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GT7 Daily Race Discussion
- Thread starter Pigems
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- Nor Cal
- sturk0167
I know I've posted about this before, but it always baffles me. Like "what were you thinking?".
I gained some momentum on the car in front of me, and instead of staying outside and braking early to get the undercut, this mouth-breather swerves right in front of me immediately before a braking zone.
I braked right away when he did it, but still bumped him.
FYI: It's very, very unlikely that the person behind you is perfect. He probably wouldn't be behind you, if that was the case.
I gained some momentum on the car in front of me, and instead of staying outside and braking early to get the undercut, this mouth-breather swerves right in front of me immediately before a braking zone.
I braked right away when he did it, but still bumped him.
FYI: It's very, very unlikely that the person behind you is perfect. He probably wouldn't be behind you, if that was the case.
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- USA
- GTP_CarlosF
Ditto - I’m trying to run non-meta, and I’ve found that the list of cars that can compete over a race distance. The list shortens when I tune out vehicles that don’t suit my style or have some awkward nuances ie gear ratios don’t quite suit certain circumstances.
To your second point, most if all the top times are with a Supra and the YouTube guys are using one (and most of them are A+), then it’s natural for folks to gravitate towards that car.
I’m finding that I quite enjoy starting from the back at the start of each week while I get my eye in on the track, repair my invariably damaged SR and try out the different cars. I think I’ve tried 7 or 8 different cars at Spa for example - some were great but boring, some were exciting (occasionally for the wrong reasons). Based on what I experienced, the BoP is pretty good over a race distance
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- Buffalo, NY
- Stilva
Only one race for me tonight and it was a terrible race. Not the fault of others as I couldn't drive Spa for anything. Off tracks and the penalties that go with them really add up. Combine that with me being in a stacked lobby, and starting P10 that puts you on the apex of the final bus stop corner makes for a not fun time. I also hit one of the green bollards and went airborne for a moment. Yeah, not a fun time. I finish P14 by default as 2 drivers quit the race. It was cool seeing all the cars in front of me going through Eau Rouge and Raidillon with the sparks flying so it wasn't all bad I guess.
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I would like to follow up on this. I summoned up the courage to set a qualifying lap and started 6th in almost all B/S lobby. Two drivers made slight side-contact with me on the first lap, which is typical in the B/S lobby, but it still rattled my nerves a bit. However, I managed to finish 4th and received a clean race bonus. Now, I feel good about participating in the Daily Races again without having to do a bunch of SR repair drives.
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I’ve wondered too about ‘copycat behavior’ with the meta, particularly since it’s usually the case that a meta car emerges early in the week. How many cars are actually tried by those setting the fastest times?
Supra is a handful. It’ll oversteer easily, but I’m also getting understeer too!
Might try the RSR which I find is pretty stable and quick.
Supra is a handful. It’ll oversteer easily, but I’m also getting understeer too!
Might try the RSR which I find is pretty stable and quick.
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- Ulricehamn
Not singling you out, this is a common problem. I believe that about 80% of what is perceived as intentionally ramming someone off is a mistake that can only bee seen in the replay, either a missed brake marker or a getting loose at the wrong moment or even the car perceived to be intentional dirty getting hit by another car and starting a chain reaction.
The point is that most "intentionally dirty moves" isn't intentional at all. So to the guy being retaliated upon it looks like a gross over-reaction, that breeds retaliation and so on it goes
I try to make a point of never retaliate before I have watched the replay. And at that point the red mist is gone so I end up not retaliating.
Now, if I see a driver ahead of me taking out people left and right then I don't need a replay to cast judgement. That guy gets a pre-emptive strike
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- Rotterdam
- mcl-1974-2
I prefer to use the car that I am using in the Manufacturing series and consider setting a time in the dailies as practicing with it. Yesterday I decided to do something different and try that Supra for once. First lap at Spa I was very close to my fastest time in the Ferarri so my thought was that in a few laps the Supra would surely improve my time.
I did about 100K with the Supra but never managed to get a good lap together, in the end i got within a tenth of my time set with the Ferrari. It might be META but it just did not really liked how it handled (and looked). It had the potential but I just could not find the comfort that I have in driving the Ferrari.
I can understand why people use the META, it makes sence to use the best tool available, but for me the fun is in using something else and try to get the best result with it.
When the Manufacturing Series start again I expect more drivers showing up with that Supra but not sure all can get the max out of it, especially in longer races...
