GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[appu]

I got sick of people knocking me about and trying to be a sportsman and not retaliate.

Hopefully it was just one or two drivers. In most race, there is always one or two.

I'm quite enjoying Race A with go karts this week whenever that certain one idiot is not starting right behind me. He seems to drive while wearing horse blinkers, constantly ramming everyone, including me, so hard that my wheels get damaged. No use trying to chat and ask such folks to race cleaner as they are most likely oblivious that they are a bad driver, despite their SR-S rating. And you can't retaliate against them because they are usually racing with their friends, who are all likely oblivious of the dirty driving. And I definitely don't want to be known as a dirty driver among a bunch of drivers because of one dirty driver.

I had one victory so far in this week's Race A and possibly the only one that I will get here. It was also narrowest win ever for me, with the 3rd guy (3rd, not 2nd!) finishing 0.268 sec behind me.

Without incidents, this race is insanely close, with folks ahead and behind you under 0.4 sec! (at least in my lobbies)

 

[TechnoIsLove]

I honestly don't know what to say... Probably one of my all-time best races ruined on the last corner of the last lap by scum... Started P5 and was P2 at Trial Mountain by the end of the first lap. I remained consistent, kept my cool and remained fair - always within a second of P1 but not making a move if it is not 100% clean.

We had build a gap of 4s+ on P3 by lap 8 and he was feeling the pressure (P1) and started to make mistakes. His defending meant P3 had almost caught up to us and I finally managed to make my move on lap 9 and took the lead. I'm still ahead on the final lap heading into the final 2 corners when the dude who was P3, having passed the previous leader, decided that winning was more important than fair racing.

Literally on the last chicane, he just slams into me and takes the lead, putting me in P3 alongside P2. I managed to get P2 crossing the line using slipstream from the scummy winner but still, it does not feel good

 

[MrHatss]

Did one race in Mount Panorama tonight...I was feeling pretty good, users seemed good, in the first lap driving uphill people behaved well just slowing down in the series of turns that usually creates the bottleneck, then a champ just crashed me and made me spin, I admit that I haven't felt angry but just resigned.
Finished 14th, gave up and moved to time trial and grinding Sardegna

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

Did one race in Mount Panorama tonight...I was feeling pretty good, users seemed good, in the first lap driving uphill people behaved well just slowing down in the series of turns that usually creates the bottleneck, then a champ just crashed me and made me spin, I admit that I haven't felt angry but just resigned.
Finished 14th, gave up and moved to time trial and grinding Sardegna

Yeah, Mount Panorama has been all over the place. I get really ticked when someone intentionally bumps me in the esses - that's not the place to tap someone!

But I was the jerk in my last race. I was gaining on someone coming down the hill before the hard-left turn, and I couldn't decide what was the best way to handle it, so I hit him instead. What an idiot (me). I waited for him, and he thanked me after the race.

I'm still enjoying the course and the races, except when I drive like, uh, doo-doo.

I'm still using the R.S.01 because I handle the corners much better in it, but it's slower than the 911 in the straights, which is OK unless I mess up the turns leading into the straights. Then it's just a matter of time until someone passes me. I'm gonna have to try the 911 again, and some other cars, because I hate getting caught on straights because the other car is faster.

 

[TheOneDonJuan]

Got 2nd tonight at the Mountain. Guy in front of me was a "B" driver running 2:05s in the race and a 2:03 quali time. Not very "B Driver" of him lol.

911 is the ticket here. Wish you could drive other cars but I can't string together one good lap with almost anything else. AMG 20' is the closest and I still crashed it multiple times in the lone race I tried it.

 

[Dep Fishtail]

Been struggling with all venues except karts this week. Fun for a race or two but not my normal fix.

Barely under 2 minutes on Trial Mtn in this anti clockwise layout so I’m reeling to find time.

Bathurst is beginning to click, well sort of. Only 5 seconds off the top times now so maybe next time it comes up in dailies I’ll be a bit smoother, faster and ready to compete. I hope. 🫣

A small victory to break 2:06 but so far to go if I want to go racing. 😬

 

[Mercia]

Literally on the last chicane, he just slams into me and takes the lead, putting me in P3 alongside P2. I managed to get P2 crossing the line using slipstream from the scummy winner but still, it does not feel good

It would be interesting to see what people think of this as my first impression is you left way too much room here and the opponent wasn't overly aggressive.

