a mid-to-high B than get to a low A and struggle to hang on to it. (Although if I get to A with these assists on, I will definitely crow about it!)

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How about this for a glitch. It took over 6 minutes for my last Race B to start, and we only had 3 cars in the race! Leave it to me to mess even this up! 40 second clip:
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I'm convinced, I'll give TCR 1 a shot. Look for an improved time later today!
 
hollowkatt
I really don't care. When it's commonplace enough for multiple forum members to be talking about then it should be talked about directly so that others know who to avoid and who can race clean.

I get that mods don't want to have hate fests going on in the forum, nobody does. That being said if I'm consistently punted by Green Flag having drivers, not the same driver repeatedly, not even in the same race, or the same lobby group, I'm going to say something about it. If that draws mod action then it does and I'll just stop posting nbd.
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I'm a 'Green Flag haver', I've been playing the game for a few months and I still make a lot of mistakes, sometimes these mistakes screw people's race but I make sure to apologize or at least make clear it wasn't intentional, but in all I can confidently say I am not a dirty driver. I, like everyone here, strongly believe dirty driving and bad behavior should be penalized. Always.
I have no idea what the dirty driving/nationality ratio is. I'm in the american region, I know that all the lobbies I'm in are populated by around 90% of non 'Green Flag havers' . I'll get punted either way.
If all the 'Green Flag havers' you've encountered were dirty drivers, that sucks and I'm sorry for it. I'll make sure to do my part and be a good example, but personally this type of profiling is what pushes me way from the internet.
I mostly race at night in the american lobbies so very often I'm the only 'Green Flag haver'. I know for a fact that I'm not the dirty driver, maybe you can teach how to identify who can and who can't race clean?
 
for the last 4 days i did around 4 hour quali laps per day for Daily Race B, couldn't get a good time and was around 1.5k on the leaderboard. In the race, everyone just easily passing me at acceleration and on the straights. Turns out i was using the wrong GTR :( i selected the older GTR which is around 1.5 sec faster on a single lap. now i'm at top 300 leaderboard :( waste of my time
 
Leon Kowalski
I'd estimate that TC1 alone would cost me at least half a second on this track. No idea about the other assists. So, that IS a very good Q time. Congrats!
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Thanks! You know, we (all of us, including me) complain about so many things about this game. But the number of options, cars, etc, that are available to match our driving styles and/or abilities is actually kind of amazing. I know a lot of people here have played racing sims for a long time, but not me. This is my first foray into sim racing, and it's mind-blowing. Even with all the things left to complain about. :lol:
Leon Kowalski
And the kind of glitch you describe, I had that several times, too. Once it ended in a two player race. A DUEL! 🤣
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Come on, don't keep us in suspense - who won? Was it competitive, or did one of you pull a "Grumpy"? :lol:
 
NevilleNobody
YOu definately don't need TC1 is Group 4 because only the AWD cars are worth competing in. For Group 3, Supra, Z4, 911 and McLaren can do TC0 no worries. It gets sketchy after that though.
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yeah GR.4 I'm always TC 0
Grumpy recommended TC 1 for GR.3 for how he set his time. I figure it's worth experimenting with. I've found the 911, BRZ definitely don't need it no matter how rough I am with the throttle.

I know I'm losing time in braking zones and with my shifting. I'm too slow in which saps speed on the faster sections, and I'm watching some replays of the times that have them and I see them doing all sorts of shifting wizardry. I'll give the Supra a shot. I remember liking it for some circuits but having troubles getting it to turn, which is why I gravitated towards the BRZ and 911.
Thanks for the tip!
 
hollowkatt
yeah GR.4 I'm always TC 0
Grumpy recommended TC 1 for GR.3 for how he set his time. I figure it's worth experimenting with. I've found the 911, BRZ definitely don't need it no matter how rough I am with the throttle.

I know I'm losing time in braking zones and with my shifting. I'm too slow in which saps speed on the faster sections, and I'm watching some replays of the times that have them and I see them doing all sorts of shifting wizardry. I'll give the Supra a shot. I remember liking it for some circuits but having troubles getting it to turn, which is why I gravitated towards the BRZ and 911.
Thanks for the tip!
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I pretty much exclusively use the SUPRA, high A DR, d-pad and X button and AUTO. The shifting thing, yeah is what it is, one loses time there but it's all so fake, the car should be blowing up.