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- jdeviant1983
Totally agree but unfortunately it is a thing for a lot of players, for better or worse. I don't find it difficult to rebuild a burnt SR and it's clear dirty drivers don't find keeping an SR S a challenge either so I'm behind just go out and have fun with it, the numbers will balance themselves over time.
To not play a game to ensure you don't lose a score is surely the last thing we'd want as a hobby.
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- Oregon
- ILLEAGLE_34
Can’t get high if you ain’t been low.
One must first lose to appreciate the win. ☯️
Could someone post a video clip of how there SR drops from S to C,B even A. I thought that I have been in some pretty terrible races but I must be mistaken. I’m honestly wondering what it takes. I think I have dropped down to b once and a 2-3 times since gt7 came out, on multiple accounts ( i’m not exactly positive about those numbers because we don’t have the great resource of kudos prime anymore) 🍻
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- TheGameL-A-X
I know I've posted about this before, but it always baffles me. Like "what were you thinking?".
I gained some momentum on the car in front of me, and instead of staying outside and braking early to get the undercut, this mouth-breather swerves right in front of me immediately before a braking zone.
I braked right away when he did it, but still bumped him.
FYI: It's very, very unlikely that the person behind you is perfect. He probably wouldn't be behind you, if that was the case.
Yep, I know that struggle. Don't you never ever, and by that I mean NEVER EVER(!!), move under braking! But too many think they can do it just to keep their position. But then they forget that you are behind them and avoiding them is nearly impossible. So you hit them, and by hittimg them it is YOU who get's the penalty... Yep, sometimes I hate that I love this game.
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- United Kingdom
- bone_tone
I don't have a video, but my experience over the last 2 weeks has been grim.
Last week at Le Mans, on Monday my SR went from S to B in my first race (no penalties though), and stayed there through 3 more races. The next day, first race, SR dropped to C, and then stayed there all week.
This week, race C again, SR went up to B on Monday, and then A yesterday.
Downwards progress appears to be very fast, getting back up again is very slow!
Having said that, my DR has gone from being one race away from dropping to C, to mid-B, which is where I have been for years. Also, I'm not worried about ratings either way, I just get on and enjoy the racing (especially when it's clean!).
- 1,057
- Italy
I did a couple more RaceCs yesterday. I'm at a point where I get paired with mixed B and C lobbies.
For the first race it wasn't a big deal, the B's did their race in the front and the C's played it behind. I started 13 and finished 9
The second race was more complicated. There were several B's with SR C's in the lobby, many of them at the bottom with no qualifying time.
If I may venture an ignorant opinion I would also say not very capable of driving, because it was a constant dive (not even too dirty, I have to be honest, we've seen worse) and make a few mistakes that led them to lose a handful of positions again. I have a hard time understanding how a B rating drives so erratically.
On top of that I had the misfortune of passing a few laps behind someone with a low-bandwidth connection. His car kept disappearing and reappearing all over the place, which distracted me and made it difficult for me to set the trajectories.
I started 9 and finished 9
Still, two fun races.
For the first race it wasn't a big deal, the B's did their race in the front and the C's played it behind. I started 13 and finished 9
The second race was more complicated. There were several B's with SR C's in the lobby, many of them at the bottom with no qualifying time.
If I may venture an ignorant opinion I would also say not very capable of driving, because it was a constant dive (not even too dirty, I have to be honest, we've seen worse) and make a few mistakes that led them to lose a handful of positions again. I have a hard time understanding how a B rating drives so erratically.
On top of that I had the misfortune of passing a few laps behind someone with a low-bandwidth connection. His car kept disappearing and reappearing all over the place, which distracted me and made it difficult for me to set the trajectories.
I started 9 and finished 9
Still, two fun races.
hollowkatt
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if I remember right people complained about SR drops and not getting CRB the last time GR.4 ran Le Mans because PD has coded the SR calculations so poorly that bump drafting cost SR.
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- ILLEAGLE_34
Yeah I generally avoid La Mans, I just don’t seem to like it/have the correct race craft for the track. So lucky I missed out on those SR killers. 🍻
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- Southern Indiana
- Raptorhawk121
After getting blasted in my SR on race B this week I was forced to focus on C. I started out A/S but dipped to C/D. Just from my SR tanking. Even trying to be cautious it is impossible to not touch anyone. The speed differentials are hard to judge and nobody can keep the rear end under them.
I ran quite a few race C's with the Porsche. I was pretty consistent at 2:21 in race pace and a 2.19.6 on QT. Just to spice things up I gave thr alfa 4c a go and improved my QT to 2:18.5.
Give it a try if you haven't. It drives like the 911 with less understeer. It is a bit stiffer so careful on the kerbs.
