GT7 Daily Race Discussion
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Started doing some daily races again in the last few weeks - on an alt account. Was at DR C, dropped to D twice and was heading towards a solid C during last weeks fun at Dragon Trail. Felt I would be doing better if there had been no deliberate punts. Got onto a good steak over the weekend and got my alt just up to B S. I guess it will be a while before I can consolidate the B - but if I can stay high C or yo-yo between C and B then I will be happy for now. I managed to get my main to B S last year - which translated as I was able to do ok on Gr 4 B races. Goal is to be able to do mix B and C races going forward. Now what's all this recent talk of TC 1 - I thought you all raced without assists?
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- mellofello9
Thanks for the lap guide...haven't raced here yet since I only recently converted from 'Sport. This looks like it's gonna be fun. 👍
Will say, I think I might take a week off the next time that Seaside config' comes around. Missed-out on racing this weekend as we were out of town but had a freakin' blast there while I could. Very encouraging results so am looking forward to this weeks rounds.
See y'all on the circuit and remember: If you aren't still learning, you shouldn't be driving!😁
Seems fine to me, car works better with manual and part of getting good is learning to drive your car properly. No reason in my mind to worry about that, there's always inherently pros and cons to both transmission styles.
Looking forward to this week's race C, haven't had the chance to try it yet. Had a good time with last week's, but it is unfortunate that the BoP heavily favors the Group C cars at Sarthe. I didn't place well most races but had a good time regardless.
If anyone's interested, this was my best race from last week. I was really struggling to find more speed but think it was due to me dropping gears too often. Fun race though. @icycls was in that race, saw what happened final lap in the replay, that was REALLY crappy to get screwed over like that, really hate the game's teleport mechanic, but that one was about the worst I've seen.
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- TechnoIsLove
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I would really like to help some of you guys that struggle down in D/C
I imagine a whole lot of us could help you.
In the absence of that help, I'll just offer a couple of tips I use myself. Ignore as appropriate.
First do daily A, it teaches you car control and usually some form of contact racing you learn to avoid.
Secondly spend the time watching the replays and remember assists or no assists, manual or automatic you can get smooth laps in.
And lastly sometimes you need to just consolidate positions and just brining it home edges you up.
TT is one thing in the race it's decision making that is the difference. Practice lining up overtakes etc in A that's what it's there for. Ignore positions but get more comfortable racing around real people.
There is no reason people on this thread or or forum can't comfortably be B rated. I believe that, yes volume of races helps but that's just a short cut a small time saver but it's not a blocker.
I can't stress enough that doing the circuit experiences is a must. Yes the cars change but the corners don't and mostly neither do the Apexes or acceleration points. Find the time to do them. They pay credits (you don't have to have renta cars
) but they are designed to help you go fast.
So if this is patronising that is not my intention I just want to be racing all you guys and I know we are all at least B material some of us a lot more.
I imagine a whole lot of us could help you.
In the absence of that help, I'll just offer a couple of tips I use myself. Ignore as appropriate.
First do daily A, it teaches you car control and usually some form of contact racing you learn to avoid.
Secondly spend the time watching the replays and remember assists or no assists, manual or automatic you can get smooth laps in.
And lastly sometimes you need to just consolidate positions and just brining it home edges you up.
TT is one thing in the race it's decision making that is the difference. Practice lining up overtakes etc in A that's what it's there for. Ignore positions but get more comfortable racing around real people.
There is no reason people on this thread or or forum can't comfortably be B rated. I believe that, yes volume of races helps but that's just a short cut a small time saver but it's not a blocker.
I can't stress enough that doing the circuit experiences is a must. Yes the cars change but the corners don't and mostly neither do the Apexes or acceleration points. Find the time to do them. They pay credits (you don't have to have renta cars
) but they are designed to help you go fast.So if this is patronising that is not my intention I just want to be racing all you guys and I know we are all at least B material some of us a lot more.
