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6th win for me!

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This time all the grid was C/S. I started P1 and kept it until the end with a constant gap of 1.5-3.0 seconds. Really anxious, but I know there are only two turns I can fail in Suzuka: Degner (turn 8, after the esses) and The Spoon (turn 13 + 14), so I just went easy there.

And I've reached DR B for the first time ever!
 
Why are they doing this? No stop, fuel saving races are boring. I don’t get why PD thinks this is a good idea.
Well, there is no need of fuel saving here. It's just a sprint race, which is ok for me. For example, ACC LFM Dailies are almost all about sprint races. What I really want is a qualy lap before every race, that would mix things up tbh, specially when the race is a sprint one without pit strategy.
 
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Absolutely agreed! I can tire save with the best of them but I don't have the skill set (yet, hopefully) to tire save, fuel save, and also be fast enough!

Yes, context! It's great that there are highly skilled drivers here sharing their tips, knowledge, and ideas. That's how our community can grow, develop skills, and pass that knowledge down to the next set of drivers. But the added context of "here's my control scheme, here's my rankings, then here's my strategy thoughts" would be super helpful for those of us trying to learn.

None of that is to say "please Tingy (sorry using you as an example name lol) hold my hand because I need you do to additional labor to make things easier for me", nothing like that is intended!

It's more along the lines of "if you've got the time/energy/capacity to include that information please, it's super helpful!"
Then you also need to include region because there's a vast difference in speed per DR
 
I tried a race C today to try and claim some DR back after last weeks nightmare. I love Road Atlanta but never really tried Gr3. Put myself in the Nismo GT3 ‘18 as I sort of know it and put in a decent quali-hoping to get mid 1:18s soon.

Started P2 in my mid-high B lobby, all good… got overtaken by P3 on the long back straight all good. He and the leader were about 5 seconds ahead of me all race until P2 pitted - must have started on mediums. I was consistent all the way through for a solid P2 - P1 very quick!

I like the race, shame there is no strategy as RH and no stop is solid but no fun.. But what absolutely absolutely gets me is; 15 laps, I misjudged the unsighted T3(?) on ONE lap and slightly cut it, bit of a harsh 0.5 second penalty for that but besides that no cutting or penalties or contact… but NO clean race bonus? Talk about unkind, in a lively group 3 car over 15 laps… how on earth are you supposed to get a clean race bonus!?? I think the reward for P2 was 40,000 credits which just feels like an insult.

I’m enjoying the new physics, the GTR feels great with the wheel and I can ‘feel’ the DNA of the road car which is quite amazing considering this is a race car and it’s a computer game.. that same steering weight/weight transfer feel is there through the wheel in the game. Very impressive.

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Why are they doing this? No stop, fuel saving races are boring. I don’t get why PD thinks this is a good idea.
I do like a pitstop race and I agree fuel saving is stupid, but I also think tire strategy is over rated. By Tuesday evening everyone is on the same "strategy" anyways. Tire wear is really what makes Race C interesting, regardless if a pitstop is needed. I do like a two compound mandatory race, but I think the challenge in that is adaptation to wear and compound change, not the strategy.
 
6th win for me!

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This time all the grid was C/S. I started P1 and kept it until the end with a constant gap of 1.5-3.0 seconds. Really anxious, but I know there are only two turns I can fail in Suzuka: Degner (turn 8, after the esses) and The Spoon (turn 13 + 14), so I just went easy there.

And I've reached DR B for the first time ever!

Well done mate great job! Now the fun starts in B/S 😉
 
I do like a pitstop race and I agree fuel saving is stupid, but I also think tire strategy is over rated. By Tuesday evening everyone is on the same "strategy" anyways. Tire wear is really what makes Race C interesting, regardless if a pitstop is needed. I do like a two compound mandatory race, but I think the challenge in that is adaptation to wear and compound change, not the strategy.
You've hit on an excellent point that I think goes super under the radar with respect to GT is a video game and not IRL racing. A meta exists that can be solved incredibly quickly AND once solved basically means you're either driving the meta or you're trying to beat the meta AND you know exactly what the objectively correct strategy is at any given time.

IRL racing isn't like that. Mostly for two reasons: IRL racing doesn't re-run the 6 Hours of Portimão over and over again/grind qualifying/etc AND you are only allowed to run the car you've purchased and entered into the race.

Daily racing on GT cannot ever hope to replicate that. Special events for sure can. Like the GTWS or Manufacturers Cup races. You must choose your car, set your time in a one shot QT event, then go racing.