Even without the contact it seems like he would have taken this chicane faster than you and came out in front.

 

[Slowdan]

Tried to improve my Bathurst qualifying time last night, which I did, but nowhere near enough.

So I skipped on to Trial Mountain and failed to improve again. But, after starting 10th and below all week, I finally got a nice lobby where my quali time put me sixth on the grid. Had a good race from there, made it up to fourth in the first two laps and chased third for the whole race. Got past him at one point, but only for half a lap. Made some mistakes on the final lap and came across the line with fifth 0.001 seconds behind.

Nice to finally get a half decent starting position!

 

[MrHatss]

I waited for him, and he thanked me after the race.

I'm still enjoying the course and the races, except when I drive like, uh, doo-doo.

I'm still using the R.S.01 because I handle the corners much better in it, but it's slower than the 911 in the straights, which is OK unless I mess up the turns leading into the straights. Then it's just a matter of time until someone passes me. I'm gonna have to try the 911 again, and some other cars, because I hate getting caught on straights because the other car is faster.

I think you're the only user in this week having respect for other drivers, nobody cares, but it's true that is possible to just do a mistake in that section, in my case I'd just need a "sorry" on the lobby chat after the race to be ok, it happens, it could happen, it's allright, we're not in the real world, when I do wrong I always write in the chat afterwards if it's impossible to wait in the race to gift back the position...in Mount Panorama people don't know, don't have the expertise or the patience, to overtake fairly and just crash to go ahead where the track is narrow

Try again the 911, it will be your car choice for the weekend

 

[Kamikatze]

I think you're the only user in this week having respect for other drivers

I have had other experiences. At least in the top 5, most of them drive fairly and apologise for mistakes or even give the position back. The quota of bad races has dropped to 10-15% (thanks @GrumpyOldMan, easy to keep track with the GranTracker tool); I ride in lobbies with 2 to 4 A+, the rest A riders (B to fill up). I wish you that you will also have better experiences! What helped me is to remain fair myself, even if my emotions sometimes boil up. Good life school I suppose

 

[MrHatss]

I have had other experiences. At least in the top 5, most of them drive fairly and apologise for mistakes or even give the position back. The quota of bad races has dropped to 10-15% (thanks @GrumpyOldMan, easy to keep track with the GranTracker tool); I ride in lobbies with 2 to 4 A+, the rest A riders (B to fill up). I wish you that you will also have better experiences! What helped me is to remain fair myself, even if my emotions sometimes boil up. Good life school I suppose

Thanks I always try to be fair and drive as clean as possible, the situation it's 50% lucky based and 50% ranking determined...your skills keeps you in a great ranking with fair drivers, as a B/C user I'm more in the foxhole than you, I remember D-ranked races as a destruction derby also in SR-S ranked lobby
Really hope to have more luck, I must say that is always about 1-2 user of 16 so it would be easy also for Polyphony to do something regarding this, is not endemic, but these 1-2 can destroy the race for those that are near.

Just for info, presumed next week races

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

Bathurst is beginning to click, well sort of. Only 5 seconds off the top times now

I don't know what your rating is, but for me in top-ish DR-B, that's a good time. You'll still probably start 9-11 depending on the lobby, but fun can be had, for sure.

I think you're the only user in this week having respect for other drivers, nobody cares

It's funny you should say that. I was reviewing the replay from a race I just had, trying to figure out why we got the longest yellow flag I've ever seen in GT7. P2 and P3 had a dust-up.

On T1 (lap 4), P2 braked earlier than P3 expected, and P3 tapped him. Not a lot, but as you know you're on the edge already on that turn, so in spite of a valiant effort, P2 lost control. P3 tried to go by him, and P2 hit him into the wall. So P2 waited patiently for P3 to right himself and continue the race.

Very nice of P2, but he didn't do anything wrong. P3 tapped him, and everything that happened after that was P3's fault. So not only did P2 show respect, he took the blame for something he had no control over. It was nice to see - glad I checked the replay.