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I was racing that thinking, 'I know that name somewhere...' Hi!
Oh my.... you saw that?! Arghhhh, getting shoved off in the porsche curves.. on lap 6 ... was bad enough, and then, wtf?! Dropped from 8, iirc, to 12?
On monday, I complained about the quality of driving in that race, but expected it to get better thoughout the week. And for the most part it was, but that race I was also shoved a couple times on lap 1. Tough breaks, oh well, it;s a new week.
You looked like you had a really good run, well done!
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- MrHatss
This, this is fundamental in my humble opinion...being still a C rated - almost BI can't stress enough that doing the circuit experiences is a must. Yes the cars change but the corners don't and mostly neither do the Apexes or acceleration points. Find the time to do them. They pay credits (you don't have to have renta cars
But the track experiences are really a must, you just focus on a part of the track at a time, you learn how to handle it well and then you go to the next, before a great recap with a whole lap.
It helped me a lot this week, saturday night I did the Daytona experience, all gold, and today I had a 2nd and 3 position...it just gives you the smoothness to drive it fast
ps. anybody using the break balance on the Peugeout or the Ford to turn faster? any hint?
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In the GT40 don't bother. In the weird Peugeot thing I tried front and rear and just don't like the car or can be fast for me and where I'm at, this moment in time.This, this is fundamental in my humble opinion...being still a C rated - almost B
But the track experiences are really a must, you just focus on a part of the track at a time, you learn how to handle it well and then you go to the next, before a great recap with a whole lap.
It helped me a lot this week, saturday night I did the Daytona experience, all gold, and today I had a 2nd and 3 position...it just gives you the smoothness to drive it fast
ps. anybody using the break balance on the Peugeout or the Ford to turn faster? any hint?
It's a mental thing but I find the VGT car thing a bit weird when I race to replicate at least some reflection of the real world (it's why I LOVED A when it was ranked with clios and scirrocos etc but VGT stuff is a bit ridge racer for me...the GT40 spec 2 isn't far off that though either or the supra...
Good advice in general, I think. One thing I'd add is to try and learn basics of defensive racecraft, you really don't learn it at all in single player against the AI opponents. Learning simple techniques like taking the inside line and breaking draft temporarily can go a long way in saving positions. I'm new to online racing and learning and applying basics helped me climb out of C. A lot of times I'll go back and watch a replay of a pass I gave up and try to figure out why and what I could have done to hold off the attack better.I would really like to help some of you guys that struggle down in D/C
I imagine a whole lot of us could help you.
In the absence of that help, I'll just offer a couple of tips I use myself. Ignore as appropriate.
First do daily A, it teaches you car control and usually some form of contact racing you learn to avoid.
Secondly spend the time watching the replays and remember assists or no assists, manual or automatic you can get smooth laps in.
And lastly sometimes you need to just consolidate positions and just brining it home edges you up.
TT is one thing in the race it's decision making that is the difference. Practice lining up overtakes etc in A that's what it's there for. Ignore positions but get more comfortable racing around real people.
There is no reason people on this thread or or forum can't comfortably be B rated. I believe that, yes volume of races helps but that's just a short cut a small time saver but it's not a blocker.
I can't stress enough that doing the circuit experiences is a must. Yes the cars change but the corners don't and mostly neither do the Apexes or acceleration points. Find the time to do them. They pay credits (you don't have to have renta cars
So if this is patronising that is not my intention I just want to be racing all you guys and I know we are all at least B material some of us a lot more.
Also, I strongly recommend prioritizing SR over DR for new drivers. If you can keep a cool head and drive consistently, you'll get progressively better races, and drive better in general. The overall chaos of low DR + SR races it starts you out in almost made me not want to play sport mode, but when you climb a bit, eventually it may become far more fun than single player for you, I know it did for me.
Yeah, I believe you're right, it teleported you back from 8 to 12.