Dailies are more along the lines of hotlapping Track Day type events where you can change up what you've got depending on what's good at that circuit and you've got as many opportunities to improve your QT and your in race strategy as you can take.

So maybe it's not about "how accurately can we replicate the Petit Le Mans race" and more about "is this a fun and enjoyable way to pass some time".

If I start from that premise I still find a lot of failures on the part of PD but resetting my expectations from "I am simulating an IRL racing event with the same types of restrictions on vehicles, tires, and whatnot as real racing drivers" to "I am playing a video game about race cars and IRL rules and expectations may or may not be realized in this format" and that does change things for me a bit.
 
You've hit on an excellent point that I think goes super under the radar with respect to GT is a video game and not IRL racing. A meta exists that can be solved incredibly quickly AND once solved basically means you're either driving the meta or you're trying to beat the meta AND you know exactly what the objectively correct strategy is at any given time.

IRL racing isn't like that. Mostly for two reasons: IRL racing doesn't re-run the 6 Hours of Portimão over and over again/grind qualifying/etc AND you are only allowed to run the car you've purchased and entered into the race.

Daily racing on GT cannot ever hope to replicate that. Special events for sure can. Like the GTWS or Manufacturers Cup races. You must choose your car, set your time in a one shot QT event, then go racing.

Dailies are more along the lines of hotlapping Track Day type events where you can change up what you've got depending on what's good at that circuit and you've got as many opportunities to improve your QT and your in race strategy as you can take.

So maybe it's not about "how accurately can we replicate the Petit Le Mans race" and more about "is this a fun and enjoyable way to pass some time".

If I start from that premise I still find a lot of failures on the part of PD but resetting my expectations from "I am simulating an IRL racing event with the same types of restrictions on vehicles, tires, and whatnot as real racing drivers" to "I am playing a video game about race cars and IRL rules and expectations may or may not be realized in this format" and that does change things for me a bit.

Every sim is artificial.

I think we should all know this by now and let's be honest GT/PD have been the masters of this for 25 years.

As I said earlier in the thread with regard to weather in daily races. It's engineered to be exciting not realistic. Tire races aren't the same in that there is no concept of tire saving in GT unless you can some how do close to pace but without using the tires?

Fuel saving is a fallacy and doesn't belong in sprint race based games because we don't get to pick the fuel loads...

The races are prioritised to be balanced rather than realistic with the "human comedy" being the players not the rules.

All of the games/sims do the same things but they prioritise them differently. Which lowers or raises the entry bars for those games.
 
So maybe it's not about "how accurately can we replicate the Petit Le Mans race" and more about "is this a fun and enjoyable way to pass some time".
This is why they absolutely have to get the penalties figured out. I’m having less and less fun every week as dirty driving goes unpunished and, ultimately, is actually rewarded. Realistic or not, this is a competitive branch of a video game and ought to at least have some semblance of enforcement in order to protect and promote real sportsmanship.

I feel like I’m getting trolled by PD lately with their bizarre decisions like wall penalties but no contact penalties, changing BoP to promote one or two articular manufacturers, killing FFB to “prevent injuries,” boring and repetitive race choices, etc. I was actually beginning to worry that I might be addicted to GT7, but PD has very graciously broken me of my constant desire to play their game.
 
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I do like a pitstop race and I agree fuel saving is stupid, but I also think tire strategy is over rated. By Tuesday evening everyone is on the same "strategy" anyways. Tire wear is really what makes Race C interesting, regardless if a pitstop is needed. I do like a two compound mandatory race, but I think the challenge in that is adaptation to wear and compound change, not the strategy.
Which is why I prefer a ONE compound race with enough wear to require a pit. This allows for an over/under cut strat which keeps everyone on their toes.
 
Very welcome, although expensive, as I already had given my first one the widebody treatment.🥳
What I don't get is why they don't allow widebody when BOP is active. Isn't the effects of cosmetic changes (spoilers/body kits) nullified when BOP is active.
Like you said, it makes it frustrating when you have a wide bodied version and then its an upgrade you cant undo.
 
I going with the Porsche for Road Atlanta this week. I got a time of 1:18.9XX which is something I never thought I would see. I do need to get the entry into turn 2 and the subsequent entry into the esses cleaned up. It's a bit wild with my current line and I'm losing a bunch of time there. Should still be a good time tomorrow even if it's a no stop race.
 
How is the fairplay this week in then European B/S-Lobbies for Race C?
I have Road Atlanta in bad Memory for people sending it everywhere. After my SR-tank from last weeks Race C I am a bit overly careful.