Which makes me wonder how many of these nice incidents happen that we never see?

Try again the 911, it will be your car choice for the weekend

I have been trying it, multiple times, but it just doesn't work as well as the R.S.01 for me.

The quota of bad races has dropped to 10-15% (thanks @GrumpyOldMan, easy to keep track with the GranTracker tool)

I didn't realize I had a box for recording whether people are respectful or not! And thanks for the plug.

 

[MetalApe]

Am I bad for being more concerned with a getting a photo op, than making a pass on the car in the front? When I saw what livery I was following it had to be done.

 

[mellofello9]

It would be interesting to see what people think of this as my first impression is you left way too much room here and the opponent wasn't overly aggressive.

Even without the contact it seems like he would have taken this chicane faster than you and came out in front.

Super frustrating, yes. But, and from what I was looking at, I don't think it was malicious. It looks like the other driver was counting on you carving into the first left tighter than you did and cranked the wheel a bit too far. If you don the rose-colored-glasses, they may have felt bad and were trying to help you out by keeping you in the draft to hold P2. Could've easily dove to the other side of the track or, even worse, given the draft to the driver beside you. 👍

Speaking of P3...am I the only one not simply freakin' AMAZED that the other driver didn't shove Techno' out of the draft and into the wall??? I mean, that's noteworthy territory there. Play the lottery, the winds of luck have obviously blown your way. 😁

EDIT: And, after watching again, sans the contact that would've been a helluva pass. Subjective as my favorite passing maneuvers are ALWAYS around the outside, especially when it means you pick-up the inside on the exit of a chicane.

 

[TechnoIsLove]

It would be interesting to see what people think of this as my first impression is you left way too much room here and the opponent wasn't overly aggressive.

Even without the contact it seems like he would have taken this chicane faster than you and came out in front.

I kind of get your point but don't necessarily agree.

• The red line is where my front bumper ends
• Green is my path
• Yellow is the path he should be taking, round the outside

The impact was enough to unbalance my car and imagine this (for better perspective) - If I, still driving the Supra, dive bombed on the inside exactly as the screenshots show, I would be (obviously) 100% at fault and guilty of an unsportsmanlike overtake. Just because he is on the outside does not mean he can slam into me and call it fair.

If you look at the 2nd image, which is on impact, if he did not bounce off me and make the turn, the way his car is pointing meant he would have cut the corner.

Not making a fuss but when I make such an effort to keep things clean, never make such a move (or worse) than what happened to me and then to just have that taken away makes me angry lol.

On a separate note, I'm now in the 1:58:6 on main account. Was good for P6 start but P10 finish after getting hit and spun once more... Was down to P15 at one point so could be worse I guess 🤐🤬

 

[Jerryvangogh]

I Love Panorama, but like most have said, Its super destructive. I managed to break into the 2:07 range and i know where i can get more time, but starting off this week i was at a 2:09 and starting in 10th place regularly Manage to always bring it back to finish in the top 7 but at the expense of my DR. So many ppl don’t know the braking points, love to ram or like to hit a wall while I’m off their bumper. I went from a B/S to B/C it’s pretty irritating. Wont be doing anymore races there this week

 

[Barney Da Dog]

So close to my first win since I started using the wheel a couple of weeks ago..

Trial Mountain, started 3rd after improving my qualifying time by using the Jag.. I led after lap 4, all the way til the last lap where I made a stupid mistake entering the long tunnel - just a tap on the wall but enough to drop me to 2nd.

Had a few other 2nds and 3rds using a mix of the F-Type, Vantage and 458.

Oh yes, an amazing thing happened in one of the races - I got punted off by a French driver (nothing unusual there) but this one apologised! 😯

 

[benjoi84]

My first foray into Sport Mode this week, qualifying at Bathurst late last night and trying out a few lunchtime races today.