And thanks! Yeah it was my best run all week, think because there was a small player pool in C I kept getting matched with A+/A as well, so most of the rest of my races I was definitely in the slow pack.
And yeah, from my experience too the quality of driving mostly improved over the course of the week, but I think there's just something about that race that brings out the worst in some drivers. One race I had over the weekend was ruined by someone that decided around lap 5 to push everyone they can off, they racked up a 15s penalty IIRC by the time I got near him, but my options were basically to try and get past without getting slammed off, or either pre-emptively punt him. I chose the former, and of course it didn't work out, and of course he quit out after causing a couple minutes more chaos. He probably got up to a 30s penalty before leaving.
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I haven't done a ton of daily races but I do enjoy the ones on tracks I like. I started out (not that long ago) just going for it. Driving far too hard for my ability and track knowledge. I always took the most care I could to not cause strife with other drivers but I was my own worst enemy. Fast forward a couple weeks and instead of just going full time trial speed I dialed it back. Braking properly or even early if there was any traffic I could cause issue with. I ended up getting faster and better at avoiding the inevitable dive bombs and pit maneuvers. Turns out, going a little slower is a lot faster and WAY more consistent for me and it quickly bumped my S rating to S. That helped more than anything else. I'm a C but my times are usually much closer to or better than a good percentage of B drivers. I play the same way and usually just running clean at your own pace will really help you keep position. Just being in races with mostly high rated sportsmanship drivers really makes it a better experience to gain driver rating. At least for me in my little world. Plus it's so much less aggravating not having to drive the whole race in your mirrors looking for the punt.
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Well..... my first race with a wheel didn't go too well...
Qualified 11th among all A/S guys on Race C, which was probably where I'd have been with a controller. Anyway, lights out and the false start thingy, and my car is inexplicably rolling forward?? Then I discover my wheel is doing nothing and somehow the PS5 controller has control - I managed to get the wheel recognised, but by this time I was 16th and 34 seconds behind 15th!
I'm not sure how the controller took over, as I had been doing qualifying just before and the wheel was fine. I should maybe have done the warm-up to check all was ok.
Qualified 11th among all A/S guys on Race C, which was probably where I'd have been with a controller. Anyway, lights out and the false start thingy, and my car is inexplicably rolling forward?? Then I discover my wheel is doing nothing and somehow the PS5 controller has control - I managed to get the wheel recognised, but by this time I was 16th and 34 seconds behind 15th!
I'm not sure how the controller took over, as I had been doing qualifying just before and the wheel was fine. I should maybe have done the warm-up to check all was ok.
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- TechnoIsLove
I'm so disappointed.. Started P2 at Daytona and had to slow down (wouldn't be the first time) as P1 went into T1 a bit slow.
Lost 2 positions but all was good. Took P3 back soon enough and once again behind the top 2 and hunting them down. I felt I was faster but was difficult to find an overtake.
Then on T1 on Lap 3, they slow down a lot once again and had to brake, hard. Unfortunately, I was accidentally tapped from behind by P4 and both our cars went through the bend with unsettled cars.
Unfortunately, he couldn't do anything about it and ran me wide, causing me to spin and fall down to P14 😢
Managed to climb to P11 and was passing P10 right before the finish line and he purposefully shoved me into the barriers to not lose the position...
Spoke after the race and all was good, these things happen so we move on...
Disappointed, but not disheartened. Will try again tomorrow!
Lost 2 positions but all was good. Took P3 back soon enough and once again behind the top 2 and hunting them down. I felt I was faster but was difficult to find an overtake.
Then on T1 on Lap 3, they slow down a lot once again and had to brake, hard. Unfortunately, I was accidentally tapped from behind by P4 and both our cars went through the bend with unsettled cars.
Unfortunately, he couldn't do anything about it and ran me wide, causing me to spin and fall down to P14 😢
Managed to climb to P11 and was passing P10 right before the finish line and he purposefully shoved me into the barriers to not lose the position...
Spoke after the race and all was good, these things happen so we move on...