I concentrated on Race Bs yesterday, first some races without timetrialing with different cars McLaren, Lamborghini and Ferrari.
Found the Ferrari best suited for my driving style and realized that going cleanly through the field is impossible.
A quick Timetrial-Session got me a 2:11:3 that was enough to start in the front of the pack.
Had some great races, but could not keep it together over a whole race for a win.
 
How is the fairplay this week in then European B/S-Lobbies for Race C?
I have Road Atlanta in bad Memory for people sending it everywhere. After my SR-tank from last weeks Race C I am a bit overly careful.

I concentrated on Race Bs yesterday, first some races without timetrialing with different cars McLaren, Lamborghini and Ferrari.
Found the Ferrari best suited for my driving style and realized that going cleanly through the field is impossible.
A quick Timetrial-Session got me a 2:11:3 that was enough to start in the front of the pack.
Had some great races, but could not keep it together over a whole race for a win.
Same here. Was close to A-rated last sunday because of some good racing at Spa, but Road Atlanta has not been my best friend in the past, so have done two races at Suzuka. When you start at the front, there might be no problems, but when you start in the middle or at the back, you will get into some serious punting. Not something you would like to see when your aiming at A-rating.
 
My driving skill's heavily impaired by not having played for about two months, and now having to re-learn the whole thing in VR. But, I thought, **** it, I'll just drive online, to hell with the rating. So I'm having a lot of fun just trying to finish races at the moment.

But holy cow, there's a significant difference between B lobbies and C lobbies. Feels like I continuously have to dodge assassins on the track.


(completely unrelated to the post: sorry that my choice of words made it necessary for the admins to edit the post – I didn't mean to hide a common swear word. As far as I'm aware, the word I've used is genuinely a rather mild word. Anyways, I'll take note not to use it in the future.)
 
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Which is why I prefer a ONE compound race with enough wear to require a pit. This allows for an over/under cut strat which keeps everyone on their toes.
Add in a touch of fuel strategy and it really increases the fun! Fuel save or add a splash of fuel during the stop?

Played 2 rounds of Race C last night. It was actually pretty fun despite the no stop on hards being the meta strategy.
 
But holy cow, there's a significant difference between B lobbies and C lobbies. Feels like I continuously have to dodge assassins on the track.
Which way do you find the difference? After racing C's for a while I didn't find it too bad. I must be improving as just had my first mixed B/C race at Suzuka, and was the worst driving I've seen so far.
 
I almost can’t believe I raced this much but to my defense (lol), I was home all week and got the idea that I would do some more credit research (I’ve done this thing a couple of times before), even though we all know the payout for online is shamefully low it’s still interesting to get some objective facts and numbers on the table. This time here I didn’t qualify which obviously impacted my finishing position, consequently the idea was something along the lines of “credit earnings for mid/low results in Sport mode”. Since there were quite a few races I’ve put them in detail inside the spoiler below.