It is also amazing how many people don't know that RH are mandatory in C. I've won 2 races now coming in second because the leaders didn't pit in RM's.
I ran quite a few race C's with the Porsche. I was pretty consistent at 2:21 in race pace and a 2.19.6 on QT. Just to spice things up I gave thr alfa 4c a go and improved my QT to 2:18.5.
Give it a try if you haven't. It drives like the 911 with less understeer. It is a bit stiffer so careful on the kerbs.
It is also amazing how many people don't know that RH are mandatory in C. I've won 2 races now coming in second because the leaders didn't pit in RM's.
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- Houston, TX
- TheOneDonJuan
I do wonder if there's been a drop in the player base as I'm getting a lot more varied lobbies than I used to. Been getting a lot of drivers with B or A SR ratings and don't remember that being the case before. Also notice that Sport Mode has gotten a bit buggier. It takes it a second now to get me "in" when I've registered and now there appears to be a bug that says "No DR Updates" after every race.
I think the physics update was necessary for what PD want to do with the game. Overall though it's come at a huge cost to game "fun" and you can see that in the races. I've never dealt with this much carnage before. I thought Spa would be a little better due to it being a longer circuit but it's been almost as bad as Road Atlanta was last week. Not sure what the sudden change into no stoppers on hards has been but it's clearly for a reason. And like @J Vulture said, PD likes to pick favorites when it comes to cars and your player base is going to suffer for that. There still isn't a viable American car in the lot. Tried the Mustang and it still can't turn. It used to hold it's own on these tracks as a sorta high HP Supra alternative. The Ford GT as well. I was expecting a little more from the new BoP changes but not much has changed actually.
I used to play Dragonball Fighterz but eventually quit because rage quitting was too convenient in the higher ranks. I would deal with it all the time and eventually just quit playing the game entirely. Reminds me of the dirty drivers in GT7. They eventually addressed it but it was too late and now it's a little bit of a running joke in the FGC. PD seems the mirroring the strategy a little bit with GT7. They clearly dont want to over-police out of fear that their casual player will leave. Bold strategy Cotton, let's see how that works out for you.
I think the physics update was necessary for what PD want to do with the game. Overall though it's come at a huge cost to game "fun" and you can see that in the races. I've never dealt with this much carnage before. I thought Spa would be a little better due to it being a longer circuit but it's been almost as bad as Road Atlanta was last week. Not sure what the sudden change into no stoppers on hards has been but it's clearly for a reason. And like @J Vulture said, PD likes to pick favorites when it comes to cars and your player base is going to suffer for that. There still isn't a viable American car in the lot. Tried the Mustang and it still can't turn. It used to hold it's own on these tracks as a sorta high HP Supra alternative. The Ford GT as well. I was expecting a little more from the new BoP changes but not much has changed actually.
I used to play Dragonball Fighterz but eventually quit because rage quitting was too convenient in the higher ranks. I would deal with it all the time and eventually just quit playing the game entirely. Reminds me of the dirty drivers in GT7. They eventually addressed it but it was too late and now it's a little bit of a running joke in the FGC. PD seems the mirroring the strategy a little bit with GT7. They clearly dont want to over-police out of fear that their casual player will leave. Bold strategy Cotton, let's see how that works out for you.
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I've also been seeing a lot of lobbies with SR S,A,B, and sadly I joined them this week with a drop to SR.A. I'm not even sure when it happened because I never pay attention, it's just always S. I think my drop was a cumulative effect of last week's le mans bump drafting and this weeks track penalties in both daily B and C. I suspect I'm not alone since I've been seeing more SR.As even when I'm SR.S.
So, no problem, I'll do a morning Spa where I always get in mixed B-A+ lobbies and start towards the back, making a clean run. No such luck! The lobby was kind of eeew; it felt like walking into a dive pub down a dark alley! (Hope that doesn't sound elitist, and no offense to anyone here but I've never seen a SR.C in the wild and there were a few here). I lifted at radillon, lifted on straights when someone was behind me and still finished P7. Didn't get the CRB, but the SR is back to S. I'll run a few clean runs this weekend to beef it up again.
So, no problem, I'll do a morning Spa where I always get in mixed B-A+ lobbies and start towards the back, making a clean run. No such luck! The lobby was kind of eeew; it felt like walking into a dive pub down a dark alley! (Hope that doesn't sound elitist, and no offense to anyone here but I've never seen a SR.C in the wild and there were a few here). I lifted at radillon, lifted on straights when someone was behind me and still finished P7. Didn't get the CRB, but the SR is back to S. I'll run a few clean runs this weekend to beef it up again.