Disappointed, but not disheartened. Will try again tomorrow!
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I don't think defensive driving is a a technique in C or our interpretations differ slightly.
In the lower ranks it's usually late braking or push to pash techniques learned from racing the AI.
You can't defend against that sort of driving. Defensive driving to me at those levels is moving out of the way, staying on the track and bringing home solid positions.
As you move up levels and the people infront and behind get better/more consistent then yes start to practice alternative lines defensive or faster it doesn't matter it's the fact you recognise them and practice them is the the thing.
The defensive lines you practice at lower levels are wasted if you can't keep the pace and understand how to maximise speed from any line. Otherwise your just a mobile chicane on the racing line.
Practice setting consistent times and really understand where you are losing it and then double down and work on going quicker. Only when you are consistent can you consistently do things. The rest is kinda moot because the skill levels vary so much the lower and I'm including B here.
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I agree fully with the protect you're SR rating first. With the daily races, the first challenge is to find a place where most of them are enjoyable. This means being able to post a fast enough quali time to avoid the mayhem and bargers, and to "hang on" for a high enough finish. Compared to Time trials and qualifying, the big difference with the daily races is all the random events happening - I keep on having to remind myself to concentrate on my braking and turning points as well as the other drivers.
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- Slatanic1
Did some laps at Daytona and set a decent time (replay shared in case it might help anyone) i really enjoy this track so i can hopefully get some racing done this week. Not tonight though, going to see alexisonfire and avenged sevenfold 🤘
Fair enough, especially at the lower ranks, although I do think that as you start getting towards the top of C, it is definitely worth learning. I started getting more competitive drivers in my fight to get to B, and there were a fair number of instances that by me simply deciding to go on the inside when someone behind is getting the run on me helped hold my position, specifically for me at the Watkins Glen race the other week.
But yeah, I do agree at lower ranks moving out of the way to avoid people that divebomb every turn works great. Consistency first for sure, once you are consistent building from there helps a lot.
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Genuinely bud, spend more time doing laps and setting consistent times.
That is 99% of the issue is that people rarely bother to practice. They do a couple of laps and say "Ah I'm 9th on the grid" in C lobbies that's probably a couple of seconds off of a top B time and add another second on top of that for mediocre A times....
There are several people in the top 50 who use controllers, the no. 6 ghost I used today used countersteer assist and TC. So there really is no difference other than practice.
I mean this sincerely but the way to get out of those C/D situations is to go quicker and that has nothing to do with SR and DR and everything to do with practice and understanding what makes a quick lap quick.
True, I suppose looking back on it, me spending more time following the ghost and getting good qualifying positions and learning the line, and where I'm losing time, probably helped the most, when I was consistently starting at the top of the grid in C every race because I knew the line and was faster than most I competed with in my ranking.
Also, just to clarify I'm by no means a good driver haha, only been learning to race for the past few months and only recently got to DR B, but have been having a lot of fun figuring out where to improve. Hoping to get to A eventually, but I have a lot of work to do there.
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In the past 3 weeks before this week, I think I've done a about 5 races. I just haven't been feeling it. (Group C cars at Le Mans last week exposed how shockingly inept I am. I did two races and just got the fear so didnt bother with it again. I somehow got punted into oblivion even with the ghosting in play and i couldnt find any consistency at all. I'm amazed my main account is at a low DR A rating).
Anyhow, maybe in the minority here, but I kinda like race B this week. Having predominantly done race C's all year, its nice to have a short race in a combo I like. Its been awhile. Running in my alt account which is in my proper habitat of mid DR B.
Its carnage though. Classic case of everyone running every lap like its there quali lap. And why cant people fathom that there just might be stuff going on in front of the car directly ahead of them?
As @newmedia_dev has alluded to above, theres alot of mobile chicanes at Daytona. Its just constant in lower lobbies.