2023 WEEK 12 // DAILY RACE A — GR.4 WATKINS GLEN // CREDIT REWARDS

1: 9th / 14,151 (CRB)
2: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
3: 7th / 10,139
4: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
5: 8th / 9,786
6: 7th / 10,139
7: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
8: 11th / 12,960 (CRB)
9: 8th / 9,786
10: 7th / 10,139
11: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
12: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
13: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
14: 5th / 12,343
15: 3rd / 22,482 (CRB)
16: 4th / 19,837 (CRB)
17: 3rd / 14,988
18: 4th / 19,837 (CRB)
19: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
20: 7th / 10,139
21: 9th / 14,151 (CRB)
22: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
23: 11th / 12,960 (CRB)
24: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
25: 4th / 19,837 (CRB)
26: 5th / 12,343
27: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
28: 6th / 11,021
29: 4th / 19,837 (CRB)
30: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
31: 9th / 14,151 (CRB)
32: 9th / 9,434
33: 10th / 13,489 (CRB)
34: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
35: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
36: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
37: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
38: 4th / 19,837 (CRB)
39: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
40: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
41: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
42: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
43: 6th / 11,021
44: 4th / 19,837 (CRB)
45: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
46: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
47: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
48: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
49: 4th / 19,837 (CRB)
50: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
51: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
52: 5th / 12,343
53: 8th / 9,786
54: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
55: 3rd / 22,482 (CRB)
56: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
57: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
58: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
59: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
60: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
61: 6th / 11,021
62: 4th / 19,837 (CRB)
63: 2nd / 25,128 (CRB)
64: 3rd / 22,482 (CRB) [passing 1,000,000]
65: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
66: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
67: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
68: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
69: 5th / 12,343
70: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
71: 7th / 10,139
72: 2nd / 16,752
73: 11th / 12,960 (CRB)
74: 4th / 19,837 (CRB)
75: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
76: 9th / 9,434
77: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
78: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
79: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
80: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
81: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
82: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
83: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
84: 10th / 13,489 (CRB)
85: 7th/ 15,208 (CRB)
86: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
87: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
88: 4th / 19,837 (CRB)
89: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
90: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
91: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
92: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
93: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
94: 3rd / 14,988
95: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
96: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
97: 7th / 10,139
98: 10th / 13,489 (CRB)
99: 6th / 11,021
100: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
101: 3rd / 22,482 (CRB)
102: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
103: 4th / 13,225
104: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
105: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
106: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
107: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
108: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
109: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
110: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
111: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
112: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
113: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
114: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
115: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
116: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
117: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
118: 10th / 13,489 (CRB)
119: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
120: 4th / 13,225
121: 5th / 12,343
122: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
123: 7th / 10,139
124: 9th / 14,151 (CRB)
125: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
126: 4th / 13,225
127: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
128: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
129: 4th / 19,837 (CRB) [passing 2,000,000]
130: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
131: 6th / 16,531 (CRB)
132: 3rd / 22,482 (CRB)
133: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
134: 8th / 14,679 (CRB)
135: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
136: 8th / 9,786
137: 9th / 14,151 (CRB)
138: 7th / 15,208 (CRB)
139: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)
140: 5th / 18,514 (CRB)

TOTAL EARNINGS: 2,198,275
CLEAN RACE BONUS: 112/140 (80,00%)
RACE INFO: 8 laps / ~10m 5s (605s) / ~32,5 kms
TOTAL LAPS: 1,120
TOTAL KMS: ~4,550 kms
TOTAL TIME SPENT: ~23 hours 30 min (~84,700 seconds) EXCLUDING WAITING TIME*
In the waiting time between one daily race A and the next I can easily do the offline race American Sunday Cup 600 (Three laps around Daytona Speedway in for example a Corvette C8 ’20, Ford GT ’06, Dodge Viper GTS ’13 or the like) four times, earning 22,500 × 4 = 90,000 Cr.

A selection of Cr rewards in the actual daily race A:

10th / 3,952 (NO CRB)
9th / 6,217 (CRB)
8th / 6,450 (CRB)
7th / 6,682 (CRB)
6th / 4,843 (NO CRB)
6th / 7,264 (CRB)
5th / 8,136 (CRB)
4th / 5,811 (NO CRB)
4th / 8,716 (CRB)
2nd / 11,041 (CRB)
1st / 16,854 (CRB)

Please pay more credits for online racing, Polyphony! Five wins in daily A with CRB in all five is less credits (84,270) than four offline cruising wins in Daytona done while waiting (!) for the next online race.

Online = challenge (pay more)
Offline = no challenge (absolutely no logic that this is paying more)

Well, I spent a good chunk of the past week doing this again, this time from an opposite win perspective as opposed to last time. Fewer and shorter races but still.

2023 WEEK 15 // DAILY RACE A — FERRARI F430 ’06 at LAGO MAGGIORE WEST END // CREDIT REWARDS

1: 7th / 6,682 (CRB)
2: 9th / 6,217 (CRB)
3: 5th / 8,136 (CRB)
4: 10th / 3,952 (NO)
5: 7th / 6,682 (CRB)
6: 8th / 6,450 (CRB)
7: 6th / 4,843 (NO)
8: 4th / 5,811 (NO)
9: 4th / 8,716 (CRB)
10: 4th / 5,811 (NO)
11: 6th / 7,264 (CRB)
12: 5th / 8.136 (CRB)
13: 8th / 6,450 (CRB)
14: 4th / 8,716 (CRB)
15: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
16: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
17: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
18: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
19: 2nd / 11,041 (CRB)
20: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
21: 2nd / 11,041 (CRB)
22: 4th / 5,811 (NO)
23: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
24: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
25: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
26: 2nd / 11,041 (CRB)
27: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
28: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
29: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
30: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
31: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
32: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
33: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
34: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
35: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
36: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
37: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
38: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
39: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
40: 2nd / 11,041 (CRB)
41: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
42: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
43: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
44: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
45: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
46: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
47: 5th / 8,136 (CRB)
48: 2nd / 11,041 (CRB)
49: 2nd / 11,041 (CRB)
50: 2nd / 11,041 (CRB)
51: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
52: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
53: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
54: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
55: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
56: 2nd / 11,041 (CRB)
57: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
58: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
59: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
60: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
61: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
62: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
63: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
64: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
65: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
66: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
67: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
68: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
69: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
70: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
71: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
72: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
73: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
74: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
75: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
76: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
77: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
78: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
79: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
80: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
81: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
82: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
83: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
84: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
85: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
86: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
87: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
88: 2nd / 11,041 (CRB)
89: 2nd / 7,361 (NO)
90: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
91: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
92: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
93: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
94: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
95: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
96: 1st / 16,854 (CRB)
97: 2nd / 11,041 (CRB)