I've come to some striking conclusions about The Mountain. I adore the circuit, it really squeezes every last ounce of effort from the driver and is a thrill to drive correctly. But! It's fairly inevitable there will be incidents, and I'd say much less often intentional than people seem to think. The first lap is simply a crap-shoot, with the cars all bunched together it's a lottery whether you make it up towards The Cutting without any serious hindrance to your basic driving. The problem is, not only do slight errors have exaggerated consequences, but players who are actively trying to stay clean and prevent accidents end up suffering the most due to scarcity of contingency on the tight track. There's always a chain reaction, with many innocent parties getting caught up in chaos.

Also, it's the combination that makes me sweat the most 💦

Someone earlier in the thread stated that it's better suited to GT4 than GT3 and at this race length I find it hard to disagree. The most fun I've had here was still GT3, but a longer Race C format with various strategies available.

 

[xTWiZTED]

Bathurst has been very fun this week. Very chaotic at times but, to me, that adds to the experience of such a great track. Also enjoyed a bit of the other races but Race B always delivers something special (for the good or for the bad).

I'm also venturing into commenting over some of my races on YouTube, something which I've always wanted to do but never had the courage to start.

 

[mellofello9]

My first foray into Sport Mode this week, qualifying at Bathurst late last night and trying out a few lunchtime races today.

I've come to some striking conclusions about The Mountain. I adore the circuit, it really squeezes every last ounce of effort from the driver and is a thrill to drive correctly. But! It's fairly inevitable there will be incidents, and I'd say much less often intentional than people seem to think. The first lap is simply a crap-shoot, with the cars all bunched together it's a lottery whether you make it up towards The Cutting without any serious hindrance to your basic driving. The problem is, not only do slight errors have exaggerated consequences, but players who are actively trying to stay clean and prevent accidents end up suffering the most due to scarcity of contingency on the tight track. There's always a chain reaction, with many innocent parties getting caught up in chaos.

Also, it's the combination that makes me sweat the most 💦

Someone earlier in the thread stated that it's better suited to GT4 than GT3 and at this race length I find it hard to disagree. The most fun I've had here was still GT3, but a longer Race C format with various strategies available.

Welcome to the fray!!

Spot-on with the observations @ Bathurst. I think the Gr.4's would be great through the mountain there...problem is, the rest of the track might kinda suck due to the lack of speed. It'd probably be not much different than the experience at Trial Mtn this week. Feels like more car is in-order, especially with 10 laps on the table. Still fun, but could be fun-er with more HP. 😁

Are you a direct import from GTSport? Asking because I'm curious about your impressions between the two (that inquiry stands for pretty much anyone willing to respond, really). I've been struggling to hit the same QT's here that I was doing in GTSport. Like, really off the pace, and I'm trying to figure-out if it's me or player-base in nature. For instance, I was typically within 1.5 sec of the top-times where I'm comfortable. In GT7, I'm struggling to get within 4 secs. Before I beat myself up over it, I started to wonder if this isn't just a by-product of a much larger player-base amplifying my ineptitude.

Whatever the case, it's all motivation to get on my wheel/rig project.

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

Just got a P2 finish at Mount Panorama, but I deleted the screenshot by accident. The reason I wanted to show the screenshot was to show the car I used: The 911. But this will have to do:

Try again the 911, it will be your car choice for the weekend

I have been trying it, multiple times, but it just doesn't work as well as the R.S.01 for me.

OK, I'm rethinking this. The first thing I needed to do with the 911 was to run TCS 2. I had been running TCS 1 on the R.S.01, and with my lead-footed style, that doesn't work with the 911.

BUT... once I did that, and spent a little time with the 911, I can see the appeal. There's still a few places on the track that I have to figure out, but let me tell you where it excels right off the bat:

NOTE: These comments are after about 4 Q laps, and one race, so I may need to modify them in the future.

1) Braking. I can brake way later in the 911 than I can with the R.S.01.

2) The start of the esses - the 911 can handle a lot more speed down the start of the esses, and because of the great brakes, I can get it under control pretty easily to make the right/left.

3) Acceleration. This was the thing that made me want to try it anyway. I started P3, and passed P2 on T2 with no contact. And because of the great acceleration, I can make mistakes in corners and not get run over from behind.

At this point, I think the pluses outweigh the minuses, but here's some minuses (to me, anyway):

1) I think the F.S.01 allows me to take the corners at the back of the track faster, and I can hit the straight leading to the esses at a faster speed. But by the time the esses are done and I'm heading back down the straight, the 911 ends up being faster overall.