Anyhow, maybe in the minority here, but I kinda like race B this week. Having predominantly done race C's all year, its nice to have a short race in a combo I like. Its been awhile. Running in my alt account which is in my proper habitat of mid DR B.
Its carnage though. Classic case of everyone running every lap like its there quali lap. And why cant people fathom that there just might be stuff going on in front of the car directly ahead of them?
As @newmedia_dev has alluded to above, theres alot of mobile chicanes at Daytona. Its just constant in lower lobbies.
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I am sooooooo spoiled. I go 5 or 6 hours without power, and I have withdrawls. No PS5 to play GT7. No computer to keep working on GranTracker (need internet connection). Tried playing Zelda on the Nintendo Switch in handheld-mode, and everything's so small I can't even read the maps (old-man eyes, even with glasses). And no GTPlanet to complain about it and seek commiseration!
Was forced to spend time talking with the wife!! What a concept. We both decided to sleep instead. Just kidding - we actually like talking to each other - what a concept!
Now back to seeing if I can find a way to enjoy Daytona with only 4 laps. Dammit PD - how can you still be so clueless??!!??
Ahhh, I feel so much better now.
Was forced to spend time talking with the wife!! What a concept. We both decided to sleep instead. Just kidding - we actually like talking to each other - what a concept!
Now back to seeing if I can find a way to enjoy Daytona with only 4 laps. Dammit PD - how can you still be so clueless??!!??
Ahhh, I feel so much better now.
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Its okay to be fair. Once you get destroyed in turn 1 on lap 1, there's only 3 more laps where you have to trawl around at the back after suffering some damage. Beats doing it for 6 laps.
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- Ixterminator
Hope to see some of you guys tonight in the Daytona race!
Message me if you see me (@lcd.editz)
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- MrHatss
Ahhhhhh back to the forum for the italian late-night update...and.....for the first time ever I'm DR - B ranked!
Well, at least until tomorrow
I set a new QT time with the Peugeout VGT at 1:47:333 using a ghost but I've got something more, watching my replays I see that I make a couple of mistakes, I'm faster than the ghost at the first slow and dramatic turn, but then I lose too much time in the second turn to right...
Anyway, did 4 races in a row, from 2nd to 7 position, with the official debut in B with a 5th....let's see if tomorrow I'm able to improve the QT.
Well, at least until tomorrow
I set a new QT time with the Peugeout VGT at 1:47:333 using a ghost but I've got something more, watching my replays I see that I make a couple of mistakes, I'm faster than the ghost at the first slow and dramatic turn, but then I lose too much time in the second turn to right...
Anyway, did 4 races in a row, from 2nd to 7 position, with the official debut in B with a 5th....let's see if tomorrow I'm able to improve the QT.
One race done at Daytona - kept my B rating - finished 9th - could have finished 8th but got a 3 second ignoring the yellow flag warning - arrived into total carnage at a corner and went by some ghosted cars so did not think I was doing anything wrong. Bit unfair tbh but sure what can you do.
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Some of us use the tools we are offered, such as automatic transmission. Some of us lack sufficient dexterity to operate our controllers without that aid.
I was under the impression that the transmission choice was merely a device to move the vehicle, not a measure of whether or not I need to “Git gud”.
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- rde1138
I envy your position. There are those of us that have to spend days at work with no time available at all to race.I am sooooooo spoiled. I go 5 or 6 hours without power, and I have withdrawls. No PS5 to play GT7. No computer to keep working on GranTracker (need internet connection). Tried playing Zelda on the Nintendo Switch in handheld-mode, and everything's so small I can't even read the maps (old-man eyes, even with glasses). And no GTPlanet to complain about it and seek commiseration!
Was forced to spend time talking with the wife!! What a concept. We both decided to sleep instead. Just kidding - we actually like talking to each other - what a concept!
Now back to seeing if I can find a way to enjoy Daytona with only 4 laps. Dammit PD - how can you still be so clueless??!!??
Ahhh, I feel so much better now.