You're right, the Supra understeers but it has a telepathic gearbox that change JUST as it enters a corner, aiding rotation. under brakes, i hit them hard then pump them, aiding turn in. Slow in - fast out.......

I don't have any good videos of Supra races but pace here was very very solid given the competition was A+/A. About half way through I change to the car behind me and you can see my lines and how hard I exit.

 
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Gavi
I'm a 'Green Flag haver', I've been playing the game for a few months and I still make a lot of mistakes, sometimes these mistakes screw people's race but I make sure to apologize or at least make clear it wasn't intentional, but in all I can confidently say I am not a dirty driver. I, like everyone here, strongly believe dirty driving and bad behavior should be penalized. Always.
I have no idea what the dirty driving/nationality ratio is. I'm in the american region, I know that all the lobbies I'm in are populated by around 90% of non 'Green Flag havers' . I'll get punted either way.
If all the 'Green Flag havers' you've encountered were dirty drivers, that sucks and I'm sorry for it. I'll make sure to do my part and be a good example, but personally this type of profiling is what pushes me way from the internet.
I mostly race at night in the american lobbies so very often I'm the only 'Green Flag haver'. I know for a fact that I'm not the dirty driver, maybe you can teach how to identify who can and who can't race clean?
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I agree 100%

I've said before that the majority of dirty drivers I encounter are North Americans. That's going back to the start of GT Sport.
Previously, when they segregated the North and South American drivers in the daily races, it sucked. The races were under-populated, and we missed a lot of our South American friends.

Keep racing, buddy. I'll be glad to compete with you. 👍
 
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I had a couple of amazing races today in both A B & C. In 7 races raced today i didnt come across a single dirty driver.

I spent most time in Daily C. Raced with B-drivers and ended up in 7th place. The first C-driver of the field. Then i matched with C-drivers. The first race me and another were almost identical on pace so for the last 8laps there was nothing more than 0.500s between us. Amazing fun just putting pressure in another racer. We both raced fair and left space. I ended up in second after a slight mistake. We finished about 20 seconds ahead of the rest of the field. The last race of today was my first win. I started in pole, set the fastest lap on lap 2 and finished 13 seconds ahead of 2nd. Great with a win but a boring race.

So here is my problem. My driver rating is C/S. When i race with other C/S drivers i am very competetive. Usually starting top 3. When i race with B-drivers im starting from 7 and down and not being able to be competetive to get the top places. Im somewhere inbetween. Either its really easy or really really hard. Any tips besides getting faster. I have limited time to sit down and play because a house, two kids and a job. Usually a couple of hours per week.
 
hollowkatt
I'm watching some replays of the times that have them and I see them doing all sorts of shifting wizardry.
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This is just me talking here, and I could certainly be wrong, but here goes:

The lead times do a LOT of shifting, but even us lowly peons need to use shifting to get the best results. The idea is that you use the gears (and brakes of course) to slow you down as you approach the apex, and once you hit the apex (or just past it - most of the time you don't want to be too early), you can upshift (i.e. 2nd-to-3rd) and step on it. Upshifting means (in general) less tire spin, and less chance of spinning out.

If you're able to come into the apex without being on the brakes, then the car will be faster around the apex (assuming you've got the speed right - slower is always better that too fast). I'm not saying don't trail brake - just try to be off the brakes before you hit the apex so the car's weight isn't dipping forward.
 
GrumpyOldMan
This is just me talking here, and I could certainly be wrong, but here goes:

The lead times do a LOT of shifting, but even us lowly peons need to use shifting to get the best results. The idea is that you use the gears (and brakes of course) to slow you down as you approach the apex, and once you hit the apex (or just past it - most of the time you don't want to be too early), you can upshift (i.e. 2nd-to-3rd) and step on it. Upshifting means (in general) less tire spin, and less chance of spinning out.

If you're able to come into the apex without being on the brakes, then the car will be faster around the apex (assuming you've got the speed right - slower is always better that too fast). I'm not saying don't trail brake - just try to be off the brakes before you hit the apex so the car's weight isn't dipping forward.
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Yeah, that's what I'm still struggling to learn I think. Like when the best time to downshift is, things like that. Do I hammer the downshift button or do I do it more gradually that kind of stuff.

I'm getting better at going a gear lower than "I should" to rotate and then upshift for acceleration, it's just getting better at executing it lol.

I tried the Lexus with TCR 1 and couldn't get lower than a 1:55 so I'm kinda thinking you're a savant or something :D
 

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