2) The 911 can be a little more squireley a times, so that takes some getting used to. But I think that's just a matter of time.

Anyway, those are my current thoughts, not that anyone really cares...

 

[bone_tone]

Also, it's the combination that makes me sweat the most 💦

Yeah, me too - only 16 degrees here today, but I was in shorts only mode again! Boy, it seems like hard work, but it's worth it when it goes well 😊

 

[benjoi84]

@mellofello9 I'm not actually new to GT7 (bought on release day), I just meant my first foray this week into Sport Mode!

Nonetheless I will respond by saying I had the opposite experience switching from GT Sport. At first I found the cars much more twitchy, but quickly I realised they were more reactive to subtle inputs.

Obviously, that was then and this is now, a few physics updates later and a complete change of hardware from my side means any comparisons to GT Sport are quite spurious.

 

[TechnoIsLove]

Just got a P2 finish at Mount Panorama, but I deleted the screenshot by accident. The reason I wanted to show the screenshot was to show the car I used: The 911. But this will have to do:

View attachment 1277555


OK, I'm rethinking this. The first thing I needed to do with the 911 was to run TCS 2. I had been running TCS 1 on the R.S.01, and with my lead-footed style, that doesn't work with the 911.

BUT... once I did that, and spent a little time with the 911, I can see the appeal. There's still a few places on the track that I have to figure out, but let me tell you where it excels right off the bat:

NOTE: These comments are after about 4 Q laps, and one race, so I may need to modify them in the future.

1) Braking. I can brake way later in the 911 than I can with the R.S.01.

2) The start of the esses - the 911 can handle a lot more speed down the start of the esses, and because of the great brakes, I can get it under control pretty easily to make the right/left.

3) Acceleration. This was the thing that made me want to try it anyway. I started P3, and passed P2 on T2 with no contact. And because of the great acceleration, I can make mistakes in corners and not get run over from behind.

At this point, I think the pluses outweigh the minuses, but here's some minuses (to me, anyway):

1) I think the F.S.01 allows me to take the corners at the back of the track faster, and I can hit the straight leading to the esses at a faster speed. But by the time the esses are done and I'm heading back down the straight, the 911 ends up being faster overall.

2) The 911 can be a little more squireley a times, so that takes some getting used to. But I think that's just a matter of time.

Anyway, those are my current thoughts, not that anyone really cares...

I care 🤗🥰

 

[Mercia]

Finally nabbed a kart race!

That was very intense I'm not sure I can do it again!

 

[MrHatss]

It's funny you should say that. I was reviewing the replay from a race I just had, trying to figure out why we got the longest yellow flag I've ever seen in GT7. P2 and P3 had a dust-up.

On T1 (lap 4), P2 braked earlier than P3 expected, and P3 tapped him. Not a lot, but as you know you're on the edge already on that turn, so in spite of a valiant effort, P2 lost control. P3 tried to go by him, and P2 hit him into the wall. So P2 waited patiently for P3 to right himself and continue the race.

Very nice of P2, but he didn't do anything wrong. P3 tapped him, and everything that happened after that was P3's fault. So not only did P2 show respect, he took the blame for something he had no control over. It was nice to see - glad I checked the replay.

Which makes me wonder how many of these nice incidents happen that we never see?

Really hope there are respectful users in the wild, in months of playing online just once a player told me "sorry" at the end of the race, then added me and send me another message to tell his version of the fact, we had a chat and I told him that there are things that can happen, I often do mistakes in sport mode, we're not pro.
Anyway, it's impossible that all the saints are writing in this forum and all the sinners are lurking from the edge...there must be other passionate and respectful drivers around

Just got a P2 finish at Mount Panorama, but I deleted the screenshot by accident. The reason I wanted to show the screenshot was to show the car I used: The 911. But this will have to do:

View attachment 1277555


OK, I'm rethinking this. The first thing I needed to do with the 911 was to run TCS 2. I had been running TCS 1 on the R.S.01, and with my lead-footed style, that doesn't work with the 911.