TOTAL EARNINGS: 1,405,364 [1,179,780 (70 wins) + 225,584 (27 non win results)]
CLEAN RACE BONUS: 91/97 (93,81%)
RACE INFO: 5 laps / ~5m 2s / ~12,5 kms
TOTAL LAPS: 485
TOTAL KMS: ~1,212 kms
TOTAL TIME SPENT: ~8 hours 8 min (~29,294 seconds) EXCLUDING WAITING TIME*
POSITION STATS:
1st (70), 2nd (11), 3rd (0), 4th (5), 5th (3), 6th (2), 7th (2), 8th (2), 9th (1), 10th (1)

At the same time, people are getting 727,500 Cr (CRB included) or 825,000 Cr (CRB incl) for doing the offline WTC 800 Sardegna or WTC 600 Tokyo Expressway East Clockwise in ~23, 24, 25 minutes, winning by an eternity, lapping the AI once/twice meanwhile the above here is the result of 70 wins online. I’m not necessarily saying the credits need to match exactly but the contrast is just absolutely astronomical. Again, this is of course not news to anyone but it’s data I’m happy to share and compare.

So yeah, two wins at offline Sardegna is more credits (1,455,000) than 97 online races, of which 70 were wins and 91 with clean race bonus where the former is less than an hour spent and the latter is north of eight hours, excluding waiting time.
 
How is the fairplay this week in then European B/S-Lobbies for Race C?
I have Road Atlanta in bad Memory for people sending it everywhere. After my SR-tank from last weeks Race C I am a bit overly careful.

I concentrated on Race Bs yesterday, first some races without timetrialing with different cars McLaren, Lamborghini and Ferrari.
Found the Ferrari best suited for my driving style and realized that going cleanly through the field is impossible.
A quick Timetrial-Session got me a 2:11:3 that was enough to start in the front of the pack.
Had some great races, but could not keep it together over a whole race for a win.

Not touching my B rated account this week. Racing on my C / S account against B with low SR feels like someone has painted punt me on the back of my car.

I don't understand how some folks think. They are in a faster car with better acceleration and we are approaching the long back straight.

So you would think easy pass for them on said straight. Noooo let's dive bomb the slowest corner on the track and punt me to Narnia (as well as damage their own car.). Why?

I even had one dude accuse me of break checking them which caused them to crash. I knew they were on mediums so I pulled over on straight before first corner as fighting that just slows us both down.

I was on other side of track off racing line when they passed me and they got about a second gap before corner and lost rear went off track. Apparently my fault somehow 🤔 (Edit: forgot to add that they put me on their "Revenge" list ....ooh scary and that tells me all I need to know about them lol)

Oh well ... Tried a bunch of cars (all the usual meta's and others ). I think I am going to settle in and race the Beetle GR 3 of all things for the rest of the week.

It's not the fastest or anything but seems to do ok every where on the track. Best so far is a P3 on a no stop.
 
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Had a week or so off, so a bit rusty on my comeback in a car I haven't driven much off on a circuit I'm not very good at, being punted repeatedly by a car that later claimed the lobby was dirty. Sigh. At least the next one went better:

 
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Which way do you find the difference? After racing C's for a while I didn't find it too bad. I must be improving as just had my first mixed B/C race at Suzuka, and was the worst driving I've seen so far.
I’m interested in this also as this is my exact current level. I‘m currently a low end B driver and struggle to get any decent results. Finishing mid-pack is a good result for me and is celebrated with a beer. In low B lobbies, there’s some questionable driving and hugely aggressive overtakes I’ve been seeing that sends multiple cars off track.

I find high C lobbies to be more enjoyable. People are competitive but a little more conservative trying to put together decent results, maybe aiming for solid top-5 results rather balls out driving to get podiums.
Just my observation.
 
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