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- United States
Never seen an SR C in the wild … that’s good!
It does seem like the lobbies are more mixed recently. I’ve been trying to claw my way back to SR B from D (!). Currently at C/S and have been in A/B lobbies at Spa, with lots of non-S SR drivers.
I’m in the Americas btw.
It does seem like the lobbies are more mixed recently. I’ve been trying to claw my way back to SR B from D (!). Currently at C/S and have been in A/B lobbies at Spa, with lots of non-S SR drivers.
I’m in the Americas btw.
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After putting a lot more time in than usual at Road Atlanta the week before last (and having a blast), the last two weeks I've done a grand total of three races I think. Two at Le Mans last week, but I was put off by the weird ghosting and it was one of those weeks were I didnt have the time to commit to putting in a qualy time that would avoid the nasty rolling start at the back.
I did one Race at Fuji this week and that was enough, it wasnt fun and I know doing more would be a futile excercise of frustration, and weekend time is to precious for that level of carnage and annoyance. Especially on a Friday night when alot of us are on the adult beverages, it will be horrendous. Race C doesnt interest me. I like Spa but it feels so samey and like we have been there alot recently (probably havent, my memory isnt what it used to be). Just cant get motivated for it.
I do miss A being ranked. In the old GTSport days I do remember atleast two of the races interesting me in a given week, but now if its one I want to do I'm lucky.
I will be back for Bathhurst next week (which I adore) but we'll see what the survival rate is up the mountain is I guess.
I'm with everyone else here that says in the past few weeks behaviour has got worse and its not surprising if people are spending more time in the 3 new available time trials.
Anyway, back to Dirty Rally 2.0 this weekend for me.
I did one Race at Fuji this week and that was enough, it wasnt fun and I know doing more would be a futile excercise of frustration, and weekend time is to precious for that level of carnage and annoyance. Especially on a Friday night when alot of us are on the adult beverages, it will be horrendous. Race C doesnt interest me. I like Spa but it feels so samey and like we have been there alot recently (probably havent, my memory isnt what it used to be). Just cant get motivated for it.
I do miss A being ranked. In the old GTSport days I do remember atleast two of the races interesting me in a given week, but now if its one I want to do I'm lucky.
I will be back for Bathhurst next week (which I adore) but we'll see what the survival rate is up the mountain is I guess.
I'm with everyone else here that says in the past few weeks behaviour has got worse and its not surprising if people are spending more time in the 3 new available time trials.
Anyway, back to Dirty Rally 2.0 this weekend for me.
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- ILLEAGLE_34
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- Grand_Slammin
Good lord that’s ugly!!!
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- United Kingdom
Also to be fair that race has battered normal people out of their natural habitats.
Yesterday and today have been repair day for me, from A/S down to C/C after grinding top 7 finishes and wins in Daily C im back to B/S.
Two things it reminded me is that consistency and just not defending everything increases my rating significantly. The down side is that typically C races are boring no/fuel strat events and they get dull real quick for me.
I had two notable moments in the SF23 races today.
First was a brain fart where I am holding down the upshift paddle and furiously mashing the overtake button trying to go up the gears.
Second was a beautifuly lucky perfect jump start and gained lots of naughty places without meaningful penalty. Felt like a grid start God.
First was a brain fart where I am holding down the upshift paddle and furiously mashing the overtake button trying to go up the gears.
Second was a beautifuly lucky perfect jump start and gained lots of naughty places without meaningful penalty. Felt like a grid start God.
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I didn’t mean to say ‘copycat behavior’ is bad. A lot of us copy or borrow driving techniques from the fast drivers, and I’m pretty sure most of us who race the meta car didn’t do a rigorous back to back comparison of all the cars in its class.
My question, though, is how much testing do the really fast drivers do before they decide what the meta car is?
Ps I have no doubt the Supra is the quickest car this week at Spa. As you say, it’s so much faster in a straight line (as Tidgney showed is his daily race guide).
My question, though, is how much testing do the really fast drivers do before they decide what the meta car is?
Ps I have no doubt the Supra is the quickest car this week at Spa. As you say, it’s so much faster in a straight line (as Tidgney showed is his daily race guide).
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How did you drop from A to C? I went from mid-B to low D recently after getting repeatedly punted off at Laguna and Suzuka.
Agree that it’s often wiser to let drivers pass you. Better than getting punted! If they’re quicker you can get in their slip and watch their lines. If they’re overdriving they’ll bin it and you’ll get the place back without risking your SR.