BUT... once I did that, and spent a little time with the 911, I can see the appeal. There's still a few places on the track that I have to figure out, but let me tell you where it excels right off the bat:

NOTE: These comments are after about 4 Q laps, and one race, so I may need to modify them in the future.

1) Braking. I can brake way later in the 911 than I can with the R.S.01.

2) The start of the esses - the 911 can handle a lot more speed down the start of the esses, and because of the great brakes, I can get it under control pretty easily to make the right/left.

3) Acceleration. This was the thing that made me want to try it anyway. I started P3, and passed P2 on T2 with no contact. And because of the great acceleration, I can make mistakes in corners and not get run over from behind.

At this point, I think the pluses outweigh the minuses, but here's some minuses (to me, anyway):

1) I think the F.S.01 allows me to take the corners at the back of the track faster, and I can hit the straight leading to the esses at a faster speed. But by the time the esses are done and I'm heading back down the straight, the 911 ends up being faster overall.

2) The 911 can be a little more squireley a times, so that takes some getting used to. But I think that's just a matter of time.

Anyway, those are my current thoughts, not that anyone really cares...

Ohhhhhhhhhh told you! I admit that I don't personally love the 911RSR but sometimes I just must use her cause the pro outweighs the cons...she can be a safe port in a strange track as Mount Panorama, she handles the esses soooo well, you can just open the throttle without be fearful of spin against the wall.
I add that I often use TCS2 with the 911 also in dry weather, it doens't make you lose so much time

 

[kleefton]

Really hope there are respectful users in the wild, in months of playing online just once a player told me "sorry" at the end of the race, then added me and send me another message to tell his version of the fact, we had a chat and I told him that there are things that can happen, I often do mistakes in sport mode, we're not pro.
Anyway, it's impossible that all the saints are writing in this forum and all the sinners are lurking from the edge...there must be other passionate and respectful drivers around


Ohhhhhhhhhh told you! I admit that I don't personally love the 911RSR but sometimes I just must use her cause the pro outweighs the cons...she can be a safe port in a strange track as Mount Panorama, she handles the esses soooo well, you can just open the throttle without be fearful of spin against the wall.
I add that I often use TCS2 with the 911 also in dry weather, it doens't make you lose so much time

Its a weird car the 911. It understeers more than most but somehow its one of the quickest cars in most corners.

My favorite gt3 car in the game handling wise is the Aston but it is slow.

 

[Mercia]

Its a weird car the 911. It understeers more than most but somehow its one of the quickest cars in most corners.

Did qualy in the 911 but I've found the RCZ to be the best in race due to it's stability. You have to hold your own against some aggro at the start as it's not quick off the blocks but once the race settles it's just so smooth over the mountain you can keep a good pace and take advantage of those struggling to hold onto their choices.

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

you can just open the throttle without be fearful of spin against the wall.

I still managed to spin it against the wall. I am super-talented, that way.

Its a weird car the 911. It understeers more than most but somehow its one of the quickest cars in most corners.

I know, right? Sometimes it doesn't make any sense.

My favorite gt3 car in the game handling wise is the Aston but it is slow.

You're talking about the V12, right? I LOVE that car. In fact, I was just in a race with someone who drove it, and I don't remember the exact outcome, but I saw him on the track a lot, so he's certainly competitive in it. Makes me want to try it again, although the last time I tried, I was 2 seconds off my pace...

Did qualy in the 911 but I've found the RCZ to be the best in race due to it's stability. You have to hold your own against some aggro at the start as it's not quick off the blocks but once the race settles it's just so smooth over the mountain you can keep a good pace and take advantage of those struggling to hold onto their choices.

Just curious if you've tried the R.S.01? It's NOT slow off the blocks, and the rest sounds similar. I'd be curious to hear read your take.

 

[TechnoIsLove]

Was pleasantly (and very unexpectedly) surprised to start in P3 on main account this evening at Trial Mountain. That being said, I was shoved off (accidentally) towards the end of lap 1 and was down in P6 HOWEVER... Climbed my way back up to P3 and quite happy to manage it Especially since I overtook 3 cars at once! In the same corner that I was robbed of a win in the last race. And I managed it with no contact at all